Time To Admit That 'Liberal'...

The Leftists called Liberals stand for something quite different:
the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.

Sorry, but yous all can't reassign nomenclature at will.. A liberal is still a liberal and leftist totalist is a totalist from the left paradigm of the political spectrum, liberals are not that far left..But go ahead and try to reinvent political science terminology, we just laugh at Dotards of fascism..
 
Speaking of workers paradises...Venezuela's Inflation hits 43,378%
Yay Democrats let’s elect more Puerto Rican socialists!

A minimum-wage worker in Venezuela could afford 5 cups of coffee each month — and nothing else



How many times must Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/Socialists be shown the failure of their doctrines.....the misery, slaughter, and oppression that results.....

....before they catch-on????


Ever????



20170707_socliats.jpg
The thirst for power, by any means necessary at the ballot box, is apparently their intoxicating elixir, eclipsing all ideological logic and reason... lol
 
...is spelled s-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-t.

And that's not American.


1. Those of us who have studied history have been saying it all along.
Socialists are, colloquially and correctly called Liberals...or, Modern Liberals if you prefer.

Communist John Dewey persuaded the Socialist Party to steal the name Liberal, and their control of the media has cemented the term for them....much as they now call their homes 'Blue States' when communists, socialists, anarchists have always been represented as 'Red.'



Classical Liberals, called conservatives today, and the Founders, stood for
individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


The Leftists called Liberals stand for something quite different:
the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.




2. "Socialism had the lowest percentage positive rating and the highest negative rating of any term tested. Still, more than a third of Americans say they have a positive image of socialism.

Exactly how Americans define "socialism" or what exactly they think of when they hear the word is not known. The research simply measures Americans' reactions when a survey interviewer reads the word to them -- an exercise that helps shed light on connotations associated with this frequently used term.

There are significant differences in reactions to "socialism" across ideological and partisan groups:

· A majority of 53% of Democrats have a positive image of socialism, compared to 17% of Republicans.

· Sixty-one percent of liberals say their image of socialism is positive, compared to 39% of moderates and 20% of conservatives."
Socialism Viewed Positively by 36% of Americans


3. "Democrats see major upset as socialist beats top-ranking US congressman
Joe Crowley, 10-term Democrat expected to be party’s next House leader, loses to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28, in New York


4. And lots of Democrats voted for full-bore Communist, Bernie Sanders.




This is who you are if you vote Democrat.
You're certainly not American.
8 years ago they were afraid to admit they were socialists.

Eventually they'll have the courage to admit they are communists.
and what makes them socialist or communist?
Why should I have to explain this to you?
Because it helps with yer mental illness.
 
No.

Today, those who subscribe to the principles of the American Revolution — individual liberty, limited government, the free market, and the rule of law — call themselves by a variety of terms, including conservative, libertarian, classical liberal, and liberal. We see problems with all of those terms. "Conservative" smacks of an unwillingness to change, of a desire to preserve the status quo. Only in America do people seem to refer to free-market capitalism — the most progressive, dynamic, and ever-changing system the world has ever known — as conservative. Additionally, many contemporary American conservatives favor state intervention in some areas, most notably in trade and into our private lives.

"Classical liberal" is a bit closer to the mark, but the word "classical" fails to capture the contemporary vibrancy of the ideas of freedom.

"Liberal" may well be the perfect word in most of the world — the liberals in societies from China to Iran to South Africa to Argentina tend to be supporters of human rights and free markets — but its meaning has clearly been altered in the contemporary United States.

The Jeffersonian philosophy that animates Cato's work has increasingly come to be called "libertarianism" or "market liberalism." It combines an appreciation for entrepreneurship, the market process, and lower taxes with strict respect for civil liberties and skepticism about the benefits of both the welfare state and foreign military adventurism.

This vision brings the wisdom of the American Founders to bear on the problems of today. As did the Founders, it looks to the future with optimism and excitement, eager to discover what great things women and men will do in the coming century. Market liberals appreciate the complexity of a great society, recognizing that socialism and government planning are just too clumsy for the modern world. It is — or used to be — the conventional wisdom that a more complex society needs more government, but the truth is just the opposite. The simpler the society, the less damage government planning does. Planning is cumbersome in an agricultural society, costly in an industrial economy, and impossible in the information age. Today collectivism and planning are outmoded and backward, a drag on social progress.

Libertarians have a cosmopolitan, inclusive vision for society. We applaud the progressive extension of the promises of the Declaration of Independence to more people, especially to women, African-Americans, religious minorities, and gay and lesbian people. Our greatest challenge today is to continue to extend the promise of political freedom and economic opportunity to those who are still denied it, in our own country and around the world.

Cato's Mission



Let's cut to the chase: do you vote Democrat, and, if so, are you ready to admit that you're a socialist?

So your trying to say that 65 million voters are socialist?
 
Speaking of workers paradises...Venezuela's Inflation hits 43,378%
Yay Democrats let’s elect more Puerto Rican socialists!

A minimum-wage worker in Venezuela could afford 5 cups of coffee each month — and nothing else



How many times must Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/Socialists be shown the failure of their doctrines.....the misery, slaughter, and oppression that results.....

....before they catch-on????


Ever????



20170707_socliats.jpg

Socialism failed because Bush, er, or something.



Is that one of their new excuses???




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Speaking of workers paradises...Venezuela's Inflation hits 43,378%
Yay Democrats let’s elect more Puerto Rican socialists!

A minimum-wage worker in Venezuela could afford 5 cups of coffee each month — and nothing else



How many times must Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/Socialists be shown the failure of their doctrines.....the misery, slaughter, and oppression that results.....

....before they catch-on????


Ever????



20170707_socliats.jpg
The thirst for power, by any means necessary at the ballot box, is apparently their intoxicating elixir, eclipsing all ideological logic and reason... lol




Coulter:


1. If liberals could trust the voters, they wouldn’t need the Court to invent ludicrous ‘constitutional rights’ for them in the first place.

2. The only limit on liberal insanity in this country is how many issues liberals can get before a court…A lot is at stake for liberals with the court. If they lose a liberal vote, they will be forced t fight political battles through a messy little system know as ‘democracy.’

3. When conservative judges strike down laws, it’s because of what’s in the Constitution. When liberal judges strike down laws (or impose new laws, such as tax increases), it’s because of what’s in the New York Times.
 
No.

Today, those who subscribe to the principles of the American Revolution — individual liberty, limited government, the free market, and the rule of law — call themselves by a variety of terms, including conservative, libertarian, classical liberal, and liberal. We see problems with all of those terms. "Conservative" smacks of an unwillingness to change, of a desire to preserve the status quo. Only in America do people seem to refer to free-market capitalism — the most progressive, dynamic, and ever-changing system the world has ever known — as conservative. Additionally, many contemporary American conservatives favor state intervention in some areas, most notably in trade and into our private lives.

"Classical liberal" is a bit closer to the mark, but the word "classical" fails to capture the contemporary vibrancy of the ideas of freedom.

"Liberal" may well be the perfect word in most of the world — the liberals in societies from China to Iran to South Africa to Argentina tend to be supporters of human rights and free markets — but its meaning has clearly been altered in the contemporary United States.

The Jeffersonian philosophy that animates Cato's work has increasingly come to be called "libertarianism" or "market liberalism." It combines an appreciation for entrepreneurship, the market process, and lower taxes with strict respect for civil liberties and skepticism about the benefits of both the welfare state and foreign military adventurism.

This vision brings the wisdom of the American Founders to bear on the problems of today. As did the Founders, it looks to the future with optimism and excitement, eager to discover what great things women and men will do in the coming century. Market liberals appreciate the complexity of a great society, recognizing that socialism and government planning are just too clumsy for the modern world. It is — or used to be — the conventional wisdom that a more complex society needs more government, but the truth is just the opposite. The simpler the society, the less damage government planning does. Planning is cumbersome in an agricultural society, costly in an industrial economy, and impossible in the information age. Today collectivism and planning are outmoded and backward, a drag on social progress.

Libertarians have a cosmopolitan, inclusive vision for society. We applaud the progressive extension of the promises of the Declaration of Independence to more people, especially to women, African-Americans, religious minorities, and gay and lesbian people. Our greatest challenge today is to continue to extend the promise of political freedom and economic opportunity to those who are still denied it, in our own country and around the world.

Cato's Mission



Let's cut to the chase: do you vote Democrat, and, if so, are you ready to admit that you're a socialist?

So your trying to say that 65 million voters are socialist?



Sooo....you don't care to answer the question?

I believe you've inadvertently answered the question.


Glad you're embarrassed.
 
...is spelled s-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-t.

And that's not American.


1. Those of us who have studied history have been saying it all along.
Socialists are, colloquially and correctly called Liberals...or, Modern Liberals if you prefer.

Communist John Dewey persuaded the Socialist Party to steal the name Liberal, and their control of the media has cemented the term for them....much as they now call their homes 'Blue States' when communists, socialists, anarchists have always been represented as 'Red.'



Classical Liberals, called conservatives today, and the Founders, stood for
individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


The Leftists called Liberals stand for something quite different:
the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.




2. "Socialism had the lowest percentage positive rating and the highest negative rating of any term tested. Still, more than a third of Americans say they have a positive image of socialism.

Exactly how Americans define "socialism" or what exactly they think of when they hear the word is not known. The research simply measures Americans' reactions when a survey interviewer reads the word to them -- an exercise that helps shed light on connotations associated with this frequently used term.

There are significant differences in reactions to "socialism" across ideological and partisan groups:

· A majority of 53% of Democrats have a positive image of socialism, compared to 17% of Republicans.

· Sixty-one percent of liberals say their image of socialism is positive, compared to 39% of moderates and 20% of conservatives."
Socialism Viewed Positively by 36% of Americans


3. "Democrats see major upset as socialist beats top-ranking US congressman
Joe Crowley, 10-term Democrat expected to be party’s next House leader, loses to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28, in New York


4. And lots of Democrats voted for full-bore Communist, Bernie Sanders.




This is who you are if you vote Democrat.
You're certainly not American.
You have a nice set of alternative "facts". Thanks for the laugh
 
...is spelled s-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-t.

And that's not American.


1. Those of us who have studied history have been saying it all along.
Socialists are, colloquially and correctly called Liberals...or, Modern Liberals if you prefer.

Communist John Dewey persuaded the Socialist Party to steal the name Liberal, and their control of the media has cemented the term for them....much as they now call their homes 'Blue States' when communists, socialists, anarchists have always been represented as 'Red.'



Classical Liberals, called conservatives today, and the Founders, stood for
individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


The Leftists called Liberals stand for something quite different:
the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.




2. "Socialism had the lowest percentage positive rating and the highest negative rating of any term tested. Still, more than a third of Americans say they have a positive image of socialism.

Exactly how Americans define "socialism" or what exactly they think of when they hear the word is not known. The research simply measures Americans' reactions when a survey interviewer reads the word to them -- an exercise that helps shed light on connotations associated with this frequently used term.

There are significant differences in reactions to "socialism" across ideological and partisan groups:

· A majority of 53% of Democrats have a positive image of socialism, compared to 17% of Republicans.

· Sixty-one percent of liberals say their image of socialism is positive, compared to 39% of moderates and 20% of conservatives."
Socialism Viewed Positively by 36% of Americans


3. "Democrats see major upset as socialist beats top-ranking US congressman
Joe Crowley, 10-term Democrat expected to be party’s next House leader, loses to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28, in New York


4. And lots of Democrats voted for full-bore Communist, Bernie Sanders.




This is who you are if you vote Democrat.
You're certainly not American.
You have a nice set of alternative "facts". Thanks for the laugh


An intelligent attempt at refutation would be providing the statements you can show to be incorrect.

But, ExLaxMan, you, being as dumb as asphalt, simply write 'alternative "facts"' as though your statements had any import; your version of 'is not, isssssss noottttttttt!!!'

In short....you must be a Liberal.
 
...is spelled s-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-t.

And that's not American.


1. Those of us who have studied history have been saying it all along.
Socialists are, colloquially and correctly called Liberals...or, Modern Liberals if you prefer.

Communist John Dewey persuaded the Socialist Party to steal the name Liberal, and their control of the media has cemented the term for them....much as they now call their homes 'Blue States' when communists, socialists, anarchists have always been represented as 'Red.'



Classical Liberals, called conservatives today, and the Founders, stood for
individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


The Leftists called Liberals stand for something quite different:
the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.




2. "Socialism had the lowest percentage positive rating and the highest negative rating of any term tested. Still, more than a third of Americans say they have a positive image of socialism.

Exactly how Americans define "socialism" or what exactly they think of when they hear the word is not known. The research simply measures Americans' reactions when a survey interviewer reads the word to them -- an exercise that helps shed light on connotations associated with this frequently used term.

There are significant differences in reactions to "socialism" across ideological and partisan groups:

· A majority of 53% of Democrats have a positive image of socialism, compared to 17% of Republicans.

· Sixty-one percent of liberals say their image of socialism is positive, compared to 39% of moderates and 20% of conservatives."
Socialism Viewed Positively by 36% of Americans


3. "Democrats see major upset as socialist beats top-ranking US congressman
Joe Crowley, 10-term Democrat expected to be party’s next House leader, loses to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28, in New York


4. And lots of Democrats voted for full-bore Communist, Bernie Sanders.




This is who you are if you vote Democrat.
You're certainly not American.
8 years ago they were afraid to admit they were socialists.

Eventually they'll have the courage to admit they are communists.
and what makes them socialist or communist?

Who the hell cares? They are collectivists, they are all ice cream with minor differences in flavor.
A church is a collective does that make them bad?
 
No.

Today, those who subscribe to the principles of the American Revolution — individual liberty, limited government, the free market, and the rule of law — call themselves by a variety of terms, including conservative, libertarian, classical liberal, and liberal. We see problems with all of those terms. "Conservative" smacks of an unwillingness to change, of a desire to preserve the status quo. Only in America do people seem to refer to free-market capitalism — the most progressive, dynamic, and ever-changing system the world has ever known — as conservative. Additionally, many contemporary American conservatives favor state intervention in some areas, most notably in trade and into our private lives.

"Classical liberal" is a bit closer to the mark, but the word "classical" fails to capture the contemporary vibrancy of the ideas of freedom.

"Liberal" may well be the perfect word in most of the world — the liberals in societies from China to Iran to South Africa to Argentina tend to be supporters of human rights and free markets — but its meaning has clearly been altered in the contemporary United States.

The Jeffersonian philosophy that animates Cato's work has increasingly come to be called "libertarianism" or "market liberalism." It combines an appreciation for entrepreneurship, the market process, and lower taxes with strict respect for civil liberties and skepticism about the benefits of both the welfare state and foreign military adventurism.

This vision brings the wisdom of the American Founders to bear on the problems of today. As did the Founders, it looks to the future with optimism and excitement, eager to discover what great things women and men will do in the coming century. Market liberals appreciate the complexity of a great society, recognizing that socialism and government planning are just too clumsy for the modern world. It is — or used to be — the conventional wisdom that a more complex society needs more government, but the truth is just the opposite. The simpler the society, the less damage government planning does. Planning is cumbersome in an agricultural society, costly in an industrial economy, and impossible in the information age. Today collectivism and planning are outmoded and backward, a drag on social progress.

Libertarians have a cosmopolitan, inclusive vision for society. We applaud the progressive extension of the promises of the Declaration of Independence to more people, especially to women, African-Americans, religious minorities, and gay and lesbian people. Our greatest challenge today is to continue to extend the promise of political freedom and economic opportunity to those who are still denied it, in our own country and around the world.

Cato's Mission

Not sure if you're being serious or are just better at propaganda than many of your associates.
First of all, when something's not broken, you don't fix it. The PROOF of the pudding is the position in global affairs this nation achieved under CONSERVATIVE leadership. How far DOWN must this nation fall before you consider it "great"? And any notion that anything (a nation) can be everything to everyone is horseshit plain and simple.

Which is why this is a REPUBLIC and not a DEMOCRACY. A Republic is far more protective of INDIVIDUAL rights.
Your side wants ti transform it into a Democracy with rule by the majority. Just the opposite of what you're preaching.

You accuse the founding Conservative (by today's standards) right of an unwillingness to be flexible and change, and yet these are the same people who wrote the Constitution EXACTLY guaranteeing that and proclaiming ALL MEN WERE CREATED EQUAL. And please don't hand me the worn out slavery line....regardless of proclamation...all that is required for evil men to prevail is for good men to do nothing and that is has been true throughout human existence in ALL societies.

If what you people call "Social Progress" is a decline in standard of living (which always happens with Socialism), and converting our children into sexually active acceptable targets, then no thank you. I'll remain a PROUD Conservative.

Cosmopolitan, as your side has proven, means hairless, feminine men and freaks parading naked in front of our children. Again...NO THANKS

20170707_socliats.jpg
 
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Are we going to have an actual definition of the term from which we all work, or is this just another simplistic partisan circle jerk?

We already have elements of what could be called "socialism". Most people understand this stuff exists on a continuum.

Get specific and serious. Or not. Whatever.
.
We have a little Fabian socialism but zero levels of socialism on the govt. ownership of the means of production like Mexico...
 
...is spelled s-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-t.

And that's not American.


1. Those of us who have studied history have been saying it all along.
Socialists are, colloquially and correctly called Liberals...or, Modern Liberals if you prefer.

Communist John Dewey persuaded the Socialist Party to steal the name Liberal, and their control of the media has cemented the term for them....much as they now call their homes 'Blue States' when communists, socialists, anarchists have always been represented as 'Red.'



Classical Liberals, called conservatives today, and the Founders, stood for
individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


The Leftists called Liberals stand for something quite different:
the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.




2. "Socialism had the lowest percentage positive rating and the highest negative rating of any term tested. Still, more than a third of Americans say they have a positive image of socialism.

Exactly how Americans define "socialism" or what exactly they think of when they hear the word is not known. The research simply measures Americans' reactions when a survey interviewer reads the word to them -- an exercise that helps shed light on connotations associated with this frequently used term.

There are significant differences in reactions to "socialism" across ideological and partisan groups:

· A majority of 53% of Democrats have a positive image of socialism, compared to 17% of Republicans.

· Sixty-one percent of liberals say their image of socialism is positive, compared to 39% of moderates and 20% of conservatives."
Socialism Viewed Positively by 36% of Americans


3. "Democrats see major upset as socialist beats top-ranking US congressman
Joe Crowley, 10-term Democrat expected to be party’s next House leader, loses to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28, in New York


4. And lots of Democrats voted for full-bore Communist, Bernie Sanders.




This is who you are if you vote Democrat.
You're certainly not American.
You have a nice set of alternative "facts". Thanks for the laugh


An intelligent attempt at refutation would be providing the statements you can show to be incorrect.

But, ExLaxMan, you, being as dumb as asphalt, simply write 'alternative "facts"' as though your statements had any import; your version of 'is not, isssssss noottttttttt!!!'

In short....you must be a Liberal.
It is plainly clear to almost every one here you have no compulsion to be understanding of foreign ideas to your religion.
 
...is spelled s-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-t.

And that's not American.


1. Those of us who have studied history have been saying it all along.
Socialists are, colloquially and correctly called Liberals...or, Modern Liberals if you prefer.

Communist John Dewey persuaded the Socialist Party to steal the name Liberal, and their control of the media has cemented the term for them....much as they now call their homes 'Blue States' when communists, socialists, anarchists have always been represented as 'Red.'



Classical Liberals, called conservatives today, and the Founders, stood for
individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


The Leftists called Liberals stand for something quite different:
the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.




2. "Socialism had the lowest percentage positive rating and the highest negative rating of any term tested. Still, more than a third of Americans say they have a positive image of socialism.

Exactly how Americans define "socialism" or what exactly they think of when they hear the word is not known. The research simply measures Americans' reactions when a survey interviewer reads the word to them -- an exercise that helps shed light on connotations associated with this frequently used term.

There are significant differences in reactions to "socialism" across ideological and partisan groups:

· A majority of 53% of Democrats have a positive image of socialism, compared to 17% of Republicans.

· Sixty-one percent of liberals say their image of socialism is positive, compared to 39% of moderates and 20% of conservatives."
Socialism Viewed Positively by 36% of Americans


3. "Democrats see major upset as socialist beats top-ranking US congressman
Joe Crowley, 10-term Democrat expected to be party’s next House leader, loses to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28, in New York


4. And lots of Democrats voted for full-bore Communist, Bernie Sanders.




This is who you are if you vote Democrat.
You're certainly not American.
You have a nice set of alternative "facts". Thanks for the laugh


An intelligent attempt at refutation would be providing the statements you can show to be incorrect.

But, ExLaxMan, you, being as dumb as asphalt, simply write 'alternative "facts"' as though your statements had any import; your version of 'is not, isssssss noottttttttt!!!'

In short....you must be a Liberal.
It is plainly clear to almost every one here you have no compulsion to be understanding of foreign ideas to your religion.



I've never said what my religion is, so, once again, you've taken that leap into space.


One would imagine that the vacuum between your ears was space enough for you.
 
No.

Today, those who subscribe to the principles of the American Revolution — individual liberty, limited government, the free market, and the rule of law — call themselves by a variety of terms, including conservative, libertarian, classical liberal, and liberal. We see problems with all of those terms. "Conservative" smacks of an unwillingness to change, of a desire to preserve the status quo. Only in America do people seem to refer to free-market capitalism — the most progressive, dynamic, and ever-changing system the world has ever known — as conservative. Additionally, many contemporary American conservatives favor state intervention in some areas, most notably in trade and into our private lives.

"Classical liberal" is a bit closer to the mark, but the word "classical" fails to capture the contemporary vibrancy of the ideas of freedom.

"Liberal" may well be the perfect word in most of the world — the liberals in societies from China to Iran to South Africa to Argentina tend to be supporters of human rights and free markets — but its meaning has clearly been altered in the contemporary United States.

The Jeffersonian philosophy that animates Cato's work has increasingly come to be called "libertarianism" or "market liberalism." It combines an appreciation for entrepreneurship, the market process, and lower taxes with strict respect for civil liberties and skepticism about the benefits of both the welfare state and foreign military adventurism.

This vision brings the wisdom of the American Founders to bear on the problems of today. As did the Founders, it looks to the future with optimism and excitement, eager to discover what great things women and men will do in the coming century. Market liberals appreciate the complexity of a great society, recognizing that socialism and government planning are just too clumsy for the modern world. It is — or used to be — the conventional wisdom that a more complex society needs more government, but the truth is just the opposite. The simpler the society, the less damage government planning does. Planning is cumbersome in an agricultural society, costly in an industrial economy, and impossible in the information age. Today collectivism and planning are outmoded and backward, a drag on social progress.

Libertarians have a cosmopolitan, inclusive vision for society. We applaud the progressive extension of the promises of the Declaration of Independence to more people, especially to women, African-Americans, religious minorities, and gay and lesbian people. Our greatest challenge today is to continue to extend the promise of political freedom and economic opportunity to those who are still denied it, in our own country and around the world.

Cato's Mission



Let's cut to the chase: do you vote Democrat, and, if so, are you ready to admit that you're a socialist?

So your trying to say that 65 million voters are socialist?



Sooo....you don't care to answer the question?

I believe you've inadvertently answered the question.


Glad you're embarrassed.

Never said I would answer a second one. My inference stands.
 
No.

Today, those who subscribe to the principles of the American Revolution — individual liberty, limited government, the free market, and the rule of law — call themselves by a variety of terms, including conservative, libertarian, classical liberal, and liberal. We see problems with all of those terms. "Conservative" smacks of an unwillingness to change, of a desire to preserve the status quo. Only in America do people seem to refer to free-market capitalism — the most progressive, dynamic, and ever-changing system the world has ever known — as conservative. Additionally, many contemporary American conservatives favor state intervention in some areas, most notably in trade and into our private lives.

"Classical liberal" is a bit closer to the mark, but the word "classical" fails to capture the contemporary vibrancy of the ideas of freedom.

"Liberal" may well be the perfect word in most of the world — the liberals in societies from China to Iran to South Africa to Argentina tend to be supporters of human rights and free markets — but its meaning has clearly been altered in the contemporary United States.

The Jeffersonian philosophy that animates Cato's work has increasingly come to be called "libertarianism" or "market liberalism." It combines an appreciation for entrepreneurship, the market process, and lower taxes with strict respect for civil liberties and skepticism about the benefits of both the welfare state and foreign military adventurism.

This vision brings the wisdom of the American Founders to bear on the problems of today. As did the Founders, it looks to the future with optimism and excitement, eager to discover what great things women and men will do in the coming century. Market liberals appreciate the complexity of a great society, recognizing that socialism and government planning are just too clumsy for the modern world. It is — or used to be — the conventional wisdom that a more complex society needs more government, but the truth is just the opposite. The simpler the society, the less damage government planning does. Planning is cumbersome in an agricultural society, costly in an industrial economy, and impossible in the information age. Today collectivism and planning are outmoded and backward, a drag on social progress.

Libertarians have a cosmopolitan, inclusive vision for society. We applaud the progressive extension of the promises of the Declaration of Independence to more people, especially to women, African-Americans, religious minorities, and gay and lesbian people. Our greatest challenge today is to continue to extend the promise of political freedom and economic opportunity to those who are still denied it, in our own country and around the world.

Cato's Mission



Let's cut to the chase: do you vote Democrat, and, if so, are you ready to admit that you're a socialist?

So your trying to say that 65 million voters are socialist?



Sooo....you don't care to answer the question?

I believe you've inadvertently answered the question.


Glad you're embarrassed.

Never said I would answer a second one. My inference stands.




I'm perfectly copacetic with leaving the obvious conclusion of your refusal to answer.

Sooo....why are you back?
 
...is spelled s-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-t.

And that's not American.


1. Those of us who have studied history have been saying it all along.
Socialists are, colloquially and correctly called Liberals...or, Modern Liberals if you prefer.

Communist John Dewey persuaded the Socialist Party to steal the name Liberal, and their control of the media has cemented the term for them....much as they now call their homes 'Blue States' when communists, socialists, anarchists have always been represented as 'Red.'



Classical Liberals, called conservatives today, and the Founders, stood for
individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


The Leftists called Liberals stand for something quite different:
the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.




2. "Socialism had the lowest percentage positive rating and the highest negative rating of any term tested. Still, more than a third of Americans say they have a positive image of socialism.

Exactly how Americans define "socialism" or what exactly they think of when they hear the word is not known. The research simply measures Americans' reactions when a survey interviewer reads the word to them -- an exercise that helps shed light on connotations associated with this frequently used term.

There are significant differences in reactions to "socialism" across ideological and partisan groups:

· A majority of 53% of Democrats have a positive image of socialism, compared to 17% of Republicans.

· Sixty-one percent of liberals say their image of socialism is positive, compared to 39% of moderates and 20% of conservatives."
Socialism Viewed Positively by 36% of Americans


3. "Democrats see major upset as socialist beats top-ranking US congressman
Joe Crowley, 10-term Democrat expected to be party’s next House leader, loses to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28, in New York


4. And lots of Democrats voted for full-bore Communist, Bernie Sanders.




This is who you are if you vote Democrat.
You're certainly not American.

How do you know I'm not a classical liberal?
Doesn't fit your made up mind?
Read Russell?
Dumb people have no doubts, people with a few brains always have doubts
 
No.

Today, those who subscribe to the principles of the American Revolution — individual liberty, limited government, the free market, and the rule of law — call themselves by a variety of terms, including conservative, libertarian, classical liberal, and liberal. We see problems with all of those terms. "Conservative" smacks of an unwillingness to change, of a desire to preserve the status quo. Only in America do people seem to refer to free-market capitalism — the most progressive, dynamic, and ever-changing system the world has ever known — as conservative. Additionally, many contemporary American conservatives favor state intervention in some areas, most notably in trade and into our private lives.

"Classical liberal" is a bit closer to the mark, but the word "classical" fails to capture the contemporary vibrancy of the ideas of freedom.

"Liberal" may well be the perfect word in most of the world — the liberals in societies from China to Iran to South Africa to Argentina tend to be supporters of human rights and free markets — but its meaning has clearly been altered in the contemporary United States.

The Jeffersonian philosophy that animates Cato's work has increasingly come to be called "libertarianism" or "market liberalism." It combines an appreciation for entrepreneurship, the market process, and lower taxes with strict respect for civil liberties and skepticism about the benefits of both the welfare state and foreign military adventurism.

This vision brings the wisdom of the American Founders to bear on the problems of today. As did the Founders, it looks to the future with optimism and excitement, eager to discover what great things women and men will do in the coming century. Market liberals appreciate the complexity of a great society, recognizing that socialism and government planning are just too clumsy for the modern world. It is — or used to be — the conventional wisdom that a more complex society needs more government, but the truth is just the opposite. The simpler the society, the less damage government planning does. Planning is cumbersome in an agricultural society, costly in an industrial economy, and impossible in the information age. Today collectivism and planning are outmoded and backward, a drag on social progress.

Libertarians have a cosmopolitan, inclusive vision for society. We applaud the progressive extension of the promises of the Declaration of Independence to more people, especially to women, African-Americans, religious minorities, and gay and lesbian people. Our greatest challenge today is to continue to extend the promise of political freedom and economic opportunity to those who are still denied it, in our own country and around the world.

Cato's Mission



Let's cut to the chase: do you vote Democrat, and, if so, are you ready to admit that you're a socialist?

So your trying to say that 65 million voters are socialist?



Sooo....you don't care to answer the question?

I believe you've inadvertently answered the question.


Glad you're embarrassed.

Never said I would answer a second one. My inference stands.




I'm perfectly copacetic with leaving the obvious conclusion of your refusal to answer.

Sooo....why are you back?
Copacetic? Ooooohhh
 
...is spelled s-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-t.

And that's not American.


1. Those of us who have studied history have been saying it all along.
Socialists are, colloquially and correctly called Liberals...or, Modern Liberals if you prefer.

Communist John Dewey persuaded the Socialist Party to steal the name Liberal, and their control of the media has cemented the term for them....much as they now call their homes 'Blue States' when communists, socialists, anarchists have always been represented as 'Red.'



Classical Liberals, called conservatives today, and the Founders, stood for
individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


The Leftists called Liberals stand for something quite different:
the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.




2. "Socialism had the lowest percentage positive rating and the highest negative rating of any term tested. Still, more than a third of Americans say they have a positive image of socialism.

Exactly how Americans define "socialism" or what exactly they think of when they hear the word is not known. The research simply measures Americans' reactions when a survey interviewer reads the word to them -- an exercise that helps shed light on connotations associated with this frequently used term.

There are significant differences in reactions to "socialism" across ideological and partisan groups:

· A majority of 53% of Democrats have a positive image of socialism, compared to 17% of Republicans.

· Sixty-one percent of liberals say their image of socialism is positive, compared to 39% of moderates and 20% of conservatives."
Socialism Viewed Positively by 36% of Americans


3. "Democrats see major upset as socialist beats top-ranking US congressman
Joe Crowley, 10-term Democrat expected to be party’s next House leader, loses to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28, in New York


4. And lots of Democrats voted for full-bore Communist, Bernie Sanders.




This is who you are if you vote Democrat.
You're certainly not American.
8 years ago they were afraid to admit they were socialists.

Eventually they'll have the courage to admit they are communists.
and what makes them socialist or communist?
Why should I have to explain this to you?
Because it helps with yer mental illness.
Mental illness??

You mean being normal???
 

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