what "evidence" ? ------For an interesting study----do ISLAM----INTERNALLY---it is intricately "LOGICAL" assuming your AUTHORITATIVE REFERENCE----is
THE KORAN.
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THE KORAN.
I'm sure you can figure it out. Your supposed to be a smart girl.
The 24,000 written manuscripts and the behaviors of the early Christians and apostles.
I am a smart girl-----but you are OBSCURE
You are certainly welcome to your interpretation of the evidence but it is not mine.
- As much of a miracle worker as Jesus was, there are no contemporary accounts of them. If someone today went around performing miracles I'd expect it would be a much bigger deal.
- I have never witnessed or know anyone who witnessed a miracle or anything supernatural.
- All the accounts of Jesus' miracles were written long after his death by people who never met him nor spoke his language.
- The accounts of miracles would have been very useful if Christians were trying to convert pagans.
Not if you can't figure this out, you're not.
The evidence is far from overwhelming. It is generally just the repetition of folk tales handed down from one generation to the next. The fact that they are believed means little or do you consider the billion Muslims as evidence that Mohammed was given the Quran by God?
luiza
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Unlike the vast majority here, I love researching the fullest possible factual background to a subject .
All the most likely evidence points to the Essene Monk -- their Priest after cousin' Johns small problem -- being bought by Joseph of Aramithea from Pontius before he died .
He recovered , and ending up preaching around Asia Minor with his eldest son .
Naturally this is blasphemy for Cult Christians .
Tough .
It was big deal. A very big deal. 24,000 written manuscripts testify to it, the behaviors of the early Christians testified to it, the behaviors of the apostles testified to it, non-Christians historians confirmed Jesus was worshiped as God and a religion was founded on it. What you fail to recognize is that there was no other event in antiquity that was comparable to the number, timing and accuracy of ancient manuscripts.
So your conclusion that a much bigger deal should have been made about it is idiotic and shows your bias. Where's YOUR evidence?
That's why it was such a big deal when he performed ~40 of them. But the universe being created from nothing being hardwired to produce intelligence and life forming from inanimate material should qualify as miracles that you know about.
The earliest manuscripts occurred within 25 years of the event and the early Christians - the ones who witnessed Jesus performing miracles - worshiped him as God because of it.
You have no evidence to reject the miracles. You have no account of anyone saying these miracles did not happen. You have no explanation for why early Christians worshiped Jesus as God.
Where is YOUR evidence?
if it was such a big deal, someone would have written about it WHEN IT
HAPPENED----instead of waiting 400 years
where are those manuscripts?
Not as much as witnessing the miracles would and don't forget... they were persecuted for their beliefs. So is your argument that is was a conspiracy? Where's your evidence for that?
Actually that's wrong. Occam's razor says you should believe it. The simplest explanation for early Christians worshiping Jesus as God and enduring persecution is that they witnessed the miracles he performed.
Your belief in a long lived conspiracy is way more complex and without one shred of EVIDENCE.
The evidence is overwhelming. The early Christians worshiped Jesus as God and were persecuted for it. That's not folklore. That's documented history. They were there. They saw.
How many of those 24,000 were written when Jesus was alive? If there turn out to be more copies of the Vada will you become a Hindu?
Was that the norm for events in antiquity? What part of no other event in antiquity is comparable did you not comprehend?
It seems you are rather selective about standards for documentation for events in antiquity. Again... they worshiped him as God and endured persecution for doing so. That's the relevant evidence from antiquity. The manuscripts just explain why.
You are looking a little desperate here with your critical theory criticism. Where's YOUR evidence for the conspiracy?
Again... you are ignoring the fact that the early Christians who were alive during the time of Christ worshiped him as God. Why did they do that?
luiza
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Love it when the Cultists cannot make up their minds which narrative to believe .
You are exactly the same as the Jews -- you backed a scam and now cannot understand why nobody believes your nonsense .
2000 years of failed promises and you still believe in the scam .
You are exactly the same as the Jews -- you backed a scam and now cannot understand why nobody believes your nonsense .
2000 years of failed promises and you still believe in the scam .
What was promised?
