To all those on the left who question the faith of evangelicals for voting Trump

sakinago

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What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.
 

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Do you often find yourself trying to blame others for voting for someone that routinely takes the Lord's name in vain? That calls people names routinely?

Because you do not like the other main candidate you have to vote for the guy who brags about just walking up and sexually assaulting women?
 

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What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.
Not questioning their faith. Just their sanity, their compassion, their morality, and ultimately, their hypocrisy. They hijacked the Republican Party platform in the early 80's. And those Republicans are too wimpy to tell them to get lost. The culture wars were invented by the right wing in this country. I've never seen a group of people so willing to use the courts and legislation at the state and federal level to shove their "values" and their "beliefs" down the throats of every American.

And to be honest, any church that raffles off an AR-15....doesn't have a leg to stand on to bitch and complain. They deserved this.
 

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What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.
What do we expect? We expect gross hypocrisy from the folks to profess that supporting Trump brings them closer to Jesus' message.
 

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What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.
What do we expect? We expect gross hypocrisy from the folks to profess that supporting Trump brings them closer to Jesus' message.
Standing up to Satan and rejecting his lies was Jesus’ message.

President Trump is an excellent example of standing up against the lies of the left.
 

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Do you often find yourself trying to blame others for voting for someone that routinely takes the Lord's name in vain? That calls people names routinely?

Because you do not like the other main candidate you have to vote for the guy who brags about just walking up and sexually assaulting women?
He is like the other Rwingers who think they are the only one's that worship religion, own guns or allowed to own them, are ethical and moral, have values, etc., etc., etc., and actually follow them. It's just so wrong and disingenuous.
 

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What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.
What do we expect? We expect gross hypocrisy from the folks to profess that supporting Trump brings them closer to Jesus' message.
Standing up to Satan and rejecting his lies was Jesus’ message.

President Trump is an excellent example of standing up against the lies of the left.
That was not Jesus' message. Go back and read the scriptures. You should be ashamed about comparing DJT to anything biblical concerning Jesus.
 

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What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.
Ugh nothing annoys me more than the childish hypocrisy of Evangelicals when it comes to Trump. It so pathetic.

No one cares if you don’t want to vote for Biden. Vote third party or don’t vote. You’re just fucking stupid if you vote for Trump.
 

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There's more to being a Christian than griping about a couple of social issues all the time and hitting people over the head with a bible. When Christianity becomes a political movement there's going to be some blowback. No one has any problem at all when you love your neighbor as thyself. It's when you want to make sins into earthly crimes that religious people are way out of line. No law should ever be made only because you think God does not like it. That's theocracy.
 
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Do you often find yourself trying to blame others for voting for someone that routinely takes the Lord's name in vain? That calls people names routinely?

Because you do not like the other main candidate you have to vote for the guy who brags about just walking up and sexually assaulting women?
Vs the party that actually calls them names...and wants to kill babies AFTER they’re born. The party that actually vilifies them, and labels their beliefs as “hate speech”. How is them voting for trump a fucking mystery to you? It’s honestly laughable. Your party just tried to block people going to church, vilified them and their kids trying to walk in, and then punched the pastor in the face multiple times.

That being said. To answer your question, even though the OP should’ve sufficed, there was only one dude in the Bible who was blameless. Obviously that was Jesus. The other hero’s in the Bible, even the best of the best, did waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy more fucked up shit than trump has ever done. We’re talking having friends killed so they could hide the affairs they had with their wives. Screwing their brothers out of inheritance. Throwing brothers in a pit and leaving them to die. Traveling from city to city to murder Christians. Plenty of hero’s weren’t even part of Israel or the early church. The Bible is not a kumbayah book. It’s a book that clearly says you are garbage, the human condition is garbage, there WILL be suffering from tragic occurrences, there WILL be suffering from malevolent people, you HAVE to be better because you answer to a higher power that laid out these rules that give all of that suffering meaning.
 

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Do you often find yourself trying to blame others for voting for someone that routinely takes the Lord's name in vain? That calls people names routinely?

Because you do not like the other main candidate you have to vote for the guy who brags about just walking up and sexually assaulting women?
Vs the party that actually calls them names...and wants to kill babies AFTER they’re born. The party that actually vilifies them, and labels their beliefs as “hate speech”. How is them voting for trump a fucking mystery to you? It’s honestly laughable. Your party just tried to block people going to church, vilified them and their kids trying to walk in, and then punched the pastor in the face multiple times.

That being said. To answer your question, even though the OP should’ve sufficed, there was only one dude in the Bible who was blameless. Obviously that was Jesus. The other hero’s in the Bible, even the best of the best, did waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy more fucked up shit than trump has ever done. We’re talking having friends killed so they could hide the affairs they had with their wives. Screwing their brothers out of inheritance. Throwing brothers in a pit and leaving them to die. Traveling from city to city to murder Christians. Plenty of hero’s weren’t even part of Israel or the early church. The Bible is not a kumbayah book. It’s a book that clearly says you are garbage, the human condition is garbage, there WILL be suffering from tragic occurrences, there WILL be suffering from malevolent people, you HAVE to be better because you answer to a higher power that laid out these rules that give all of that suffering meaning.
That still doesn't address my point. Just because you do not like one guy does not mean you have to vote for some other guy. Especially one that laughs about sexually assaulting women.
 
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There's more to being a Christian than griping about a couple of social issues all the time and hitting people over the head with a bible. When Christianity becomes a political movement there's going to be some blowback. No one has any problem at all when you love your neighbor as thyself. It's when you want to make sins into earthly crimes that religious people are way out of line. No law should ever be made only because you think God does not like it. That's theocracy.
What the fuck are you talking about? The biggest bible thumping fanatical religion today is the one telling people they need to read white fragility, confess to their privilege, and literally prostrate themselves or be canceled. That religion burned down a fuck ton of cities in their jihad. That’s a theocracy right there. Everyone is religious whether they know it or not.

The US, founded on the religious natural philosophy, excised theocracy in its conception.

Y’all keep skipping over the whole killing babies after they’re born part. “But that was just one guy”. Yeah one guy who happens to be the governor of Virginia, almost became VP, and his legislature agreed with him.
 

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Here is an exerpt from one of the nut bag preacher's sermons.

I’m a racist. I think the races should be kept separate as much as possible. I think you ought to marry your own if you can. Black History Month means communism and Marxism month. Women’s History Month means man-hating and God-hating month. Sodomite History Month is a straight-hating month. American Native Savages Month — they’re gonna make one, too.

There is a ham on a plate outside the church’s door that parishioners must touch upon entry to weed out Jews and Muslims. It has a sign that reads “No one is allowed to enter here unless they first touch the ham, pork, swine.”

Following the deadly white nationalist rally in Charlottesville in 2017, Koletas blamed Heather Heyer for her own death after neo-Nazi James Alex Fields rammed into a crowd, killing her. “What in the world was she doing on the street? She didn’t have a permit to be there. He was in, as far as I know, a lawful car.”

In the same sermon, he said that the problem with America was black churches. “They don’t preach about personal responsibility. They don’t tell them how to get a job. They don’t tell them to live right with God. And so what you see is a bunch of thugs out there that are blaming everybody else.”

The implicit threat of a man like this handing out guns at a time like this should be abundantly clear.

This is rightwing propaganda 101: “Black Lives Matter assaults Christians” is a more effective headline than “Protesters confront white supremacist distributing weapons.”
 

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There's more to being a Christian than griping about a couple of social issues all the time and hitting people over the head with a bible. When Christianity becomes a political movement there's going to be some blowback. No one has any problem at all when you love your neighbor as thyself. It's when you want to make sins into earthly crimes that religious people are way out of line. No law should ever be made only because you think God does not like it. That's theocracy.
What the fuck are you talking about? The biggest bible thumping fanatical religion today is the one telling people they need to read white fragility, confess to their privilege, and literally prostrate themselves or be canceled. That religion burned down a fuck ton of cities in their jihad. That’s a theocracy right there. Everyone is religious whether they know it or not.

The US, founded on the religious natural philosophy, excised theocracy in its conception.

Y’all keep skipping over the whole killing babies after they’re born part. “But that was just one guy”. Yeah one guy who happens to be the governor of Virginia, almost became VP, and his legislature agreed with him.
What you are ranting on is and has always been illegal.
 

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There's more to being a Christian than griping about a couple of social issues all the time and hitting people over the head with a bible. When Christianity becomes a political movement there's going to be some blowback. No one has any problem at all when you love your neighbor as thyself. It's when you want to make sins into earthly crimes that religious people are way out of line. No law should ever be made only because you think God does not like it. That's theocracy.
What the fuck are you talking about? The biggest bible thumping fanatical religion today is the one telling people they need to read white fragility, confess to their privilege, and literally prostrate themselves or be canceled. That religion burned down a fuck ton of cities in their jihad. That’s a theocracy right there. Everyone is religious whether they know it or not.

The US, founded on the religious natural philosophy, excised theocracy in its conception.

Y’all keep skipping over the whole killing babies after they’re born part. “But that was just one guy”. Yeah one guy who happens to be the governor of Virginia, almost became VP, and his legislature agreed with him.
No one cares except a bunch of hypocrites who do not care about anything except putting women in their place. If I had ever seen a pro-life hypocrite show that they have thought about the aftermath of an actual abortion ban. I would not be quite so hostile to your nonsense.
 

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“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.”

-Barry Goldwater
 

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They had plenty of options in the 2016 Republican primary election.

They chose Trump.
 

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