The reality of Trump’s economy

Trump has lied over 10,000 times. Now to his credit, Trump is very good at the big lie. You know, the one Goebbels describes:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Trump does this all the time. His claims about the economy is a prime example.

Forget His Boasts; Growth Is Just Average and Well Behind Reagan, Clinton, Even Carter

Donald Trump keeps boasting about what a great economy he should get credited for creating. But his administration’s own reports don’t support his claims, which also don’t come close to what he promised voters.

His results so far have been, well, just average.

As if it were a stellar achievement, Trump boasted last week, the economy grew at an annual rate of 3.2% in the first three months of this year. Big deal. That’s precisely the average since 1947.


Candidate Trump boasted many times that he would boost economic growth. In October 2015, he said: “I actually think we can go higher than 4 percent. I think you can go to 5 percent or 6 percent.”

So far, the best he has done is 4.2% in the second quarter of 2018.

Obama’s quarterly economic growth rate beat Trump’s best four times, George W. Bush five times, Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan 13 times each. One-term president Jimmy Carter beat Trump six times and one-termer George H. W. Bush did it five times.

Carter’s best, by the way, was 16.4% growth, four times Trump’s best so far.


Trump’s last budget is projected to run a deficit almost 1.5 times the size of Obama’s last budget deficit according to the Trump administration’s own data, known as Historical Table 1.3.

Trump’s average annual budget deficit over four years will be the worst of any president from Carter through George W. Bush.

The average Trump shortfall will be 4.6% of the economy.

Obama’s was about the same as Trump at 5% of the economy, mostly because of the Great Recession that he inherited. In his second term, Obama’s budget shortfall was less than 2.5% of the economy.

The cost to you of Trump’s borrow-and-spend approach? Instead of retiring the federal debt in eight years, as Trump told voters he could easily do because he was “the king of debt,” the federal debt is growing at the rate of $30 per day for a family of four. That’s almost $11,000 per year for that family.

Trump’s borrow-and-spend, however, has failed to stimulate faster jobs creation.

Under Trump, job growth is slower than under Obama. Trump’s average is 198,000 more jobs per month. That’s good, but far from great.

Obama, during his last six years and a month, averaged 204,000 more jobs each month.


Trump promised if elected the nation would add 25 million new jobs in 10 years. He’s on track to fall more than a million jobs short of that goal.

That goal was nothing to brag about, either. Before Trump started making campaign promises the projections of future job growth were about what Trump sold as a miracle waiting for him to make it happen.

The reality is that Trump’s economic performance, measured by his own administration, is merely average.

Why Trump Gets a 'C' on the Economy | DCReport.org


You are just Butt Hurt...….

Turn off cnn and msnbctard and then Pull your head out of your ass...

We are in one of the best economies ever....

Only the dumbest of the dumbest Tards can’t prosper from the genius of TRUMP......

Only the dumbest of the dumbest believe what you just said.


You Tards will be Tards…………..

Since Reagan gave us record deficits and Bush 2 turned a surplus into a depression, I think when we talk of "tards", we begin and end with conservatives.


Nope you are the Tards because you believed obozo

when he said this is the new normal and........

“whots” Trump “goni” do?

Wave his magic wand?

Trump shoved that MAGIC WAND up obozo’s ASS.....

Drop the MIC you Tard POS.
 
Wanna know what makes the OP's thread moot?

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I don't think there is person out there that was working during the 2008-2012 period that would claim that economy was superior to the one we have now. We can argue about who fixed it. But, there is no comparison.

There is no argument about who fixed it. Just like there is no argument as to the fact that republican policy damn near killed our economy. And Trump is doing the same things that created the depression. Our economy today is not better because of Trump.

Just like there is no argument as to the fact that republican policy damn near killed our economy.

Sounds serious!
Which policies? Post a list.
 
Trump has lied over 10,000 times. Now to his credit, Trump is very good at the big lie. You know, the one Goebbels describes:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Trump does this all the time. His claims about the economy is a prime example.

Forget His Boasts; Growth Is Just Average and Well Behind Reagan, Clinton, Even Carter

Donald Trump keeps boasting about what a great economy he should get credited for creating. But his administration’s own reports don’t support his claims, which also don’t come close to what he promised voters.

His results so far have been, well, just average.

As if it were a stellar achievement, Trump boasted last week, the economy grew at an annual rate of 3.2% in the first three months of this year. Big deal. That’s precisely the average since 1947.


Candidate Trump boasted many times that he would boost economic growth. In October 2015, he said: “I actually think we can go higher than 4 percent. I think you can go to 5 percent or 6 percent.”

So far, the best he has done is 4.2% in the second quarter of 2018.

Obama’s quarterly economic growth rate beat Trump’s best four times, George W. Bush five times, Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan 13 times each. One-term president Jimmy Carter beat Trump six times and one-termer George H. W. Bush did it five times.

Carter’s best, by the way, was 16.4% growth, four times Trump’s best so far.


Trump’s last budget is projected to run a deficit almost 1.5 times the size of Obama’s last budget deficit according to the Trump administration’s own data, known as Historical Table 1.3.

Trump’s average annual budget deficit over four years will be the worst of any president from Carter through George W. Bush.

The average Trump shortfall will be 4.6% of the economy.

Obama’s was about the same as Trump at 5% of the economy, mostly because of the Great Recession that he inherited. In his second term, Obama’s budget shortfall was less than 2.5% of the economy.

The cost to you of Trump’s borrow-and-spend approach? Instead of retiring the federal debt in eight years, as Trump told voters he could easily do because he was “the king of debt,” the federal debt is growing at the rate of $30 per day for a family of four. That’s almost $11,000 per year for that family.

Trump’s borrow-and-spend, however, has failed to stimulate faster jobs creation.

Under Trump, job growth is slower than under Obama. Trump’s average is 198,000 more jobs per month. That’s good, but far from great.

Obama, during his last six years and a month, averaged 204,000 more jobs each month.


Trump promised if elected the nation would add 25 million new jobs in 10 years. He’s on track to fall more than a million jobs short of that goal.

That goal was nothing to brag about, either. Before Trump started making campaign promises the projections of future job growth were about what Trump sold as a miracle waiting for him to make it happen.

The reality is that Trump’s economic performance, measured by his own administration, is merely average.

Why Trump Gets a 'C' on the Economy | DCReport.org

.... and Obama admitted American defeat when he said the manufacturing jobs were not coming back. What other American President ever admitted such defeat? Check what happened to American manufacturing jobs under Trump compared to Obama?

More than 7 years of consecutive job growth is what happened under Obama. Doesn't look like admitting defeat to me.

That is not a retort to Obama admitting defeat.
 
Meanwhile two key economic measures used for decades to judge economic optimism, one national one global show Trump achieving historic highs. Levels Obama could only dream of. Ouch that's gonna leave a mark libs :auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg:

Not really. Your denials are expected.

Those studies were posted, Trump crushed Obama and nearly all previous presidents. Facts vs your horse shit.

Economic optimism is not economic fact. Understand?
Economic facts

Inflation is in check
Company earnings for first quarter better than expected

Unemployment is low
Wages are on the rise

Productivity rose in first quarter of 2019
Manufacturing rose in first quarter of 2019
March jobless rates down in 267 of 389 metro areas
U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Understand?

The OP explains all the facts.

Understand?

Trump inherited record growth.

Understand?

Trump inherited full employment.

Understand?

Trump inherited a record stock market that had been rising for more than 7 years before Trump.

Understand?

Inflation is not in check. We face trillion dollar deficits. The tax cuts did not do what Trump said. He is creating fewer jobs than Obama, in my state and others surrounding us, his trade wars are killing farmers. He's talking about a 2 trillion dollar infrastructure plan. Revenue will be down 10 percent because of tax cuts. How will this be paid for? If this is not started this year, it's going to cost more. The reality here is that we are headed for trouble.

Understand?

Obama inherited a depression, the economy did not decline because of overregulation. You republicans have shown that your economic policies always fail. Yet you keep repeating the same failed formula. Once again Trump gave huge tax breaks to the rich. It did not correspond to increases in jobs or annual GDP of between 4-6 percent as he claimed would happen. So keep talking stupid just like you did during GW Bush.

Understand?
Are you an idiot? You stated this, IM2:

"Economic optimism is not economic fact. Understand?"

Whether you understand it or not, I showed you that it IS NOT optimism,
I showed you that it's an economic fact.
In other words, I handed you your ass. Now run along, child.
 
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Trump has lied over 10,000 times. Now to his credit, Trump is very good at the big lie. You know, the one Goebbels describes:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Trump does this all the time. His claims about the economy is a prime example.

Forget His Boasts; Growth Is Just Average and Well Behind Reagan, Clinton, Even Carter

Donald Trump keeps boasting about what a great economy he should get credited for creating. But his administration’s own reports don’t support his claims, which also don’t come close to what he promised voters.

His results so far have been, well, just average.

As if it were a stellar achievement, Trump boasted last week, the economy grew at an annual rate of 3.2% in the first three months of this year. Big deal. That’s precisely the average since 1947.


Candidate Trump boasted many times that he would boost economic growth. In October 2015, he said: “I actually think we can go higher than 4 percent. I think you can go to 5 percent or 6 percent.”

So far, the best he has done is 4.2% in the second quarter of 2018.

Obama’s quarterly economic growth rate beat Trump’s best four times, George W. Bush five times, Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan 13 times each. One-term president Jimmy Carter beat Trump six times and one-termer George H. W. Bush did it five times.

Carter’s best, by the way, was 16.4% growth, four times Trump’s best so far.


Trump’s last budget is projected to run a deficit almost 1.5 times the size of Obama’s last budget deficit according to the Trump administration’s own data, known as Historical Table 1.3.

Trump’s average annual budget deficit over four years will be the worst of any president from Carter through George W. Bush.

The average Trump shortfall will be 4.6% of the economy.

Obama’s was about the same as Trump at 5% of the economy, mostly because of the Great Recession that he inherited. In his second term, Obama’s budget shortfall was less than 2.5% of the economy.

The cost to you of Trump’s borrow-and-spend approach? Instead of retiring the federal debt in eight years, as Trump told voters he could easily do because he was “the king of debt,” the federal debt is growing at the rate of $30 per day for a family of four. That’s almost $11,000 per year for that family.

Trump’s borrow-and-spend, however, has failed to stimulate faster jobs creation.

Under Trump, job growth is slower than under Obama. Trump’s average is 198,000 more jobs per month. That’s good, but far from great.

Obama, during his last six years and a month, averaged 204,000 more jobs each month.


Trump promised if elected the nation would add 25 million new jobs in 10 years. He’s on track to fall more than a million jobs short of that goal.

That goal was nothing to brag about, either. Before Trump started making campaign promises the projections of future job growth were about what Trump sold as a miracle waiting for him to make it happen.

The reality is that Trump’s economic performance, measured by his own administration, is merely average.

Why Trump Gets a 'C' on the Economy | DCReport.org

WTF, isn't this thread about Trump's economy?
 
Not really. Your denials are expected.

Those studies were posted, Trump crushed Obama and nearly all previous presidents. Facts vs your horse shit.

Economic optimism is not economic fact. Understand?
Economic facts

Inflation is in check
Company earnings for first quarter better than expected

Unemployment is low
Wages are on the rise

Productivity rose in first quarter of 2019
Manufacturing rose in first quarter of 2019
March jobless rates down in 267 of 389 metro areas
U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Understand?

The OP explains all the facts.

Understand?

Trump inherited record growth.

Understand?

Trump inherited full employment.

Understand?

Trump inherited a record stock market that had been rising for more than 7 years before Trump.

Understand?

Inflation is not in check. We face trillion dollar deficits. The tax cuts did not do what Trump said. He is creating fewer jobs than Obama, in my state and others surrounding us, his trade wars are killing farmers. He's talking about a 2 trillion dollar infrastructure plan. Revenue will be down 10 percent because of tax cuts. How will this be paid for? If this is not started this year, it's going to cost more. The reality here is that we are headed for trouble.

Understand?

Obama inherited a depression, the economy did not decline because of overregulation. You republicans have shown that your economic policies always fail. Yet you keep repeating the same failed formula. Once again Trump gave huge tax breaks to the rich. It did not correspond to increases in jobs or annual GDP of between 4-6 percent as he claimed would happen. So keep talking stupid just like you did during GW Bush.

Understand?
Are you an idiot? You stated this, IM2:

"Economic optimism is not economic fact. Understand?"

Whether you understand it or not, I showed you that it IS NOT optimism,
I showed you that it's an economic fact.
In other words, I handed you your ass. Now run along, child.

The OP shows the facts.

You lost before you started.

Now run along, child.
 
Those studies were posted, Trump crushed Obama and nearly all previous presidents. Facts vs your horse shit.

Economic optimism is not economic fact. Understand?
Economic facts

Inflation is in check
Company earnings for first quarter better than expected

Unemployment is low
Wages are on the rise

Productivity rose in first quarter of 2019
Manufacturing rose in first quarter of 2019
March jobless rates down in 267 of 389 metro areas
U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Understand?

The OP explains all the facts.

Understand?

Trump inherited record growth.

Understand?

Trump inherited full employment.

Understand?

Trump inherited a record stock market that had been rising for more than 7 years before Trump.

Understand?

Inflation is not in check. We face trillion dollar deficits. The tax cuts did not do what Trump said. He is creating fewer jobs than Obama, in my state and others surrounding us, his trade wars are killing farmers. He's talking about a 2 trillion dollar infrastructure plan. Revenue will be down 10 percent because of tax cuts. How will this be paid for? If this is not started this year, it's going to cost more. The reality here is that we are headed for trouble.

Understand?

Obama inherited a depression, the economy did not decline because of overregulation. You republicans have shown that your economic policies always fail. Yet you keep repeating the same failed formula. Once again Trump gave huge tax breaks to the rich. It did not correspond to increases in jobs or annual GDP of between 4-6 percent as he claimed would happen. So keep talking stupid just like you did during GW Bush.

Understand?
Are you an idiot? You stated this, IM2:

"Economic optimism is not economic fact. Understand?"

Whether you understand it or not, I showed you that it IS NOT optimism,
I showed you that it's an economic fact.
In other words, I handed you your ass. Now run along, child.

The OP shows the facts.

You lost before you started.

Now run along, child.
You're the one that is lying and I showed you where you lied.
Sometimes when you have your ass handed to you like it was, it's just better to
remain silent and not look like a fool.
 
Economic optimism is not economic fact. Understand?
Economic facts

Inflation is in check
Company earnings for first quarter better than expected

Unemployment is low
Wages are on the rise

Productivity rose in first quarter of 2019
Manufacturing rose in first quarter of 2019
March jobless rates down in 267 of 389 metro areas
U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Understand?

The OP explains all the facts.

Understand?

Trump inherited record growth.

Understand?

Trump inherited full employment.

Understand?

Trump inherited a record stock market that had been rising for more than 7 years before Trump.

Understand?

Inflation is not in check. We face trillion dollar deficits. The tax cuts did not do what Trump said. He is creating fewer jobs than Obama, in my state and others surrounding us, his trade wars are killing farmers. He's talking about a 2 trillion dollar infrastructure plan. Revenue will be down 10 percent because of tax cuts. How will this be paid for? If this is not started this year, it's going to cost more. The reality here is that we are headed for trouble.

Understand?

Obama inherited a depression, the economy did not decline because of overregulation. You republicans have shown that your economic policies always fail. Yet you keep repeating the same failed formula. Once again Trump gave huge tax breaks to the rich. It did not correspond to increases in jobs or annual GDP of between 4-6 percent as he claimed would happen. So keep talking stupid just like you did during GW Bush.

Understand?
Are you an idiot? You stated this, IM2:

"Economic optimism is not economic fact. Understand?"

Whether you understand it or not, I showed you that it IS NOT optimism,
I showed you that it's an economic fact.
In other words, I handed you your ass. Now run along, child.

The OP shows the facts.

You lost before you started.

Now run along, child.
You're the one that is lying and I showed you where you lied.
Sometimes when you have your ass handed to you like it was, it's just better to
remain silent and not look like a fool.

Then you should be quiet. I am the OP and nothing you have posted refutes what was in the OP.

As if it were a stellar achievement, Trump boasted last week, the economy grew at an annual rate of 3.2% in the first three months of this year. Big deal. That’s precisely the average since 1947.

Obama’s quarterly economic growth rate beat Trump’s best four times, George W. Bush five times, Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan 13 times each. One-term president Jimmy Carter beat Trump six times and one-termer George H. W. Bush did it five times.

Carter’s best, by the way, was 16.4% growth, four times Trump’s best so far.

Fact.

With solid backing from Republicans in Congress, Trump is borrowing extra trillions of dollars in our name. That’s a classic type of economic stimulus.

Republicans traditionally denounced borrow-and-spend as a tax on our children and grandchildren. A tax cut, like Trump’s, that does not pay for itself with equal or increased revenue, is just a tax increase deferred into the future – with interest.

Tax revenues this year are down about 10%.

The Trump/radical GOP tax cut that took effect last year mostly benefits the rich and corporations. That means the cost of the borrowing is an obligation we all must bear, but the benefits flow mostly to those who need help the least.

Trump’s last budget is projected to run a deficit almost 1.5 times the size of Obama’s last budget deficit according to the Trump administration’s own data, known as Historical Table 1.3.

Fact.

The average Trump shortfall will be 4.6% of the economy.

Obama’s was about the same as Trump at 5% of the economy, mostly because of the Great Recession that he inherited. In his second term, Obama’s budget shortfall was less than 2.5% of the economy.

George W. Bush came in at 3.3%. Clinton’s annual deficit was a mere 0.1% because he ran surpluses in his second term.

The cost to you of Trump’s borrow-and-spend approach? Instead of retiring the federal debt in eight years, as Trump told voters he could easily do because he was “the king of debt,” the federal debt is growing at the rate of $30 per day for a family of four. That’s almost $11,000 per year for that family.

Fact.

Trump’s borrow-and-spend, however, has failed to stimulate faster jobs creation.

Under Trump, job growth is slower than under Obama. Trump’s average is 198,000 more jobs per month. That’s good, but far from great.

Obama, during his last six years and a month, averaged 204,000 more jobs each month.

Fact.

Now run along, child.

Why Trump Gets a 'C' on the Economy | DCReport.org
 
Trump has lied over 10,000 times. Now to his credit, Trump is very good at the big lie. You know, the one Goebbels describes:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Trump does this all the time. His claims about the economy is a prime example.

Forget His Boasts; Growth Is Just Average and Well Behind Reagan, Clinton, Even Carter

Donald Trump keeps boasting about what a great economy he should get credited for creating. But his administration’s own reports don’t support his claims, which also don’t come close to what he promised voters.

His results so far have been, well, just average.

As if it were a stellar achievement, Trump boasted last week, the economy grew at an annual rate of 3.2% in the first three months of this year. Big deal. That’s precisely the average since 1947.


Candidate Trump boasted many times that he would boost economic growth. In October 2015, he said: “I actually think we can go higher than 4 percent. I think you can go to 5 percent or 6 percent.”

So far, the best he has done is 4.2% in the second quarter of 2018.

Obama’s quarterly economic growth rate beat Trump’s best four times, George W. Bush five times, Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan 13 times each. One-term president Jimmy Carter beat Trump six times and one-termer George H. W. Bush did it five times.

Carter’s best, by the way, was 16.4% growth, four times Trump’s best so far.


Trump’s last budget is projected to run a deficit almost 1.5 times the size of Obama’s last budget deficit according to the Trump administration’s own data, known as Historical Table 1.3.

Trump’s average annual budget deficit over four years will be the worst of any president from Carter through George W. Bush.

The average Trump shortfall will be 4.6% of the economy.

Obama’s was about the same as Trump at 5% of the economy, mostly because of the Great Recession that he inherited. In his second term, Obama’s budget shortfall was less than 2.5% of the economy.

The cost to you of Trump’s borrow-and-spend approach? Instead of retiring the federal debt in eight years, as Trump told voters he could easily do because he was “the king of debt,” the federal debt is growing at the rate of $30 per day for a family of four. That’s almost $11,000 per year for that family.

Trump’s borrow-and-spend, however, has failed to stimulate faster jobs creation.

Under Trump, job growth is slower than under Obama. Trump’s average is 198,000 more jobs per month. That’s good, but far from great.

Obama, during his last six years and a month, averaged 204,000 more jobs each month.


Trump promised if elected the nation would add 25 million new jobs in 10 years. He’s on track to fall more than a million jobs short of that goal.

That goal was nothing to brag about, either. Before Trump started making campaign promises the projections of future job growth were about what Trump sold as a miracle waiting for him to make it happen.

The reality is that Trump’s economic performance, measured by his own administration, is merely average.

Why Trump Gets a 'C' on the Economy | DCReport.org


You are just Butt Hurt...….

Turn off cnn and msnbctard and then Pull your head out of your ass...

We are in one of the best economies ever....

Only the dumbest of the dumbest Tards can’t prosper from the genius of TRUMP......

Only the dumbest of the dumbest believe what you just said.


You Tards will be Tards…………..

Since Reagan gave us record deficits and Bush 2 turned a surplus into a depression, I think when we talk of "tards", we begin and end with conservatives.


Nope you are the Tards because you believed obozo

when he said this is the new normal and........

“whots” Trump “goni” do?

Wave his magic wand?

Trump shoved that MAGIC WAND up obozo’s ASS.....

Drop the MIC you Tard POS.

Trump had no wand. He's done nothing. That is the truth. Now whether or not you accept the truth is not my problem.
 
You are just Butt Hurt...….

Turn off cnn and msnbctard and then Pull your head out of your ass...

We are in one of the best economies ever....

Only the dumbest of the dumbest Tards can’t prosper from the genius of TRUMP......

Only the dumbest of the dumbest believe what you just said.


You Tards will be Tards…………..

Since Reagan gave us record deficits and Bush 2 turned a surplus into a depression, I think when we talk of "tards", we begin and end with conservatives.


Nope you are the Tards because you believed obozo

when he said this is the new normal and........

“whots” Trump “goni” do?

Wave his magic wand?

Trump shoved that MAGIC WAND up obozo’s ASS.....

Drop the MIC you Tard POS.

Trump had no wand. He's done nothing. That is the truth. Now whether or not you accept the truth is not my problem.


You Tards are delousional…….

Trump has proved all you Tards and obozo to be fools...

But then again what should we expect from TARDS

and a community organizer that was elected because

of the color of his skin...

obozo never ran anything but his mouth....

If obozo were White we wouldn’t know his name....
 
Those studies were posted, Trump crushed Obama and nearly all previous presidents. Facts vs your horse shit.

Economic optimism is not economic fact. Understand?
Economic facts

Inflation is in check
Company earnings for first quarter better than expected

Unemployment is low
Wages are on the rise

Productivity rose in first quarter of 2019
Manufacturing rose in first quarter of 2019
March jobless rates down in 267 of 389 metro areas
U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Understand?

The OP explains all the facts.

Understand?

Trump inherited record growth.

Understand?

Trump inherited full employment.

Understand?

Trump inherited a record stock market that had been rising for more than 7 years before Trump.

Understand?

Inflation is not in check. We face trillion dollar deficits. The tax cuts did not do what Trump said. He is creating fewer jobs than Obama, in my state and others surrounding us, his trade wars are killing farmers. He's talking about a 2 trillion dollar infrastructure plan. Revenue will be down 10 percent because of tax cuts. How will this be paid for? If this is not started this year, it's going to cost more. The reality here is that we are headed for trouble.

Understand?

Obama inherited a depression, the economy did not decline because of overregulation. You republicans have shown that your economic policies always fail. Yet you keep repeating the same failed formula. Once again Trump gave huge tax breaks to the rich. It did not correspond to increases in jobs or annual GDP of between 4-6 percent as he claimed would happen. So keep talking stupid just like you did during GW Bush.

Understand?

Just wondering, were you in the workforce during the 2008-2012 period?

Were you?

Obama inherited a depression when he took office on 1-20-09. And instead of understanding that, you idiots blamed Obama for causing an economic downturn when the downturn was there when he took office. You give him no credit for turning things around because of the problem you have, then give Trump credit for turning around the economy he inherited that was turned around by Obama.

Then you ask me this dumb ass question like the lie you've been telling yourself is true. The economy has grown little under Trump. He runs his mouth about record low black unemployment and your dumb ass believes that Trump miraculously set a record. Black unemployment had been dropping for years under Obama and dropped 9 percent during his term. 3 years into Trump it dropped 1 percent. It's an all time low, but not because of Trump.

So where you even living in America between 1-20-2009 through 1-20-2017?

In the workforce since 1991.
 
Posted them, and they were reported by a major news organization. Its not my fault you people are ignorant and uninformed.

What the fuck are you even talking about? you have not posted shit.

You are ignorant of the facts I have posted and what has been widely reported in the news. I would provide you with a link so you can catch up with those of us who arrive to these discussions informed but most of you people choose ignorance when the facts are placed at your feet because they conflict with your propaganda.

you not not posted a single fact or a link in this thread. Are you speaking of another thread?

Do you have learning disabilities? Here let me demonstrate your ignorance. CEO confidence at near-record high. Why? Trump's war on regulation

Oh look a link, why did it take you so long?

And why are you posting a 2 year old story? A lot has changed since then


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I enjoy toying with you ignorant uninformed leftists, then I destroy you with a link. Run and hide.
 
What the fuck are you even talking about? you have not posted shit.

You are ignorant of the facts I have posted and what has been widely reported in the news. I would provide you with a link so you can catch up with those of us who arrive to these discussions informed but most of you people choose ignorance when the facts are placed at your feet because they conflict with your propaganda.

you not not posted a single fact or a link in this thread. Are you speaking of another thread?

Do you have learning disabilities? Here let me demonstrate your ignorance. CEO confidence at near-record high. Why? Trump's war on regulation

Oh look a link, why did it take you so long?

And why are you posting a 2 year old story? A lot has changed since then


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I enjoy toying with you ignorant uninformed leftists, then I destroy you with a link. Run and hide.

just admit you did not know the article was 2 years old, we all know the truth already
 
Trump has lied over 10,000 times. Now to his credit, Trump is very good at the big lie. You know, the one Goebbels describes:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Trump does this all the time. His claims about the economy is a prime example.

Forget His Boasts; Growth Is Just Average and Well Behind Reagan, Clinton, Even Carter

Donald Trump keeps boasting about what a great economy he should get credited for creating. But his administration’s own reports don’t support his claims, which also don’t come close to what he promised voters.

His results so far have been, well, just average.

As if it were a stellar achievement, Trump boasted last week, the economy grew at an annual rate of 3.2% in the first three months of this year. Big deal. That’s precisely the average since 1947.


Candidate Trump boasted many times that he would boost economic growth. In October 2015, he said: “I actually think we can go higher than 4 percent. I think you can go to 5 percent or 6 percent.”

So far, the best he has done is 4.2% in the second quarter of 2018.

Obama’s quarterly economic growth rate beat Trump’s best four times, George W. Bush five times, Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan 13 times each. One-term president Jimmy Carter beat Trump six times and one-termer George H. W. Bush did it five times.

Carter’s best, by the way, was 16.4% growth, four times Trump’s best so far.


Trump’s last budget is projected to run a deficit almost 1.5 times the size of Obama’s last budget deficit according to the Trump administration’s own data, known as Historical Table 1.3.

Trump’s average annual budget deficit over four years will be the worst of any president from Carter through George W. Bush.

The average Trump shortfall will be 4.6% of the economy.

Obama’s was about the same as Trump at 5% of the economy, mostly because of the Great Recession that he inherited. In his second term, Obama’s budget shortfall was less than 2.5% of the economy.

The cost to you of Trump’s borrow-and-spend approach? Instead of retiring the federal debt in eight years, as Trump told voters he could easily do because he was “the king of debt,” the federal debt is growing at the rate of $30 per day for a family of four. That’s almost $11,000 per year for that family.

Trump’s borrow-and-spend, however, has failed to stimulate faster jobs creation.

Under Trump, job growth is slower than under Obama. Trump’s average is 198,000 more jobs per month. That’s good, but far from great.

Obama, during his last six years and a month, averaged 204,000 more jobs each month.


Trump promised if elected the nation would add 25 million new jobs in 10 years. He’s on track to fall more than a million jobs short of that goal.

That goal was nothing to brag about, either. Before Trump started making campaign promises the projections of future job growth were about what Trump sold as a miracle waiting for him to make it happen.

The reality is that Trump’s economic performance, measured by his own administration, is merely average.

Why Trump Gets a 'C' on the Economy | DCReport.org


I hear the libs whining about the national debt, but I don't hear any VIABLE plans to reduce spending and get the budget back in order. President Trump would love to get rid of the Wasteful O'care Program and replace it with a Tremendous Health Care Program which will save a shit load of money and provide truly outstanding care to the people. The deficit would definitely go down under the Trump Plan.
 
Trump has lied over 10,000 times. Now to his credit, Trump is very good at the big lie. You know, the one Goebbels describes:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Trump does this all the time. His claims about the economy is a prime example.

Forget His Boasts; Growth Is Just Average and Well Behind Reagan, Clinton, Even Carter

Donald Trump keeps boasting about what a great economy he should get credited for creating. But his administration’s own reports don’t support his claims, which also don’t come close to what he promised voters.

His results so far have been, well, just average.

As if it were a stellar achievement, Trump boasted last week, the economy grew at an annual rate of 3.2% in the first three months of this year. Big deal. That’s precisely the average since 1947.


Candidate Trump boasted many times that he would boost economic growth. In October 2015, he said: “I actually think we can go higher than 4 percent. I think you can go to 5 percent or 6 percent.”

So far, the best he has done is 4.2% in the second quarter of 2018.

Obama’s quarterly economic growth rate beat Trump’s best four times, George W. Bush five times, Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan 13 times each. One-term president Jimmy Carter beat Trump six times and one-termer George H. W. Bush did it five times.

Carter’s best, by the way, was 16.4% growth, four times Trump’s best so far.


Trump’s last budget is projected to run a deficit almost 1.5 times the size of Obama’s last budget deficit according to the Trump administration’s own data, known as Historical Table 1.3.

Trump’s average annual budget deficit over four years will be the worst of any president from Carter through George W. Bush.

The average Trump shortfall will be 4.6% of the economy.

Obama’s was about the same as Trump at 5% of the economy, mostly because of the Great Recession that he inherited. In his second term, Obama’s budget shortfall was less than 2.5% of the economy.

The cost to you of Trump’s borrow-and-spend approach? Instead of retiring the federal debt in eight years, as Trump told voters he could easily do because he was “the king of debt,” the federal debt is growing at the rate of $30 per day for a family of four. That’s almost $11,000 per year for that family.

Trump’s borrow-and-spend, however, has failed to stimulate faster jobs creation.

Under Trump, job growth is slower than under Obama. Trump’s average is 198,000 more jobs per month. That’s good, but far from great.

Obama, during his last six years and a month, averaged 204,000 more jobs each month.


Trump promised if elected the nation would add 25 million new jobs in 10 years. He’s on track to fall more than a million jobs short of that goal.

That goal was nothing to brag about, either. Before Trump started making campaign promises the projections of future job growth were about what Trump sold as a miracle waiting for him to make it happen.

The reality is that Trump’s economic performance, measured by his own administration, is merely average.

Why Trump Gets a 'C' on the Economy | DCReport.org
The reality of Trumps economy is people are doing well. Some of us are doing better than we have in decades.

No amount of drivel you can fathom will override that if this trend continues.
 
Trump has lied over 10,000 times. Now to his credit, Trump is very good at the big lie. You know, the one Goebbels describes:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Trump does this all the time. His claims about the economy is a prime example.

Forget His Boasts; Growth Is Just Average and Well Behind Reagan, Clinton, Even Carter

Donald Trump keeps boasting about what a great economy he should get credited for creating. But his administration’s own reports don’t support his claims, which also don’t come close to what he promised voters.

His results so far have been, well, just average.

As if it were a stellar achievement, Trump boasted last week, the economy grew at an annual rate of 3.2% in the first three months of this year. Big deal. That’s precisely the average since 1947.


Candidate Trump boasted many times that he would boost economic growth. In October 2015, he said: “I actually think we can go higher than 4 percent. I think you can go to 5 percent or 6 percent.”

So far, the best he has done is 4.2% in the second quarter of 2018.

Obama’s quarterly economic growth rate beat Trump’s best four times, George W. Bush five times, Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan 13 times each. One-term president Jimmy Carter beat Trump six times and one-termer George H. W. Bush did it five times.

Carter’s best, by the way, was 16.4% growth, four times Trump’s best so far.


Trump’s last budget is projected to run a deficit almost 1.5 times the size of Obama’s last budget deficit according to the Trump administration’s own data, known as Historical Table 1.3.

Trump’s average annual budget deficit over four years will be the worst of any president from Carter through George W. Bush.

The average Trump shortfall will be 4.6% of the economy.

Obama’s was about the same as Trump at 5% of the economy, mostly because of the Great Recession that he inherited. In his second term, Obama’s budget shortfall was less than 2.5% of the economy.

The cost to you of Trump’s borrow-and-spend approach? Instead of retiring the federal debt in eight years, as Trump told voters he could easily do because he was “the king of debt,” the federal debt is growing at the rate of $30 per day for a family of four. That’s almost $11,000 per year for that family.

Trump’s borrow-and-spend, however, has failed to stimulate faster jobs creation.

Under Trump, job growth is slower than under Obama. Trump’s average is 198,000 more jobs per month. That’s good, but far from great.

Obama, during his last six years and a month, averaged 204,000 more jobs each month.


Trump promised if elected the nation would add 25 million new jobs in 10 years. He’s on track to fall more than a million jobs short of that goal.

That goal was nothing to brag about, either. Before Trump started making campaign promises the projections of future job growth were about what Trump sold as a miracle waiting for him to make it happen.

The reality is that Trump’s economic performance, measured by his own administration, is merely average.

Why Trump Gets a 'C' on the Economy | DCReport.org
The reality of Trumps economy is people are doing well. Some of us are doing better than we have in decades.

No amount of drivel you can fathom will override that if this trend continues.


I achieved Millionaire Status because of Trumponomics. And President Trump did it with his outstanding policy of Peace as well, the Pax Trumpiana.

The Democrats will have difficulty next year. I think that President Trump's policies of Peace as well as Prosperity, will prove popular with the electorate. Convincing the people to elect a phony mexican or phony squaw, or that broad who slept her way to the top, and bring back Economic Malaise and War, is going to be a really tough sell.
 
Economic facts

Inflation is in check
Company earnings for first quarter better than expected

Unemployment is low
Wages are on the rise

Productivity rose in first quarter of 2019
Manufacturing rose in first quarter of 2019
March jobless rates down in 267 of 389 metro areas
U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Understand?

The OP explains all the facts.

Understand?

Trump inherited record growth.

Understand?

Trump inherited full employment.

Understand?

Trump inherited a record stock market that had been rising for more than 7 years before Trump.

Understand?

Inflation is not in check. We face trillion dollar deficits. The tax cuts did not do what Trump said. He is creating fewer jobs than Obama, in my state and others surrounding us, his trade wars are killing farmers. He's talking about a 2 trillion dollar infrastructure plan. Revenue will be down 10 percent because of tax cuts. How will this be paid for? If this is not started this year, it's going to cost more. The reality here is that we are headed for trouble.

Understand?

Obama inherited a depression, the economy did not decline because of overregulation. You republicans have shown that your economic policies always fail. Yet you keep repeating the same failed formula. Once again Trump gave huge tax breaks to the rich. It did not correspond to increases in jobs or annual GDP of between 4-6 percent as he claimed would happen. So keep talking stupid just like you did during GW Bush.

Understand?
Are you an idiot? You stated this, IM2:

"Economic optimism is not economic fact. Understand?"

Whether you understand it or not, I showed you that it IS NOT optimism,
I showed you that it's an economic fact.
In other words, I handed you your ass. Now run along, child.

The OP shows the facts.

You lost before you started.

Now run along, child.
You're the one that is lying and I showed you where you lied.
Sometimes when you have your ass handed to you like it was, it's just better to
remain silent and not look like a fool.

Then you should be quiet. I am the OP and nothing you have posted refutes what was in the OP.

As if it were a stellar achievement, Trump boasted last week, the economy grew at an annual rate of 3.2% in the first three months of this year. Big deal. That’s precisely the average since 1947.

Obama’s quarterly economic growth rate beat Trump’s best four times, George W. Bush five times, Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan 13 times each. One-term president Jimmy Carter beat Trump six times and one-termer George H. W. Bush did it five times.

Carter’s best, by the way, was 16.4% growth, four times Trump’s best so far.

Fact.

With solid backing from Republicans in Congress, Trump is borrowing extra trillions of dollars in our name. That’s a classic type of economic stimulus.

Republicans traditionally denounced borrow-and-spend as a tax on our children and grandchildren. A tax cut, like Trump’s, that does not pay for itself with equal or increased revenue, is just a tax increase deferred into the future – with interest.

Tax revenues this year are down about 10%.

The Trump/radical GOP tax cut that took effect last year mostly benefits the rich and corporations. That means the cost of the borrowing is an obligation we all must bear, but the benefits flow mostly to those who need help the least.

Trump’s last budget is projected to run a deficit almost 1.5 times the size of Obama’s last budget deficit according to the Trump administration’s own data, known as Historical Table 1.3.

Fact.

The average Trump shortfall will be 4.6% of the economy.

Obama’s was about the same as Trump at 5% of the economy, mostly because of the Great Recession that he inherited. In his second term, Obama’s budget shortfall was less than 2.5% of the economy.

George W. Bush came in at 3.3%. Clinton’s annual deficit was a mere 0.1% because he ran surpluses in his second term.

The cost to you of Trump’s borrow-and-spend approach? Instead of retiring the federal debt in eight years, as Trump told voters he could easily do because he was “the king of debt,” the federal debt is growing at the rate of $30 per day for a family of four. That’s almost $11,000 per year for that family.

Fact.

Trump’s borrow-and-spend, however, has failed to stimulate faster jobs creation.

Under Trump, job growth is slower than under Obama. Trump’s average is 198,000 more jobs per month. That’s good, but far from great.

Obama, during his last six years and a month, averaged 204,000 more jobs each month.

Fact.

Now run along, child.

Why Trump Gets a 'C' on the Economy | DCReport.org
Again, what I was responding to....from you. you being IM2, is:

You stated this, IM2:

"Economic optimism is not economic fact. Understand?"
You...IM2, said that...no one else said that.

I proved you wrong, I gave you very positive economic facts that you ignore.
Now again, run along child.
 
You are just Butt Hurt...….

Turn off cnn and msnbctard and then Pull your head out of your ass...

We are in one of the best economies ever....

Only the dumbest of the dumbest Tards can’t prosper from the genius of TRUMP......

Only the dumbest of the dumbest believe what you just said.


You Tards will be Tards…………..

Since Reagan gave us record deficits and Bush 2 turned a surplus into a depression, I think when we talk of "tards", we begin and end with conservatives.


Nope you are the Tards because you believed obozo

when he said this is the new normal and........

“whots” Trump “goni” do?

Wave his magic wand?

Trump shoved that MAGIC WAND up obozo’s ASS.....

Drop the MIC you Tard POS.

Trump had no wand. He's done nothing. That is the truth. Now whether or not you accept the truth is not my problem.
You wouldn't know the truth if it bitch slapped you in the face, IM2.
 

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