Time to kill the filibuster

BULLDOG

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Nobody wanted to kill the filibuster. I didn't want to kill the filibuster. All that was true before the republicans refused to agree to a bipartisan 1/6 commission to investigate the attack on the capitol. Before the vote, repubs made demands for their cooperation, and democrats agreed to every one of them. Repubs still refused to cooperate. If they refuse to cooperate on something so momentous as that, it's obvious they won't cooperate on anything else. The country can't afford to capitulate to the party of NO for a full four years. The insurrectionists built a gallows on the lawn and were chanting “KILL MIKE PENCE!!” There are pictures of republicans stacking furniture to block the door in an effort to keep the insurrectionists out. Those were the same republicans who voted against the bipartisan investigation. Only an idiot wouldn't see that we need to drop the politics and discover what really happened, and who was instrumental in planning it. They obviously care more about protecting trump, and their members who were instrumental in planning the attempted coup than they care about taking care of the country's business. I would prefer to keep the filibuster, but the repubs are forcing the issue so that our only choice is to end it. Once that is done, it won't seem like such a big deal to reconsider statehood for DC and Puerto Rico or a few more seats on the Supreme court. If the republicans keep insisting on being obstinate, there is not much else we can do but to play hardball just like they are doing.

 
Nobody wanted to kill the filibuster. I didn't want to kill the filibuster. All that was true before the republicans refused to agree to a bipartisan 1/6 commission to investigate the attack on the capitol. Before the vote, repubs made demands for their cooperation, and democrats agreed to every one of them. Repubs still refused to cooperate. If they refuse to cooperate on something so momentous as that, it's obvious they won't cooperate on anything else. The country can't afford to capitulate to the party of NO for a full four years. The insurrectionists built a gallows on the lawn and were chanting “KILL MIKE PENCE!!” There are pictures of republicans stacking furniture to block the door in an effort to keep the insurrectionists out. Those were the same republicans who voted against the bipartisan investigation. Only an idiot wouldn't see that we need to drop the politics and discover what really happened, and who was instrumental in planning it. They obviously care more about protecting trump, and their members who were instrumental in planning the attempted coup than they care about taking care of the country's business. I would prefer to keep the filibuster, but the repubs are forcing the issue so that our only choice is to end it. Once that is done, it won't seem like such a big deal to reconsider statehood for DC and Puerto Rico or a few more seats on the Supreme court. If the republicans keep insisting on being obstinate, there is not much else we can do but to play hardball just like they are doing.

It should have been done months ago.

Republicans are not honest brokers, all of them are #BadFaith actors.
 
Its not going to happen if I am hearing the only two level headed democrats in the senate correctly...besides you dems will rue the day that you did this...you won't be in power much longer....and then we will have the fillibusterless senate....remember we warned Reid and you all laughed and now the GOP has the Supreme court....be careful what you wish for....
 
Its not going to happen if I am hearing the only two level headed democrats in the senate correctly...besides you dems will rue the day that you did this...you won't be in power much longer....and then we will have the fillibusterless senate....remember we warned Reid and you all laughed and now the GOP has the Supreme court....be careful what you wish for....
Nothing says a few more seats on the court couldn't happen. It would be much more likely to happen in the current environment where repubs are the party of NO than it would be if there was even a small amount of cooperation. I would suggest you might be the one who should be careful of what you wish for.
 
Its not going to happen if I am hearing the only two level headed democrats in the senate correctly...besides you dems will rue the day that you did this...you won't be in power much longer....and then we will have the fillibusterless senate....remember we warned Reid and you all laughed and now the GOP has the Supreme court....be careful what you wish for....
Nothing says a few more seats on the court couldn't happen. It would be much more likely to happen in the current environment where repubs are the party of NO than it would be if there was even a small amount of cooperation. I would suggest you might be the one who should be careful of what you wish for.
That will never happen...the backlash across the nation would doom the dems for generations and the GOP would just switch it all back anyway....so please go for it....
 
Nobody wanted to kill the filibuster. I didn't want to kill the filibuster. All that was true before the republicans refused to agree to a bipartisan 1/6 commission to investigate the attack on the capitol. Before the vote, repubs made demands for their cooperation, and democrats agreed to every one of them. Repubs still refused to cooperate. If they refuse to cooperate on something so momentous as that, it's obvious they won't cooperate on anything else. The country can't afford to capitulate to the party of NO for a full four years. The insurrectionists built a gallows on the lawn and were chanting “KILL MIKE PENCE!!” There are pictures of republicans stacking furniture to block the door in an effort to keep the insurrectionists out. Those were the same republicans who voted against the bipartisan investigation. Only an idiot wouldn't see that we need to drop the politics and discover what really happened, and who was instrumental in planning it. They obviously care more about protecting trump, and their members who were instrumental in planning the attempted coup than they care about taking care of the country's business. I would prefer to keep the filibuster, but the repubs are forcing the issue so that our only choice is to end it. Once that is done, it won't seem like such a big deal to reconsider statehood for DC and Puerto Rico or a few more seats on the Supreme court. If the republicans keep insisting on being obstinate, there is not much else we can do but to play hardball just like they are doing.


If the D's are having a hard time getting things done, why don't the REACH ACROSS THE AISLE and actually work in a bipartisan way with the R's? There are plenty of issues that the D's could change their stand on and agree with the GOP concerning, if they truly wanted to be Big Tent.
 
Republicans represent 50% of voters in the Senate so suck a filibuster Dem Nazi's. You will just have to cut a balanced bipartisan deal with the other half of the country. Tissue?
 
The filibuster is a means of obstruction. It has become weaponized by the minority party to where 41 members have more power than 59. It needs to go. Compromise is synonymous with capitulation. Allow elections to have consequences.
 
Nobody wanted to kill the filibuster. I didn't want to kill the filibuster. All that was true before the republicans refused to agree to a bipartisan 1/6 commission to investigate the attack on the capitol. Before the vote, repubs made demands for their cooperation, and democrats agreed to every one of them. Repubs still refused to cooperate. If they refuse to cooperate on something so momentous as that, it's obvious they won't cooperate on anything else. The country can't afford to capitulate to the party of NO for a full four years. The insurrectionists built a gallows on the lawn and were chanting “KILL MIKE PENCE!!” There are pictures of republicans stacking furniture to block the door in an effort to keep the insurrectionists out. Those were the same republicans who voted against the bipartisan investigation. Only an idiot wouldn't see that we need to drop the politics and discover what really happened, and who was instrumental in planning it. They obviously care more about protecting trump, and their members who were instrumental in planning the attempted coup than they care about taking care of the country's business. I would prefer to keep the filibuster, but the repubs are forcing the issue so that our only choice is to end it. Once that is done, it won't seem like such a big deal to reconsider statehood for DC and Puerto Rico or a few more seats on the Supreme court. If the republicans keep insisting on being obstinate, there is not much else we can do but to play hardball just like they are doing.

So when the left is in charge you want to flame the rules?

Sounds like a dictatorship
 
The filibuster is a means of obstruction. It has become weaponized by the minority party to where 41 members have more power than 59. It needs to go. Compromise is synonymous with capitulation. Allow elections to have consequences.
The beloved Obama got less popular votes then the hated trump..

Sounds like fraud to me
 
The filibuster is a means of obstruction. It has become weaponized by the minority party to where 41 members have more power than 59. It needs to go. Compromise is synonymous with capitulation. Allow elections to have consequences.
Totally disagree with eliminating the filibuster. Without the filibuster we would be playing ping-pong every 4-years. That would be very inefficient. Build the wall, tear it down, build the wall, tear it down, etc. Build up the military, stop building up the military, etc. Defund the police, hire more police, defund the police, hire more police.

The filibuster has worked well. It stopped extreme change from happening. The US is roughly 50/50 republican/democrat. Neither side should push for change that can't get at least 60 senate votes.
 
The filibuster is a means of obstruction. It has become weaponized by the minority party to where 41 members have more power than 59. It needs to go. Compromise is synonymous with capitulation. Allow elections to have consequences.
Totally disagree with eliminating the filibuster. Without the filibuster we would be playing ping-pong every 4-years. That would be very inefficient. Build the wall, tear it down, build the wall, tear it down, etc. Build up the military, stop building up the military, etc. Defund the police, hire more police, defund the police, hire more police.

The filibuster has worked well. It stopped extreme change from happening. The US is roughly 50/50 republican/democrat. Neither side should push for change that can't get at least 60 senate votes.
Great post
 
Nobody wanted to kill the filibuster. I didn't want to kill the filibuster. All that was true before the republicans refused to agree to a bipartisan 1/6 commission to investigate the attack on the capitol. Before the vote, repubs made demands for their cooperation, and democrats agreed to every one of them. Repubs still refused to cooperate. If they refuse to cooperate on something so momentous as that, it's obvious they won't cooperate on anything else. The country can't afford to capitulate to the party of NO for a full four years. The insurrectionists built a gallows on the lawn and were chanting “KILL MIKE PENCE!!” There are pictures of republicans stacking furniture to block the door in an effort to keep the insurrectionists out. Those were the same republicans who voted against the bipartisan investigation. Only an idiot wouldn't see that we need to drop the politics and discover what really happened, and who was instrumental in planning it. They obviously care more about protecting trump, and their members who were instrumental in planning the attempted coup than they care about taking care of the country's business. I would prefer to keep the filibuster, but the repubs are forcing the issue so that our only choice is to end it. Once that is done, it won't seem like such a big deal to reconsider statehood for DC and Puerto Rico or a few more seats on the Supreme court. If the republicans keep insisting on being obstinate, there is not much else we can do but to play hardball just like they are doing.


Can you clutch those pearls just a little bit tighter? No one is fooled by democrats pretense that they want to know what happened. We have the FBI that is perfectly capable of investigating the January 6th protest. What democrats actually want is to get their so called "commission" put together so they can get nightly newscast help in trying to harangue republicans during the 2022 elections. They want it to use as a battering ram and nothing more.
 
Nobody wanted to kill the filibuster. I didn't want to kill the filibuster. All that was true before the republicans refused to agree to a bipartisan 1/6 commission to investigate the attack on the capitol.
It's time to return the filibuster to the one we knew from "Mr. Smith goes to Washington". Or the time when Strom Thurmond set a record.
Today a filibuster doesn't even require anybody stand in the well of the senate and talk. So it's actually easier for a senator to filibuster, than to check his e-mail.

The cloture rule had been changed from requiring 2/3rds to override a filibuster, to the current 60 vote requirement. But there's an important difference. If the bulk of republicans don't show up, as few as 35 votes would stop the filibuster, as being 2/3rds of those present. But the current rule requires 60 votes, even if only 51 senators are in attendance.

If republicans want to obstruct, return the filibuster rules to how they used to be. Mend it, don't end it.
 
The filibuster is a means of obstruction. It has become weaponized by the minority party to where 41 members have more power than 59. It needs to go. Compromise is synonymous with capitulation. Allow elections to have consequences.
Totally disagree with eliminating the filibuster. Without the filibuster we would be playing ping-pong every 4-years. That would be very inefficient. Build the wall, tear it down, build the wall, tear it down, etc. Build up the military, stop building up the military, etc. Defund the police, hire more police, defund the police, hire more police.

The filibuster has worked well. It stopped extreme change from happening. The US is roughly 50/50 republican/democrat. Neither side should push for change that can't get at least 60 senate votes.
Great post
There's nothing redeemable about America's corrupt political system and so the best for America is turning to fascism as a remedy.

Greedy US style capitalism has a hold that can't be broken no matter if Biden tries. Even Biden is corrupted and bought off by big money.

A slaughter on the streets between political sides may be the price that will have to be paid.

Even the elimination of Trump now won't lessen the sickness he's brought to America.
 

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