Zone1 the universe has a beginning

[DennisPTate]

When the galaxies first formed and life began 13 billion years or so ago, Do you think the bible's existence in the universe was the same as today? perhaps humans started with ship sailing fishing inventions in the beginning in an archaic state. Then they developed an age of black and white camera technology, then came the computer age which is where we are at now? Could the Bible be a book that evolves slowly with human existence in the universe? Could its problems be answered even though they weren't before?

Actually, I admit that this physical universe would have some sort of a beginning but I do believe that our Creator has been learning and designing and inventing for infinite time in the past, [but most of that would happen in what might be termed Energy from Quantum Vacuum], which I suspect would correspond to 'timelessness."

6. The Void​

At this point of my NDE, I found myself in a profound stillness, beyond all silence. I could see or perceive FOREVER, beyond Infinity. I was in the Void.

I was in pre-creation, before the Big Bang. I had crossed over the beginning of time / the First Word / the First vibration. I was in the Eye of Creation. I felt as if I was touching the Face of God. It was not a religious feeling. Simply, I was at one with Absolute Life and Consciousness. When I say that I could see or perceive forever, I mean that I could experience all of creation generating itself. It was without beginning and without end. That’s a mind-expanding thought, isn’t it? Scientists perceive the Big Bang as a single event that created the Universe. I saw during my life after death experience that the Big Bang is only one of an infinite number of Big Bangs creating Universes endlessly and simultaneously. The only images that even come close in human terms would be those created by super computers using fractal geometry equations.

The ancients knew of this. They said God had periodically created new Universes by breathing out, and recreated other Universes by breathing in. These epochs were called Yugas. Modern science called this the Big Bang. I was in absolute, pure consciousness. I could see or perceive all the Big Bangs or Yugas creating and recreating themselves. Instantly I entered into them all simultaneously. I saw that each and every little piece of creation has the power to create. It is very difficult to try to explain this. I am still speechless about this.

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[trevorjohnson83]

DennisPTate here's my take on the big bang

Thread 'the Outer Verse'

Oct 27, 2025

If the galaxies were the size of an atom they would be sparse as a thin gas and the visible universe would be 4.4 meters of the outer verse. If we are a part of a thin gas that belongs to likely a nebulae, the visible universe is probably to us at 14.6 billion years, look the same everywhere, of course there are greater and greater expanses of nothing that make your clock tick faster and faster outside of our nebula. The heat before the big bang is not likely from trapped photons in a plasma. The atoms of the outer verse existed but didn't radiate like galaxies yet. Some distant source of...

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[Monk-Eye]

" Made In The Image Of Natural Opportunity "

* Fabricating A Will To Power *

Actually, I admit that this physical universe would have some sort of a beginning but I do believe that our Creator has been learning and designing and inventing for infinite time in the past, [but most of that would happen in what might be termed Energy from Quantum Vacuum], which I suspect would correspond to 'timelessness."

Nothing can be separate from itself and there is not a difference between nature itself and a personified creator .

There are principalities of order with consequence in nature .

The allusions to a personified creator are for goading fools into abdicating to ones own pretentious social norms .

. Zone1 - Does Something Without End Have A Beginning ? .

 

[DennisPTate]

" Made In The Image Of Natural Opportunity "

* Fabricating A Will To Power *

Nothing can be separate from itself and there is not a difference between nature itself and a personified creator .

There are principalities of order with consequence in nature .

The allusions to a personified creator are for goading fools into abdicating to ones own pretentious social norms .

. Zone1 - Does Something Without End Have A Beginning ? .

Maybe, but on the other hand, the Energy of Quantum Vacuum would be so "energetic" that it is difficult to imagine some sort of personality or identity not beginning within such a powerful medium?

"It was not until 1920 that the idea of linking electromagnetism and
gravity resurfaced. At that time a new theory of gravitation had been proposed by Albert Einstein (1879-1955), called the general theory of relativity. It was a replacement of Newton's theory, which had stood unchallenged since 1687. Inspired by Einstein's work, a young German mathematician named Theodore Kaluza was seized by a curious idea. The theory of relativity links space an time together to form a four-dimensional space-time continuum. What would happen, mused Kaluza, if general relativity were formulated in five rather than four dimensions? This is what Kaluza did, and to everyone's astonishment it was discovered that five-dimensional gravity obeys the same laws as
four-dimensional gravity as well as Maxwell's laws for the electromagnetic field. In other words, gravitation and electromagnetism are automatically unified in five dimensions, where electromagnetism is merely a component of gravity!"

The only drawback of the theory concerns the extra dimension. Why
don't we see it? An ingenious answer was provided by Oskar Klein. A
hosepipe viewed from afar looks like a wiggly line, i.e. one- dimensional.
However, on closer inspection it can be seen as a narrow tube. It is, in fact,
two-dimensional, and what was taken to be a point on the line is actually a
little circle going around the tube. In the same way, reasoned Klein, what we normally regard as a point in three dimensional space could in reality be a little circle going around a fourth space dimension. Thus Kaluza's extra
dimension might well exist, but be impossible to detect because it is closed
(circular) and rolled up to a very small circumference. In spite of
these bizarre overtones, it seems probable that in future a "theory of everything" will make use of the idea of unseen higher dimensions."
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"Although nature manifests four distinct forces, physicists believe that
each may be part of a smaller number of more primitive forces. At high energy, the electromagnetic and weak forces appear to merge into a single "electroweak" force. Some "grand unified theories" suggest that a further amalgamation takes place between the electroweak and strong forces at as yet unattained energies. The most ambitious unification schemes envisage an amalgamation of all four forces into a single "superforce" at ultra-high levels of energy."

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"The real burden in the next three centuries will not be the development of fancy mathematics, but the experimental testing of these ambitious theories. All current thinking about total unification assumes that the effects of linking all the forces and particles together will only become manifest at energies that are some trillion times greater than those currently attainable in particle accelerators. Probably we shall never reach such energies directly" ( A Theory of Everything" Volume 21 of "The World of Science)