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The reason Conservatives lie so much

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Trump?
Rich?
Everything he has is mortgaged or leased.
Trump is the most corrupt president since Reagan.
You should go live with your act. That is the funniest thing I have ever heard. "Reagan corrupt"...LOL...you slay me. He may be the least corrupt president we have ever had. With the revisionist history the left likes to push, maybe he did something in one of your altered facts articles.
 

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Conservative lies: You've heard them all before-

Liberals want to take all our guns away, Liberals want open borders, Liberals never work, Liberals are soft on crime, Liberals just want is "free stuff" Liberals are Socialists, Liberals hate white people, Liberals are destroying our cities with crime and violence. On and on it goes. Here is the cold, hard truth why these lies persist to this day-

Conservatives have nothing better to offer the American people!

Think about it...was the American economy better under Reagan, the Bush's and Trump than that of Clinton, Obama, and Biden? Answer: NO. Was America any safer? Answer: NO Was the crime rate any lower? Answer: NO Was the national debt any smaller? Answer: NO. (Clinton was the last President to record a national surplus) Was the environment any cleaner? Answer: NO Were our children any better educated? Answer: NO. Did our justice system work any better? Answer: NO And the list goes on -

The bottom line is the Conservative agenda has little to offer average Americans, and a great deal to offer the 1%. To make up for this, Conservative America resorts to district gerrymandering, name calling, conspiracy theory's, soundbites such as "deep state" "MSM", as well as deeply questioning the legitimacy of America's 240+ year electoral process to create the impression that "it's all rigged!" When in fact it's really not.

But, Conservatives have nothing better to offer....

Liberals want to take all our guns away, Show me ANYWHERE that says conservatives said that? Just one instance will do. Until then it's you who is lying.

Liberals want open borders. Sanctuary cities, States and you fucks don't want a wall because Trump did. Plain and simple. You're lying

Liberals never work Show me ANYWHERE that says conservatives said that? Just one instance will do. Until then it's you who is lying.

Liberals are soft on crime They are dumbass, the proof is everywhere. It's you who is lying.


Liberals just want is "free stuff" Your end preaches & practices entitlements. Now you don't want them cuz you say so?


Liberals are Socialists. You're right. Read 45 declarations for communist takeover of the USA

Liberals hate white people Who the fuck says that besides you? No, Liberals don't exist or are dying out replaced by PROGS. PROGS verbally assault white people all the time.


Liberals are destroying our cities with crime and violence. You're right, because Demonicrats are.

On and on it goes. Here is the cold, hard truth why these lies persist to this day- :abgg2q.jpg:

 
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Conservative lies: You've heard them all before-

Liberals want to take all our guns away, Liberals want open borders, Liberals never work, Liberals are soft on crime, Liberals just want is "free stuff" Liberals are Socialists, Liberals hate white people, Liberals are destroying our cities with crime and violence. On and on it goes. Here is the cold, hard truth why these lies persist to this day-

Conservatives have nothing better to offer the American people!

Think about it...was the American economy better under Reagan, the Bush's and Trump than that of Clinton, Obama, and Biden? Answer: NO. Was America any safer? Answer: NO Was the crime rate any lower? Answer: NO Was the national debt any smaller? Answer: NO. (Clinton was the last President to record a national surplus) Was the environment any cleaner? Answer: NO Were our children any better educated? Answer: NO. Did our justice system work any better? Answer: NO And the list goes on -

The bottom line is the Conservative agenda has little to offer average Americans, and a great deal to offer the 1%. To make up for this, Conservative America resorts to district gerrymandering, name calling, conspiracy theory's, soundbites such as "deep state" "MSM", as well as deeply questioning the legitimacy of America's 240+ year electoral process to create the impression that "it's all rigged!" When in fact it's really not.

But, Conservatives have nothing better to offer....
The GOP is the party of total failure.

The GOP record is trash.

All the major problems in America are a result of GOP policy mistakes, therefor they need to lie because they have no record of success.
 

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Thats a fact

Every time a liberal compares the rate of gun violence in countries where private gun ownership is highly restricted or non existent to America they are telling us they want to take our guns away
This is a lame effort to defend a BIG LIE / Conspiracy. How many mass shootings are committed by private citizens? Not as many as the number of private citizens who don't murder innocent people.

The facts are these:
  • "shall not be infringed" is ludicrous
    • Some Arms are restricted by law
    • Some Arms are regulated
    • Some Arms are fully limited to our armed forces
  • Guns are Arms, but all are killing instruments
    • Vastly more murders are committed by guns in the U.S.
    • Vastly more suicides too
  • The cost to the Federal Government to take away the guns of all private sectors is absurd
    • It is too expensive
    • It is impossible
    • It is not on any agenda, hidden or otherwise
    • The same is not a plan of any other state or local government.
 

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This is a lame effort to defend a BIG LIE / Conspiracy. How many mass shootings are committed by private citizens? Not as many as the number of private citizens who don't murder innocent people.

The facts are these:
  • "shall not be infringed" is ludicrous
    • Some Arms are restricted by law
    • Some Arms are regulated
    • Some Arms are fully limited to our armed forces
  • Guns are Arms, but all are killing instruments
    • Vastly more murders are committed by guns in the U.S.
    • Vastly more suicides too
  • The cost to the Federal Government to take away the guns of all private sectors is absurd
    • It is too expensive
    • It is impossible
    • It is not on any agenda, hidden or otherwise
    • The same is not a plan of any other state or local government.
There are plenty of ways for libs to interfere with the roght to bear arms besides confiscation

And tje gin grabbers are capable of all of them
 

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All the major problems in America are a result of GOP policy mistakes, therefor they need to lie because they have no record of success.
Like the end of slavery? That was the GOP policy mistake? Lincoln going to war against the Democorat slave owners. What other mistakes of the GOP do you not like?

Maybe the next policy mistake of the GOP you do not like is when we voted for the civil rights acts in the 1960's. We do know the Democrats did not want to pass the civil rights acts, that it was the GOP that ensured the passage.

And that huge mistake of Nixon's, ending the Vietnam War that the Democrats started.
Or Nixon's other mistake, creating the EPA.

Yes, I can see how you would be angry
 

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There are plenty of ways for libs to interfere with the roght to bear arms besides confiscation

And tje gin grabbers are capable of all of them
First, learn how to edit your posts. Next, list the "roght" that "tie gin grabbers" are capable of doing?
 

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Conservatives crave a simple world where even complex problems have simple solutions where leaders rule with moral certainty and never feel sorry for their mistakes. Their information bubble allows them to have this. Of course it's all run by opportunistic liars but it would never work if everyday right wingers did not believe it. They do not think they are lying. (for the most part)
Wow! Sure sounds like you are describing the so-called Democrat Party.
 

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Guess I'll put the "Republicans are unfit to run shit" BS leftists are parroting in this thread. with my bitchn' easy to read factual data spread.

Fucking A PROGS don't know much, and what little they might know is projection. Fuck, these assholes don't even know what Congress does. That's almost easy to understand though, look at their speaker. You'll notice the following:

A. The Demonics controlled both houses in the 70s when we lived stagflation among other problems.

B. The Republicans controlled both houses when "Clinton balanced the budget" which is a lie anyway. The budget hasn't been balanced since Nixon. They're too dumb as rocks to know the primary reasons for good standing was Dot.com and open Chinese trade, and fuck have we paid the price for that business long term, that's well over PROG-heads.

C. The Demonicrats controlled both houses when we entered the "Bush recession".

D. O'bummer was running shit with Democrooks controlling both houses when we reached the floor on "Bush's recession".

E. The Demonicrots controlled Congress when we entered "Trump's recession", because God only knows COVID was his fault as was the Demorats going into a frenzy while closing their States and assaulting small business for sake of China, Amazon and left-driven riots.

F. O'bummer's economic recovery from the deep "Bush's recession" was a fucking joke. Shit, GDP raised approx. 40% Trump's last two quarters, what's O'bummer's excuse?

F. And now Xiden is "in-charge" with the Demoprogs controlling both houses, how's that going?

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1978CarterDemDem6.0711.45.14%5.54%15.00%9.64%7.63%771.5 B
1979CarterDemDem5.8511.75.57%3.17%19.30%11.20%11.25%826.5 B
1980CarterDemDem7.18135.95%-0.26%19.70%13.74%13.55%907.7 B
1981ReaganRepDem7.62145.86%2.54%12.19%16.63%10.33%997.9 B
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1983ReaganRepDem9.6015.25.18%4.58%12.19%13.24%3.21%1.38 T
1984ReaganRepDem7.5114.45.03%7.24%12.19%13.88%4.30%1.57 T
1985ReaganRepDem7.19145.21%4.17%12.19%12.43%3.55%1.82 T
1986ReaganRepDem7.0013.65.50%3.46%12.19%10.19%1.90%2.13 T
1987ReaganDemDem6.1813.45.58%3.46%12.19%10.21%3.66%2.35 T
1988ReaganDemDem5.49135.66%4.18%12.19%10.34%4.08%2.60 T
1989BushDemDem5.2612.85.74%3.68%10.68%10.32%4.83%2.86 T
1990BushDemDem5.6213.55.82%-1.79%10.68%10.13%5.40%3.23 T
1991BushDemDem6.8514.25.90%-1.99%10.68%9.25%4.24%3.67 T
1992BushDemDem7.4914.85.66%3.52%10.68%8.39%3.03%4.06 T
1993ClintonDemDem6.9115.15.48%2.75%9.20%7.31%2.95%4.41 T
1994ClintonDemDem6.1014.55.37%4.03%8.20%8.38%2.61%4.70 T
1995ClintonRepRep5.5913.85.28%2.68%8.10%7.93%2.81%4.98 T
1996ClintonRepRep5.4113.75.09%3.77%8.70%7.81%2.93%5.22 T
1997ClintonRepRep4.9413.34.93%4.45%6.40%7.60%2.34%5.41 T
1998ClintonRepRep4.5012.74.62%4.48%6.00%6.94%1.55%5.53 T
1999ClintonRepRep4.2211.94.27%4.75%6.70%7.44%2.19%5.66 T
2000ClintonRepRep3.9711.34.12%-0.63%7.30%8.05%3.38%5.67 T
2001BushDemRep4.7411.74.16%-3.13%7.30%6.97%2.83%5.80 T
2002BushDemRep5.7812.14.13%1.74%8.40%6.54%1.59%6.23 T
2003BushRepRep5.9912.54.07%2.86%7.60%5.83%2.27%6.78 T
2004BushRepRep5.5412.73.98%3.80%8.70%5.84%2.68%7.38 T
2005BushRepRep5.0812.63.90%3.51%8.30%5.87%3.39%7.93 T
2006BushRepRep4.6112.33.81%2.86%6.90%6.41%3.23%8.50 T
2007BushDemDem4.6212.53.73%1.88%9.10%6.34%2.85%9.07 T
2008BushDemDem5.8013.23.67%-0.14%7.40%6.03%3.84%10.02 T
2009ObamaDemDem9.2814.33.51%-2.54%12.60%5.04%-0.36%11.90 T
2010ObamaDemDem9.6115.13.35%2.56%10.80%4.69%1.64%13.56 T
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2012ObamaDemRep8.08153.26%2.25%9.60%3.66%2.07%16.06 T
2013ObamaDemRep7.3614.83.11%1.84%8.20%3.98%1.46%16.74 T
2014ObamaDemRep6.1614.82.95%2.53%6.40%4.17%1.62%17.82 T
2015ObamaRepRep5.2813.52.89%2.91%5.70%3.85%0.12%18.15 T
2016ObamaRepRep4.8812.72.85%1.64%6.80%3.65%1.26%19.57 T
2017TrumpRepRep4.3512.32.76%2.37%6.30%3.99%2.13%20.24 T
2018TrumpRepRep3.8911.82.59%2.93%5.80%4.54%2.44%21.52 T
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The 5th and 14th amendment is not an opinion. Again, if guns are taken because they THINK you may commit a crime, that is NOT due process. That is no different then the police giving you a ticket because they think you may run a stop sign because you posted on Facebook that you don't like stop signs.
Yes, it is the guy just didn't claim he didn't like doctors.
He told the doctor 'I know where you live' after being belligerent to him and his staff, before getting dropped as a patient.

The Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment echoes that of the Fifth Amendment.
The Fifth Amendment, however, applies only against the federal government.

When it was adopted, the Clause was understood to mean that the government could deprive a person of rights only according to law applied by a court. Yet since then, the Supreme Court has elaborated significantly on this core understanding. As the examples above suggest, the rights protected under the Fourteenth Amendment can be understood in three categories: (1) “procedural due process;” (2) the individual rights listed in the Bill of Rights, “incorporated” against the states; and (3) “substantive due process.”

Procedural Due Process

“Procedural due process” concerns the procedures that the government must follow before it deprives an individual of life, liberty, or property.
Historically, due process ordinarily entailed a jury trial. The jury determined the facts and the judge enforced the law. In past two centuries, however, states have developed a variety of institutions and procedures for adjudicating disputes. Making room for these innovations, the Court has determined that due process requires, at a minimum: (1) notice; (2) an opportunity to be heard; and (3) an impartial tribunal. Mullane v. Central Hanover Bank (1950).

The law slightly amended the Baker Act, under which law enforcement officials can take someone against their will to a facility for a mental health evaluation if the person is a danger to themselves or others. Authorities can confiscate a person’s guns if they pose a potential danger to themselves or have made a credible threat of violence against another person.

California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Nevada, NEW JERSEY, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, and Washington, have red flag laws.


Florida's legislators moved quickly to pass SB 7026, allowing law enforcement to seek a risk protection order from a judge that would temporarily remove a person’s firearm(s) for up to a year. It also bars those individuals from buying guns during that time.
 

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You want republican's "expunged" for something a small subset of DJT supporters did. BLM has caused much more harm and done a lot more damage, but I don't see you being for "expunging" all democrats. Also, do you need me to bring up Antifa? When it comes to violence the dems are at the forefront.

The plot against the governor of Michigan was done by the Wolverine Watchmen, and below is what the republicans had to say about that.

Of course the traitors are going to say 'Not my people, they are crazy'.

Speaker of the House, Republican Lee Chatfield, responded to the plots against Whitmer by saying violence won't be tolerated.

"Violence has no place in politics. Ever," he tweeted. "It’s never a solution to disagreements. The people who targeted @GovWhitmer and police officers are un-American. Justice should be swift and severe. It’s time to send a message that violence will not be tolerated."

But your party is OK and defends the DC rioters at the capitol, January 6th.

'BLM has caused much more harm and done a lot more damage, but I don't see you being for "expunging" all democrats. Also, do you need me to bring up Antifa? When it comes to violence the dems are at the forefront'.

No, because it isn't relevant, republicans are always trying to compare one incident to justify another incident.

One was about overturning an election.
The other was rioting about a police killing.

That's like comparing the Vietnam protest with the Oklahoma City bombing of the FBI building.
 

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Nope, you run the red flag up, the guy gets checked out, THEN the court decides to take the guns or not. That's the way it should work, not run the red flag up, take the guns, THEN make the guy fight to get his weapons back. Scenario:

A woman escapes an abusive relationship and gets a gun for protection from the predator.
Said predator files to have her gun removed, claiming she's unbalanced and threatened him with it. Heck, that she threatened his dog too.
An anti-gun judge agrees.
Her gun is taken away.
He kills her.

And scene.
See post 132.
 

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You should go live with your act. That is the funniest thing I have ever heard. "Reagan corrupt"...LOL...you slay me. He may be the least corrupt president we have ever had. With the revisionist history the left likes to push, maybe he did something in one of your altered facts articles.
You're too young, brainwashed or delusional, likely, all three.

'He may be the least corrupt president we have ever had'.
Sure he was.

"By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. In terms of number of officials involved, the record of his administration was the worst ever."

The presidency of Ronald Reagan in the United States was marked by numerous scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any president in American history.
 

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Retard?

It is amazing, Democrats always need a boogeyman.

Your lack of intelligence is
displayed nicely
Yes, your orange god is a retard.
By far the dumbest president the US has ever had.
Yes, your party has a boogeyman, the rest of your party was scared to death of his tweets.
 

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Yes, your orange god is a retard.
By far the dumbest president the US has ever had.
Yes, your party has a boogeyman, the rest of your party was scared to death of his tweets.
Monkey see monkey do, you like the boogeyman? That you must steal from me who you don't think much of shows you are certainly the mental midget. I don't see anything original in your insults which shows you suffer from lack of brain activity. You copied everything you said from other people's posts. So pathetic. A real advertisement to join the democrats
 

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Monkey see monkey do, you like the boogeyman? That you must steal from me who you don't think much of shows you are certainly the mental midget. I don't see anything original in your insults which shows you suffer from lack of brain activity. You copied everything you said from other people's posts. So pathetic. A real advertisement to join the democrats
Sure I did, moron.
 

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