Time for a 3rd party?

[bill718]

Americans are not very happy with their 2-party system. Today the GOP holds a 4-point edge over Democrats going into the 2020 midterms, and will no doubt make substantial gains in congress this time around, but neither party can manage even a 50% approval rating.

Is it time for a 3rd party? An independent group that would take ideas from both conservative and liberal platforms. If so, what would it be like? Could a group like this finally be what the American voter is looking for?

Thoughts?

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[Snouter]

A "3rd party" is generally an avenue for democrats who get ousted to pretend they are republicans and combined with voter fraud get elected. Joe Lieberman is a prime example. He lost the democrat primary but still retained his neocon office.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Americans are not very happy with their 2-party system. Today the GOP holds a 4-point edge over Democrats going into the 2020 midterms, and will no doubt make substantial gains in congress this time around, but neither party can manage even a 50% approval rating.

Is it time for a 3rd party? An independent group that would take ideas from both conservative and liberal platforms. If so, what would it be like? Could a group like this finally be what the American voter is looking for?

Thoughts?

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We have a hundred or so third parties.

The only thing a major third party candidate accomplishes is to ensure a democratic win.

No third party candidate in the last hundred years has been able to break 20% of the vote.

Ross Perot came closest in 92 with almost 19%.

 

[WinterBorn]

Rather than a 3rd party, I think we should do away with political parties altogether.

No more party primaries. If we need to have a primary to narrow down the number of candidates, it will just be an open election.

And let's face it, both parties are far more worried about defeating the other party than they are about serving their constituents.

Candidates can advertise that they are liberal, conservative or whatever. But no longer do they have to toe the party line.

 

[there4eyeM]

Rather than a 3rd party, I think we should do away with political parties altogether.

No more party primaries. If we need to have a primary to narrow down the number of candidates, it will just be an open election.

And let's face it, both parties are far more worried about defeating the other party than they are about serving their constituents.

Candidates can advertise that they are liberal, conservative or whatever. But no longer do they have to toe the party line.

Interesting concept. More than just what the duopoly offers is necessary if the republic's health is to be maintained. No parties or many, it has to be better for the people than the present situation that functions only to maintain itself.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Good luck with that.

 

[BULLDOG]

Rather than a 3rd party, I think we should do away with political parties altogether.

No more party primaries. If we need to have a primary to narrow down the number of candidates, it will just be an open election.

And let's face it, both parties are far more worried about defeating the other party than they are about serving their constituents.

Candidates can advertise that they are liberal, conservative or whatever. But no longer do they have to toe the party line.

As long as parties are allowed to spend that much money, the candidates would be a fool to forego all that money and try to run without it.

 

[Mac1958]

Either we try, or we change the system under which the two "major" parties operate.

Otherwise, we're willingly bending over and taking it. It looks like many are just fine with this rapid decay.

When is enough enough, gang?

 

[there4eyeM]

The money involved in campaigning is a major problem. Unlimited spending under the guise of "free speech" invites comparisons to yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. There are limits to any 'right' (except, perhaps, the right to be stupid).

 

[1srelluc]

If Theodore Roosevelt could not pull it off so what makes you think anyone else could today?

All the stakeholders (Ds/Rs/MSM) would find common cause in a hurry and stamp a viable 3rd party into the ground.

Nah, the only way that would ever happen is after a .mil coup where the government is dissolved and the media put under .mil control for a long period of time then the next clown show would start.

 

[XponentialChaos]

“Go ahead, throw your vote away. Ahahahahahahahaha!”

 

[there4eyeM]

The shill ratio in any thread is inversely proportional to the intellectual effort required by that thread to have anything to say.
No one is militantly promoting more parties and no one is equally opposed. The two wings of the duopoly sense little danger from an opponent party.
Hopefully, it will feel overconfident and distracted when a viable movement comes along and sweeps out all the old.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

Americans are not very happy with their 2-party system. Today the GOP holds a 4-point edge over Democrats going into the 2020 midterms, and will no doubt make substantial gains in congress this time around, but neither party can manage even a 50% approval rating.

Is it time for a 3rd party? An independent group that would take ideas from both conservative and liberal platforms. If so, what would it be like? Could a group like this finally be what the American voter is looking for?

Thoughts?

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No, it's past time. That idea is expired.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Rather than a 3rd party, I think we should do away with political parties altogether.

No more party primaries. If we need to have a primary to narrow down the number of candidates, it will just be an open election.

And let's face it, both parties are far more worried about defeating the other party than they are about serving their constituents.

Candidates can advertise that they are liberal, conservative or whatever. But no longer do they have to toe the party line.

Freedom of association. You'll have to Amend our constitution to accomplish that.

Political parties naturally grow in all democracies.

We may bitch about the 2 party system but the truth is it's what Americans want rather than the anarchy of coalition multi party government.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Rather than a 3rd party, I think we should do away with political parties altogether.

No more party primaries. If we need to have a primary to narrow down the number of candidates, it will just be an open election.

And let's face it, both parties are far more worried about defeating the other party than they are about serving their constituents.

Candidates can advertise that they are liberal, conservative or whatever. But no longer do they have to toe the party line.

If they don't toe the party line, eventually they are forced out of the parties. Joe Lieberman was a perfect example.

The party apparatus and fund raising mechanisms are essential to candidates and even more so for incumbents to insulate the from primary challengers.

 

[Leo123]

Americans are not very happy with their 2-party system. Today the GOP holds a 4-point edge over Democrats going into the 2020 midterms, and will no doubt make substantial gains in congress this time around, but neither party can manage even a 50% approval rating.

Is it time for a 3rd party? An independent group that would take ideas from both conservative and liberal platforms. If so, what would it be like? Could a group like this finally be what the American voter is looking for?

Thoughts?

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Sure, go for it. Good luck.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Interesting concept. More than just what the duopoly offers is necessary if the republic's health is to be maintained. No parties or many, it has to be better for the people than the present situation that functions only to maintain itself.

Take a look at California which shows us what that results in. You end up with one party rule by the extreme left.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

The money involved in campaigning is a major problem. Unlimited spending under the guise of "free speech" invites comparisons to yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. There are limits to any 'right' (except, perhaps, the right to be stupid).

That gets old and tired, "Yelling fire in a crowded theater" was rejected and was not part of the majority decision in that case.

Unless and until your speech causes someone else harm it's constitutionally protected.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

If Theodore Roosevelt could not pull it off so what makes you think anyone else could today?

All the stakeholders (Ds/Rs/MSM) would find common cause in a hurry and stamp a viable 3rd party into the ground.

Nah, the only way that would ever happen is after a .mil coup where the government is dissolved and the media put under .mil control for a long period of time then the next clown show would start.

At least right now Trump is probably the only person in the country that could possibly break the 20% barrier and if he did, he'd just hand the election to the democrats like Perot did.,

 

[blackhawk]

Probably the only person today who might be able to pull that off is Elon Musk and look at the attacks leveled against him for buying Twitter imagine if he tried to start a third party.