Zone1 The unconditional covenant God made with the Jews (AKA Israelites/Hebrews including converts, excluding Arabs)

[markef]

nope.

Too many US Democrats seem inclined to agree with Hitler that Jews should be destroyed for doing evil.

 

[Lisa558]

Too many US Democrats seem inclined to agree with Hitler that Jews should be destroyed for doing evil.

Someone on this forum, who actually was a mod here, said he didn’t care if Iran vaporized all 7 million Jews in one fell swoop. “Not his problem,” he said.

That is what is behind this insane siding of the Iranian Islamic terrorists. The Dems see it as “only” saving millions of Jews (as opposed to saving the civilized world), and they’d just as soon see them dead.

 

[konradv]

^^^ LOL. No leftist arrogance here!

I’m not going to believe people that voted for Trump three times.

 

[Hafar1014]

Jewish Supremacy?

We are smarter then the average person

 

[Hafar1014]

As an excuse.
While "chosen" means more obligations not "entitled".

Correct Jews were chosen to spread the 10 commandments to the entire world. Who then persecuted Jews for 2000 years. Next time let God choose someone else

 

[Lisa558]

I’m not going to believe people that voted for Trump three times.

More arrogance. I have tons more intelligence than you and significantly better judgement.

 

[konradv]

More arrogance. I have tons more intelligence than you and significantly better judgement.

I just don’t see it. MAGA’s arrogance is legendary.

 

[markef]

I’m not going to believe people that voted for Trump three times.

Trump had to win 3 elections because Democrats stole one of them by fraud.

 

[konradv]

Trump had to win 3 elections because Democrats stole one of them by fraud.

MAGA lies.

 

[markef]

MAGA lies.

Lefties lie like a soiled rug in a brothel.

 

[The Duke]

And when doesn’t it? Aren’t Jews allowed to defend themselves against Muslims who want to destroy them all?

Ofc they are, and ding is no anti-semite at all.

 

[Thethingsz]

Correct Jews were chosen to spread the 10 commandments to the entire world. Who then persecuted Jews for 2000 years. Next time let God choose someone else

Yes

 

[The Duke]

And when doesn’t it? Aren’t Jews allowed to defend themselves against Muslims who want to destroy them all?

It doesn't when anti-semites don't want it to be. However, that's them, not God.
Just remember, with God, all things are possible.

 

[Lisa558]

Ofc they are, and ding is no anti-semite at all.

No, he is. I thought at first he wasn’t, but beginning last month, he said some very anti-Jew things. I’d look them up for you, but I’m off for an appointment. Trust me….VERY negative things about Jewish people.

 

[The Duke]

No, he is. I thought at first he wasn’t, but beginning last month, he said some very anti-Jew things. I’d look them up for you, but I’m off for an appointment. Trust me….VERY negative things about Jewish people.

Bah, that's just his Catholic RCC talking. I'm not believing that.

 

[luiza]

The Unconditional Nature of The Abrahamic Covenant.

Final redemption at End Times , unconditional

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See also: Isaiah 10:32:

they will shake their fist at the mount of Daughter Zion, at the hill of Jerusalem.​

Zechariah 14:

A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls.

2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.

3 Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights on a day of battle.

4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.

5 You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake[a] in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.

6 On that day there will be neither sunlight nor cold, frosty darkness.

7 It will be a unique day—a day known only to the Lord—with no distinction between day and night. When evening comes, there will be light.

8 On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it east to the Dead Sea and half of it west to the Mediterranean Sea, in summer and in winter.

9. The Lord will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one Lord, and his name the only name.

10. The whole land, from Geba to Rimmon, south of Jerusalem, will become like the Arabah. But Jerusalem will be raised up high from the Benjamin Gate to the site of the First Gate, to the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananel to the royal winepresses, and will remain in its place. 11. It will be inhabited; never again will it be destroyed. Jerusalem will be secure.

12. This is the plague with which the Lord will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.

13. On that day people will be stricken by the Lord with great panic. They will seize each other by the hand and attack one another.

14. Judah too will fight at Jerusalem. The wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected—great quantities of gold and silver and clothing.

15. A similar plague will strike the horses and mules, the camels and donkeys, and all the animals in those camps.

16. Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the Lord Almighty, and to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles.

17. If any of the peoples of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord Almighty, they will have no rain.

18. If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The Lord will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles.

This will be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles.

20. On that day holy to the Lord will be inscribed on the bells of the horses, and the cooking pots in the Lord’s house will be like the sacred bowls in front of the altar.

21. Every pot in Jerusalem and Judah will be holy to the Lord Almighty, and all who come to sacrifice will take some of the pots and cook in them. And on that day there will no longer be a Canaanite[c] in the house of the Lord Almighty.

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Amos Ch.9:

1. I saw the Lord standing beside the altar, and He said: Strike the lintel, and the sideposts shall quake, and break to pieces those who are at the head of all of them, and their remnant I will slay by the sword; no one of them shall flee, and no one of them shall escape.

2. If they dig down into the grave, from there My hand shall take them, and if they ascend to the heavens, from there I will bring them down.

3. And if they hide at the peak of Carmel, from there I will search [them out] and I will take them, and if they hide from before My eyes in the land of the sea, from there I will command the serpent, and it shall bite them.

4. And if they go into captivity before their enemies, from there I will command the sword and it shall slay them, and I will place My eye upon them for evil and not for good.

5. And the Lord God of the Hosts, Who touches the land and it quakes, and all the inhabitants thereof shall be destroyed, and it shall ascend wholly like the river, and it shall sink like the river of Egypt.

6. Who built His upper stories in Heaven and has founded His company on earth; Who calls the water of the sea and pours it out on the face of the earth, the Lord is His Name.

7. Are you not like the children of the Cushites to Me, O children of Israel? says the Lord. Did I not bring Israel up from the land of Egypt, and the Philistines from Caphtor and Aram from Kir?

8.Behold the eyes of the Lord God are on the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from upon the face of the earth; but I will not destroy the house of Jacob, says the Lord.

9. For, behold I command, and I will scatter the house of Israel among all the nations; as it is shaken in a sieve, and not a coarse particle falls to the earth.

10. By the sword shall all the sinful of My people perish, those who say, "The evil shall not soon come upon us. "

11. On that day, I will raise up the fallen Tabernacle of David, and I will close up their breaches, and I will raise up its ruins, and build it up as in the days of yore.

12. In order that they inherit the remnant of Edom and all the nations because My Name is called upon them, says the Lord Who does this.

13. Behold days are coming, says the Lord, that the plowman shall meet the reaper and the treader of the grapes the one who carries the seed, and the mountains shall drip sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt.

14. And I will return the captivity of My people Israel, and they shall rebuild desolate cities and inhabit [them], and they shall plant vineyards and drink their wine, and they shall make gardens and eat their produce.

15. And I will plant them on their land, and they shall no longer be uprooted from upon their land, that I have given them, said the Lord your God.​

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EXCLUDING ISHMAEL, ACCEPTING CONVERTS​

Genesis 21:12

But God said to him, “Do not be so distressed about the boy and your slave woman. Listen to whatever Sarah tells you, because it is through Isaac that your offspring[a] will be reckoned​

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As God excluded Ishmael (AKA Arabs, including "palestinians" = who are Arab immigrants grandchildren), from the true 'seed' of Abraham...
Just as God accepted converts into the People of Israel (see: Ex. 12: 38 "a mixed multitude also went up with them," and Ruth 1:1_ Your people will be my people and your God my God the great great... grandmother of King David), so does any true convert enter the 'seeds' of Abraham.
Spiritual seeds. Not just ethnic.
For Jews' attachment to their historic Holy land is not a "race" thing.

The SAME Jewish people
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If, in any doubts, one has to identify who are the same people:
Exdous of Egypt under Moses; entry into their promised land under Joshua and exiled by the Romans from their Jerusalem...

Just look who has been persecuted through Spanish Inquisition, Crusades, blood libels, pogroms, Holocaust, Jewish-nakba-out-of-Arab-lands and still suffer antisemitism.

So what went wrong ?
Why are you so despised ?
Is everybody wrong but you are right ?

Btw
Why do you deny Eichmann was Jewish ?

 

[ding]

While "chosen" means more obligations not "entitled".

Until it doesn't.

And when doesn’t it?

When they behave as if they are entitled instead of obligated.

Aren’t Jews allowed to defend themselves against Muslims who want to destroy them all?

Sure. Feel free to become what you hate, but don't confuse Darwinian behaviors for chosenness.

 

[ding]

Bah, that's just his Catholic RCC talking. I'm not believing that.

I asked the unthinkable question of how is what Israel doing any different than what Germany did. So by her standards I must be anti-Semitic.

 

[rosends]

I asked the unthinkable question of how is what Israel doing any different than what Germany did. So by her standards I must be anti-Semitic.

to even attempt at making an equivalence bespeaks a serious ignorance.

 

[Lisa558]

I asked the unthinkable question of how is what Israel doing any different than what Germany did. So by her standards I must be anti-Semitic.

Yes, equating Israeli Jews to Nazis is antisemitic. Also BEYOND offensive, but that’s why antisemites enjoy yelling “Nazi!” at Jews.

This is Holocaust inversion, in which Jews are cast as the Nazis and the “innocent” (LOL) Palestinians as the “new Jews.”

Antisemitism defined: Why drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to the Nazis is antisemitic - World Jewish Congress

The motivations of those who Israeli policy towards Palestinians with Nazi policy regarding Jews are manyfold. Some seek to achieve the moral delegitimization of Israel through demonization. Some use it as a means with which to cover up for Nazi crimes during the Holocaust and expunge guilt by...

www.worldjewishcongress.org