Time to kill the filibuster

[meaner gene]

Trump had the filibuster to deal with. That's just how DC works.
Neither side is a dictatorship. If a policy can't get 60 votes, its a bad policy.

Really, what about the filibuster for supreme court justices.

GONE.......

 

[Nostra]

Nobody wanted to kill the filibuster. I didn't want to kill the filibuster. All that was true before the republicans refused to agree to a bipartisan 1/6 commission to investigate the attack on the capitol. Before the vote, repubs made demands for their cooperation, and democrats agreed to every one of them. Repubs still refused to cooperate. If they refuse to cooperate on something so momentous as that, it's obvious they won't cooperate on anything else. The country can't afford to capitulate to the party of NO for a full four years. The insurrectionists built a gallows on the lawn and were chanting “KILL MIKE PENCE!!” There are pictures of republicans stacking furniture to block the door in an effort to keep the insurrectionists out. Those were the same republicans who voted against the bipartisan investigation. Only an idiot wouldn't see that we need to drop the politics and discover what really happened, and who was instrumental in planning it. They obviously care more about protecting trump, and their members who were instrumental in planning the attempted coup than they care about taking care of the country's business. I would prefer to keep the filibuster, but the repubs are forcing the issue so that our only choice is to end it. Once that is done, it won't seem like such a big deal to reconsider statehood for DC and Puerto Rico or a few more seats on the Supreme court. If the republicans keep insisting on being obstinate, there is not much else we can do but to play hardball just like they are doing.

'Five-alarm fire': Liberals use Jan. 6 panel blockade as rallying cry to abolish filibuster

More than 100 advocacy groups sent a letter to Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer calling for elimination of the 60-vote threshold.

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No. Let's wait until Republicans are in control.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The filibuster is a means of obstruction. It has become weaponized by the minority party to where 41 members have more power than 59. It needs to go. Compromise is synonymous with capitulation. Allow elections to have consequences.

Totally disagree with eliminating the filibuster. Without the filibuster we would be playing ping-pong every 4-years. That would be very inefficient. Build the wall, tear it down, build the wall, tear it down, etc. Build up the military, stop building up the military, etc. Defund the police, hire more police, defund the police, hire more police.

The filibuster has worked well. It stopped extreme change from happening. The US is roughly 50/50 republican/democrat. Neither side should push for change that can't get at least 60 senate votes.

Great post

There's nothing redeemable about America's corrupt political system and so the best for America is turning to fascism as a remedy.

Greedy US style capitalism has a hold that can't be broken no matter if Biden tries. Even Biden is corrupted and bought off by big money.

A slaughter on the streets between political sides may be the price that will have to be paid.

Even the elimination of Trump now won't lessen the sickness he's brought to America.

It worked for 200 plus years

 

[meaner gene]

Can you clutch those pearls just a little bit tighter? No one is fooled by democrats pretense that they want to know what happened. We have the FBI that is perfectly capable of investigating the January 6th protest

No one trusts a bunch of unelected bureaucrats coming out with a report. Just look at how the Mueller report was treated.

There needs to be an independent bipartisan commission to investigate the big events of national importance.
Who would have accepted a 9-11 report from the FBI that dropped the ball.

 

[meaner gene]

It worked for 200 plus years

So did slavery.

 

[Richard-H]

The simple fact is that Joe Manchin is a conservative and sides with Republicans often. He'd like to bring back the days when the Senate compromised...but that ain't gonna happen.

He recognizes that the filibuster makes it possible for politicians to blatantly lie to their base - because they know that the nonsense they promise will always get blocked.

The filibuster guarantees that almost nothing gets done in Washington. Then the politicians can whine to their constituents about the 'Do Nothing' congress..but they'll keep 'fighting the good fight'.

It's a SCAM!!!

 

[Wyatt earp]

It worked for 200 plus years

So did slavery.

Wow you can afford a slave?

 

[Wyatt earp]

The simple fact is that Joe Manchin is a conservative and sides with Republicans often. He'd like to bring back the days when the Senate compromised...but that ain't gonna happen.

He recognizes that the filibuster makes it possible for politicians to blatantly lie to their base - because they know that the nonsense they promise will always get blocked.

The filibuster guarantees that almost nothing gets done in Washington. Then the politicians can whine to their constituents about the 'Do Nothing' congress..but they'll keep 'fighting the good fight'.

It's a SCAM!!!

It keeps it normal, checks and balances

 

[justinacolmena]

bipartisan investigation

Unfortunately that is still on its face a purely political investigation rather than any sort of proper investigation of a civil or criminal matter before a court of law.

 

[whitehall]

Democrats love the filibuster. They even changed the rules so you don't really have to filibuster, just call "filibuster" like some kids game. Now that they are in charge again they want to kill it. No surprised here.

 

[meaner gene]

The filibuster guarantees that almost nothing gets done in Washington. Then the politicians can whine to their constituents about the 'Do Nothing' congress..but they'll keep 'fighting the good fight'.

It's a SCAM!!!

Republicans run on the principle that government doesn't work, and they demonstrate it by blocking the work of government. IRonald Reagan famously said the last thing you want to hear from someone knocking on your door is "I'm from the government and i'm here to help."

 

[meaner gene]

bipartisan investigation

Unfortunately that is still on its face a purely political investigation rather than any sort of proper investigation of a civil or criminal matter before a court of law.

Courts can't investigate. They can not legally take an advisory case.

 

[Richard-H]

Nobody wanted to kill the filibuster. I didn't want to kill the filibuster. All that was true before the republicans refused to agree to a bipartisan 1/6 commission to investigate the attack on the capitol. Before the vote, repubs made demands for their cooperation, and democrats agreed to every one of them. Repubs still refused to cooperate. If they refuse to cooperate on something so momentous as that, it's obvious they won't cooperate on anything else. The country can't afford to capitulate to the party of NO for a full four years. The insurrectionists built a gallows on the lawn and were chanting “KILL MIKE PENCE!!” There are pictures of republicans stacking furniture to block the door in an effort to keep the insurrectionists out. Those were the same republicans who voted against the bipartisan investigation. Only an idiot wouldn't see that we need to drop the politics and discover what really happened, and who was instrumental in planning it. They obviously care more about protecting trump, and their members who were instrumental in planning the attempted coup than they care about taking care of the country's business. I would prefer to keep the filibuster, but the repubs are forcing the issue so that our only choice is to end it. Once that is done, it won't seem like such a big deal to reconsider statehood for DC and Puerto Rico or a few more seats on the Supreme court. If the republicans keep insisting on being obstinate, there is not much else we can do but to play hardball just like they are doing.

'Five-alarm fire': Liberals use Jan. 6 panel blockade as rallying cry to abolish filibuster

More than 100 advocacy groups sent a letter to Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer calling for elimination of the 60-vote threshold.

www.aol.com

Can you clutch those pearls just a little bit tighter? No one is fooled by democrats pretense that they want to know what happened. We have the FBI that is perfectly capable of investigating the January 6th protest. What democrats actually want is to get their so called "commission" put together so they can get nightly newscast help in trying to harangue republicans during the 2022 elections. They want it to use as a battering ram and nothing more.

The vast majority of Republican congress people are traitors. They deserve to be publically embarrassed. The public deserves to see them for what they really are.

 

[Richard-H]

The filibuster guarantees that almost nothing gets done in Washington. Then the politicians can whine to their constituents about the 'Do Nothing' congress..but they'll keep 'fighting the good fight'.

It's a SCAM!!!

Republicans run on the principle that government doesn't work, and they demonstrate it by blocking the work of government. IRonald Reagan famously said the last thing you want to hear from someone knocking on your door is "I'm from the government and i'm here to help."

Reagan was an idiot. There are millions of Americans that are more than happy when FEMA shows up to help.

 

[Richard-H]

Get rid of the filibuster!!!

Then politicians will reap what they sow!

Make 'em own it!!!

 

[Wyatt earp]

The filibuster guarantees that almost nothing gets done in Washington. Then the politicians can whine to their constituents about the 'Do Nothing' congress..but they'll keep 'fighting the good fight'.

It's a SCAM!!!

Republicans run on the principle that government doesn't work, and they demonstrate it by blocking the work of government. IRonald Reagan famously said the last thing you want to hear from someone knocking on your door is "I'm from the government and i'm here to help."

Reagan was an idiot. There are millions of Americans that are more than happy when FEMA shows up to help.

He saved America

 

[meaner gene]

Reagan was an idiot. There are millions of Americans that are more than happy when FEMA shows up to help.

That's the dichotomy of the republicans. Like Nancy Pelosi coined, "vote NO and take the dough."

 

[Wyatt earp]

Get rid of the filibuster!!!

Then politicians will reap what they sow!

Make 'em own it!!!

Quit being silly we are not a democracy

 

[meaner gene]

Get rid of the filibuster!!!

Then politicians will reap what they sow!

Make 'em own it!!!

I say they can keepl the filibuster, but return it to the old rules you saw when "Mr. Smith went to Washington."
If they want to filibuster, make them speak for days on end.

 

[justinacolmena]

Courts can't investigate. They can not legally take an advisory case.

If it's not a legitimate matter before a court of law, then it should not be investigated on the watch of a law enforcement agency or law-making body.