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Just two weeks ago the same could have been said about NYCOne very small area of the country. Here in Wisconsin we have had 25 deaths.
So they're stupid.Republican governors are just responding to the hysteria created by TDS morons like you and the fake media.LOLOLYour real plan is to force people to stay home until the economy tanks.The plan of every TDS moron and the fake news media. They understand that these extreme lockdown policies are destroying the economy, and they are doing everything possible to accelerate it. That's why douchebags like you are in here exaggerating how deadly this virus is.Their plan is to destroy the economy and then blame it all on Trump. However, it's not going to work because the public approves of the way Trump is handling the epidemic.I'm telling ya, this whole thing is just the liberals going nuclear, they are putting all their eggs in this "corona-virus" basket, it's a last ditch effort to swing the election and every government agency is onboard, heck I bet there are liberals on this forum who will swear they have been hit on the head with a piece of falling sky.This should drive the hysteria mongers crazy. How are they going to generate hysteria about a disease that is less serious than the flu?
It’s possible that the number of people in the U.S. who are infected with COVID-19 is much bigger than the number that is being currently reported, but many of those people haven’t gotten substantially sick, and so haven’t gotten tested.The death rate is calculated by dividing the number of people who die by the number who get infected.But while we do have accurate information about the numerator, we really have no idea what the denominator is. It’s possible that the real denominator is magnitudes bigger than what is being reported, because most infected people have either no symptoms or minor symptoms, and thus, don’t get tested. If this is indeed the case, then it’s possible that the real death rate is far, far lower than the one that is being reported.As of this writing (early March 30, 2020), in the U.S., 142,735 people have tested positive for COVID-19, and of those, 2,489 have died from it. (I got those numbers from this link, which is continuously being updated.)Based on these numbers, the fatality rate in the U.S. is 1.744%Meanwhile, Iceland tested a large segment of its population, including people with no symptoms, and found that 6.3% of them have COVID-19.The U.S. has 328 million people. If we extrapolate Iceland’s figure of 6.3% to the U.S., it would suggest that more than 20 million people in the U.S. have COVID-19. (I realize that extrapolating Iceland’s test results to the U.S. is not the ideal way to determine the rate of infection in the U.S. But given the absence of this particular type of widespread testing in the U.S., it’s probably the most accurate guess that we can make at this point in time. Hopefully, such widespread testing will be done in the U.S., and we will then have a more accurate number.)So for the U.S., the real denominator may be 140 times bigger than the one that is being reported.Which, if true, would indicate that the estimated real death rate in the U.S. is more than two magnitudes smaller than what is being reported.And, if true, would mean that the estimated real death rate in the U.S. is 0.01246%
Whose plan? Retard.
And the mortality rate is about 2%. Not that it matters when we start seeing 20k, 30k, 50k and more dead.
Actually doing everything possible to flatten the curve so that those who do get it and need to be hospitalized will be able to do so. Maybe we should have started sooner.
And Republican governors are in on that nefarious plan, fucking moron?
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.Neat.
Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?
I was going to say that one problem with testing (the alive and dead) is the problem of FALSE POSITIVES: You may test people who test positive who have have some Covid in their lungs, etc., but are not even sick, have no symptoms, won't ever get sick and will never become contagious. Then you might have people with flu-like symptoms who die and test positive as well, but Covid was not the primary cause of death.This should drive the hysteria mongers crazy. How are they going to generate hysteria about a disease that is less serious than the flu?
It’s possible that the number of people in the U.S. who are infected with COVID-19 is much bigger than the number that is being currently reported, but many of those people haven’t gotten substantially sick, and so haven’t gotten tested.The death rate is calculated by dividing the number of people who die by the number who get infected.But while we do have accurate information about the numerator, we really have no idea what the denominator is. It’s possible that the real denominator is magnitudes bigger than what is being reported, because most infected people have either no symptoms or minor symptoms, and thus, don’t get tested. If this is indeed the case, then it’s possible that the real death rate is far, far lower than the one that is being reported.As of this writing (early March 30, 2020), in the U.S., 142,735 people have tested positive for COVID-19, and of those, 2,489 have died from it. (I got those numbers from this link, which is continuously being updated.)Based on these numbers, the fatality rate in the U.S. is 1.744%Meanwhile, Iceland tested a large segment of its population, including people with no symptoms, and found that 6.3% of them have COVID-19.The U.S. has 328 million people. If we extrapolate Iceland’s figure of 6.3% to the U.S., it would suggest that more than 20 million people in the U.S. have COVID-19. (I realize that extrapolating Iceland’s test results to the U.S. is not the ideal way to determine the rate of infection in the U.S. But given the absence of this particular type of widespread testing in the U.S., it’s probably the most accurate guess that we can make at this point in time. Hopefully, such widespread testing will be done in the U.S., and we will then have a more accurate number.)So for the U.S., the real denominator may be 140 times bigger than the one that is being reported.Which, if true, would indicate that the estimated real death rate in the U.S. is more than two magnitudes smaller than what is being reported.And, if true, would mean that the estimated real death rate in the U.S. is 0.01246%
THERE IS NO WAY of truly knowing the extent or spread of SARS-2 Covid-19 in the population unless you took a sampling of the population BEFORE the infection started as your base reference. There is a good chance a fair number of people would test positive for Covid a year ago anyway even before the infection started, either due to RANDOM ERRORS in the testing itself or due to other viruses similar enough to Covid to fool the test.
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.Neat.
Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?
Because Iceland is doing studies via testing on infected/non-infected population counts.
Great. How has that early and vast testing benefited Iceland in preventing the spread? You know, the exact opposite of what we did. We kind of followed the Italian head up the ass model in fighting this disease.
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.Neat.
Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?
Because Iceland is doing studies via testing on infected/non-infected population counts.
Great. How has that early and vast testing benefited Iceland in preventing the spread? You know, the exact opposite of what we did. We kind of followed the Italian head up the ass model in fighting this disease.
Iceland is a far smaller country, and probably doesn't have the FDA/CDC red tape we have regarding approval of medical devices and treatments.
Some would call Iceland's healthcare system socialist too, but that would be inconvenient right now, wouldn't it?
Iceland for the most part is a rural country, even their biggest city is rather small. Even though they got hit pretty hard (probably due to heavy importation of goods and tourism) their mortality rate is far less than most other countries, including us. We recently surpassed them on the number of dead per capita. Iceland has taken social distancing more seriously as well as using testing to track the virus spread. These are things we are lacking in. The only benefit to comparing Iceland to us is to paint an unfounded and most likely false narrative to protect Dear Leader's reputation.
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.Neat.
Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?
Had you read the article, you would see that it's because Iceland has done extensive testing of its people.
What difference do you think using Italy would have made?
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.Neat.
Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?
Because Iceland is doing studies via testing on infected/non-infected population counts.
Great. How has that early and vast testing benefited Iceland in preventing the spread? You know, the exact opposite of what we did. We kind of followed the Italian head up the ass model in fighting this disease.
You're wandering down tangents unrelated to the topic, frantically searching for a way to make this about denigrating the US.
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.Neat.
Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?
Because Iceland is doing studies via testing on infected/non-infected population counts.
Great. How has that early and vast testing benefited Iceland in preventing the spread? You know, the exact opposite of what we did. We kind of followed the Italian head up the ass model in fighting this disease.
Iceland is a far smaller country, and probably doesn't have the FDA/CDC red tape we have regarding approval of medical devices and treatments.
Some would call Iceland's healthcare system socialist too, but that would be inconvenient right now, wouldn't it?
Iceland for the most part is a rural country, even their biggest city is rather small. Even though they got hit pretty hard (probably due to heavy importation of goods and tourism) their mortality rate is far less than most other countries, including us. We recently surpassed them on the number of dead per capita. Iceland has taken social distancing more seriously as well as using testing to track the virus spread. These are things we are lacking in. The only benefit to comparing Iceland to us is to paint an unfounded and most likely false narrative to protect Dear Leader's reputation.
More like it would be irrelevant . . . except to your insatiable need to make any and every topic about "See how much the US sucks in every possible way?!"
You have yet to say a single fucking thing that actually relates to the topic at hand, did you know that? Maybe next time you should get someone to read you the words and explain them before you feel the need to start firing off pointless comments. Just a suggestion.
The point of the article in the OP was not "This is how Iceland is combatting Covid-19 so much better than the US is"; the point was "here's a country which has done extensive testing of its people, whether sick or not, and these are the statistical results they're finding".
You have no argument. Unless we test everyone, or a legitimate test sample, we CANNOT know the mortality rateCatch upDispute the logic.Neat.
Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
I'm not sure what your argument is in the context of this thread.
You have no argument. Unless we test everyone, or a legitimate test sample, we CANNOT know the mortality rateCatch upDispute the logic.Neat.
Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
I'm not sure what your argument is in the context of this thread.
I'm not sure you know what the context of the thread is.
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.Neat.
Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?
Because Iceland is doing studies via testing on infected/non-infected population counts.
Great. How has that early and vast testing benefited Iceland in preventing the spread? You know, the exact opposite of what we did. We kind of followed the Italian head up the ass model in fighting this disease.
You're wandering down tangents unrelated to the topic, frantically searching for a way to make this about denigrating the US.
How is that? The premise is that since the Iceland mortality rate is low then the United States is going to be low as well, forgetting their are more than two countries in the world as well as forgetting what the people actually running models for the virus have predicted.
Anyway, you're still behind the eight ball on the thread.
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.Neat.
Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?
Because Iceland is doing studies via testing on infected/non-infected population counts.
Great. How has that early and vast testing benefited Iceland in preventing the spread? You know, the exact opposite of what we did. We kind of followed the Italian head up the ass model in fighting this disease.
Iceland is a far smaller country, and probably doesn't have the FDA/CDC red tape we have regarding approval of medical devices and treatments.
Some would call Iceland's healthcare system socialist too, but that would be inconvenient right now, wouldn't it?
Iceland for the most part is a rural country, even their biggest city is rather small. Even though they got hit pretty hard (probably due to heavy importation of goods and tourism) their mortality rate is far less than most other countries, including us. We recently surpassed them on the number of dead per capita. Iceland has taken social distancing more seriously as well as using testing to track the virus spread. These are things we are lacking in. The only benefit to comparing Iceland to us is to paint an unfounded and most likely false narrative to protect Dear Leader's reputation.
More like it would be irrelevant . . . except to your insatiable need to make any and every topic about "See how much the US sucks in every possible way?!"
The U.S. doesn't suck, the president does and the late start has hurt us. The only reason this thread exists was an attempt to defend the president by downplaying the virus.
You have yet to say a single fucking thing that actually relates to the topic at hand, did you know that? Maybe next time you should get someone to read you the words and explain them before you feel the need to start firing off pointless comments. Just a suggestion.
I have, you haven't.
The point of the article in the OP was not "This is how Iceland is combatting Covid-19 so much better than the US is"; the point was "here's a country which has done extensive testing of its people, whether sick or not, and these are the statistical results they're finding".
You're obviously not understanding my posts. My point has been the "study" by Dan the Squirrel Man is wishful thinking. Please bother somebody else if you aren't able to comprehend my posts.
You have no argument. Unless we test everyone, or a legitimate test sample, we CANNOT know the mortality rateCatch upDispute the logic.Neat.
Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
I'm not sure what your argument is in the context of this thread.
I'm not sure you know what the context of the thread is.
I do. Maybe you should stick to it rather than making me the topic.
which is why I posted this in reply to you:Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.Neat.
Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?
Because Iceland is doing studies via testing on infected/non-infected population counts.
Great. How has that early and vast testing benefited Iceland in preventing the spread? You know, the exact opposite of what we did. We kind of followed the Italian head up the ass model in fighting this disease.
You're wandering down tangents unrelated to the topic, frantically searching for a way to make this about denigrating the US.
How is that? The premise is that since the Iceland mortality rate is low then the United States is going to be low as well, forgetting their are more than two countries in the world as well as forgetting what the people actually running models for the virus have predicted.
Anyway, you're still behind the eight ball on the thread.
No, the premise is that since Iceland is showing much lower mortality rates, it's possible that the estimates of how deadly the disease is might be too high.
if you assume the US is going to have higher death rates than Iceland because of the differences in our countries - and I do assume that - it does still mean that the projections based on a presumed-higher morbidity may be overestimations.
And YOU are forgetting that the people running models 1) keep having to wildly revise them, because 2) they have incomplete data to work with, same as everyone else does, which means 3) this is new data that needs to be factored into the models.
Anyway, your judgement about "behind the eight ball" means just as much to me as everything else you spew.
What have I posted that isn't a fact?No, it doesn't carry any more weight. Facts are facts.Neat.
Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
Cool. Does it carry more weight if it's coming from epidemiology experts including Dr. Fauci, and published in the New England Journal of Medicine?
A fatality rate like that of "a severe influenza... considerably less than 1%" -- Dr. Fauci's words, not Danfromsquirrelhill's
You should maybe have your chubby little fingers post facts for a change.
The premise of this thread that by looking at Iceland alone and ignoring the rest of the world we can deduce the mortality rate.
You get a more accurate number than going by figures where not all the people who have the disease have been tested. That means the rest of the world, dumbass.What have I posted that isn't a fact?No, it doesn't carry any more weight. Facts are facts.Neat.
Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
Cool. Does it carry more weight if it's coming from epidemiology experts including Dr. Fauci, and published in the New England Journal of Medicine?
A fatality rate like that of "a severe influenza... considerably less than 1%" -- Dr. Fauci's words, not Danfromsquirrelhill's
You should maybe have your chubby little fingers post facts for a change.
The premise of this thread that by looking at Iceland alone and ignoring the rest of the world we can deduce the mortality rate.
They test everyone, not just people who show symptoms. That's how you get a more accurate mortality rate.Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.Neat.
Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?
Had you read the article, you would see that it's because Iceland has done extensive testing of its people.
What difference do you think using Italy would have made?
They've tested about 3.5%. This has been gone over in the thread, catch up.
You get a more accurate number than going by figures where not all the people who have the disease have been tested. That means the rest of the world, dumbass.What have I posted that isn't a fact?No, it doesn't carry any more weight. Facts are facts.Neat.
Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
Cool. Does it carry more weight if it's coming from epidemiology experts including Dr. Fauci, and published in the New England Journal of Medicine?
A fatality rate like that of "a severe influenza... considerably less than 1%" -- Dr. Fauci's words, not Danfromsquirrelhill's
You should maybe have your chubby little fingers post facts for a change.
The premise of this thread that by looking at Iceland alone and ignoring the rest of the world we can deduce the mortality rate.
For the record, South Korea also did extensive testing, and had something like a .77% mortality rate.
They test everyone, not just people who show symptoms. That's how you get a more accurate mortality rate.Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.Neat.
Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?
Had you read the article, you would see that it's because Iceland has done extensive testing of its people.
What difference do you think using Italy would have made?
They've tested about 3.5%. This has been gone over in the thread, catch up.
Are you just pretending to be too stupid to understand that?
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