Those who support civil war

[Nosmo King]

I live in the upper Ohio River valley, in a county that voted greater than 65% for Trump. I ventured out today to do some shopping. I am aware that the majority of my fellow customers disagree with my personal politics.

And yet no one was discussing politics. We were all citizens trying our best to get through these difficult times.

My question to those of you advocating armed insurrection and political violence is why?

Why would you be willing to take part in criminal activity just to advance your political ideology?

And, more crucially, who are you going to shoot? Someone with a Biden bumper sticker on their car? Someone driving a Smart Car or at least not a pickup truck? Someone who, as an American citizen has the right, voices criticism of Trump or Trump policies?

Where are your battle lines drawn? Or are you just so upset that you would attack someone just to make a point?

You asked three questions and I will try to answer them.

1. Why are we “advocating armed insurrection and political violence” (your words, not truth)? Because we realize we are going to lose many of our rights, and we are willing to defend our rights and the rights of all Americans.

2. it’s only “criminal” in the eyes of those criminals who are either ok with taking peoples rights away, or actively trying to take them away.

3. Who are we going to shoot? Well, if it comes to that we will shoot those who try to take our rights away by force. We will use any non-violent means at our disposal first.

Which rights are you worried about losing?

Our 2nd Amendment and 1st Amendment rights for a start.

Has anyone ever taken your guns from you? Are you unable to have your voice expressed in public?

 

[JWBooth]

Bring on the boogaloo

 

[PredFan]

I live in the upper Ohio River valley, in a county that voted greater than 65% for Trump. I ventured out today to do some shopping. I am aware that the majority of my fellow customers disagree with my personal politics.

And yet no one was discussing politics. We were all citizens trying our best to get through these difficult times.

My question to those of you advocating armed insurrection and political violence is why?

Why would you be willing to take part in criminal activity just to advance your political ideology?

And, more crucially, who are you going to shoot? Someone with a Biden bumper sticker on their car? Someone driving a Smart Car or at least not a pickup truck? Someone who, as an American citizen has the right, voices criticism of Trump or Trump policies?

Where are your battle lines drawn? Or are you just so upset that you would attack someone just to make a point?

You asked three questions and I will try to answer them.

1. Why are we “advocating armed insurrection and political violence” (your words, not truth)? Because we realize we are going to lose many of our rights, and we are willing to defend our rights and the rights of all Americans.

2. it’s only “criminal” in the eyes of those criminals who are either ok with taking peoples rights away, or actively trying to take them away.

3. Who are we going to shoot? Well, if it comes to that we will shoot those who try to take our rights away by force. We will use any non-violent means at our disposal first.

Which rights are you worried about losing?

Our 2nd Amendment and 1st Amendment rights for a start.

Has anyone ever taken your guns from you? Are you unable to have your voice expressed in public?

Doyou think that because no one has yet come for my guns that that means they never will?

Don’t forget about the religion part of the first amendment t and yes, our rights to worship have been under assault lately.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I just want to point out for the record 99.9999999% of the political violence in this country stream from unhinged leftists

Could you provide a link?

Can you watch the news would be a better question.

Aren't we supposed to be skeptics about media?

And yet you aren't. You believed every lie they pushed.

It seems your reality and my reality are predicated on one thing. Fear.

I am not in fear of truth, and you are.

Not fear. You love to harp about fear yet you are the one cowering from covid. Not I.

I merely state an opinion based on decades of reading history.

Well go on denying the pandemic. It cares not about your ignorance. It only wants to infect you.

I suppose you thought seat belts infringed on your freedom too.

If this Scamdemic is so horrible how come the death rate in America is unchanged from previous years?

 

[Nosmo King]

A lot of people understand what they face now that we will be in control of the government again soon. They're going to lose their means to resist, they're going to be forced to do a lot of things they don't like. Even worse than the masks and lock downs. They're going to have to be relocated, they're going to have to give up their cars and they're going to have to face the facts that they can not use up tons of fossil fuels heating and cooling the air in their residences. They're not going to be able to eat as much as they want, and throw away more food than the rest of the world can produce. They're not going to be able to buy massive tons of hideous clothing they throw away after wearing a few times. They're not going to be able to incite each other to resist.

American consume too much, waste too much, and it costs the world's poor too much in labor and suffering to keep them in comfort. The rest of the world's poor need to be uplifted a lot before things stabilize, and it has to be done while seriously reducing the massive negative impact humans have on the climate. America is in for a serious culture shock.

When has any of that ever happened?

Does fear and conspiracy drive your thought process, or can you provide evidence of your claims?

We could ask you the same question. This whole question of yours is based on fear and conspiracy.

Where are threats of civil war coming from?

 

[Nosmo King]

I just want to point out for the record 99.9999999% of the political violence in this country stream from unhinged leftists

Could you provide a link?

Can you watch the news would be a better question.

Aren't we supposed to be skeptics about media?

And yet you aren't. You believed every lie they pushed.

It seems your reality and my reality are predicated on one thing. Fear.

I am not in fear of truth, and you are.

Not fear. You love to harp about fear yet you are the one cowering from covid. Not I.

I merely state an opinion based on decades of reading history.

Well go on denying the pandemic. It cares not about your ignorance. It only wants to infect you.

I suppose you thought seat belts infringed on your freedom too.

If this Scamdemic is so horrible how come the death rate in America is unchanged from previous years?

Except for the 269,000 additional deaths.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I just want to point out for the record 99.9999999% of the political violence in this country stream from unhinged leftists

Could you provide a link?

Can you watch the news would be a better question.

Aren't we supposed to be skeptics about media?

And yet you aren't. You believed every lie they pushed.

It seems your reality and my reality are predicated on one thing. Fear.

I am not in fear of truth, and you are.

Not fear. You love to harp about fear yet you are the one cowering from covid. Not I.

I merely state an opinion based on decades of reading history.

Well go on denying the pandemic. It cares not about your ignorance. It only wants to infect you.

I suppose you thought seat belts infringed on your freedom too.

If this Scamdemic is so horrible how come the death rate in America is unchanged from previous years?

Except for the 269,000 additional deaths.

Well thats strange.
Jon Hopkins did a study and found 2020 deaths were almost the same as 2019.
And now that info has disappeared from the internet.

 

[Nosmo King]

I just want to point out for the record 99.9999999% of the political violence in this country stream from unhinged leftists

Could you provide a link?

Can you watch the news would be a better question.

Aren't we supposed to be skeptics about media?

And yet you aren't. You believed every lie they pushed.

It seems your reality and my reality are predicated on one thing. Fear.

I am not in fear of truth, and you are.

Not fear. You love to harp about fear yet you are the one cowering from covid. Not I.

I merely state an opinion based on decades of reading history.

Well go on denying the pandemic. It cares not about your ignorance. It only wants to infect you.

I suppose you thought seat belts infringed on your freedom too.

If this Scamdemic is so horrible how come the death rate in America is unchanged from previous years?

Except for the 269,000 additional deaths.

Well thats strange.
Jon Hopkins did a study and found 2020 deaths were almost the same as 2019.
And now that info has disappeared from the internet.

Here's the Johns Hopkins website:Home - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I just want to point out for the record 99.9999999% of the political violence in this country stream from unhinged leftists

Could you provide a link?

Can you watch the news would be a better question.

Aren't we supposed to be skeptics about media?

And yet you aren't. You believed every lie they pushed.

It seems your reality and my reality are predicated on one thing. Fear.

I am not in fear of truth, and you are.

Not fear. You love to harp about fear yet you are the one cowering from covid. Not I.

I merely state an opinion based on decades of reading history.

Well go on denying the pandemic. It cares not about your ignorance. It only wants to infect you.

I suppose you thought seat belts infringed on your freedom too.

If this Scamdemic is so horrible how come the death rate in America is unchanged from previous years?

Except for the 269,000 additional deaths.

Well thats strange.
Jon Hopkins did a study and found 2020 deaths were almost the same as 2019.
And now that info has disappeared from the internet.

Here's the Johns Hopkins website:Home - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

It said in the article that it was taken down from their site.

 

[Papageorgio]

A lot of people understand what they face now that we will be in control of the government again soon. They're going to lose their means to resist, they're going to be forced to do a lot of things they don't like. Even worse than the masks and lock downs. They're going to have to be relocated, they're going to have to give up their cars and they're going to have to face the facts that they can not use up tons of fossil fuels heating and cooling the air in their residences. They're not going to be able to eat as much as they want, and throw away more food than the rest of the world can produce. They're not going to be able to buy massive tons of hideous clothing they throw away after wearing a few times. They're not going to be able to incite each other to resist.

American consume too much, waste too much, and it costs the world's poor too much in labor and suffering to keep them in comfort. The rest of the world's poor need to be uplifted a lot before things stabilize, and it has to be done while seriously reducing the massive negative impact humans have on the climate. America is in for a serious culture shock.

When has any of that ever happened?

Does fear and conspiracy drive your thought process, or can you provide evidence of your claims?

We could ask you the same question. This whole question of yours is based on fear and conspiracy.

Where are threats of civil war coming from?

By a very few, we have had that element for decades and decades. Your whole thread is based on fear and no facts.

 

[Quasar44]

A lot of people understand what they face now that we will be in control of the government again soon. They're going to lose their means to resist, they're going to be forced to do a lot of things they don't like. Even worse than the masks and lock downs. They're going to have to be relocated, they're going to have to give up their cars and they're going to have to face the facts that they can not use up tons of fossil fuels heating and cooling the air in their residences. They're not going to be able to eat as much as they want, and throw away more food than the rest of the world can produce. They're not going to be able to buy massive tons of hideous clothing they throw away after wearing a few times. They're not going to be able to incite each other to resist.

American consume too much, waste too much, and it costs the world's poor too much in labor and suffering to keep them in comfort. The rest of the world's poor need to be uplifted a lot before things stabilize, and it has to be done while seriously reducing the massive negative impact humans have on the climate. America is in for a serious culture shock.

Oh STFU sock

I don’t support any wars !!
I do support breaking the USA up into many wonderful new nations !!
Heck even all blacks can have their own

 

[Quasar44]

Civil war is impossible unless the generals break into different sides
We don’t need tens of millions to die
I want a peaceful break up

 

[Nosmo King]

I just want to point out for the record 99.9999999% of the political violence in this country stream from unhinged leftists

Could you provide a link?

Can you watch the news would be a better question.

Aren't we supposed to be skeptics about media?

And yet you aren't. You believed every lie they pushed.

It seems your reality and my reality are predicated on one thing. Fear.

I am not in fear of truth, and you are.

Not fear. You love to harp about fear yet you are the one cowering from covid. Not I.

I merely state an opinion based on decades of reading history.

Well go on denying the pandemic. It cares not about your ignorance. It only wants to infect you.

I suppose you thought seat belts infringed on your freedom too.

If this Scamdemic is so horrible how come the death rate in America is unchanged from previous years?

Except for the 269,000 additional deaths.

Well thats strange.
Jon Hopkins did a study and found 2020 deaths were almost the same as 2019.
And now that info has disappeared from the internet.

Here's the Johns Hopkins website:Home - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

It said in the article that it was taken down from their site.

Because it was not real?

 

[Nosmo King]

A lot of people understand what they face now that we will be in control of the government again soon. They're going to lose their means to resist, they're going to be forced to do a lot of things they don't like. Even worse than the masks and lock downs. They're going to have to be relocated, they're going to have to give up their cars and they're going to have to face the facts that they can not use up tons of fossil fuels heating and cooling the air in their residences. They're not going to be able to eat as much as they want, and throw away more food than the rest of the world can produce. They're not going to be able to buy massive tons of hideous clothing they throw away after wearing a few times. They're not going to be able to incite each other to resist.

American consume too much, waste too much, and it costs the world's poor too much in labor and suffering to keep them in comfort. The rest of the world's poor need to be uplifted a lot before things stabilize, and it has to be done while seriously reducing the massive negative impact humans have on the climate. America is in for a serious culture shock.

When has any of that ever happened?

Does fear and conspiracy drive your thought process, or can you provide evidence of your claims?

We could ask you the same question. This whole question of yours is based on fear and conspiracy.

Where are threats of civil war coming from?

By a very few, we have had that element for decades and decades. Your whole thread is based on fear and no facts.

Are there many threads here at USMB that advocate civil war?

 

[Papageorgio]

I just want to point out for the record 99.9999999% of the political violence in this country stream from unhinged leftists

Could you provide a link?

Can you watch the news would be a better question.

Aren't we supposed to be skeptics about media?

And yet you aren't. You believed every lie they pushed.

It seems your reality and my reality are predicated on one thing. Fear.

I am not in fear of truth, and you are.

Not fear. You love to harp about fear yet you are the one cowering from covid. Not I.

I merely state an opinion based on decades of reading history.

Well go on denying the pandemic. It cares not about your ignorance. It only wants to infect you.

I suppose you thought seat belts infringed on your freedom too.

If this Scamdemic is so horrible how come the death rate in America is unchanged from previous years?

Except for the 269,000 additional deaths.

The deaths went down

A lot of people understand what they face now that we will be in control of the government again soon. They're going to lose their means to resist, they're going to be forced to do a lot of things they don't like. Even worse than the masks and lock downs. They're going to have to be relocated, they're going to have to give up their cars and they're going to have to face the facts that they can not use up tons of fossil fuels heating and cooling the air in their residences. They're not going to be able to eat as much as they want, and throw away more food than the rest of the world can produce. They're not going to be able to buy massive tons of hideous clothing they throw away after wearing a few times. They're not going to be able to incite each other to resist.

American consume too much, waste too much, and it costs the world's poor too much in labor and suffering to keep them in comfort. The rest of the world's poor need to be uplifted a lot before things stabilize, and it has to be done while seriously reducing the massive negative impact humans have on the climate. America is in for a serious culture shock.

When has any of that ever happened?

Does fear and conspiracy drive your thought process, or can you provide evidence of your claims?

We could ask you the same question. This whole question of yours is based on fear and conspiracy.

Where are threats of civil war coming from?

By a very few, we have had that element for decades and decades. Your whole thread is based on fear and no facts.

Are there many threads here at USMB that advocate civil war?

So you believe a message board with 100 active posters and with a minority of then talking civil war makes a case? Sorry, I’m not arguing stupid. There are several on this board that supported the BLM riots, I know that is the minority, I’m not a reactionary and not a partisan hack trying to make the other side look evil or violent.

 

[Nosmo King]

I just want to point out for the record 99.9999999% of the political violence in this country stream from unhinged leftists

Could you provide a link?

Can you watch the news would be a better question.

Aren't we supposed to be skeptics about media?

And yet you aren't. You believed every lie they pushed.

It seems your reality and my reality are predicated on one thing. Fear.

I am not in fear of truth, and you are.

Not fear. You love to harp about fear yet you are the one cowering from covid. Not I.

I merely state an opinion based on decades of reading history.

Well go on denying the pandemic. It cares not about your ignorance. It only wants to infect you.

I suppose you thought seat belts infringed on your freedom too.

If this Scamdemic is so horrible how come the death rate in America is unchanged from previous years?

Except for the 269,000 additional deaths.

The deaths went down

A lot of people understand what they face now that we will be in control of the government again soon. They're going to lose their means to resist, they're going to be forced to do a lot of things they don't like. Even worse than the masks and lock downs. They're going to have to be relocated, they're going to have to give up their cars and they're going to have to face the facts that they can not use up tons of fossil fuels heating and cooling the air in their residences. They're not going to be able to eat as much as they want, and throw away more food than the rest of the world can produce. They're not going to be able to buy massive tons of hideous clothing they throw away after wearing a few times. They're not going to be able to incite each other to resist.

American consume too much, waste too much, and it costs the world's poor too much in labor and suffering to keep them in comfort. The rest of the world's poor need to be uplifted a lot before things stabilize, and it has to be done while seriously reducing the massive negative impact humans have on the climate. America is in for a serious culture shock.

When has any of that ever happened?

Does fear and conspiracy drive your thought process, or can you provide evidence of your claims?

We could ask you the same question. This whole question of yours is based on fear and conspiracy.

Where are threats of civil war coming from?

By a very few, we have had that element for decades and decades. Your whole thread is based on fear and no facts.

Are there many threads here at USMB that advocate civil war?

So you believe a message board with 100 active posters and with a minority of then talking civil war makes a case? Sorry, I’m not arguing stupid. There are several on this board that supported the BLM riots, I know that is the minority, I’m not a reactionary and not a partisan hack trying to make the other side look evil or violent.

I titled this thread to those who advocate civil war. I'm asking those specifically why they think as they do.

 

[Papageorgio]

I just want to point out for the record 99.9999999% of the political violence in this country stream from unhinged leftists

Could you provide a link?

Can you watch the news would be a better question.

Aren't we supposed to be skeptics about media?

And yet you aren't. You believed every lie they pushed.

It seems your reality and my reality are predicated on one thing. Fear.

I am not in fear of truth, and you are.

Not fear. You love to harp about fear yet you are the one cowering from covid. Not I.

I merely state an opinion based on decades of reading history.

Well go on denying the pandemic. It cares not about your ignorance. It only wants to infect you.

I suppose you thought seat belts infringed on your freedom too.

If this Scamdemic is so horrible how come the death rate in America is unchanged from previous years?

Except for the 269,000 additional deaths.

The deaths went down

A lot of people understand what they face now that we will be in control of the government again soon. They're going to lose their means to resist, they're going to be forced to do a lot of things they don't like. Even worse than the masks and lock downs. They're going to have to be relocated, they're going to have to give up their cars and they're going to have to face the facts that they can not use up tons of fossil fuels heating and cooling the air in their residences. They're not going to be able to eat as much as they want, and throw away more food than the rest of the world can produce. They're not going to be able to buy massive tons of hideous clothing they throw away after wearing a few times. They're not going to be able to incite each other to resist.

American consume too much, waste too much, and it costs the world's poor too much in labor and suffering to keep them in comfort. The rest of the world's poor need to be uplifted a lot before things stabilize, and it has to be done while seriously reducing the massive negative impact humans have on the climate. America is in for a serious culture shock.

When has any of that ever happened?

Does fear and conspiracy drive your thought process, or can you provide evidence of your claims?

We could ask you the same question. This whole question of yours is based on fear and conspiracy.

Where are threats of civil war coming from?

By a very few, we have had that element for decades and decades. Your whole thread is based on fear and no facts.

Are there many threads here at USMB that advocate civil war?

So you believe a message board with 100 active posters and with a minority of then talking civil war makes a case? Sorry, I’m not arguing stupid. There are several on this board that supported the BLM riots, I know that is the minority, I’m not a reactionary and not a partisan hack trying to make the other side look evil or violent.

I titled this thread to those who advocate civil war. I'm asking those specifically why they think as they do.

Then you went off tangent with another poster asking him about his fears and his conspiracy and called you out for being the exact same way. You shouldn’t have brought it up if you didn’t want to go there cupcake.

 

[Nosmo King]

I just want to point out for the record 99.9999999% of the political violence in this country stream from unhinged leftists

Could you provide a link?

Can you watch the news would be a better question.

Aren't we supposed to be skeptics about media?

And yet you aren't. You believed every lie they pushed.

It seems your reality and my reality are predicated on one thing. Fear.

I am not in fear of truth, and you are.

Not fear. You love to harp about fear yet you are the one cowering from covid. Not I.

I merely state an opinion based on decades of reading history.

Well go on denying the pandemic. It cares not about your ignorance. It only wants to infect you.

I suppose you thought seat belts infringed on your freedom too.

If this Scamdemic is so horrible how come the death rate in America is unchanged from previous years?

Except for the 269,000 additional deaths.

The deaths went down

A lot of people understand what they face now that we will be in control of the government again soon. They're going to lose their means to resist, they're going to be forced to do a lot of things they don't like. Even worse than the masks and lock downs. They're going to have to be relocated, they're going to have to give up their cars and they're going to have to face the facts that they can not use up tons of fossil fuels heating and cooling the air in their residences. They're not going to be able to eat as much as they want, and throw away more food than the rest of the world can produce. They're not going to be able to buy massive tons of hideous clothing they throw away after wearing a few times. They're not going to be able to incite each other to resist.

American consume too much, waste too much, and it costs the world's poor too much in labor and suffering to keep them in comfort. The rest of the world's poor need to be uplifted a lot before things stabilize, and it has to be done while seriously reducing the massive negative impact humans have on the climate. America is in for a serious culture shock.

When has any of that ever happened?

Does fear and conspiracy drive your thought process, or can you provide evidence of your claims?

We could ask you the same question. This whole question of yours is based on fear and conspiracy.

Where are threats of civil war coming from?

By a very few, we have had that element for decades and decades. Your whole thread is based on fear and no facts.

Are there many threads here at USMB that advocate civil war?

So you believe a message board with 100 active posters and with a minority of then talking civil war makes a case? Sorry, I’m not arguing stupid. There are several on this board that supported the BLM riots, I know that is the minority, I’m not a reactionary and not a partisan hack trying to make the other side look evil or violent.

I titled this thread to those who advocate civil war. I'm asking those specifically why they think as they do.

Then you went off tangent with another poster asking him about his fears and his conspiracy and called you out for being the exact same way. You shouldn’t have brought it up if you didn’t want to go there cupcake.

I am curious if fear and suspicion ar the motivation factors in his thinking.

 

[Dick Foster]

I live in the upper Ohio River valley, in a county that voted greater than 65% for Trump. I ventured out today to do some shopping. I am aware that the majority of my fellow customers disagree with my personal politics.

And yet no one was discussing politics. We were all citizens trying our best to get through these difficult times.

My question to those of you advocating armed insurrection and political violence is why?

Why would you be willing to take part in criminal activity just to advance your political ideology?

And, more crucially, who are you going to shoot? Someone with a Biden bumper sticker on their car? Someone driving a Smart Car or at least not a pickup truck? Someone who, as an American citizen has the right, voices criticism of Trump or Trump policies?

Where are your battle lines drawn? Or are you just so upset that you would attack someone just to make a point?

Awww...how touching.
Tell you what, tell all your fucked in the head faggot leftist buddies to leave the heart and soul of America alone and nobody dies....fair enough?

What is the "heart and soul" of America?

Not you or any other democratic asshole. That much is clear.

 

[Nosmo King]

I live in the upper Ohio River valley, in a county that voted greater than 65% for Trump. I ventured out today to do some shopping. I am aware that the majority of my fellow customers disagree with my personal politics.

And yet no one was discussing politics. We were all citizens trying our best to get through these difficult times.

My question to those of you advocating armed insurrection and political violence is why?

Why would you be willing to take part in criminal activity just to advance your political ideology?

And, more crucially, who are you going to shoot? Someone with a Biden bumper sticker on their car? Someone driving a Smart Car or at least not a pickup truck? Someone who, as an American citizen has the right, voices criticism of Trump or Trump policies?

Where are your battle lines drawn? Or are you just so upset that you would attack someone just to make a point?

Awww...how touching.
Tell you what, tell all your fucked in the head faggot leftist buddies to leave the heart and soul of America alone and nobody dies....fair enough?

What is the "heart and soul" of America?

Not you or any other democratic asshole. That much is clear.

That is not an answer.