Zone1 Noah's Ark

[frigidweirdo]

The ark was shaped like a long box as is suggested by the dimensions.

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Are you serious?

You think because it says "it's this long, this wide, this deep" that it's got to be a box?

I guess if you believe there some dude up in the clouds that loves you, you can believe anything.

 

[Woodznutz]

Are you serious?

You think because it says "it's this long, this wide, this deep" that it's got to be a box?

I guess if you believe there some dude up in the clouds that loves you, you can believe anything.

Protest all you want, the ark was a big, long, watertight boxlike structure.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Protest all you want, the ark was a big, long, watertight boxlike structure.

I think it was the shape of a giant cockroach.

Seeing as we're just making things up.

 

[surada]

Right, it's a myth.

Glad we got that settled.

The Israelites failed to record the devastating defeat they suffered under Pharaoh Merneptah in about 1208 BCE, instead recording a series of glorious victories over their neighbours.

So in an Ancient Near Eastern context we can see how easy it could be to doctor history.

Modern scholars have been able to learn the truth of early Israel, in spite of best attempts of Israelite scribes.

For the Egyptians to have destroyed all evidence of the Exodus would have been a mammoth task. They would have needed not only to laboriously destroy all official and commercial records that might pertain to the time of the Exodus, but all physical evidence of a miraculous sea crossing, the loss of an entire army in pursuit, and then the detritus left behind by presumably over two million people during a period of forty years in the wilderness. Would they even bother cleaning up the wilderness in case we find some evidence there three thousand years later? Just not plausible.

 

[surada]

Are you serious?

You think because it says "it's this long, this wide, this deep" that it's got to be a box?

I guess if you believe there some dude up in the clouds that loves you, you can believe anything.

Ark is a box.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Ark is a box.

Ark CAN BE a box.

Doesn't mean it is.

"Stool" CAN BE a poop, doesn't mean it is.

Simple rule for English.

 

[surada]

Ark CAN BE a box.

Doesn't mean it is.

"Stool" CAN BE a poop, doesn't mean it is.

Simple rule for English.

The definition I found says box like ark of the covenant.

 

[surada]

frigidweirdo

Most coracles are round or boxy in shape and are more or less a basket with the tarred skin of a bullock or horse stretched over it. Later in history, the skin of an animal was replaced with tarred cloth, which further lightened the weight of the craft.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The definition I found says box like ark of the covenant.

Good for you.

Again, do you think that because a word CAN mean something, it does?

Do you think when it says "The doctor sat on the wooden stool" that it means the doctor sat on the wooden poo poo because "stool" CAN mean "poo poo"?

 

[frigidweirdo]

frigidweirdo

Most coracles are round or boxy in shape and are more or less a basket with the tarred skin of a bullock or horse stretched over it. Later in history, the skin of an animal was replaced with tarred cloth, which further lightened the weight of the craft.

And this ship was the supposedly the size of the LARGEST WOODEN SHIP EVER BUILT that needed pumps to keep it afloat.

You think anyone could build a wooden box that's going to be fit for 2 million species of animals times two? Plus their food?

 

[surada]

And this ship was the supposedly the size of the LARGEST WOODEN SHIP EVER BUILT that needed pumps to keep it afloat.

You think anyone could build a wooden box that's going to be fit for 2 million species of animals times two? Plus their food?

Absolutely not.

Curiously. They explain that gopher wood is actually reeds. So they're saying the coracle was built of reeds and pitch like Moses' basket.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Absolutely not.

Curiously. They explain that gopher wood is actually reeds. So they're saying the coracle was built of reeds and pitch like Moses' basket.

You think that would be any better than the Wyoming?

Nope, it wouldn't last five minutes.

 

[surada]

You think that would be any better than the Wyoming?

Nope, it wouldn't last five minutes.

They are just trying to provide the details for the myth.

 

[frigidweirdo]

They are just trying to provide the details for the myth.

A myth that is, quite clearly, not true. Like most of the Bible.

 

[surada]

A myth that is, quite clearly, not true. Like most of the Bible.

It's a great tale to illustrate redemption.

 

[Woodznutz]

Good for you.

Again, do you think that because a word CAN mean something, it does?

Do you think when it says "The doctor sat on the wooden stool" that it means the doctor sat on the wooden poo poo because "stool" CAN mean "poo poo"?

Context is everything, even in your example. In the context of the ark the instructions/terminology are for a building, not a big ship with a curved hull. How many buildings do you see with curved walls? As well, the ark likely had a pitched roof, like any other building.

If you are going to criticize the story you should read it first, carefully.

 

[Cougarbear]

The story of Noah's ark an ancient myth from Sumer.

 

[surada]

Cougarbear

Now that's funny. That's the old Ballard expedition. Totally worthless like the Russian who claimed Jesus moved to India.

 

[Cougarbear]

Cougarbear

Now that's funny. That's the old Ballard expedition. Totally worthless like the Russian who claimed Jesus moved to India.

It’s a new one. Check the dates. Ignorance is bliss for you.

 

[Woodznutz]

The flood story is an ancient myth from _____________.
Take yer pick, believe the one you like best.

I like the Biblical one.