The West will have to make peace with Russia

[Resnic]

Useful idiots like you need to learn very simple facts about the Ukrainian conflict:

If Russia wanted peace, then all it had to do was not invade.

If Russia wants peace, then all it has to do is take its soldiers home.

So you and I weren't even speaking, nor did I even address you, but you still chose to start off your conversation with me by hurling insults my way and calling me names for absolutely no reason?

And did you read the threads title or the op? This conversation isn't about if Russia wants peace or not, it's about how the west should have peace with Russia. And that's what my response was in regards to, it was about America's lack of peace talks with Russia. Which was all true. That is the simple fact.

No wonder your post count vs reaction score is what it is.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Resnic, you are an useful idiot.

Russia wants peace? Then why did it invade Ukraine?

 

[AntonToo]

So you and I weren't even speaking, nor did I even address you, but you still chose to start off your conversation with me by hurling insults my way and calling me names for absolutely no reason?

And did you read the threads title or the op? This conversation isn't about if Russia wants peace or not, it's about how the west should have peace with Russia. This conversation isn't about if Russia wants peace or not, it's about how the west should have peace with Russia. And that's what my response was in regards to, it was about America's lack of peace talks with Russia. Which was all true. That is the simple fact.

Yep, just further proof you are ******* clueless.

The West is not at war with Russia. The war is between Russia and Ukraine WHO'S SOVERNTY AND SECURITY WAS ASSURED BY THE WEST when they gave up their Nuclear weapons.

Any "talks" or "agreements" with Russia are not worth the paper they are written on without third party security guarantees (NATO membership). Without it Russia will simply use the process to build up all the resources and millitary it needs to take whatever is left of Ukraine when the moment is right.

 

[Resnic]

Yep, just further proof you are ******* clueless.

The West is not at war with Russia. The war is between Russia and Ukraine WHO'S SOVERNTY AND SECURITY WAS ASSURED BY THE WEST when they gave up their Nuclear weapons.

Any "talks" or "agreements" with Russia are not worth the paper they are written on without third party security guarantees (NATO membership). Without it Russia will simply use the process to build up all the resources and millitary it needs to take whatever is left of Ukraine when the moment is right.

Still calling names huh?

And again, that's not the point of this thread.

I hope God helps you find whatever it is youre missing in your life that makes you so angry and unhappy.

On the ignore list you go. Goodbye

 

[AntonToo]

Still calling names huh?

And again, that's not the point of this thread.

I hope God helps you find whatever it is youre missing in your life that makes you so angry and unhappy.

On the ignore list you go. Goodbye

I'm just calling a spade...a spade.

 

[gipper]

I don't think Putin wants nuclear war any more than we do. And Russia needs to be sanctioned for bad acts as any country doing bad acts needs to be sanctioned and incur consequences for that.

But Trump had the right idea. We don't appreciate others telling us how we must run our country and we are regarded with just as much contempt when we tell other countries how they must run theirs. No dictator is going to willingly give up his country for a more so-called democratic system and all too often, when he is forced to give up his country, he is replaced by a worse devil.

Putin for sure is no angel and no one to use as an ethical or benevolent role model, but he is a known quantity and is much more peaceful and closer to being amenable when he doesn't feel threatened by other countries. Trump says we don't have to like the way these people do things, but the world is in much better shape when there is mutual respect, even friendship instead of everybody threatening war. And that is best achieved by setting ground rules of what is tolerable if not acceptable to each country and other world leaders know he (Trump) is as good as his word as to what the consequences will be for bad acts.

It is that sort of "Trump doctrine' that gave us the closest thing to world peace that any of us have ever experienced in our lifetime.

Following that “logic” the US needs to be sanctioned heavily.

 

[Mac1958]

Resnic, you are an useful idiot.

Russia wants peace? Then why did it invade Ukraine?

Putin knows he just needs to hang on (both militarily and politically) until January.

If things go his way here, he'll have a green light in Ukraine.

That's only six months.

 

[eagle1462010]

Putin knows he just needs to hang on (both militarily and politically) until January.

If things go his way here, he'll have a green light in Ukraine.

That's only six months.

Like he doesnt already??

Work on your trolling Moonbat. Putin has already invaded.

Where do they get these idiots like Mac. Hiring from Mc Donalds

 

[Mac1958]

Putin knows he just needs to hang on (both militarily and politically) until January.

If things go his way here, he'll have a green light in Ukraine.

That's only six months.

Like he doesnt already??

I don't know what that means, but I'm sure you're right.

 

[eagle1462010]

I don't know what that means, but I'm sure you're right.

Well I am too

 

[fncceo]

Support for Ukraine has become a divisive political issue in the United States

Really ... people are rarely divided by something that doesn't matter to them.

 

[AntonToo]

Like he doesnt already??

All Putin knows is Biden’s steadfast support for Ukrainian defense based on ideological convictions.

All Putin knows about Trump is that he is an unprincipled ho that can be had on the cheap.

 

[Foxfyre]

Following that “logic” the US needs to be sanctioned heavily.

Following your opinion here, I don't see much logic.

 

[gipper]

Following your opinion here, I don't see much logic.

So, the US government can invade nations with impunity but Russia better not. This is your opinion, but you must know it’s terribly illogical.

The thinking of the dumb American.

 

[Foxfyre]

So, the US government can invade nations with impunity but Russia better not. This is your opinion, but you must know it’s terribly illogical.

The thinking of the dumb American.

When you can find any quote of mine that even suggests Russia can invade nations with impunity let me know. I swear all of you leftists people seriously need remedial reading comprehension.

 

[gipper]

When you can find any quote of mine that even suggests Russia can invade nations with impunity let me know. I swear all of you leftists people seriously need remedial reading comprehension.

You’ll love the following…

But the U.S. military has been brutally murdering civilians worldwide since the so-called beginning of the country. The U.S. has been responsible for slaughtering civilians for decade after decade, and in many cases, showing this evil on television to the applause of its braindead population. What about the fact that Madeline Albright, then Secretary of State, admitted that murdering 500,000 children under the age of five years, was worth it? Was that not a more heinous crime that was ignored? That is only one example of U.S terror against innocents.

Consider U.S. crimes against humanity in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, Africa, Iran, Russia through the U.S. proxy war in Ukraine, Palestine, and of course in other areas and here at home. Tens of millions of civilians have died just since WWII at the hands of the U.S. directly, or by proxy, but no arrests of the murderers and their mercenaries were ever forthcoming. So why Assange, and what was the real agenda? Dan Dicks does an excellent job of explaining much of this, as can be viewed in this short video he released just recently.
The Current Assange Screenplay: Reality or Psyop? - LewRockwell

 

[Foxfyre]

You’ll love the following…

But the U.S. military has been brutally murdering civilians worldwide since the so-called beginning of the country. The U.S. has been responsible for slaughtering civilians for decade after decade, and in many cases, showing this evil on television to the applause of its braindead population. What about the fact that Madeline Albright, then Secretary of State, admitted that murdering 500,000 children under the age of five years, was worth it? Was that not a more heinous crime that was ignored? That is only one example of U.S terror against innocents.

Consider U.S. crimes against humanity in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, Africa, Iran, Russia through the U.S. proxy war in Ukraine, Palestine, and of course in other areas and here at home. Tens of millions of civilians have died just since WWII at the hands of the U.S. directly, or by proxy, but no arrests of the murderers and their mercenaries were ever forthcoming. So why Assange, and what was the real agenda? Dan Dicks does an excellent job of explaining much of this, as can be viewed in this short video he released just recently.
The Current Assange Screenplay: Reality or Psyop? - LewRockwell

Are you saying I wrote that?

 

[gipper]

Are you saying I wrote that?

Lol.

 

[luiza]

There's a massacre going on in Ukraine right now and Russia holds every Ace , King , Queen and Jack .
It will only make peace if it suits them .

Start from that point and you might start to see the wood from the trees .

The UAF are losing around 2000 fighters every day
They simply have run out of breathing bodies .
Forget the guns , ammunition , tanks, planes etc . They have no reserve people left