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The reason Conservatives lie so much

Smokin' OP

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Could we get some links please? Even the links in your post did not show that, but was standard add in links to Wikipedia. So just assume you cut an pasted someone else's opinion as your own.

I will say he was very popular for a "corrupt president". From one of your links.



1984: He even carried California ;).
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jesuswouldbefurious.org › a_Secular_Issue › Reagan

ventrellaquest.com › tag › reagan-most-corrupt

newsneednews.com › travel › presidents-corrupt

www.inquisitr.com › 6495318 › 5-of-the-most-corrupt

Plus wiki.

 

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Conservative lies: You've heard them all before-

Liberals want to take all our guns away, Liberals want open borders, Liberals never work, Liberals are soft on crime, Liberals just want is "free stuff" Liberals are Socialists, Liberals hate white people, Liberals are destroying our cities with crime and violence. On and on it goes. Here is the cold, hard truth why these lies persist to this day-

Conservatives have nothing better to offer the American people!

Think about it...was the American economy better under Reagan, the Bush's and Trump than that of Clinton, Obama, and Biden? Answer: NO. Was America any safer? Answer: NO Was the crime rate any lower? Answer: NO Was the national debt any smaller? Answer: NO. (Clinton was the last President to record a national surplus) Was the environment any cleaner? Answer: NO Were our children any better educated? Answer: NO. Did our justice system work any better? Answer: NO And the list goes on -

The bottom line is the Conservative agenda has little to offer average Americans, and a great deal to offer the 1%. To make up for this, Conservative America resorts to district gerrymandering, name calling, conspiracy theory's, soundbites such as "deep state" "MSM", as well as deeply questioning the legitimacy of America's 240+ year electoral process to create the impression that "it's all rigged!" When in fact it's really not.

But, Conservatives have nothing better to offer....
In the first place they're not conservatives, they are followers of trump and they are mimicking him and all his lies conspiracy theories. 17% of all Republicans are no longer Republicans in heart and there never were conservatives, these are radical followers of trump. Like a cancer eating at our nation's soul. God help US.
 

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And only complete morons will see 1/6 as an insurrection attempt. You may be right though, the nation has been dumbed down quite a bit.
The majority of the people on 1/6 were not involved in in selection attempt. Hidden among the crowd were elements attempting to do just that. They came prepared, and while trump was egging the crowd on at the White House to cover up what was about to go down: his minion Stone was at the Capitol speaking with the leaders of the Insurrection attempt. If only there was a recording of those conversations, then we'd all know the real truth of it all. Trump has always been a diabolical psychopath, his entire unending campaign was necessary to reinforce all the lies. Simple-minded people are still eating it up and he still hasn't stopped campaigning, gotta keep those lies alive, can't stand on their own.
 

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The majority of the people on 1/6 were not involved in in selection attempt. Hidden among the crowd were elements attempting to do just that. They came prepared, and while trump was egging the crowd on at the White House to cover up what was about to go down: his minion Stone was at the Capitol speaking with the leaders of the Insurrection attempt. If only there was a recording of those conversations, then we'd all know the real truth of it all. Trump has always been a diabolical psychopath, his entire unending campaign was necessary to reinforce all the lies. Simple-minded people are still eating it up and he still hasn't stopped campaigning, gotta keep those lies alive, can't stand on their own.
Insurrection attempt, not selection attempt.
 

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Not sure how you can say that with the winner you and your leftists buddies have put into office. Only the true lemming faithful still think Biden is a good president.
Biden is a welcome change from the tyranny and inept leadership that Trump gave us

Trump has already been declared our worst modern President. History will condemn those gullible enough to elect him

What were they thinking?
 

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Yes, it does, idiot.
That's what a court is for.
No, because all that's required for a person to be deprived of their property is a single judge who decides he/she should. THEN it goes into the courts where the person has to fight to get his/her property back.
 

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No, because all that's required for a person to be deprived of their property is a single judge who decides he/she should. THEN it goes into the courts where the person has to fight to get his/her property back.
No, because all that's required for a person to be deprived of their property is a single judge who decides he/she should. THEN it goes into the courts where the person has to fight to get his/her property back.
Wow, so all it takes is a single judge to approve a warrant, so police can break down your door and search your property too.
All it takes is a single judge to approve a warrant for police to seize your car.
All it takes is a single judge to approve a warrant for police to seize your boat.

That's the way the law works.

'THEN it goes into the courts where the person has to fight to get his/her property back'.
That's what they are there for.
 

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Getting worried about 2022 and 2024 already? Democrats should be worried, their policies suck.

p.s. I like the way the OP lies and then doesn't even bother to post bullshit links to try to prove them.

Their policies suck? No Democratic President has EVER crashed the economy. Even the size of government is SMALLER under Democrats.

Republicans lie because their policies are failures and if they told the truth, no one making less than a million a year would vote for them.

Instead of coming up with policies that people will vote for, Republicans have convinced their voters that the MSM cannot be trusted, so they believe only the lying right wing media, privately owned by billionaires who benefit from Republican policy. It's a circle jerk.

Right wing media tells viewers that the MSM, which has to answer to directors, shareholders and the public is lying, and the lying right wing media is telling the truth. Not only do they get to lie with impunity, but you're convinced the other side are the liars. BONUS!!!

Republicans can continue to lie to their voters with impunity. Right wing media backs them up, and their voters never fact check anything.
 

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Biden is a welcome change from the tyranny and inept leadership that Trump gave us

Trump has already been declared our worst modern President. History will condemn those gullible enough to elect him

What were they thinking?
You better ask those who are paying more and ore to live in a place with a roof over their heads to start.
 

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You better ask those who are paying more and ore to live in a place with a roof over their heads to start.
So what does the price of rent have to do with Biden?
 

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Take a good look at the democrats. Who do you like in 2024, Xiden or Kamala? Good luck with either of those.
Voters in the middle always vote their pocketbook, your 1/6 videos will be seen as desperate, since you have no policies that work.
Trump is a narcissist, but at least he knows how to run the country, democrats don't.

Trump knows how to run the country???? Trump couldn't run a dog fight given 2 angry pit bulls, a sawdust ring, and several hundred guys willing to bet. He'd find a way to fuck it up.

Trump did such a good job of running the country before. He started 7 trade wars, increased the trade deficit by $200 billion, and set the manufacturing sector back 8 years, with his steel and aluminum tariffs. Trump made a big deal about the 40,000 new jobs created in the steel industry, and never said a word about the 200,000 jobs lost in manufacturing due to higher steel prices.



You keep complaining that Democrats were burning down the cities, so you're admitting that under Donald Trump, racial tensions were the worst since the 1960's. Your concession on that one is noted.

Then there's the failure of his covid response, the failure of his immigration policies (see Declaration of Emergency February 2019), the failure of his opioid response - highest level of deaths ever. Increases in gun crime, the ever widening gap between rich and poor, and 8 million Americans falling into poverty, under the Trump Presidency.

The fracturing of NATO, the loss of standing in world leadership in trade, national security, signing over Afghanistan to the Taliban, abandoning the Kurds, letting the Saudi's commit genocide and helping them in Yemen.

The revolving door of staffers, cabinet members, and advisors fired for malfeasance, ethics violations and common criminal behaviour is the largest in US history.

Trump knows how to run the country down. When Trump has sex with a woman, she has to be on top, because Trump only knows how to fuck up.
 

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'No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law'.

Let me help you out.

The 14th Amendment has to do with the US government, not states.

The Privileges or Immunities Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment was part of the amendment proposed by the Joint Committee on Reconstruction.

According to the Supreme Court’s cases, the privileges and immunities that no state shall abridge include only a limited number of legal protections related to distinctively national citizenship as opposed to state citizenship. In the Court’s view, the basic legal rights of the private law, like property, contract, and family relations, are not associated with citizenship of the United States as such. Rather, those rights are associated with state citizenship.

People HAVE due process, it's called a court, moron.




'You don't get a notice'?

Under Florida's "red flag law," courts may issue risk protection orders (RPOs) to prohibit certain individuals (called "respondents") from having any firearms or ammunition because they pose a serious risk of gun violence.
In Florida only law enforcement agencies or officers may file petitions for RPOs.

As soon as a petition is filed, the court must schedule a hearing on the RPO request within 14 days. The respondent must receive a notice about the petition and the hearing as soon as possible. (Fla. Stat. § 790.401(4) (2021).)

Let me help you out..
'No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law'.
Also, you keep posting that you get due process, and even your examples show otherwise. It is not due process if you get your guns taken away first followed your version of due process. The notice is to take place before the punishment, and not after.

About Florida's Red Flag (RPO).
Florida currently has a red flag law on the books called a Risk Protection Order (“RPO”), found in Florida Statute § 790.401. RPOs allow a judge to prohibit the possession or purchase of firearms and ammunition by individuals who pose a significant danger of causing personal injury to themselves or others by possessing firearms or ammunition. In Florida, only law enforcement officers or a law enforcement agency can petition a court for an RPO. The most controversial issue with RPOs is that a law enforcement officer can obtain a temporary RPO without the person subject to the RPO knowing about it. This is known as an “ex parte” order. Once a temporary RPO is issued, law enforcement will seize firearms and ammunition without the individual having the right to contest the seizure at that time.
So, interesting, your guns can be taken away before you get the right to contest the seizure. What would we call that? No due process is what that would be called.
 

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Biden is a welcome change from the tyranny and inept leadership that Trump gave us

Trump has already been declared our worst modern President. History will condemn those gullible enough to elect him

What were they thinking?
That is Biden, not Trump, and that is in 9 months. Trump is a top 3 when it comes to policy (I would put him at 2 behind Reagan). When it comes to big mouth...he definitely wins that one, but unlikable and loud mouth does not mean bad president.
 

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Let me help you out..

Also, you keep posting that you get due process, and even your examples show otherwise. It is not due process if you get your guns taken away first followed your version of due process. The notice is to take place before the punishment, and not after.

About Florida's Red Flag (RPO).

So, interesting, your guns can be taken away before you get the right to contest the seizure. What would we call that? No due process is what that would be called.
you don't know the meaning of due process.
  • Definition of due process. 1: a course of formal proceedings (such as legal proceedings) carried out regularly and in accordance with established rules and principles-called also procedural due process.
 

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That is Biden, not Trump, and that is in 9 months. Trump is a top 3 when it comes to policy (I would put him at 2 behind Reagan). When it comes to big mouth...he definitely wins that one, but unlikable and loud mouth does not mean bad president.
Well there's your opinion... and then there's the opinion of historians...

 

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LOL. Bloggers and anti right wing websites.

Either way, he is the best president we have ever had. That is the reason he dominated the election, re-election, and exit popularity.
The worst, most corrupt president the US has ever had.........................until the orange NYC grifter came along.
Reagan thanks him from the grave.
 

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  • Definition of due process. 1: a course of formal proceedings (such as legal proceedings) carried out regularly and in accordance with established rules and principles-called also procedural due process.
Exactly. Guns taken without due process. Formal proceeding with the accused is done after the seizure.
 

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Well there's your opinion... and then there's the opinion of historians...

Sure it is. Rating a president is always going to be an opinion. You, me or historian. Are these the historians that are continuing to change our history ;).
 

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