The Nordic model is widely regarded as a benchmark.

[Wyatt earp]

A number of comparative studies of economic and social performance have ranked the Nordics high. A common finding of cross-country comparisons is that the Nordics succeed better than other countries in combining economic efficiency and growth with a peaceful labour market, a fair distribution of income and social cohesion. The model is pointed to as a source of inspiration for other people in their search for a better social and economic system. On the other hand, many observers around the world are amazed that “the bumble-bee can fly” – that the Nordic economies can prosper and grow in spite of the presumably weak economic incentives associated with high tax wedges, a generous social security system and an egalitarian distribution of income. Critics have been looking for inner contradictions in the model and they have questioned its sustainability. Some argue that the economic performance of the Nordic countries is simply a result of exceptional and temporary advantages, bound to disappear over time. This report deals with the Nordic model, the reasons why it has worked in the past, and the challenges it is being subjected to in the future. Present economic and social trends, including globalization and demographic change, pose significant challenges to the model as we know it. The model will remain viable and successful only if the challenges and the need for reform are understood – and if action is taken. THE NORDIC MODEL Embracing globalization and sharing risks Torben M. Andersen, Bengt Holmström, Seppo Honkapohja, Sixten Korkman, Hans Tson Söderström, Juhana Vartiainen



https://economics.mit.edu/files/5726

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Don't let the door hit you on your way out to Scandinavia.

If you were wise you'd look at what they are doing and see what we can make work better for us. Our government is a disaster.

I have no desire to hand over 60% of what I make to the government.

For the Nordic countries it’s a great deal. Better healthcare, free college, retirement...

Try to get a free refill of or free water in those countries...



Nope not buying your argument.



.

 

[Brain357]

A number of comparative studies of economic and social performance have ranked the Nordics high. A common finding of cross-country comparisons is that the Nordics succeed better than other countries in combining economic efficiency and growth with a peaceful labour market, a fair distribution of income and social cohesion. The model is pointed to as a source of inspiration for other people in their search for a better social and economic system. On the other hand, many observers around the world are amazed that “the bumble-bee can fly” – that the Nordic economies can prosper and grow in spite of the presumably weak economic incentives associated with high tax wedges, a generous social security system and an egalitarian distribution of income. Critics have been looking for inner contradictions in the model and they have questioned its sustainability. Some argue that the economic performance of the Nordic countries is simply a result of exceptional and temporary advantages, bound to disappear over time. This report deals with the Nordic model, the reasons why it has worked in the past, and the challenges it is being subjected to in the future. Present economic and social trends, including globalization and demographic change, pose significant challenges to the model as we know it. The model will remain viable and successful only if the challenges and the need for reform are understood – and if action is taken. THE NORDIC MODEL Embracing globalization and sharing risks Torben M. Andersen, Bengt Holmström, Seppo Honkapohja, Sixten Korkman, Hans Tson Söderström, Juhana Vartiainen



https://economics.mit.edu/files/5726

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Don't let the door hit you on your way out to Scandinavia.

If you were wise you'd look at what they are doing and see what we can make work better for us. Our government is a disaster.

I have no desire to hand over 60% of what I make to the government.

For the Nordic countries it’s a great deal. Better healthcare, free college, retirement...

Try to get a free refill of or free water in those countries...



Nope not buying your argument.



.

You are more interested in a free refill than healthcare or education? That is funny.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Don't let the door hit you on your way out to Scandinavia.

If you were wise you'd look at what they are doing and see what we can make work better for us. Our government is a disaster.

I have no desire to hand over 60% of what I make to the government.

For the Nordic countries it’s a great deal. Better healthcare, free college, retirement...

Try to get a free refill of or free water in those countries...



Nope not buying your argument.



.

You are more interested in a free refill than healthcare or education? That is funny.

Uhm because they are not free? A free refill is free, I can sit at McDonald's all day long getting free WiFi and free cokes can I do that there?


.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Liberal socialism is a socialist political philosophy that incorporates liberal principles. Liberal socialismdoes not have the goal of completely abolishing capitalism and replacing it with socialism, but it instead supports a mixed economy that includes both private property and social ownership in capital goods.

Venezuela.

 

[night_son]

Liberal socialism is a socialist political philosophy that incorporates liberal principles. Liberal socialismdoes not have the goal of completely abolishing capitalism and replacing it with socialism, but it instead supports a mixed economy that includes both private property and social ownership in capital goods.

You are fallen into a pit of very common ( for these days) naïveté—born very likely—by a core misunderstanding of historic, founding, American political philosophy, and thus disparity between its earliest and ongoing contemporary implementation. The primacy of American individualism was predicated upon awarding the individual American citizen with the greatest in all of preceding Western civilizational history freedom of personal responsibility to either fail or succeed on his or her own personal effort or impetus of personal merit. Not, as you and so many others would have our newer generations brainwashed to believe founded upon individual success by government dependency.

True Socialism cannot be cherry-picked for riper, lower hanging fruit of the Marxist tree or implemented in pieces picked from the same tree. As many others as of late have erred in doing, you also seem to be of the mind that Socialism in some form has been implemented in Europe or Scandinavia in some real, true to life form. The truth is, all of you are gravely mistaken. True State-Socialism is a transitional period between Capitalism and Communism, a rock in the middle of a rapid, deep stream or creek, between the banks of two political ideologies. One ideology, Capitalism (with limited economic interventionism) is exactly what the Western world functions under presently.

True State-Socialism is that transitory period come to be implemented immediately after a dictatorship of the proletariat has been established, either by direct active revolution or torturously slow creeping social and political and cultural revolution. Venezuela is a perfect example of a dictatorship of the proletariat which has been "struck" for many years in the Socialist transition middle phase between Capitalism and Communism. The now fallen USSR is an even better example of a state caught for many decades in a self-induced coma of dictatorship of the proletariat ad nauseum, where its Party leadership was perpetually unable to force its nation over the edge into that (grand lie of) a true Communist "Utopia" as envisioned by good old Thomas Moore.

True Socialism is the incarnation of the loss of all individual rights and freedoms, and it is the manifestation of the usurpation of trust in the citizenry, by a dictatorship of thugs upon whom the individual citizen must depend for their every need of living. The enticements have always been the same when every time in history Marxist ideologues have tried to sell their utopian snake oils to the people. Promises of a government owned by the people; of a society where every individual need is provided without requirement of much personal effort or merit; of a classless society where rich and poor are truly equal and ancient feudalism has truly been banished. And, the Marxist apologists have always deceived, always lied, always formed small, violent vanguard parties to implement the transition to true Socialism with much murder and bloodshed. All lies. every time. This time is no different other than in that the brainwashing is much easier with modern technology.

 

[BrokeLoser]

No thanks.

get used to the idea.. welcome to the revolution
John F. Kennedy > Quotes > Quotable Quote

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

[Remarks on the first anniversary of the Alliance for Progress, 13 March 1962]”

― John F. Kennedy

We may sink into socialism/communism. I seriously doubt it though. The world is at the precipice of war. The planet is being perturbed. We're about to witness epic changes.

The Russians already have the GOP in their pocket so, stealth has come into play.

Mexico owns the DNC’s ass. I’ll partner with Russia over filthy wetbacks any day.

 

[caddo kid]

No thanks.

get used to the idea.. welcome to the revolution
John F. Kennedy > Quotes > Quotable Quote

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

[Remarks on the first anniversary of the Alliance for Progress, 13 March 1962]”

― John F. Kennedy

We may sink into socialism/communism. I seriously doubt it though. The world is at the precipice of war. The planet is being perturbed. We're about to witness epic changes.

The Russians already have the GOP in their pocket so, stealth has come into play.

Mexico owns the DNC’s ass. I’ll partner with Russia over filthy wetbacks any day.

Sure; anything you say Vlad.

 

[iceberg]

Liberal socialism is a socialist political philosophy that incorporates liberal principles. Liberal socialismdoes not have the goal of completely abolishing capitalism and replacing it with socialism, but it instead supports a mixed economy that includes both private property and social ownership in capital goods.

then move there.

 

[Brain357]

If you were wise you'd look at what they are doing and see what we can make work better for us. Our government is a disaster.

I have no desire to hand over 60% of what I make to the government.

For the Nordic countries it’s a great deal. Better healthcare, free college, retirement...

Try to get a free refill of or free water in those countries...



Nope not buying your argument.



.

You are more interested in a free refill than healthcare or education? That is funny.

Uhm because they are not free? A free refill is free, I can sit at McDonald's all day long getting free WiFi and free cokes can I do that there?


.

You pay for it in your taxes. Healthcare is better and costs less than here. The Nordic model seems to work very well.

 

[bripat9643]

I have no desire to hand over 60% of what I make to the government.

For the Nordic countries it’s a great deal. Better healthcare, free college, retirement...

Try to get a free refill of or free water in those countries...



Nope not buying your argument.



.

You are more interested in a free refill than healthcare or education? That is funny.

Uhm because they are not free? A free refill is free, I can sit at McDonald's all day long getting free WiFi and free cokes can I do that there?


.

You pay for it in your taxes. Healthcare is better and costs less than here. The Nordic model seems to work very well.

The size of the average house Americans live in is twice the size of the average house in Denmark. Furthermore, they have dishwashers, huge refrigerators, and huge ovens - things most western European homes lack. Even the poorest of Americans have air conditioning, a car, and a computer - things that many Europeans lack.

 

[bripat9643]

I have no desire to hand over 60% of what I make to the government.

For the Nordic countries it’s a great deal. Better healthcare, free college, retirement...

Try to get a free refill of or free water in those countries...



Nope not buying your argument.



.

You are more interested in a free refill than healthcare or education? That is funny.

Uhm because they are not free? A free refill is free, I can sit at McDonald's all day long getting free WiFi and free cokes can I do that there?


.

You pay for it in your taxes. Healthcare is better and costs less than here. The Nordic model seems to work very well.

Their healthcare isn't better. The survival rate for cancer is much better here than in Europe.

 

[task0778]

Most 1st world democratic economies are a mixture in varying degrees of capitalism and socialism. The Nordic countries in particular are NOT socialist, they have democratically elected gov'ts that employ some socialistic policies but they do so using capitalistic approaches. What makes it work for them is their governance, each of these countries are trying different ideas to address different issues, but to some degree they all partner with the private sector to arrive at workable solutions. But the key to it all for them is efficacious and responsible government. Something we do not have, and by many accounts will not achieve no matter which party controls Congress or the WH.

To afford the socialistic policies that the Nordic countries have would require quite a lot more revenue than the US Gov't currently gets, is there anyone out there who is stupid enough to believe we could get it all from the rich guys and big corps? That's not how those Nordic countries do it, EVERYBODY pays more there, but here's the kicker => they get more for their taxes than we do. And therein lies the problem, our gov't is too wasteful and downright corrupt. Personally, I'm not willing to pay one cent more in taxes to these lying thieves than I have to, and until that changes I and millions of other Americans are not going to trust our gov't with so much extra money when they can't do a good, honest job with what they're getting now.

 

[sakinago]

A number of comparative studies of economic and social performance have ranked the Nordics high. A common finding of cross-country comparisons is that the Nordics succeed better than other countries in combining economic efficiency and growth with a peaceful labour market, a fair distribution of income and social cohesion. The model is pointed to as a source of inspiration for other people in their search for a better social and economic system. On the other hand, many observers around the world are amazed that “the bumble-bee can fly” – that the Nordic economies can prosper and grow in spite of the presumably weak economic incentives associated with high tax wedges, a generous social security system and an egalitarian distribution of income. Critics have been looking for inner contradictions in the model and they have questioned its sustainability. Some argue that the economic performance of the Nordic countries is simply a result of exceptional and temporary advantages, bound to disappear over time. This report deals with the Nordic model, the reasons why it has worked in the past, and the challenges it is being subjected to in the future. Present economic and social trends, including globalization and demographic change, pose significant challenges to the model as we know it. The model will remain viable and successful only if the challenges and the need for reform are understood – and if action is taken. THE NORDIC MODEL Embracing globalization and sharing risks Torben M. Andersen, Bengt Holmström, Seppo Honkapohja, Sixten Korkman, Hans Tson Söderström, Juhana Vartiainen



https://economics.mit.edu/files/5726

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So a system based on free market economics works. What a surprise. If the Nordic countries are on the same level of economic freedom as the US, with higher tax rates and a lower standard of living...I think all the evidence we need is right there, right in front of our eyes. Why don’t we look to a country that’s scores top 3 in absolutely every single category one can think of for as long as we have measured such things for inspiration? That seems logical right? That country being Switzerland: economic freedom top 3, standard of living top 3, overall citizen happiness top 3, healthcare top 3, education top 3, safety, top 3, name a category, the Swiss are up there. They’re obviously doing something right. Why is it we want to lower our standard of living, when we have a clear cut example of what actually works, and has worked for a long ass time, and is actually what we’re partially based offf of?

Why is it Bernie can point to Nordic countries, who operate on free market economics, and then trash the free markets and propose policies that even the Nordic countries push away with a 10 foot pole because they’d cost triple the amount of money that’s actually circulating the globe within a decade. The Nordic countries are NOT democratic socialist countries. They have social progams larger is scale than our social programs, they are also just as economically free as we are, if not freeer. No where near what Bernie calls for.

What’s wrong with looking to the Swiss for inspiration, on what’s proven to work? They’ve been doing it for 500 years. Something is going right for them there.

Where do we find some Nazi gold to steal?

....right, because 500 million of rumored gold from 80 years ago explains why the Swiss have been in such good shape for like the past 300 years. They just handed it out to all their citizens and made a super duper pinkie promise not too tell anyone else. We know where that gold went, it went to Argentina. There’s whole cities over there where they all speak German, they look pristine German towns before WWII, have shrines to their nazi grandparents. It’s bizarre but they’re real, almost like someone enlarged a snow globe of Frankfurt Germany circa 1936, and dropped it right on the side of a secluded South American mountain range, and filled it with a bunch of third Reich remnants. There’s like 15 or 20 of these towns, yea that sort of thing doesn’t happen without a lot of “capital”.

 

[beagle9]

Liberal socialism is a socialist political philosophy that incorporates liberal principles. Liberal socialismdoes not have the goal of completely abolishing capitalism and replacing it with socialism, but it instead supports a mixed economy that includes both private property and social ownership in capital goods.

In other words, corporatism. We've been headed in that direction for quite a while now. You may have noticed, it's not going so well here.

Giving government greater power over our economic decisions might work in a relatively homogenous society, where everyone is pretty much on the same page to begin with. In a melting pot of disparate cultures and values, it's a disaster. It inevitably forces people to accept the values of the majority, which will frequently be in conflict with their own.

In this nations case, and wrongfully so as seen through out the government crack downs or enforcement positions taken in the past (in which somehow became the norm during previous administration's), we have seen this nation forced to except those things that exist throughout some minority groups thinkings, in which again (by force through activist judges), supercedes the percieved moral majority that had existed in unity within most areas all across this nation for decades and decades now, are in agreement about keeping this nation safe as a majority on various matters pertaining to such things as security issues and more.

The majority in their unison opinions, are in opposition to such things that are percieved as a danger to civilized society as they know it today, and their wishes are that such things were not forced upon them by any minority group (through the activist judges rulings), in which could possibly hold any number of various types of anti-American positions in life, whether upon high or within a group and/or within a radicalized activist culture (harboring illegals for example without having ways to check their overall back grounds thus leaving the nation vulnerable).

It is where the country and/or any civilized society runs off the rails when it see's these sorts of things go on in a society.. So it appears that the nation is on the brink of revolutionary thought processes again when it comes to all these things that are happening today in strong evidence of (i.e. Americans being slaughtered due to radicalized thinkings for example in which has to end). No more American lives lost due to craziness for starters how about it.

The public domain suddenly became ok for newly added cultural character opinions,, attitudes and thinking's while on the other hand the newly formed groups were attempting to shut down previous cultural characters opinions, attitudes and thinking's that were never anti-American at all, but were instead representative of the very attributes, attitudes, and thinking's that made America the long sought after unified power house that it had become over the years.

Otherwise once the empowerment of some things were granted to those with radicalized activist opinions, then that same empowerment sought to destroy the very ones who enabled it. Go figure.

 

[Rustic]

Liberal socialism is a socialist political philosophy that incorporates liberal principles. Liberal socialismdoes not have the goal of completely abolishing capitalism and replacing it with socialism, but it instead supports a mixed economy that includes both private property and social ownership in capital goods.

Lol
Keep your fucked up little collective to yourselves, it does not require our participation

 

[Rustic]

No thanks.

get used to the idea.. welcome to the revolution
John F. Kennedy > Quotes > Quotable Quote

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

[Remarks on the first anniversary of the Alliance for Progress, 13 March 1962]”

― John F. Kennedy

We may sink into socialism/communism. I seriously doubt it though. The world is at the precipice of war. The planet is being perturbed. We're about to witness epic changes.

The Russians already have the GOP in their pocket so, stealth has come into play.

...and still no Russian connection

 

[Rustic]

Liberal socialism is a socialist political philosophy that incorporates liberal principles. Liberal socialismdoes not have the goal of completely abolishing capitalism and replacing it with socialism, but it instead supports a mixed economy that includes both private property and social ownership in capital goods.

Venezuela.

Worse... even In all of 57 states and under sniper fire

 

[Freiheit]

In the words of that great 20th Century American philosopher, Bugs Bunny; "What a maroon" Fools come in all shapes and sizes BillSands proves the rule.

 

[Rustic]

No thanks.

get used to the idea.. welcome to the revolution
John F. Kennedy > Quotes > Quotable Quote

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

[Remarks on the first anniversary of the Alliance for Progress, 13 March 1962]”

― John F. Kennedy

We may sink into socialism/communism. I seriously doubt it though. The world is at the precipice of war. The planet is being perturbed. We're about to witness epic changes.

The Russians already have the GOP in their pocket so, stealth has come into play.

Mexico owns the DNC’s ass. I’ll partner with Russia over filthy wetbacks any day.

Sure; anything you say Vlad.

 

[doesanyoneknowmyname]

Liberal socialism is a socialist political philosophy that incorporates liberal principles. Liberal socialismdoes not have the goal of completely abolishing capitalism and replacing it with socialism, but it instead supports a mixed economy that includes both private property and social ownership in capital goods.

yes.

however.


there isn't a conservative on the planet who would understand that. They can ONLy think in terms of black and white.....good and bad....right and wrong....

so, in their defective brains, if it isn't unfettered capitalism then it MUST BE communism.....

poor deranged pathetic subhumans......(and I mean that as a compliment!)