The reason Conservatives lie so much

[elektra]

Sure I did, moron.

You did it again, you love to show off your lack of knowledge as well as your ability to repeat what others say and or tell you to think. But, you simply mindlessly repeat insults, you don't think.

 

[elektra]

Yes, your orange god is a retard.
By far the dumbest president the US has ever had.
Yes, your party has a boogeyman, the rest of your party was scared to death of his tweets.

Right, the richest man to be president is the dumbest? Your lack of reasoning and knowledge would embarrass yourself if you had a tiny bit of brain.

 

[rightwinger]

All the bullshit you spew is original, yet you tow the far Left party line just like the obedient little Communist scumbag you are.

COMMIES!

I see Commies everywhere!

 

[rightwinger]

Right, the richest man to be president is the dumbest? Your lack of reasoning and knowledge would embarrass yourself if you had a tiny bit of brain.

It doesn’t take intellect to inherit money

But no, Trump is not the dumbest…….his followers are

 

[elektra]

It doesn’t take intellect to inherit money

But no, Trump is not the dumbest…….his followers are

It also does not take intellect to simply call me dumb or discredit Trump's success.

 

[hadit]

See post 132.

Which doesn't address the issue, which is that the system requires a person to prove they are innocent in order to get back what was seized from them.

 

[Faun]

Take a good look at the democrats. Who do you like in 2024, Xiden or Kamala? Good luck with either of those.
Voters in the middle always vote their pocketbook, your 1/6 videos will be seen as desperate, since you have no policies that work.
Trump is a narcissist, but at least he knows how to run the country, democrats don't.

10 of the last 11 recessions started under a Republican president.

US Business Cycle Expansions and Contractions

www.nber.org

 

[elektra]

10 of the last 11 recessions started under a Republican president.

US Business Cycle Expansions and Contractions

www.nber.org

but, the actions that resulted in all of the last 11 recessions were the actions of democrats in all parts of our government

 

[Faun]

but, the actions that resulted in all of the last 11 recessions were the actions of democrats in all parts of our government

LOLOL

Suuuure, uh-huh. Republicans don't suck, Democrats just sabotage them.

Here's another, in the history of BLS statistics, Reagan is the only Republican president to leave office with the unemployment rate lower than when they started. Conversely, not a single Democrat president left office with the unemployment rate higher than when they started.

 

[elektra]

LOLOL

Suuuure, uh-huh. Republicans don't suck, Democrats just sabotage them.

Here's another, in the history of BLS statistics, Reagan is the only Republican president to leave office with the unemployment rate lower than when they started. Conversely, not a single Democrat president left office with the unemployment rate higher than when they started.

Depends on where you get your news. When Reagan took office, unemployment in Detroit, as created by Carter's policies, was around 10%. Give or take the national rate under Carter was 8%. Yep, Carter was a very shitty president, to say the least.

 

[Faun]

Depends on where you get your news. When Reagan took office, unemployment in Detroit, as created by Carter's policies, was around 10%. Give or take the national rate under Carter was 8%. Yep, Carter was a very shitty president, to say the least.

I get employment stats from the BLS, the authoritative voice on employment stats.

As far as Carter, as shitty a president as he was, he still added 10.3 million jobs and left office with the unemployment rate at the same level he started with. And in terms of the unemployment rate, Carter ranked in last place among Democrats but in second place among Republicans. That's how bad Republicans are at holding the highest office in the land.

Here's another...

BLS stats on jobs goes as far back as 1939...

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

data.bls.gov

Since then, Democrats have been in charge of the Executive branch almost the same number of years as Republicans...

Democrats ....... 42½ years
Republicans ..... 40 years

Number of jobs added during those years...

Democrats ....... 85,235,000
Republicans ..... 32,032,000

Average number of jobs added per year...

Democrats ....... 2,001,605
Republicans ........ 800,800

Face reality ... Republicans suck at running the economy. All you have are excuses, not viable policies.

 

[tshrimp]

Yes, it is the guy just didn't claim he didn't like doctors.
He told the doctor 'I know where you live' after being belligerent to him and his staff, before getting dropped as a patient.

The Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment echoes that of the Fifth Amendment.
The Fifth Amendment, however, applies only against the federal government.

When it was adopted, the Clause was understood to mean that the government could deprive a person of rights only according to law applied by a court. Yet since then, the Supreme Court has elaborated significantly on this core understanding. As the examples above suggest, the rights protected under the Fourteenth Amendment can be understood in three categories: (1) “procedural due process;” (2) the individual rights listed in the Bill of Rights, “incorporated” against the states; and (3) “substantive due process.”

Procedural Due Process

“Procedural due process” concerns the procedures that the government must follow before it deprives an individual of life, liberty, or property.
Historically, due process ordinarily entailed a jury trial. The jury determined the facts and the judge enforced the law. In past two centuries, however, states have developed a variety of institutions and procedures for adjudicating disputes. Making room for these innovations, the Court has determined that due process requires, at a minimum: (1) notice; (2) an opportunity to be heard; and (3) an impartial tribunal. Mullane v. Central Hanover Bank (1950).

The law slightly amended the Baker Act, under which law enforcement officials can take someone against their will to a facility for a mental health evaluation if the person is a danger to themselves or others. Authorities can confiscate a person’s guns if they pose a potential danger to themselves or have made a credible threat of violence against another person.

California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Nevada, NEW JERSEY, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, and Washington, have red flag laws.


Florida's legislators moved quickly to pass SB 7026, allowing law enforcement to seek a risk protection order from a judge that would temporarily remove a person’s firearm(s) for up to a year. It also bars those individuals from buying guns during that time.

Continued misunderstanding of the constitution by a leftist. Let me help with the important part...

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

Edit:
Even your post shows...

Court has determined that due process requires, at a minimum: (1) notice; (2) an opportunity to be heard; and (3) an impartial tribunal. Mullane v. Central Hanover Bank (1950).

These states do none of the above before taking your gun when it comes to red flag. You don't get a notice, you don't get an opportunity to be heard and you don't get an impartial tribunal. You get your gun taken and then have to fight to get it back.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Guess I'll put the "Republicans are unfit to run shit" BS leftists are parroting in this thread. with my bitchn' easy to read factual data spread.

Fucking A PROGS don't know much, and what little they might know is projection. Fuck, these assholes don't even know what Congress does. That's almost easy to understand though, look at their speaker. You'll notice the following:

A. The Demonics controlled both houses in the 70s when we lived stagflation among other problems.

B. The Republicans controlled both houses when "Clinton balanced the budget" which is a lie anyway. The budget hasn't been balanced since Nixon. They're too dumb as rocks to know the primary reasons for good standing was Dot.com and open Chinese trade, and fuck have we paid the price for that business long term, that's well over PROG-heads.

C. The Demonicrats controlled both houses when we entered the "Bush recession".

D. O'bummer was running shit with Democrooks controlling both houses when we reached the floor on "Bush's recession".

E. The Demonicrots controlled Congress when we entered "Trump's recession", because God only knows COVID was his fault as was the Demorats going into a frenzy while closing their States and assaulting small business for sake of China, Amazon and left-driven riots.

F. O'bummer's economic recovery from the deep "Bush's recession" was a fucking joke. Shit, GDP raised approx. 40% Trump's last two quarters, what's O'bummer's excuse?

F. And now Xiden is "in-charge" with the Demoprogs controlling both houses, how's that going?

YR	POTUS	SEN	Con	UN-EMP Rate	POVTY Rate	Crime Rate	GDP	Ave. Misery Rate	Ave. MORT Rate	Inflation Rate	Fed. Debt
1975	Ford	Dem	Dem	8.48	12.3	5.30%	-0.21%	15.10%	9.05%	9.14%	533.2 B
1976	Ford	Dem	Dem	7.70	11.8	5.29%	5.39%	12.70%	8.87%	5.74%	620.4 B
1977	Carter	Dem	Dem	7.05	11.6	5.08%	4.62%	13.10%	8.85%	6.50%	699.8 B
1978	Carter	Dem	Dem	6.07	11.4	5.14%	5.54%	15.00%	9.64%	7.63%	771.5 B
1979	Carter	Dem	Dem	5.85	11.7	5.57%	3.17%	19.30%	11.20%	11.25%	826.5 B
1980	Carter	Dem	Dem	7.18	13	5.95%	-0.26%	19.70%	13.74%	13.55%	907.7 B
1981	Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.62	14	5.86%	2.54%	12.19%	16.63%	10.33%	997.9 B
1982	Reagan	Rep	Dem	9.71	15	5.60%	-1.80%	12.19%	16.04%	6.13%	1.14 T
1983	Reagan	Rep	Dem	9.60	15.2	5.18%	4.58%	12.19%	13.24%	3.21%	1.38 T
1984	Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.51	14.4	5.03%	7.24%	12.19%	13.88%	4.30%	1.57 T
1985	Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.19	14	5.21%	4.17%	12.19%	12.43%	3.55%	1.82 T
1986	Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.00	13.6	5.50%	3.46%	12.19%	10.19%	1.90%	2.13 T
1987	Reagan	Dem	Dem	6.18	13.4	5.58%	3.46%	12.19%	10.21%	3.66%	2.35 T
1988	Reagan	Dem	Dem	5.49	13	5.66%	4.18%	12.19%	10.34%	4.08%	2.60 T
1989	Bush	Dem	Dem	5.26	12.8	5.74%	3.68%	10.68%	10.32%	4.83%	2.86 T
1990	Bush	Dem	Dem	5.62	13.5	5.82%	-1.79%	10.68%	10.13%	5.40%	3.23 T
1991	Bush	Dem	Dem	6.85	14.2	5.90%	-1.99%	10.68%	9.25%	4.24%	3.67 T
1992	Bush	Dem	Dem	7.49	14.8	5.66%	3.52%	10.68%	8.39%	3.03%	4.06 T
1993	Clinton	Dem	Dem	6.91	15.1	5.48%	2.75%	9.20%	7.31%	2.95%	4.41 T
1994	Clinton	Dem	Dem	6.10	14.5	5.37%	4.03%	8.20%	8.38%	2.61%	4.70 T
1995	Clinton	Rep	Rep	5.59	13.8	5.28%	2.68%	8.10%	7.93%	2.81%	4.98 T
1996	Clinton	Rep	Rep	5.41	13.7	5.09%	3.77%	8.70%	7.81%	2.93%	5.22 T
1997	Clinton	Rep	Rep	4.94	13.3	4.93%	4.45%	6.40%	7.60%	2.34%	5.41 T
1998	Clinton	Rep	Rep	4.50	12.7	4.62%	4.48%	6.00%	6.94%	1.55%	5.53 T
1999	Clinton	Rep	Rep	4.22	11.9	4.27%	4.75%	6.70%	7.44%	2.19%	5.66 T
2000	Clinton	Rep	Rep	3.97	11.3	4.12%	-0.63%	7.30%	8.05%	3.38%	5.67 T
2001	Bush	Dem	Rep	4.74	11.7	4.16%	-3.13%	7.30%	6.97%	2.83%	5.80 T
2002	Bush	Dem	Rep	5.78	12.1	4.13%	1.74%	8.40%	6.54%	1.59%	6.23 T
2003	Bush	Rep	Rep	5.99	12.5	4.07%	2.86%	7.60%	5.83%	2.27%	6.78 T
2004	Bush	Rep	Rep	5.54	12.7	3.98%	3.80%	8.70%	5.84%	2.68%	7.38 T
2005	Bush	Rep	Rep	5.08	12.6	3.90%	3.51%	8.30%	5.87%	3.39%	7.93 T
2006	Bush	Rep	Rep	4.61	12.3	3.81%	2.86%	6.90%	6.41%	3.23%	8.50 T
2007	Bush	Dem	Dem	4.62	12.5	3.73%	1.88%	9.10%	6.34%	2.85%	9.07 T
2008	Bush	Dem	Dem	5.80	13.2	3.67%	-0.14%	7.40%	6.03%	3.84%	10.02 T
2009	Obama	Dem	Dem	9.28	14.3	3.51%	-2.54%	12.60%	5.04%	-0.36%	11.90 T
2010	Obama	Dem	Dem	9.61	15.1	3.35%	2.56%	10.80%	4.69%	1.64%	13.56 T
2011	Obama	Dem	Rep	8.93	15	3.29%	1.55%	11.50%	4.45%	3.16%	14.79 T
2012	Obama	Dem	Rep	8.08	15	3.26%	2.25%	9.60%	3.66%	2.07%	16.06 T
2013	Obama	Dem	Rep	7.36	14.8	3.11%	1.84%	8.20%	3.98%	1.46%	16.74 T
2014	Obama	Dem	Rep	6.16	14.8	2.95%	2.53%	6.40%	4.17%	1.62%	17.82 T
2015	Obama	Rep	Rep	5.28	13.5	2.89%	2.91%	5.70%	3.85%	0.12%	18.15 T
2016	Obama	Rep	Rep	4.88	12.7	2.85%	1.64%	6.80%	3.65%	1.26%	19.57 T
2017	Trump	Rep	Rep	4.35	12.3	2.76%	2.37%	6.30%	3.99%	2.13%	20.24 T
2018	Trump	Rep	Rep	3.89	11.8	2.59%	2.93%	5.80%	4.54%	2.44%	21.52 T
2019	Trump	Rep	Dem	3.68	10.5	2.49%	2.16%	5.80%	3.94%	1.81%	22.71 T
June 2020	Trump	Rep	Dem		9.3		Pending	6.6	3.16%	1.25%
2020	Trump	Rep	Dem	6.70	11.7		-3.30%	6.6	3.11%	1.25%	26.95 T
2021	Xiden	Dem	Dem	5.90	Projected 13.7		1st Qtr. 6.5%	10.77	3.13%	5.3%	28.8 T

I wonder why

bill718 the OP hasn't shown his appreciation for this post? I'm a nice guy and would hate to see him spilling BS like the OP into adulthood, know what I mean? ​

 

[tshrimp]

You're too young, brainwashed or delusional, likely, all three.

'He may be the least corrupt president we have ever had'.
Sure he was.

"By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. In terms of number of officials involved, the record of his administration was the worst ever."

The presidency of Ronald Reagan in the United States was marked by numerous scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any president in American history.

Could we get some links please? Even the links in your post did not show that, but was standard add in links to Wikipedia. So just assume you cut an pasted someone else's opinion as your own.

I will say he was very popular for a "corrupt president". From one of your links.

Leaving office in 1989, Reagan held an approval rating of 68%.

Reagan won a record 525 electoral votes

1984: He even carried California .

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Conservative lies: You've heard them all before-

Liberals want to take all our guns away, Liberals want open borders, Liberals never work, Liberals are soft on crime, Liberals just want is "free stuff" Liberals are Socialists, Liberals hate white people, Liberals are destroying our cities with crime and violence. On and on it goes. Here is the cold, hard truth why these lies persist to this day-

Conservatives have nothing better to offer the American people!

Think about it...was the American economy better under Reagan, the Bush's and Trump than that of Clinton, Obama, and Biden? Answer: NO. Was America any safer? Answer: NO Was the crime rate any lower? Answer: NO Was the national debt any smaller? Answer: NO. (Clinton was the last President to record a national surplus) Was the environment any cleaner? Answer: NO Were our children any better educated? Answer: NO. Did our justice system work any better? Answer: NO And the list goes on -

The bottom line is the Conservative agenda has little to offer average Americans, and a great deal to offer the 1%. To make up for this, Conservative America resorts to district gerrymandering, name calling, conspiracy theory's, soundbites such as "deep state" "MSM", as well as deeply questioning the legitimacy of America's 240+ year electoral process to create the impression that "it's all rigged!" When in fact it's really not.

But, Conservatives have nothing better to offer....

Flame zone thread

 

[Dayton3]

Not really worried as long as Trump is still considered a party leader. 1/6 videos will be on an endless loop. Good luck with your ‘22&’24 fantasies.

Quite beating a dead horse. Stay in your lane dude.

 

[tshrimp]

It doesn’t take intellect to inherit money

But no, Trump is not the dumbest…….his followers are

Not sure how you can say that with the winner you and your leftists buddies have put into office. Only the true lemming faithful still think Biden is a good president.

 

[konradv]

Quit beating a dead horse. Stay in your lane dude.

Trump died? When, dudette?

 

[Smokin' OP]

Which doesn't address the issue, which is that the system requires a person to prove they are innocent in order to get back what was seized from them.

Yes, it does, idiot.
That's what a court is for.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Continued misunderstanding of the constitution by a leftist. Let me help with the important part...

'No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law'.

Let me help you out.

The 14th Amendment has to do with the US government, not states.

The Privileges or Immunities Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment was part of the amendment proposed by the Joint Committee on Reconstruction.

According to the Supreme Court’s cases, the privileges and immunities that no state shall abridge include only a limited number of legal protections related to distinctively national citizenship as opposed to state citizenship. In the Court’s view, the basic legal rights of the private law, like property, contract, and family relations, are not associated with citizenship of the United States as such. Rather, those rights are associated with state citizenship.

People HAVE due process, it's called a court, moron.

Edit:
Even your post shows...

These states do none of the above before taking your gun when it comes to red flag. You don't get a notice, you don't get an opportunity to be heard and you don't get an impartial tribunal. You get your gun taken and then have to fight to get it back.

'You don't get a notice'?

Under Florida's "red flag law," courts may issue risk protection orders (RPOs) to prohibit certain individuals (called "respondents") from having any firearms or ammunition because they pose a serious risk of gun violence.
In Florida only law enforcement agencies or officers may file petitions for RPOs.

As soon as a petition is filed, the court must schedule a hearing on the RPO request within 14 days. The respondent must receive a notice about the petition and the hearing as soon as possible. (Fla. Stat. § 790.401(4) (2021).)