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Creatio ex nihilo (Latin, 'creation out of nothing') or nihilogony is the doctrine that matter is not eternal but had to be created by some divine creative act. It is a theistic answer to the question of how the universe came to exist.

Nicene Christian theologies hold to creation ex nihilo. The doctrine has been defended in Christian circles since the religion's infancy, receiving its first explicit articulation by Theophilus of Antioch in To Autolycus. In a chapter entitled "Absurd Opinions of the Philosophers Concerning God", he writes:


Theophilus's statement is nearly identical to epistle to the Romans 4:17:


Thus, there is evidence that creation ex nihilo was being discussed in at least some Christian theological circles by the 3rd century.

I have said, God created out of nothing. So what is your point?

And, (Rom. 4:17) has nothing to do with the creation.

Of course, God created out of nothing. (Gen. 1:1). What's the problem?

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God gave you a brain. Use it.

God gave the Scripture. Believe it.

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The people who wrote the bible had no concept of, let alone any factual data, concerning the big bang, therefore you wont find the answers to the universe in the bible.

(Gen. 1:1) says differently.

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Don't put something equally irrational in its place

Do you call (Gen. 1:1) irrational? I don't.

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The Big Bang says creation was created from nothing. The Big Bang confirms the creation account. It does not refute it.

No, the big bangs says something happened. The big bang says nothing about being created. It says nothing about God creating out of nothing.

Of course the big bang doesn't refute (Gen. 1:1), because it can't. God created out of nothing the heaven and the earth.

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I have said, God created out of nothing. So what is your point?

And, (Rom. 4:17) has nothing to do with the creation.

Of course, God created out of nothing. (Gen. 1:1). What's the problem?

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The problem is you dismissing the Big Bang for no other reason than it offends your religious sensibilities. Especially when the Big Bang affirms the creation account.

 

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God gave the Scripture. Believe it.

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I do. Just not like how you do. I am guided by the Holy Spirit. You are guided by the form of religion.

 

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No, the big bangs says something happened. The big bang says nothing about being created. It says nothing about God creating out of nothing.

Of course the big bang doesn't refute (Gen. 1:1), because it can't. God created out of nothing the heaven and the earth.

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I can’t say it anymore clearly or simply. You are a religious nut job who thinks the planet is 6,000 years old.

 

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There is no big bang without something to go big bang.

And the Bible says God created from nothing.

2 Maccabees isn't Scripture.

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Actually, the Bible says that the universe was created from things that we cannot detect. God "spoke" the universe into existence by the power of his word.

Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

 

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I do. Just not like how you do. I am guided by the Holy Spirit. You are guided by the form of religion.

(Gen. 1:1) "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

I believe that. I don't believe your big bang theory.

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I can’t say it anymore clearly or simply. You are a religious nut job who thinks the planet is 6,000 years old.

I never said the planet is 6,000 years old.

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Actually, the Bible says that the universe was created from things that we cannot detect. God "spoke" the universe into existence by the power of his word.

Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

Indeed, God created from nothing. He spoke the creation into existence.

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(Gen. 1:1) "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

I believe that. I don't believe your big bang theory.

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The Big Bang is the evidence of God creating existence from nothing. The Big Bang reveals God’s glory.

 

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I never said the planet is 6,000 years old.

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What did you say?

 

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The Big Bang is the evidence of God creating existence from nothing. The Big Bang reveals God’s glory.

No, (Gen. 1:1) reveals God's glory. Some scientific theory reveals nothing of God and His glory.

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What did you say?

Go back and read. But I know I never said that. You keep saying I did, but I never did.

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No, (Gen. 1:1) reveals God's glory. Some scientific theory reveals nothing of God and His glory.

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God intended for us to study his creation.

Romans 1:19-20


For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them.
Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse;

 

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Go back and read. But I know I never said that. You keep saying I did, but I never did.

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You said it’s whatever the Bible says.

Now do you remember?

People like you add up the years and come up with 6,000 years from Adam to today. Are you saying the Bible is wrong?

 

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Go back and read. But I know I never said that. You keep saying I did, but I never did.

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Do you believe in evolution?

 

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I have said, God created out of nothing. So what is your point?

And, (Rom. 4:17) has nothing to do with the creation.

Of course, God created out of nothing. (Gen. 1:1). What's the problem?

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I don't see any verse of scripture say that God created out of nothing.