This chart reveals the inhumanity of US drug prices compared to other countries

[g5000]

Here is the 2014 annual report for a company which claims among the highest R&D expenses in the industry: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External.File?item=UGFyZW50SUQ9MjY3MDc5fENoaWxkSUQ9LTF8VHlwZT0z&t=1

 

[Maryland Patriot]

http://www.hazzardandhore.com/docs/papers/p7.pdf

That paper shows that regulations favor the drug companies in the US more than in Canada.

In the US, drug company patents last longer. Not only that, in Canada generic drugs are allowed even a patent is in effect. Not so in the US, which has exclusivity protections for drug companies.

So the claim drug prices are higher in the US because of regulations which hamper the drug companies is as bogus as it gets.

In your warped mind, you dont see a problem here?

You claimed government regulations hampered US drug companies when in fact they give US companies a huge advantage.

how does that one thing give U.S companies a huge advantage. other than allowing them to try to recover the cost of their research and development.
why should some crap company be allowed to reverse engineer a medication the day it comes out and be able to sell it for 1/10th the amount because they did not have to spend on bringing it to market in the first place.
are you honestly that big of an idiot or do you just post stupid shit to get a reaction

How big a rube do you have to be to believe the price gouging is to recover R&D expenses?

I'm sure that is a part of it, but I am not so stupid as to believe that is the whole. It doesn't take 20 years to recoup R&D. Nowhere near that long.

recovering costs is price gouging?
you really don't have any clue on these things do you.
all you want is free, you think someone owes you something simply because your parents had unprotected sex.

 

[g5000]

http://www.hazzardandhore.com/docs/papers/p7.pdf

That paper shows that regulations favor the drug companies in the US more than in Canada.

In the US, drug company patents last longer. Not only that, in Canada generic drugs are allowed even a patent is in effect. Not so in the US, which has exclusivity protections for drug companies.

So the claim drug prices are higher in the US because of regulations which hamper the drug companies is as bogus as it gets.

In your warped mind, you dont see a problem here?

You claimed government regulations hampered US drug companies when in fact they give US companies a huge advantage.

how does that one thing give U.S companies a huge advantage. other than allowing them to try to recover the cost of their research and development.
why should some crap company be allowed to reverse engineer a medication the day it comes out and be able to sell it for 1/10th the amount because they did not have to spend on bringing it to market in the first place.
are you honestly that big of an idiot or do you just post stupid shit to get a reaction

How big a rube do you have to be to believe the price gouging is to recover R&D expenses?

I'm sure that is a part of it, but I am not so stupid as to believe that is the whole. It doesn't take 20 years to recoup R&D. Nowhere near that long.

recovering costs is price gouging?

I say again, how big a rube do you have to be to believe it is all about recovering R&D?

See post 81.

$2.3 billion in profits for one year for a company claiming among the largest R&D expenses in the industry.

 

[g5000]

Novartis claims the largest R&D expenses of all. Here is their 2014 annual report: https://www.novartis.com/sites/www....rs/reports/novartis-annual-report-2014-en.pdf

$14 billion in profit.

 

[g5000]

Novartis Third-Quarter Profit Climbs on New Products

Already making profits off new products. Like I said, it doesn't take 20 years to recoup R&D.

$3.35 billion profit for one quarter. Donald Trump is a rank amateur next to these guys. He couldn't even pay their lunch tab.


As in investor, I love profits. But let's not kid ourselves that Big Pharma is struggling to keep its head above water over R&D expenses, mm-kay?

They use the legislative protections they bought from the American Politboro to their fullest advantage.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

In your warped mind, you dont see a problem here?

You claimed government regulations hampered US drug companies when in fact they give US companies a huge advantage.

how does that one thing give U.S companies a huge advantage. other than allowing them to try to recover the cost of their research and development.
why should some crap company be allowed to reverse engineer a medication the day it comes out and be able to sell it for 1/10th the amount because they did not have to spend on bringing it to market in the first place.
are you honestly that big of an idiot or do you just post stupid shit to get a reaction

How big a rube do you have to be to believe the price gouging is to recover R&D expenses?

I'm sure that is a part of it, but I am not so stupid as to believe that is the whole. It doesn't take 20 years to recoup R&D. Nowhere near that long.

recovering costs is price gouging?

I say again, how big a rube do you have to be to believe it is all about recovering R&D?

See post 81.

$2.3 billion in profits for one year for a company claiming among the largest R&D expenses in the industry.

how much of that 2.3 billion is required for them to continue research and development in the year following?

 

[g5000]

You claimed government regulations hampered US drug companies when in fact they give US companies a huge advantage.

how does that one thing give U.S companies a huge advantage. other than allowing them to try to recover the cost of their research and development.
why should some crap company be allowed to reverse engineer a medication the day it comes out and be able to sell it for 1/10th the amount because they did not have to spend on bringing it to market in the first place.
are you honestly that big of an idiot or do you just post stupid shit to get a reaction

How big a rube do you have to be to believe the price gouging is to recover R&D expenses?

I'm sure that is a part of it, but I am not so stupid as to believe that is the whole. It doesn't take 20 years to recoup R&D. Nowhere near that long.

recovering costs is price gouging?

I say again, how big a rube do you have to be to believe it is all about recovering R&D?

See post 81.

$2.3 billion in profits for one year for a company claiming among the largest R&D expenses in the industry.

how much of that 2.3 billion is required for them to continue research and development in the year following?

Oh my god, you are funny!

 

[Maryland Patriot]

how does that one thing give U.S companies a huge advantage. other than allowing them to try to recover the cost of their research and development.
why should some crap company be allowed to reverse engineer a medication the day it comes out and be able to sell it for 1/10th the amount because they did not have to spend on bringing it to market in the first place.
are you honestly that big of an idiot or do you just post stupid shit to get a reaction

How big a rube do you have to be to believe the price gouging is to recover R&D expenses?

I'm sure that is a part of it, but I am not so stupid as to believe that is the whole. It doesn't take 20 years to recoup R&D. Nowhere near that long.

recovering costs is price gouging?

I say again, how big a rube do you have to be to believe it is all about recovering R&D?

See post 81.

$2.3 billion in profits for one year for a company claiming among the largest R&D expenses in the industry.

how much of that 2.3 billion is required for them to continue research and development in the year following?

Oh my god, you are funny!

always good to know I can make an idiot laugh. Im sure it brightens their day.
If I were you I would show them who is boss and just refuse to buy their products until they make 0 profit. Better yet, since my health is a constitutional right according to some uneducated individuals, I think they should not only give me the drug for free, but they should also pay me to take it to cure whatever it is I might have that needs curing

 

[ClosedCaption]

http://www.hazzardandhore.com/docs/papers/p7.pdf

That paper shows that regulations favor the drug companies in the US more than in Canada.

In the US, drug company patents last longer. Not only that, in Canada generic drugs are allowed even a patent is in effect. Not so in the US, which has exclusivity protections for drug companies.

So the claim drug prices are higher in the US because of regulations which hamper the drug companies is as bogus as it gets.

In your warped mind, you dont see a problem here?

You claimed government regulations hampered US drug companies when in fact they give US companies a huge advantage.

how does that one thing give U.S companies a huge advantage. other than allowing them to try to recover the cost of their research and development.
why should some crap company be allowed to reverse engineer a medication the day it comes out and be able to sell it for 1/10th the amount because they did not have to spend on bringing it to market in the first place.
are you honestly that big of an idiot or do you just post stupid shit to get a reaction

How big a rube do you have to be to believe the price gouging is to recover R&D expenses?

I'm sure that is a part of it, but I am not so stupid as to believe that is the whole. It doesn't take 20 years to recoup R&D. Nowhere near that long.

This is how its been the whole thread. They say that the prices are high because it costs a lot of money to develop it. I've asked them time after time what that has to do with the difference in pricing and that leads them to call names to cover the fact that they dont know shit

 

[Lou Skunt]

More socialist nonsense. Why do you leftist believe you are entitled to have everything given to you?

You do make a valid point. Too many truly believe they deserve or are entitled to everything. It's a huge problem these days.

So the topic is about higher drug prices and to you two fools that means that someone wants something for free?

Every topic is "The left believes..." with some crazy made up shit.

Do that Stephanie

How are you not wanting something for free?

Simple! Because I didnt mention getting anything for any particular price dumb ******

You want people to be able to get drugs at lower prices. You want the product discounted. The margin between the current price and the discounted price is what you are asking for as a handout, or a "freebie".

By the way, your command of the English language sucks.

 

[Lou Skunt]

http://www.hazzardandhore.com/docs/papers/p7.pdf

That paper shows that regulations favor the drug companies in the US more than in Canada.

In the US, drug company patents last longer. Not only that, in Canada generic drugs are allowed even a patent is in effect. Not so in the US, which has exclusivity protections for drug companies.

So the claim drug prices are higher in the US because of regulations which hamper the drug companies is as bogus as it gets.

In your warped mind, you dont see a problem here?

You claimed government regulations hampered US drug companies when in fact they give US companies a huge advantage.

how does that one thing give U.S companies a huge advantage. other than allowing them to try to recover the cost of their research and development.
why should some crap company be allowed to reverse engineer a medication the day it comes out and be able to sell it for 1/10th the amount because they did not have to spend on bringing it to market in the first place.
are you honestly that big of an idiot or do you just post stupid shit to get a reaction

How big a rube do you have to be to believe the price gouging is to recover R&D expenses?

I'm sure that is a part of it, but I am not so stupid as to believe that is the whole. It doesn't take 20 years to recoup R&D. Nowhere near that long.

This is how its been the whole thread. They say that the prices are high because it costs a lot of money to develop it. I've asked them time after time what that has to do with the difference in pricing and that leads them to call names to cover the fact that they dont know shit

Who gives a **** what their profits margins are? It really is none of your business, is it?

 

[ClosedCaption]

More socialist nonsense. Why do you leftist believe you are entitled to have everything given to you?

You do make a valid point. Too many truly believe they deserve or are entitled to everything. It's a huge problem these days.

So the topic is about higher drug prices and to you two fools that means that someone wants something for free?

Every topic is "The left believes..." with some crazy made up shit.

Do that Stephanie

How are you not wanting something for free?

Simple! Because I didnt mention getting anything for any particular price dumb ******

You want people to be able to get drugs at lower prices. You want the product discounted. The margin between the current price and the discounted price is what you are asking for as a handout, or a "freebie".

By the way, your command of the English language sucks.

Lower prices? What do you mean? You said I wanted shit for free now you're going to go against yourself like that?

Apologize to yourself!

I simply asked why is it discounted other places. You, not being able to provide an answer, started talking about what I want instead of the story itself. No better way to troll I guess.

So apologize to yourself for being a dumbass and tell yourself that free doesnt mean discounted.

 

[ClosedCaption]

In your warped mind, you dont see a problem here?

You claimed government regulations hampered US drug companies when in fact they give US companies a huge advantage.

how does that one thing give U.S companies a huge advantage. other than allowing them to try to recover the cost of their research and development.
why should some crap company be allowed to reverse engineer a medication the day it comes out and be able to sell it for 1/10th the amount because they did not have to spend on bringing it to market in the first place.
are you honestly that big of an idiot or do you just post stupid shit to get a reaction

How big a rube do you have to be to believe the price gouging is to recover R&D expenses?

I'm sure that is a part of it, but I am not so stupid as to believe that is the whole. It doesn't take 20 years to recoup R&D. Nowhere near that long.

This is how its been the whole thread. They say that the prices are high because it costs a lot of money to develop it. I've asked them time after time what that has to do with the difference in pricing and that leads them to call names to cover the fact that they dont know shit

Who gives a **** what their profits margins are? It really is none of your business, is it?

If you dont care the door is that way <------------

Or you want to stick around and stroke my dick sommore?

 

[Lou Skunt]

how does that one thing give U.S companies a huge advantage. other than allowing them to try to recover the cost of their research and development.
why should some crap company be allowed to reverse engineer a medication the day it comes out and be able to sell it for 1/10th the amount because they did not have to spend on bringing it to market in the first place.
are you honestly that big of an idiot or do you just post stupid shit to get a reaction

How big a rube do you have to be to believe the price gouging is to recover R&D expenses?

I'm sure that is a part of it, but I am not so stupid as to believe that is the whole. It doesn't take 20 years to recoup R&D. Nowhere near that long.

recovering costs is price gouging?

I say again, how big a rube do you have to be to believe it is all about recovering R&D?

See post 81.

$2.3 billion in profits for one year for a company claiming among the largest R&D expenses in the industry.

how much of that 2.3 billion is required for them to continue research and development in the year following?

Oh my god, you are funny!

I personally hope that the corporate officers, directors, and equity holders are lining their pockets with cash. That is the way a market economy is supposed to work, you morons!

 

[Lou Skunt]

Novartis Third-Quarter Profit Climbs on New Products

Already making profits off new products. Like I said, it doesn't take 20 years to recoup R&D.

$3.35 billion profit for one quarter. Donald Trump is a rank amateur next to these guys. He couldn't even pay their lunch tab.


As in investor, I love profits. But let's not kid ourselves that Big Pharma is struggling to keep its head above water over R&D expenses, mm-kay?

They use the legislative protections they bought from the American Politboro to their fullest advantage.

Who gives a shit what they make in profit? I hope they double their ******* profits and are given a full exemption from the application of the federal tax code. We should ALL be FREE from burdensome taxes and regulations so we can maximize our ability to make money. If you live a market economy and you cannot make money then you are a loser.

So what if someone has an "unfair tax advantage". Hell, I am happy for them and envious that I cannot get the same. I am most certainly NOT angry at them and want to damage them like the lefties do. WHERE THE HELL IS THIS ANGER EVEN COMING FROM?!? The argument that if Company A gets a tax break then we all have to bear a larger burden is complete manufactured bullshit when Congress and the President have it in their combined power to cut EVERYONE'S tax burden by cutting spending. In other words, instead of spreading the burden equally, let's CUT THE BURDEN TO ALL. This concept, my friends and non-friend leftist ignorant creeps, is the difference between REAL CONSERVATIVES and everybody else.

Granted, Democrat voters are simpletons who lack the intellect to grasp this nuance. Honestly, there are plenty on the right who do not get it either (eg, populist Republicans like Santorum and evangelicals). Well, **** them. We cannot continue limiting our future and prosperity with people's ignorance. We are going to get left behind. We are going to have assets foreclosed on by China. We are going to get FUCKED TO DEATH just like Donald in that ******* cartoon.

 

[Lou Skunt]

You do make a valid point. Too many truly believe they deserve or are entitled to everything. It's a huge problem these days.

So the topic is about higher drug prices and to you two fools that means that someone wants something for free?

Every topic is "The left believes..." with some crazy made up shit.

Do that Stephanie

How are you not wanting something for free?

Simple! Because I didnt mention getting anything for any particular price dumb ******

You want people to be able to get drugs at lower prices. You want the product discounted. The margin between the current price and the discounted price is what you are asking for as a handout, or a "freebie".

By the way, your command of the English language sucks.

Lower prices? What do you mean? You said I wanted shit for free now you're going to go against yourself like that?

Apologize to yourself!

I simply asked why is it discounted other places. You, not being able to provide an answer, started talking about what I want instead of the story itself. No better way to troll I guess.

So apologize to yourself for being a dumbass and tell yourself that free doesnt mean discounted.

This is just sad. It pains me to see another human being that just cannot figure things out. You are like a stand-out retard. You can add 2 and 2 correctly, but you are still a slobbering idiot...like sling blade man.

You are dismissed, you poor dumb bastard.

 

[Lou Skunt]

You claimed government regulations hampered US drug companies when in fact they give US companies a huge advantage.

how does that one thing give U.S companies a huge advantage. other than allowing them to try to recover the cost of their research and development.
why should some crap company be allowed to reverse engineer a medication the day it comes out and be able to sell it for 1/10th the amount because they did not have to spend on bringing it to market in the first place.
are you honestly that big of an idiot or do you just post stupid shit to get a reaction

How big a rube do you have to be to believe the price gouging is to recover R&D expenses?

I'm sure that is a part of it, but I am not so stupid as to believe that is the whole. It doesn't take 20 years to recoup R&D. Nowhere near that long.

This is how its been the whole thread. They say that the prices are high because it costs a lot of money to develop it. I've asked them time after time what that has to do with the difference in pricing and that leads them to call names to cover the fact that they dont know shit

Who gives a **** what their profits margins are? It really is none of your business, is it?

If you dont care the door is that way <------------

Or you want to stick around and stroke my dick sommore?

You are one dense dipshit.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Just know that discounts arent free buddy. Dont cry about it, Thanks

 

[Dana7360]

What did I lie about dumbass. I pointed out that pill cost different prices and all you dummies are talking about R&D. Ok, a drug costs a lot to develop what does that have to do with the price difference?

Or the price of tea in china?

What most conservatives either don't know or won't admit is that drug companies get a large portion of their R&D money from us taxpayers.

They get government tax dollars through grants which means that most R&D is paid by American tax dollars.

They also get free research through our public university system. Which is mostly paid for by tax dollars. The government also gives grants to those universities for R&D work. That's on top of the state tax dollars that are paid to those public universities.

The drug companies are robbing Americans blind and stupid conservatives cheer them on.

 

[Vandalshandle]

i would be perfectly willing to pay the same price for RX that the drug companies have agreed to accept in Canada.