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I have never been scared of such threats. Why are they so scary to you? Or, why do you think everyone else is scared?
The reason for the Ten Commandments is the sense they make for a peaceful, joyful life. Sure, we can slap the word "moral" on them, but they are simply a way of living that a group of people decided to follow in their community for the good of the whole.
It's prolly the only commandment that has to do with your inner you. We all see something that a friend or neighbor has and then want it. However, coveting means something more like desire, lust, want, jealousy, set your eyes and heart on, greed and more. You can't get it out of your mind and it leads to discontent and could cause you to do some crime like steal or commit adultery. You're right in that it could be for "the good of the whole" as it's due to selfishness of an individual and cause problems.For example:
10. Thou Shalt Not Covet "the good of the whole."
Humans define their own purpose.
Does the Universe Have a Purpose?
Why we insist it does, and why it's okay that it most probably doesn't.www.psychologytoday.com
Our human sense of purpose is not dependent on the universe having a purpose
I had another thought. If the universe has no purpose, then what does no life elsewhere mean? Shouldn't there be a microbe or simple life elsewhere? I mean we have such a finely tuned universe, but even that can be overcome without a purposeless universe. However, this is not what is observed or what science backs up despite what Victor Stenger wrote.Humans define their own purpose.
Does the Universe Have a Purpose?
Why we insist it does, and why it's okay that it most probably doesn't.
Indeed. Yet Meriweather claims that all Ten Commandments "are simply a way of living that a group of people decided to follow in their community for the good of the whole." Well, kumbaya city as always. But one simply has to appreciate that "God" really just wants all to obey without question. Know thy place (woman)! It's bad enough when one individual or neighbor gets uppity and begins coveting "the good of the whole." But a whole community doing it at once? Whoa! Next thing you know they'll be cats and dogs living together. Now you have An Evil Problem. Mark my words!It's prolly the only commandment that has to do with your inner you. We all see something that a friend or neighbor has and then want it. However, coveting means something more like desire, lust, want, jealousy, set your eyes and heart on, greed and more. You can't get it out of your mind and it leads to discontent and could cause you to do some crime like steal or commit adultery. You're right in that it could be for "the good of the whole" as it's due to selfishness of an individual and cause problems.
Of course that's how religion works. Promise either salvation or damnation.That's not how religion works. You don't even know that and are wrong. For people like you, it ends with eternal damnation. I've said many times how it starts with faith. You do not even know that.
I have educated opinions and can back up my arguments with links and anecdotes. Science backs up the Bible. All you have are your own uninteresting opinions which no one can back up and all of us do not care about.
I never said there was no life elsewhere did I?I had another thought. If the universe has no purpose, then what does no life elsewhere mean? Shouldn't there be a microbe or simple life elsewhere? I mean we have such a finely tuned universe, but even that can be overcome without a purposeless universe. However, this is not what is observed or what science backs up despite what Victor Stenger wrote.
I'm not religious so obviously threats of damnation means nothing to me.I have never been scared of such threats. Why are they so scary to you? Or, why do you think everyone else is scared?
The reason for the Ten Commandments is the sense they make for a peaceful, joyful life. Sure, we can slap the word "moral" on them, but they are simply a way of living that a group of people decided to follow in their community for the good of the whole.
Care to prove that with actual numbers and not opinion?Sure pal
Stop 100 people on the street and ask them this. If even 60% said we don't really have a purpose at all, we're just making it all up, I might start to believe you.
But that's not the answer you would get. From a few who are mad at God, sure. Not from most though.
I don't think it's that at all. We're talking OT stuff made for the ancient Jews.Indeed. Yet Meriweather claims that all Ten Commandments "are simply a way of living that a group of people decided to follow in their community for the good of the whole." Well, kumbaya city as always. But one simply has to appreciate that "God" really just wants all to obey without question. Know thy place (woman)! It's bad enough when one individual or neighbor gets uppity and begins coveting "the good of the whole." But a whole community doing it at once? Whoa! Next thing you know they'll be cats and dogs living together. Now you have An Evil Problem. Mark my words!
It doesn't matter what you said or not said as you aren't God lol. I just said your opinions are worthless as nothing backs it up. Even your link is just someone's opinion.I never said there was no life elsewhere did I?
If there is there is no reason to think that life didn't evolve independently.
The fact is until we actually know there is other life in the universe we cannot say that the only instance of life we know of ( us) is proof that the universe is finely tuned for life.
Indeed. Yet Meriweather claims that all Ten Commandments "are simply a way of living that a group of people decided to follow in their community for the good of the whole." Well, kumbaya city as always. But one simply has to appreciate that "God" really just wants all to obey without question. Know thy place (woman)! It's bad enough when one individual or neighbor gets uppity and begins coveting "the good of the whole." But a whole community doing it at once? Whoa! Next thing you know they'll be cats and dogs living together. Now you have An Evil Problem. Mark my words!
But one simply has to appreciate that "God" really just wants all to obey without question.
When you can actually prove there gods exist by bringing one to my house let me knowIt doesn't matter what you said or not said as you aren't God lol. I just said your opinions are worthless as nothing backs it up. Even your link is just someone's opinion.
OTOH, I can say there is no life elsewhere as I think God would've told us if he created life, especially moral life, elsewhere in the universe. The universe was created for us to explore with new technology and realize the wonder of God and His power. The Bible leads me to believe that there is no other life elsewhere, even a microbe. The universe's purpose is to tell us the wonder and power of God. The JWST shows us that God created a mature universe throughout. You can't find a budding heavenly body anywhere so that disproves evolution, i.e. no Big Bang.
When you can actually prove there gods exist by bringing one to my house let me know
There's no need for me to go. It's up to you. God would gladly go to your house, but again, you have to prove it to yourself by having faith first.When you can actually prove there gods exist by bringing one to my house let me know
As is yours, and as will you. Except we'll both just be dead so it won't matter. Only, I won't have wasted my time believing and promoting a bunch of deliberately unverifiable crap for decades.Your time in this life is finite, and when you come to the end of it, you will have your proof.
Great, you have "faith." So next time this "God" gladly pops over, do everyone a big favor and snap a picture or record a video. Grab a matched hair sample or fingerprints at least. Simples. Prove "He" exists or kindly stfu already.There's no need for me to go. It's up to you. God would gladly go to your house, but again, you have to prove it to yourself by having faith first.
It is verifiable. One has to start with faith. We have Jesus as history, too.As is yours, and as will you. Except we'll both just be dead so it won't matter. Only, I won't have wasted my time believing and promoting a bunch of deliberately unverifiable crap for decades.
He pops up, but is invisible as spirit. He also doesn't reside in the universe anymore because of sin, so he comes only as spirit. It isn't an actual being that I see. It's more internal discussion.Great, you have "faith." So next time this "God" gladly pops over, do everyone a big favor and snap a picture or record a video. Grab a matched hair sample or fingerprints at least. Simples. Prove "He" exists or kindly stfu already.
God mostly doesn't work that way, strike you down in an instant, but will grant your wish one day. You'll have to be patient and I'll have to put up with your disbelief and sarcasm but you may stop posting tomorrow and give us all a thrill.I "prove" or demonstrate my lack of "faith" regularly by begging "God. God? God! If you exist, please strike me dead this instant?!" Or is that praying? This gets so confusing. Anyway, all I ever get is crickets... in response. Your "God" is neither a cricket nor crickets, correct? I'll try again:
God. God? God! If you exist, please strike me dead this instant?!
Your time in this life is finite, and when you come to the end of it, you will have your proof.
So you say. But no one has ever come back from the dead to prove it have they?Your time in this life is finite, and when you come to the end of it, you will have your proof.
