The Syrian civil war is breeding a new generation of terrorist

[Hollie]

Yea, that's the ticket........

Ok, right. You do feel emasculated and inadequate.

No doubt.........

Maybe get some help for your inadequacies?

 

[Sunni Man]

Ok, right. You do feel emasculated and inadequate.

No doubt.........

Maybe get some help for your inadequacies?

Sure thing.........

 

[Hollie]

Yes, George, I see your point. The 1,400 year long Islamic jihad was created and funded by America. Yowza!

Jihad is world wide, diffuse and self-motivating for the jihadist. Al-Qaeda is just a name. So are Islamic Jihad, Abu Sayyaf, Hizbullah, Harakat al-Muqawamah al-Islamiyyah (Hamas), Al-Ikhwan Al-Moslemoon (the Muslim Brotherhood), Tanzim Qa'idat Al-Jihad in Bilad al-Rafidayn (al-Qaeda in Iraq), and the countless other Islamic terrorist organizations. Whatever name the Islamists prefer to call themselves, they always pass the same message: To kill the infidels and non-believers who would stand between Islam and its delusions of total world supremacy.

"There are two commonly accepted meanings of jihad: an inner spiritual struggle and an outer physical struggle.[2]

"The 'greater jihad' is the inner struggle by a believer to fulfill his religious duties.[2][6]

"This non-violent meaning is stressed by both Muslim[7] and non-Muslim[8] authors.

"However, there is consensus amongst Islamic scholars that the concept of jihad will always include armed struggle against persecution and oppression.[9]"

Possibly you've missed the persecution and oppression the US military has inflicted upon millions of Muslim civilians since 1991? How many civilian infidels have they murdered, maimed, displaced, or forcibly converted in your home town?

Jihad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Honestly George, I think it’s silly to cut and paste definitions of jihad from Wiki.

If you want to understand Jihad, take some time to understand islamist ideology.

Moslems refer to the time before Islam as the Jahiliyyah—the so-called time of ignorance in Arabia before Muhammad (swish) opened up his direct line with God. Through centuries of jihad successes, empire building, and the annihilation or subjugation of many different cultures, Moslems became convinced that they really had passed out of this Jahiliyyah. The truth is, though, they ended up creating a new and far superior time of ignorance, brought on by unquestionable koranic literalism and a politicoreligious doctrine comprised mainly of delusions about a God who wants them to conquer the world by violent means.

The koran and the hadith, which are still interpreted literally, are a virulent manifesto of God-given Islamosupremacy, and they are the blueprint for the Religion of Peace's agenda. It's just easier to lay the blame on discrete group of mass murderers with a name, rather than the religious ideology that inspires them.

The holy warriors of al-Qaeda and all other jihad groups are simply pious Muslims who know their koran and sunnah, and who are following the books to the letter. They are back in those days of violent conquest and murder for God when these books were written—the days when they enjoyed so much success at fighting, killing, and subduing infidels. As then, now.

The religion of Islam was was founded upon a sturdy bedrock of offensive war, unbending intolerance, disdainful and devaluation of the infidel, and divine justification for war and conquest. All of this was reinforced by military victories under the black banner of jihad. Moslems were once a fearsome and destructive force. The mass transnational conquests that followed the death of their warrior prophet rivaled those of the Romans and the Mongolians, the latter of whom tellingly converted to Islam in 1295. WIthin two hundred years, Moslems had conquered half of the civilized world—quite a legacy for a violent glorified highway robber with delusions of grandeur and an insatiable thirst for power. The series of Moslem military conquests was fueled by the same three potent motivators that still drive the ideology of war and conquest today:
1. God's ordination in the koran and sunnah, charging Moslems with the holy mission of making His word (i.e., sharia law) reign supreme in all lands, over all people, for all times—because they are superior to the enemies of God (the infidels).

2. The win-win prospects of the Islamist holy warrior™ going to war against the infidel: If he lives, he wins glory, material gain, sensual pleasure, and supremacy. If he dies as a martyr for the faith, he wins the same in Paradise—endless sex with doe-eyed virgins as the unbelievers are destined burn in hell.

 

[Sunni Man]

"There are two commonly accepted meanings of jihad: an inner spiritual struggle and an outer physical struggle.[2]

"The 'greater jihad' is the inner struggle by a believer to fulfill his religious duties.[2][6]

"This non-violent meaning is stressed by both Muslim[7] and non-Muslim[8] authors.

"However, there is consensus amongst Islamic scholars that the concept of jihad will always include armed struggle against persecution and oppression.[9]"

Possibly you've missed the persecution and oppression the US military has inflicted upon millions of Muslim civilians since 1991? How many civilian infidels have they murdered, maimed, displaced, or forcibly converted in your home town?

Jihad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Honestly George, I think it’s silly to cut and paste definitions of jihad from Wiki.

If you want to understand Jihad, take some time to understand islamist ideology.

Moslems refer to the time before Islam as the Jahiliyyah—the so-called time of ignorance in Arabia before Muhammad (swish) opened up his direct line with God. Through centuries of jihad successes, empire building, and the annihilation or subjugation of many different cultures, Moslems became convinced that they really had passed out of this Jahiliyyah. The truth is, though, they ended up creating a new and far superior time of ignorance, brought on by unquestionable koranic literalism and a politicoreligious doctrine comprised mainly of delusions about a God who wants them to conquer the world by violent means.

The koran and the hadith, which are still interpreted literally, are a virulent manifesto of God-given Islamosupremacy, and they are the blueprint for the Religion of Peace's agenda. It's just easier to lay the blame on discrete group of mass murderers with a name, rather than the religious ideology that inspires them.

The holy warriors of al-Qaeda and all other jihad groups are simply pious Muslims who know their koran and sunnah, and who are following the books to the letter. They are back in those days of violent conquest and murder for God when these books were written—the days when they enjoyed so much success at fighting, killing, and subduing infidels. As then, now.

The religion of Islam was was founded upon a sturdy bedrock of offensive war, unbending intolerance, disdainful and devaluation of the infidel, and divine justification for war and conquest. All of this was reinforced by military victories under the black banner of jihad. Moslems were once a fearsome and destructive force. The mass transnational conquests that followed the death of their warrior prophet rivaled those of the Romans and the Mongolians, the latter of whom tellingly converted to Islam in 1295. WIthin two hundred years, Moslems had conquered half of the civilized world—quite a legacy for a violent glorified highway robber with delusions of grandeur and an insatiable thirst for power. The series of Moslem military conquests was fueled by the same three potent motivators that still drive the ideology of war and conquest today:
1. God's ordination in the koran and sunnah, charging Moslems with the holy mission of making His word (i.e., sharia law) reign supreme in all lands, over all people, for all times—because they are superior to the enemies of God (the infidels).

2. The win-win prospects of the Islamist holy warrior™ going to war against the infidel: If he lives, he wins glory, material gain, sensual pleasure, and supremacy. If he dies as a martyr for the faith, he wins the same in Paradise—endless sex with doe-eyed virgins as the unbelievers are destined burn in hell.

................^^^ So now you have resorted to re-posting your previously refuted nonsense post. ..

Sad, really sad.........

 

[Hollie]

Honestly George, I think it’s silly to cut and paste definitions of jihad from Wiki.

If you want to understand Jihad, take some time to understand islamist ideology.

Moslems refer to the time before Islam as the Jahiliyyah—the so-called time of ignorance in Arabia before Muhammad (swish) opened up his direct line with God. Through centuries of jihad successes, empire building, and the annihilation or subjugation of many different cultures, Moslems became convinced that they really had passed out of this Jahiliyyah. The truth is, though, they ended up creating a new and far superior time of ignorance, brought on by unquestionable koranic literalism and a politicoreligious doctrine comprised mainly of delusions about a God who wants them to conquer the world by violent means.

The koran and the hadith, which are still interpreted literally, are a virulent manifesto of God-given Islamosupremacy, and they are the blueprint for the Religion of Peace's agenda. It's just easier to lay the blame on discrete group of mass murderers with a name, rather than the religious ideology that inspires them.

The holy warriors of al-Qaeda and all other jihad groups are simply pious Muslims who know their koran and sunnah, and who are following the books to the letter. They are back in those days of violent conquest and murder for God when these books were written—the days when they enjoyed so much success at fighting, killing, and subduing infidels. As then, now.

The religion of Islam was was founded upon a sturdy bedrock of offensive war, unbending intolerance, disdainful and devaluation of the infidel, and divine justification for war and conquest. All of this was reinforced by military victories under the black banner of jihad. Moslems were once a fearsome and destructive force. The mass transnational conquests that followed the death of their warrior prophet rivaled those of the Romans and the Mongolians, the latter of whom tellingly converted to Islam in 1295. WIthin two hundred years, Moslems had conquered half of the civilized world—quite a legacy for a violent glorified highway robber with delusions of grandeur and an insatiable thirst for power. The series of Moslem military conquests was fueled by the same three potent motivators that still drive the ideology of war and conquest today:
1. God's ordination in the koran and sunnah, charging Moslems with the holy mission of making His word (i.e., sharia law) reign supreme in all lands, over all people, for all times—because they are superior to the enemies of God (the infidels).

2. The win-win prospects of the Islamist holy warrior™ going to war against the infidel: If he lives, he wins glory, material gain, sensual pleasure, and supremacy. If he dies as a martyr for the faith, he wins the same in Paradise—endless sex with doe-eyed virgins as the unbelievers are destined burn in hell.

................^^^ So now you have resorted to re-posting your previously refuted nonsense post. ..

Sad, really sad.........

Actually, it was you who reposted by comments, the ones which left you dumbstruck.


Thanks.

 

[Sunni Man]

The religion of Islam was was founded upon a sturdy bedrock of offensive war, unbending intolerance, disdainful and devaluation of the infidel, and divine justification for war and conquest. All of this was reinforced by military victories under the black banner of jihad. Moslems were once a fearsome and destructive force. The mass transnational conquests that followed the death of their warrior prophet rivaled those of the Romans and the Mongolians, the latter of whom tellingly converted to Islam in 1295. WIthin two hundred years, Moslems had conquered half of the civilized world—quite a legacy for a violent glorified highway robber with delusions of grandeur and an insatiable thirst for power. The series of Moslem military conquests was fueled by the same three potent motivators that still drive the ideology of war and conquest today:
1. God's ordination in the koran and sunnah, charging Moslems with the holy mission of making His word (i.e., sharia law) reign supreme in all lands, over all people, for all times—because they are superior to the enemies of God (the infidels).

2. The win-win prospects of the Islamist holy warrior™ going to war against the infidel: If he lives, he wins glory, material gain, sensual pleasure, and supremacy. If he dies as a martyr for the faith, he wins the same in Paradise—endless sex with doe-eyed virgins as the unbelievers are destined burn in hell.

................^^^ So now you have resorted to re-posting your previously refuted nonsense post. ..

Sad, really sad.........

Actually, it was you who reposted by comments, the ones which left you dumbstruck

Yea, no doubt..........

 

[georgephillip]

Yes, George, I see your point. The 1,400 year long Islamic jihad was created and funded by America. Yowza!

Jihad is world wide, diffuse and self-motivating for the jihadist. Al-Qaeda is just a name. So are Islamic Jihad, Abu Sayyaf, Hizbullah, Harakat al-Muqawamah al-Islamiyyah (Hamas), Al-Ikhwan Al-Moslemoon (the Muslim Brotherhood), Tanzim Qa'idat Al-Jihad in Bilad al-Rafidayn (al-Qaeda in Iraq), and the countless other Islamic terrorist organizations. Whatever name the Islamists prefer to call themselves, they always pass the same message: To kill the infidels and non-believers who would stand between Islam and its delusions of total world supremacy.

"There are two commonly accepted meanings of jihad: an inner spiritual struggle and an outer physical struggle.[2]

"The 'greater jihad' is the inner struggle by a believer to fulfill his religious duties.[2][6]

"This non-violent meaning is stressed by both Muslim[7] and non-Muslim[8] authors.

"However, there is consensus amongst Islamic scholars that the concept of jihad will always include armed struggle against persecution and oppression.[9]"

Possibly you've missed the persecution and oppression the US military has inflicted upon millions of Muslim civilians since 1991? How many civilian infidels have they murdered, maimed, displaced, or forcibly converted in your home town?

Jihad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Honestly George, I think it’s silly to cut and paste definitions of jihad from Wiki.

If you want to understand Jihad, take some time to understand islamist ideology.

Moslems refer to the time before Islam as the Jahiliyyah—the so-called time of ignorance in Arabia before Muhammad (swish) opened up his direct line with God. Through centuries of jihad successes, empire building, and the annihilation or subjugation of many different cultures, Moslems became convinced that they really had passed out of this Jahiliyyah. The truth is, though, they ended up creating a new and far superior time of ignorance, brought on by unquestionable koranic literalism and a politicoreligious doctrine comprised mainly of delusions about a God who wants them to conquer the world by violent means.

The koran and the hadith, which are still interpreted literally, are a virulent manifesto of God-given Islamosupremacy, and they are the blueprint for the Religion of Peace's agenda. It's just easier to lay the blame on discrete group of mass murderers with a name, rather than the religious ideology that inspires them.

The holy warriors of al-Qaeda and all other jihad groups are simply pious Muslims who know their koran and sunnah, and who are following the books to the letter. They are back in those days of violent conquest and murder for God when these books were written—the days when they enjoyed so much success at fighting, killing, and subduing infidels. As then, now.

When have Muslim enjoyed so much success at fighting, killing, and subduing infidels on the opposite side of the planet as the US has since 1945?

Toxic legacy of US assault on Fallujah 'worse than Hiroshima' - Middle East - World - The Independent

"Dramatic increases in infant mortality, cancer and leukaemia in the Iraqi city of Fallujah, which was bombarded by US Marines in 2004, exceed those reported by survivors of the atomic bombs that were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, according to a new study..."

"The study, entitled 'Cancer, Infant Mortality and Birth Sex-Ratio in Fallujah, Iraq 2005-2009', is by Dr Busby, Malak Hamdan and Entesar Ariabi, and concludes that anecdotal evidence of a sharp rise in cancer and congenital birth defects is correct.

"Infant mortality was found to be 80 per 1,000 births compared to 19 in Egypt, 17 in Jordan and 9.7 in Kuwait.

"The report says that the types of cancer are 'similar to that in the Hiroshima survivors who were exposed to ionising radiation from the bomb and uranium in the fallout'.

"Researchers found a 38-fold increase in leukaemia, a ten-fold increase in female breast cancer and significant increases in lymphoma and brain tumours in adults.

"At Hiroshima survivors showed a 17-fold increase in leukaemia, but in Fallujah Dr Busby says what is striking is not only the greater prevalence of cancer but the speed with which it was affecting people."

If you're a citizen of the US, I would think it's a little vapid, if not venal, of you to focus on Muslim crimes of empire long ago while ignoring the much greater atrocities committed by your side.

Honestly, if you're capable, are you hasbara, Hollie?

 

[georgephillip]

"There are two commonly accepted meanings of jihad: an inner spiritual struggle and an outer physical struggle.[2]

"The 'greater jihad' is the inner struggle by a believer to fulfill his religious duties.[2][6]

"This non-violent meaning is stressed by both Muslim[7] and non-Muslim[8] authors.

"However, there is consensus amongst Islamic scholars that the concept of jihad will always include armed struggle against persecution and oppression.[9]"

Possibly you've missed the persecution and oppression the US military has inflicted upon millions of Muslim civilians since 1991? How many civilian infidels have they murdered, maimed, displaced, or forcibly converted in your home town?

Jihad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Honestly George, I think it’s silly to cut and paste definitions of jihad from Wiki.

If you want to understand Jihad, take some time to understand islamist ideology.

Moslems refer to the time before Islam as the Jahiliyyah—the so-called time of ignorance in Arabia before Muhammad (swish) opened up his direct line with God. Through centuries of jihad successes, empire building, and the annihilation or subjugation of many different cultures, Moslems became convinced that they really had passed out of this Jahiliyyah. The truth is, though, they ended up creating a new and far superior time of ignorance, brought on by unquestionable koranic literalism and a politicoreligious doctrine comprised mainly of delusions about a God who wants them to conquer the world by violent means.

The koran and the hadith, which are still interpreted literally, are a virulent manifesto of God-given Islamosupremacy, and they are the blueprint for the Religion of Peace's agenda. It's just easier to lay the blame on discrete group of mass murderers with a name, rather than the religious ideology that inspires them.

The holy warriors of al-Qaeda and all other jihad groups are simply pious Muslims who know their koran and sunnah, and who are following the books to the letter. They are back in those days of violent conquest and murder for God when these books were written—the days when they enjoyed so much success at fighting, killing, and subduing infidels. As then, now.

The religion of Islam was was founded upon a sturdy bedrock of offensive war, unbending intolerance, disdainful and devaluation of the infidel, and divine justification for war and conquest. All of this was reinforced by military victories under the black banner of jihad. Moslems were once a fearsome and destructive force. The mass transnational conquests that followed the death of their warrior prophet rivaled those of the Romans and the Mongolians, the latter of whom tellingly converted to Islam in 1295. WIthin two hundred years, Moslems had conquered half of the civilized world—quite a legacy for a violent glorified highway robber with delusions of grandeur and an insatiable thirst for power. The series of Moslem military conquests was fueled by the same three potent motivators that still drive the ideology of war and conquest today:
1. God's ordination in the koran and sunnah, charging Moslems with the holy mission of making His word (i.e., sharia law) reign supreme in all lands, over all people, for all times—because they are superior to the enemies of God (the infidels).

2. The win-win prospects of the Islamist holy warrior™ going to war against the infidel: If he lives, he wins glory, material gain, sensual pleasure, and supremacy. If he dies as a martyr for the faith, he wins the same in Paradise—endless sex with doe-eyed virgins as the unbelievers are destined burn in hell.

Why don't you try to show us your knowledge of Islam surpasses Wiki?

"Jihad (English pronunciation: /dʒɪˈhɑːd/; Arabic: جهاد* ǧihād [dʒiˈhæːd]), an Islamic term, is a religious duty of Muslims. In Arabic, the word jihād translates as a noun meaning 'struggle'.

"The word jihad appears in 23 Quranic verses.[1]

"Within the context of the classical Islam, particularly the Shiahs beliefs, it refers to struggle against those who do not believe in the Islamic God (Allah).[2] However, the word has even wider implications.

"Jihad means 'to struggle in the way of Allah'. Jihad appears 41 times in the Quran and frequently in the idiomatic expression 'striving in the way of God (al-jihad fi sabil Allah)'.[3][4][5]

"A person engaged in jihad is called a mujahid; the plural is mujahideen. Jihad is an important religious duty for Muslims. A minority among the Sunni scholars sometimes refer to this duty as the sixth pillar of Islam, though it occupies no such official status.[6]

"In Twelver Shi'a Islam, however, Jihad is one of the 10 Practices of the Religion.

"Ahmadi Muslims consider only defensive jihad to be permissible while rejecting offensive jihad."

Jihad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Hollie]

Honestly George, I think it’s silly to cut and paste definitions of jihad from Wiki.

If you want to understand Jihad, take some time to understand islamist ideology.

Moslems refer to the time before Islam as the Jahiliyyah—the so-called time of ignorance in Arabia before Muhammad (swish) opened up his direct line with God. Through centuries of jihad successes, empire building, and the annihilation or subjugation of many different cultures, Moslems became convinced that they really had passed out of this Jahiliyyah. The truth is, though, they ended up creating a new and far superior time of ignorance, brought on by unquestionable koranic literalism and a politicoreligious doctrine comprised mainly of delusions about a God who wants them to conquer the world by violent means.

The koran and the hadith, which are still interpreted literally, are a virulent manifesto of God-given Islamosupremacy, and they are the blueprint for the Religion of Peace's agenda. It's just easier to lay the blame on discrete group of mass murderers with a name, rather than the religious ideology that inspires them.

The holy warriors of al-Qaeda and all other jihad groups are simply pious Muslims who know their koran and sunnah, and who are following the books to the letter. They are back in those days of violent conquest and murder for God when these books were written—the days when they enjoyed so much success at fighting, killing, and subduing infidels. As then, now.

The religion of Islam was was founded upon a sturdy bedrock of offensive war, unbending intolerance, disdainful and devaluation of the infidel, and divine justification for war and conquest. All of this was reinforced by military victories under the black banner of jihad. Moslems were once a fearsome and destructive force. The mass transnational conquests that followed the death of their warrior prophet rivaled those of the Romans and the Mongolians, the latter of whom tellingly converted to Islam in 1295. WIthin two hundred years, Moslems had conquered half of the civilized world—quite a legacy for a violent glorified highway robber with delusions of grandeur and an insatiable thirst for power. The series of Moslem military conquests was fueled by the same three potent motivators that still drive the ideology of war and conquest today:
1. God's ordination in the koran and sunnah, charging Moslems with the holy mission of making His word (i.e., sharia law) reign supreme in all lands, over all people, for all times—because they are superior to the enemies of God (the infidels).

2. The win-win prospects of the Islamist holy warrior™ going to war against the infidel: If he lives, he wins glory, material gain, sensual pleasure, and supremacy. If he dies as a martyr for the faith, he wins the same in Paradise—endless sex with doe-eyed virgins as the unbelievers are destined burn in hell.

Why don't you try to show us your knowledge of Islam surpasses Wiki?

"Jihad (English pronunciation: /dʒɪˈhɑːd/; Arabic: جهاد* ǧihād [dʒiˈhæːd]), an Islamic term, is a religious duty of Muslims. In Arabic, the word jihād translates as a noun meaning 'struggle'.

"The word jihad appears in 23 Quranic verses.[1]

"Within the context of the classical Islam, particularly the Shiahs beliefs, it refers to struggle against those who do not believe in the Islamic God (Allah).[2] However, the word has even wider implications.

"Jihad means 'to struggle in the way of Allah'. Jihad appears 41 times in the Quran and frequently in the idiomatic expression 'striving in the way of God (al-jihad fi sabil Allah)'.[3][4][5]

"A person engaged in jihad is called a mujahid; the plural is mujahideen. Jihad is an important religious duty for Muslims. A minority among the Sunni scholars sometimes refer to this duty as the sixth pillar of Islam, though it occupies no such official status.[6]

"In Twelver Shi'a Islam, however, Jihad is one of the 10 Practices of the Religion.

"Ahmadi Muslims consider only defensive jihad to be permissible while rejecting offensive jihad."

Jihad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Actually, I did show you my knowledge of Islam surpasses Wiki. I gave you both a historical view and islamist history where your rote copy and paste from Wiki gives you neither.

A bit of advice, George. Wiki is not the source for learing about islam’s jihad. Read the koran, which Moslems believe is God's uncreated, perfect, and literal word. You may find it, as I did, tedious, incondite, and long-winded, but instructive nevertheless in demonstrating a firm religious basis for the violent expansion of Islamist supremacy through jihad. I found the sanction and obligation for holy war in the Koran confirmed and reinforced when I read the hadith of Bukhari and Muslim, which are considered to be wholly authentic. Throughout the sunnah, jihad is glorified as a supreme act of faith, particularly focusing on jihad and its colonialistic/imperialistic character.

You should try doing that

Have you ever read the Koran and sunnah beyond Wiki to understand islamist ideology?

- Those who believe in Allah and the Last Day would not ask permission of you to be excused from striving with their wealth and their lives. And Allah is Knowing of those who fear Him. —koran 9:44

- A group of people from my Umma will continue to fight in obedience to the Command of Allah, remaining dominant over their enemies. Those who will oppose them shall not do them any harm. They will remain ill this condition until the Hour overtakes them [al-Qiyamah—the Last Day, Day of Judgment —ed.] overtakes them. —Sahih Muslim, 20.4721

- "We are those who have given a pledge of allegiance to Muhammad that we will carry on Jihad as long as we live." —Bukhari, 4.87

 

[Sunni Man]

Actually, I did show you my knowledge of Islam surpasses Wiki. I gave you both a historical view and islamist history where your rote copy and paste from Wiki gives you neither.

True, you did show your warped idiotic interpretation of Islam and what it doesn't say. .. .

 

[Hollie]

"There are two commonly accepted meanings of jihad: an inner spiritual struggle and an outer physical struggle.[2]

"The 'greater jihad' is the inner struggle by a believer to fulfill his religious duties.[2][6]

"This non-violent meaning is stressed by both Muslim[7] and non-Muslim[8] authors.

"However, there is consensus amongst Islamic scholars that the concept of jihad will always include armed struggle against persecution and oppression.[9]"

Possibly you've missed the persecution and oppression the US military has inflicted upon millions of Muslim civilians since 1991? How many civilian infidels have they murdered, maimed, displaced, or forcibly converted in your home town?

Jihad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Honestly George, I think it’s silly to cut and paste definitions of jihad from Wiki.

If you want to understand Jihad, take some time to understand islamist ideology.

Moslems refer to the time before Islam as the Jahiliyyah—the so-called time of ignorance in Arabia before Muhammad (swish) opened up his direct line with God. Through centuries of jihad successes, empire building, and the annihilation or subjugation of many different cultures, Moslems became convinced that they really had passed out of this Jahiliyyah. The truth is, though, they ended up creating a new and far superior time of ignorance, brought on by unquestionable koranic literalism and a politicoreligious doctrine comprised mainly of delusions about a God who wants them to conquer the world by violent means.

The koran and the hadith, which are still interpreted literally, are a virulent manifesto of God-given Islamosupremacy, and they are the blueprint for the Religion of Peace's agenda. It's just easier to lay the blame on discrete group of mass murderers with a name, rather than the religious ideology that inspires them.

The holy warriors of al-Qaeda and all other jihad groups are simply pious Muslims who know their koran and sunnah, and who are following the books to the letter. They are back in those days of violent conquest and murder for God when these books were written—the days when they enjoyed so much success at fighting, killing, and subduing infidels. As then, now.

When have Muslim enjoyed so much success at fighting, killing, and subduing infidels on the opposite side of the planet as the US has since 1945?

Toxic legacy of US assault on Fallujah 'worse than Hiroshima' - Middle East - World - The Independent

"Dramatic increases in infant mortality, cancer and leukaemia in the Iraqi city of Fallujah, which was bombarded by US Marines in 2004, exceed those reported by survivors of the atomic bombs that were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, according to a new study..."

"The study, entitled 'Cancer, Infant Mortality and Birth Sex-Ratio in Fallujah, Iraq 2005-2009', is by Dr Busby, Malak Hamdan and Entesar Ariabi, and concludes that anecdotal evidence of a sharp rise in cancer and congenital birth defects is correct.

"Infant mortality was found to be 80 per 1,000 births compared to 19 in Egypt, 17 in Jordan and 9.7 in Kuwait.

"The report says that the types of cancer are 'similar to that in the Hiroshima survivors who were exposed to ionising radiation from the bomb and uranium in the fallout'.

"Researchers found a 38-fold increase in leukaemia, a ten-fold increase in female breast cancer and significant increases in lymphoma and brain tumours in adults.

"At Hiroshima survivors showed a 17-fold increase in leukaemia, but in Fallujah Dr Busby says what is striking is not only the greater prevalence of cancer but the speed with which it was affecting people."

If you're a citizen of the US, I would think it's a little vapid, if not venal, of you to focus on Muslim crimes of empire long ago while ignoring the much greater atrocities committed by your side.

Honestly, if you're capable, are you hasbara, Hollie?

Moving the goal posts, George? You were cutting and pasting definitions of Jihad from Wiki and I gave you greater insight. Your romantic fascination with serial mass murderers is just a little bit creepy.

When have Muslim enjoyed so much success at fighting, killing, and subduing infidels on the opposite side of the planet as the US has since 1945?

What an odd question. Shortly after the death of muhammed (swish), islam’s holy warriors spilled out of the Arabian Peninsula. The barbarian believers hurtled, sword and koran in hand toward war and rapine and the demise of every culture and society it encountered.

It's still the same, and now it's more dangerous than ever because it has been supremely humiliated by the kuffar (infidels) that Moslems have always looked down upon with disgust.

 

[georgephillip]

Honestly George, I think it’s silly to cut and paste definitions of jihad from Wiki.

If you want to understand Jihad, take some time to understand islamist ideology.

Moslems refer to the time before Islam as the Jahiliyyah—the so-called time of ignorance in Arabia before Muhammad (swish) opened up his direct line with God. Through centuries of jihad successes, empire building, and the annihilation or subjugation of many different cultures, Moslems became convinced that they really had passed out of this Jahiliyyah. The truth is, though, they ended up creating a new and far superior time of ignorance, brought on by unquestionable koranic literalism and a politicoreligious doctrine comprised mainly of delusions about a God who wants them to conquer the world by violent means.

The koran and the hadith, which are still interpreted literally, are a virulent manifesto of God-given Islamosupremacy, and they are the blueprint for the Religion of Peace's agenda. It's just easier to lay the blame on discrete group of mass murderers with a name, rather than the religious ideology that inspires them.

The holy warriors of al-Qaeda and all other jihad groups are simply pious Muslims who know their koran and sunnah, and who are following the books to the letter. They are back in those days of violent conquest and murder for God when these books were written—the days when they enjoyed so much success at fighting, killing, and subduing infidels. As then, now.

When have Muslim enjoyed so much success at fighting, killing, and subduing infidels on the opposite side of the planet as the US has since 1945?

Toxic legacy of US assault on Fallujah 'worse than Hiroshima' - Middle East - World - The Independent

"Dramatic increases in infant mortality, cancer and leukaemia in the Iraqi city of Fallujah, which was bombarded by US Marines in 2004, exceed those reported by survivors of the atomic bombs that were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, according to a new study..."

"The study, entitled 'Cancer, Infant Mortality and Birth Sex-Ratio in Fallujah, Iraq 2005-2009', is by Dr Busby, Malak Hamdan and Entesar Ariabi, and concludes that anecdotal evidence of a sharp rise in cancer and congenital birth defects is correct.

"Infant mortality was found to be 80 per 1,000 births compared to 19 in Egypt, 17 in Jordan and 9.7 in Kuwait.

"The report says that the types of cancer are 'similar to that in the Hiroshima survivors who were exposed to ionising radiation from the bomb and uranium in the fallout'.

"Researchers found a 38-fold increase in leukaemia, a ten-fold increase in female breast cancer and significant increases in lymphoma and brain tumours in adults.

"At Hiroshima survivors showed a 17-fold increase in leukaemia, but in Fallujah Dr Busby says what is striking is not only the greater prevalence of cancer but the speed with which it was affecting people."

If you're a citizen of the US, I would think it's a little vapid, if not venal, of you to focus on Muslim crimes of empire long ago while ignoring the much greater atrocities committed by your side.

Honestly, if you're capable, are you hasbara, Hollie?

Moving the goal posts, George? You were cutting and pasting definitions of Jihad from Wiki and I gave you greater insight. Your romantic fascination with serial mass murderers is just a little bit creepy.

When have Muslim enjoyed so much success at fighting, killing, and subduing infidels on the opposite side of the planet as the US has since 1945?

What an odd question. Shortly after the death of muhammed (swish), islam’s holy warriors spilled out of the Arabian Peninsula. The barbarian believers hurtled, sword and koran in hand toward war and rapine and the demise of every culture and society it encountered.

It's still the same, and now it's more dangerous than ever because it has been supremely humiliated by the kuffar (infidels) that Moslems have always looked down upon with disgust.

Who's the current hegemon in the Middle East, DC or Islam?

 

[Hollie]

When have Muslim enjoyed so much success at fighting, killing, and subduing infidels on the opposite side of the planet as the US has since 1945?

Toxic legacy of US assault on Fallujah 'worse than Hiroshima' - Middle East - World - The Independent

"Dramatic increases in infant mortality, cancer and leukaemia in the Iraqi city of Fallujah, which was bombarded by US Marines in 2004, exceed those reported by survivors of the atomic bombs that were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, according to a new study..."

"The study, entitled 'Cancer, Infant Mortality and Birth Sex-Ratio in Fallujah, Iraq 2005-2009', is by Dr Busby, Malak Hamdan and Entesar Ariabi, and concludes that anecdotal evidence of a sharp rise in cancer and congenital birth defects is correct.

"Infant mortality was found to be 80 per 1,000 births compared to 19 in Egypt, 17 in Jordan and 9.7 in Kuwait.

"The report says that the types of cancer are 'similar to that in the Hiroshima survivors who were exposed to ionising radiation from the bomb and uranium in the fallout'.

"Researchers found a 38-fold increase in leukaemia, a ten-fold increase in female breast cancer and significant increases in lymphoma and brain tumours in adults.

"At Hiroshima survivors showed a 17-fold increase in leukaemia, but in Fallujah Dr Busby says what is striking is not only the greater prevalence of cancer but the speed with which it was affecting people."

If you're a citizen of the US, I would think it's a little vapid, if not venal, of you to focus on Muslim crimes of empire long ago while ignoring the much greater atrocities committed by your side.

Honestly, if you're capable, are you hasbara, Hollie?

Moving the goal posts, George? You were cutting and pasting definitions of Jihad from Wiki and I gave you greater insight. Your romantic fascination with serial mass murderers is just a little bit creepy.

When have Muslim enjoyed so much success at fighting, killing, and subduing infidels on the opposite side of the planet as the US has since 1945?

What an odd question. Shortly after the death of muhammed (swish), islam’s holy warriors spilled out of the Arabian Peninsula. The barbarian believers hurtled, sword and koran in hand toward war and rapine and the demise of every culture and society it encountered.

It's still the same, and now it's more dangerous than ever because it has been supremely humiliated by the kuffar (infidels) that Moslems have always looked down upon with disgust.

Who's the current hegemon in the Middle East, DC or Islam?

There go those goal posts again.

But, I’d say the answer to your question is still undecided. The sunni vs. shia wars (note the plural tense) being waged delineate two subdivisions of Islamism as vying for Hegemony.

In Iraq and Syria, it is the millennia old sunni vs. shia blood feud that is driving the conflict. In those two slaughter houses, Persian Iran and its allies are are pitted against sunni/salafi/wahabbi tribes. Neither the US, Russia or Western Europe has any real influence.

In Egypt, it’s quasi-secular (pick a name, I don’t recall who is running the government this week), vs. the Muslim Brotherhood. Here again, even Infidel hush money doesn’t buy much.

So, unfortunately, your question is largely directionless.

 

[Coyote]

Thread cleaned...let's get back on topic (more or less) folks Feel free to continue discussion of sexual inadquacies in the Flame Zone.

 

[Bloodrock44]

Thread cleaned...let's get back on topic (more or less) folks Feel free to continue discussion of sexual inadquacies in the Flame Zone.

I'm too lazy to read this thread so you need to fess up and snitch on the ones who have been discussing my sexual inadequacies or Santa will not be visiting the [MENTION=19170]Coyote[/MENTION] household this year!

 

[georgephillip]

Moving the goal posts, George? You were cutting and pasting definitions of Jihad from Wiki and I gave you greater insight. Your romantic fascination with serial mass murderers is just a little bit creepy.

When have Muslim enjoyed so much success at fighting, killing, and subduing infidels on the opposite side of the planet as the US has since 1945?

What an odd question. Shortly after the death of muhammed (swish), islam’s holy warriors spilled out of the Arabian Peninsula. The barbarian believers hurtled, sword and koran in hand toward war and rapine and the demise of every culture and society it encountered.

It's still the same, and now it's more dangerous than ever because it has been supremely humiliated by the kuffar (infidels) that Moslems have always looked down upon with disgust.

Who's the current hegemon in the Middle East, DC or Islam?

There go those goal posts again.

But, I’d say the answer to your question is still undecided. The sunni vs. shia wars (note the plural tense) being waged delineate two subdivisions of Islamism as vying for Hegemony.

In Iraq and Syria, it is the millennia old sunni vs. shia blood feud that is driving the conflict. In those two slaughter houses, Persian Iran and its allies are are pitted against sunni/salafi/wahabbi tribes. Neither the US, Russia or Western Europe has any real influence.

In Egypt, it’s quasi-secular (pick a name, I don’t recall who is running the government this week), vs. the Muslim Brotherhood. Here again, even Infidel hush money doesn’t buy much.

So, unfortunately, your question is largely directionless.

So you can't quite decide which force has maimed, murdered, displaced, and incarcerated millions of innocent Muslims in the last ten years, is that your problem? Sunni and Shia weren't killing each other in Syria or Iraq in anything like their present numbers before the US invasion and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe AIPAC needs a little more incentive to add Persian misery to the mix?

 

[Hollie]

Who's the current hegemon in the Middle East, DC or Islam?

There go those goal posts again.

But, I’d say the answer to your question is still undecided. The sunni vs. shia wars (note the plural tense) being waged delineate two subdivisions of Islamism as vying for Hegemony.

In Iraq and Syria, it is the millennia old sunni vs. shia blood feud that is driving the conflict. In those two slaughter houses, Persian Iran and its allies are are pitted against sunni/salafi/wahabbi tribes. Neither the US, Russia or Western Europe has any real influence.

In Egypt, it’s quasi-secular (pick a name, I don’t recall who is running the government this week), vs. the Muslim Brotherhood. Here again, even Infidel hush money doesn’t buy much.

So, unfortunately, your question is largely directionless.

So you can't quite decide which force has maimed, murdered, displaced, and incarcerated millions of innocent Muslims in the last ten years, is that your problem? Sunni and Shia weren't killing each other in Syria or Iraq in anything like their present numbers before the US invasion and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe AIPAC needs a little more incentive to add Persian misery to the mix?

It’s not that I can’t decide, I just have no data to confirm your numbers. Apparently, neither do you. That’s your problem, not mine.

Secondly, Sunni and Shia actually were killing each other in Iraq prior to the U.S. invasion. The numbers of mass graves found in Iraq indicated that untold numbers of moslems were being planted all over Iraq. The total body count will never be known. It's quite apparent that Iraq's majority Shia population is suffering the worst of the jihad being waged against them by the Sunni minority which, under Saddam Hussein's auspices, subjected them to privation, fear, and death. What a shame that islam’s holy warriors didn't dare rise up against Saddam Hussein. Could that be because he showed that he wasn't at all shy about wholesale murder with mass collateral damage?


Further, The sunni vs. shia kill-fest in Syria has nothing to do with the US invasion of Iraq. That is fully a function of islamo-supremacy being waged by Persian Iran with aspirations of a Shia Crescent from Iran, into Iraq and through Syria.

Hm, let's see now:
 Syria, an aggressive despotic state allied with Iran:
 Which tyrannized Lebanon for decades,
 Which is implacably hostile toward Israel,
 Which is known to support Hizbollah and other Islamic terror groups,
 Whose agents of insurrection have been captured inside Iraq,
 And which is known to have received truck shipments of something from Saddam Hussein in the days before the inception of Operation Iraqi Freedom,
Any cause for “I blame Amreeka” here?

I think you need a better argument than the “I blame Amreeka” slogan. It’s gettin’ old, Bunky.

 

[toastman]

Who's the current hegemon in the Middle East, DC or Islam?

There go those goal posts again.

But, I’d say the answer to your question is still undecided. The sunni vs. shia wars (note the plural tense) being waged delineate two subdivisions of Islamism as vying for Hegemony.

In Iraq and Syria, it is the millennia old sunni vs. shia blood feud that is driving the conflict. In those two slaughter houses, Persian Iran and its allies are are pitted against sunni/salafi/wahabbi tribes. Neither the US, Russia or Western Europe has any real influence.

In Egypt, it’s quasi-secular (pick a name, I don’t recall who is running the government this week), vs. the Muslim Brotherhood. Here again, even Infidel hush money doesn’t buy much.

So, unfortunately, your question is largely directionless.

So you can't quite decide which force has maimed, murdered, displaced, and incarcerated millions of innocent Muslims in the last ten years, is that your problem? Sunni and Shia weren't killing each other in Syria or Iraq in anything like their present numbers before the US invasion and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe AIPAC needs a little more incentive to add Persian misery to the mix?

George, do you donate money to AIPAC

 

[georgephillip]

There go those goal posts again.

But, I’d say the answer to your question is still undecided. The sunni vs. shia wars (note the plural tense) being waged delineate two subdivisions of Islamism as vying for Hegemony.

In Iraq and Syria, it is the millennia old sunni vs. shia blood feud that is driving the conflict. In those two slaughter houses, Persian Iran and its allies are are pitted against sunni/salafi/wahabbi tribes. Neither the US, Russia or Western Europe has any real influence.

In Egypt, it’s quasi-secular (pick a name, I don’t recall who is running the government this week), vs. the Muslim Brotherhood. Here again, even Infidel hush money doesn’t buy much.

So, unfortunately, your question is largely directionless.

So you can't quite decide which force has maimed, murdered, displaced, and incarcerated millions of innocent Muslims in the last ten years, is that your problem? Sunni and Shia weren't killing each other in Syria or Iraq in anything like their present numbers before the US invasion and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe AIPAC needs a little more incentive to add Persian misery to the mix?

George, do you donate money to AIPAC

Not knowingly.
Do you know something I don't about AIPAC fundraising?

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

US Policies for Middle East

Regime change Iraq

Regime change Syria

A US war of aggression in Iraq.

And over 1 million die.

And the US carries out special operations in Syria stirring up opposition to the government

AND people die In Syria.

Greenspan admits Iraq was about oil, as deaths put at 1.2m

Sunday 16 September 2007*

"The man once regarded as the world's most powerful banker has bluntly declared that the Iraq war was 'largely' about oil.In his long-awaited memoir - out tomorrow in the US - Greenspan, 81, who served as chairman of the US Federal Reserve for almost two decades, writes: 'I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil.'Greenspan's damning comments about the war come as a survey of Iraqis, which was released last week, claims that up to 1.2 million people may have died because of the conflict in Iraq - lending weight to a 2006 survey in the Lancet that reported similarly high levels."

Greenspan admits Iraq was about oil, as deaths put at 1.2m | World news | The Observer