Missouri_Mike
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What goals have been missed? Do you know what they are? If not then **** off with your bullshit. The only clown here is you.
This is not what measured, mature leadership looks like.
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Missouri_Mike
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How did an entire continent that’s lived under our protection become this arrogant?
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Trump has started something he can’t fix.
If he had bothered to ask, our allies would have told him this is what will happen
Our "allies" are weak nancy boys who have little importance anymore. They've shrugged their shoulders to danger and waved in millions of people who hate them and their cultures. They are failures.
Trump doesn't like failure.
Nor do I.
So, TDS it is. No surprise there. You couldn't even go seven hours without whining about Trump. How pathetic.Not if they're paying attention.
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Missouri_Mike
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You notice the Arab world is helping fix this problem while the eurotrash is crying about it?
Trump is taking care of a problem. Europe now needs to fix their oil supply problem. Or go even deeper into the renewable failure. Either way who ******* cares.
Mac1958
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I would add one critical element: The alternate universe. First Rush, then Fox, then all the copycats, then the internet. These people have rage and misinformation pumped into them 24/7/365. Pretty much every day, we discuss things here that they don't even know about. And pretty much every day, they toss out "information" that is demonstrably untrue. But they believe it to their bones.
And it's all grievance-based. I think that's how they reach this degree of pure rage, how they literally enjoy cruelty, and how they can cheer destruction.
Mac1958
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That's the basis of all of this, it's the attraction. This is a reflection of this country, our society, our culture. We love showbiz, anti-heroes, conflict, style over substance. Spectacle. Keep it simple, big and loud.
Pro wrestling. Reality teevee. Trump is the perfect fit.
j-mac
Nuthin' but the truth
They are infiltrated by Islam
j-mac
Nuthin' but the truth
Maybe you didn’t read…we don’t need them…
The ungodly all over the world cannot be depended on to do what is right because they are under the influence of their father the devil.Trump lashes out at UK and France, telling allies ‘the U.S.A. won’t be there to help you anymore’
President Donald Trump has warned the U.K. and France that the “U.S.A. won’t be there to help you anymore,” as he vented his frustration over the close allies’ refusal to join military action against Iran.
Posting on Truth Social, Trump said “the Country of France wouldn’t let planes headed to Israel, loaded up with military supplies, fly over French territory.”
“France has been VERY UNHELPFUL with respect to the “Butcher of Iran,” who has been successfully eliminated! The U.S.A. will REMEMBER!!!,” he said in a post Tuesday.
In another post, the president singled out the U.K. for criticism.
“All of those countries that can’t get jet fuel because of the Strait of Hormuz, like the United Kingdom, which refused to get involved in the decapitation of Iran, I have a suggestion for you: Number 1, buy from the U.S., we have plenty, and Number 2, build up some delayed courage, go to the Strait, and just TAKE IT,” he commented.
Trump lashes out at UK and France, telling allies 'the U.S.A. won't be there to help you anymore'
Trump re-upped his disdain for European allies that have refused to take part in the U.S. and Israel's military operation against Iran.www.cnbc.com
Rebukes of allies, when they are called for, are done through private communications or through correspondences with diplomats after careful consideration. Those were the old days. Now they are done by way of unhinged rants on social media for all the world to see. Including our enemies.
I think the old way is better.
Putin and American democrats have long been on far friendlier terms than Putin and Trump ever were.
j-mac
Nuthin' but the truth
Nah, people just see through you…
j-mac
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And that should have happened in what berg? 24 hrs? GTFOH.
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The war has gone on for a month.
Our Troops Deserve More Than This
Because their lives are on the line, we owe it to these committed American service members and their families to be truthful about the risks involved and why we are at war. There was a case to be made that Iran had a history of threatening the stability of the United States, Israel and other nations in the Middle East. Its leaders’ support for terrorism, arming dangerous proxy forces, developing large numbers of missiles that could strike regional targets and efforts to develop nuclear capability represented a genuine threat to peace and stability in the region.But it is also true that the 12-day war waged by Israel and the United States against Iran in June weakened Tehran and its proxies, damaged missile and airstrike capabilities and set back the project to develop a nuclear bomb. By July, Iran was no longer an imminent threat — a conclusion supported by our intelligence agencies.
Nevertheless, without informing the American people, Congress or our allies, President Trump decided to join Israel in a military campaign to kill Iran’s leadership and, he hoped, spark a popular uprising to bring down the Islamic republic once and for all. That did not happen. It was a terrible miscalculation. Since then, the president has offered conflicting objectives for why we went to war.
As former secretaries of defense and former members of Congress, we can personally attest to the problems that arise when our country engages in conflicts that drift without clear objectives and end points. They often become tragic, unwinnable wars that history does not remember kindly.
So when our president oscillates between stating that “the war is very complete, pretty much” and “we’re not ready to leave yet” within the space of roughly a week, it seems that we are repeating that history. It shows both our allies and our adversaries that impulsive and unilateral decisions are driving our foreign policy objectives. It also shows how the president’s decision to bypass Congress and the American people and defy democratic norms has profound consequences on our military, U.S. citizens and people around the world. The president’s war in Iran has created vast amounts of volatility and uncertainty — thousands of people have been killed and millions displaced — and has further undermined the credibility of the United States to maintain the rules-based international order that we helped establish after World War II.
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Then why is Trump begging for help?
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