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America's loss in Afghanistan, is the End of America as the sole Super Power.

MisterBeale

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I read an interesting Article tonight. As I am reading it, I was thinking of this video;


In this video, the global oligarchs explicitly tell us, the U.S. will not be the world's sole power. . . to this end, it will mean destroying the US as the holder of the world's reserve currency.

Chris Hedges: US Collective Suicide​

July 28, 2021
The return of the Taliban to power will be one more signpost of the end of the American empire — and nobody will be held accountable.


". . . The two decades of combat, the one trillion dollars spent, the 100,000 troops deployed to subdue Afghanistan, the high-tech gadgets, artificial intelligence, cyberwarfare, Reaper drones armed with Hellfire missiles and GBU-30 bombs and the Global Hawk drones with high-resolution cameras, Special Operations Command composed of elite rangers, SEALs and air commandos, black sites, torture, electronic surveillance, satellites, attack aircraft, mercenary armies, infusions of millions of dollars to buy off and bribe the local elites and train an Afghan army of 350,000 that has never exhibited the will to fight, failed to defeat a guerrilla army of 60,000 that funded itself through opium production and extortion in one of the poorest countries on earth.

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Mark Twain, who was a fierce opponent of the efforts to plant the seeds of empire in Cuba, the Philippines, Guam, Hawaii and Puerto Rico, wrote an imagined history of America in the 20thcentury where its “lust for conquest” had destroyed “the Great Republic…[because] trampling upon the helpless abroad had taught her, by a natural process, to endure with apathy the like at home; multitudes who had applauded the crushing of other people’s liberties, lived to suffer for their mistake.”

Twain knew that foreign occupations, designed to enrich the ruling elites, use occupied populations as laboratory rats to perfect techniques of control that soon migrate back to the homeland. It was the brutal colonial policing practices in the Philippines, which included a vast spy network along with routine beatings, torture and executions, which became the model for centralized domestic policing and intelligence gathering in the United States. Israeli’s arms, surveillance and drone industries test their products on the Palestinians.

<snip>

The death blow to the American empire will, as McCoy writes, be the loss of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. This loss will plunge the United States into a crippling, and prolonged depression. It will force a massive contraction of the global military footprint.

The ugly, squalid face of empire, with the loss of the dollar as the reserve currency, will become familiar at home. The bleak economic landscape, with its decay and hopelessness, will accelerate an array of violent and self-destructive pathologies including mass shootings, hate crimes, opioid and heroin overdoses, morbid obesity, suicides, gambling and alcoholism.

The state will increasingly dispense with the fiction of the rule of law to rely exclusively on militarized police, essentially internal armies of occupation, and the prisons and jails, which already hold 25 percent of the world’s prisoners although the United States represents less than 5 percent of global population.

Our demise will probably come more swiftly than we imagine. When revenues shrink or collapse, McCoy points out, empires become “brittle.” An economy heavily dependent on massive government subsidies to produce primarily weapons and munitions, as well as fund military adventurism, will go into a tailspin with a heavily depreciated dollar, falling to perhaps a third of its former value. Prices will dramatically rise because of the steep increase in the cost of imports. Wages in real terms will decline.

The devaluation of Treasury bonds will make paying for our massive deficits onerous, perhaps impossible. The unemployment level will climb to depression era levels. Social assistance programs, because of a contracting budget, will be sharply curtailed or eliminated. This dystopian world will fuel the rage and hyper nationalism that put Donald Trump in the White House. It will spawn an authoritarian state to keep order and, I expect, a Christianized fascism.. . . "



This is all stuff that I have been very slowly coming to realize will happen, as this is what led to the rise of the dictators in Germany, Italy, Spain and Russia. . . sad to see the oligarchs use their mechanations to do it to both China and the US.

It would not surprise me to see them orchestrate a war either. . . .
 

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I read an interesting Article tonight. As I am reading it, I was thinking of this video;


In this video, the global oligarchs explicitly tell us, the U.S. will not be the world's sole power. . . to this end, it will mean destroying the US as the holder of the world's reserve currency.

Chris Hedges: US Collective Suicide​

July 28, 2021
The return of the Taliban to power will be one more signpost of the end of the American empire — and nobody will be held accountable.


". . . The two decades of combat, the one trillion dollars spent, the 100,000 troops deployed to subdue Afghanistan, the high-tech gadgets, artificial intelligence, cyberwarfare, Reaper drones armed with Hellfire missiles and GBU-30 bombs and the Global Hawk drones with high-resolution cameras, Special Operations Command composed of elite rangers, SEALs and air commandos, black sites, torture, electronic surveillance, satellites, attack aircraft, mercenary armies, infusions of millions of dollars to buy off and bribe the local elites and train an Afghan army of 350,000 that has never exhibited the will to fight, failed to defeat a guerrilla army of 60,000 that funded itself through opium production and extortion in one of the poorest countries on earth.

<snip>

Mark Twain, who was a fierce opponent of the efforts to plant the seeds of empire in Cuba, the Philippines, Guam, Hawaii and Puerto Rico, wrote an imagined history of America in the 20thcentury where its “lust for conquest” had destroyed “the Great Republic…[because] trampling upon the helpless abroad had taught her, by a natural process, to endure with apathy the like at home; multitudes who had applauded the crushing of other people’s liberties, lived to suffer for their mistake.”

Twain knew that foreign occupations, designed to enrich the ruling elites, use occupied populations as laboratory rats to perfect techniques of control that soon migrate back to the homeland. It was the brutal colonial policing practices in the Philippines, which included a vast spy network along with routine beatings, torture and executions, which became the model for centralized domestic policing and intelligence gathering in the United States. Israeli’s arms, surveillance and drone industries test their products on the Palestinians.

<snip>

The death blow to the American empire will, as McCoy writes, be the loss of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. This loss will plunge the United States into a crippling, and prolonged depression. It will force a massive contraction of the global military footprint.

The ugly, squalid face of empire, with the loss of the dollar as the reserve currency, will become familiar at home. The bleak economic landscape, with its decay and hopelessness, will accelerate an array of violent and self-destructive pathologies including mass shootings, hate crimes, opioid and heroin overdoses, morbid obesity, suicides, gambling and alcoholism.

The state will increasingly dispense with the fiction of the rule of law to rely exclusively on militarized police, essentially internal armies of occupation, and the prisons and jails, which already hold 25 percent of the world’s prisoners although the United States represents less than 5 percent of global population.

Our demise will probably come more swiftly than we imagine. When revenues shrink or collapse, McCoy points out, empires become “brittle.” An economy heavily dependent on massive government subsidies to produce primarily weapons and munitions, as well as fund military adventurism, will go into a tailspin with a heavily depreciated dollar, falling to perhaps a third of its former value. Prices will dramatically rise because of the steep increase in the cost of imports. Wages in real terms will decline.

The devaluation of Treasury bonds will make paying for our massive deficits onerous, perhaps impossible. The unemployment level will climb to depression era levels. Social assistance programs, because of a contracting budget, will be sharply curtailed or eliminated. This dystopian world will fuel the rage and hyper nationalism that put Donald Trump in the White House. It will spawn an authoritarian state to keep order and, I expect, a Christianized fascism.. . . "



This is all stuff that I have been very slowly coming to realize will happen, as this is what led to the rise of the dictators in Germany, Italy, Spain and Russia. . . sad to see the oligarchs use their mechanations to do it to both China and the US.

It would not surprise me to see them orchestrate a war either. . . .

I trace a lot back to Charlie Wilson.

Two sayings come to mind:

”The road to hell is paved with good intentions".

“No good deed goes unpunished”.
 

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What was this what had happened in Afghanistan during the last 20 years? What was this good for?
 

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Leaving Afghanistan was going to happen and the return of the Taliban was going to happen, so that is not what will kill this country…

What is destroying our country is our inability to kick Russian, Chinese and Iranian influence out of countries south of our border from Mexico to South America!

As long as we allow those three countries to influence countries south of us then yes are demise will happen!

As for leaving countries like Afghanistan, well let China pay the price like we did and like the Soviet Union did because if they for one moment believe they can take that region, well they will learn quick they can not and will lose trillions of dollars.

As for replacing the U.S. Dollar with the Chinese Yuan then let the World do it and suffer the consequence of China ruling them because the World deserve it!

Also the World will learn that the China is a house of cards and it will fall just like the Soviet Union did and if and when it does the World will regret backing China…
 

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Leaving Afghanistan was going to happen and the return of the Taliban was going to happen, so that is not what will kill this country…

What is destroying our country is our inability to kick Russian, Chinese and Iranian influence out of countries south of our border from Mexico to South America! ...

What is "destroying" your country is that you like to force every NATO-member to pay much morney for their own armies - while this is nothing else than a waste of money.
 

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Also the World will learn that the China is a house of cards and it will fall just like the Soviet Union did and if and when it does the World will regret backing China…

Eventually they will collapse, or maybe drown, under the weight of their own real estate debt. I saw a programme about it.
 

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What is "destroying" your country is that you like to force every NATO-member to pay much morney for their own armies - while this is nothing else than a waste of money.

It is not the job of the U.S. to police the World and if you can not pay your fair share to the NATO defense then call China and Russia and I am sure they will give you a discounted price…
 

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Job?



So what?



Idiot.



It's really unbelievable how totally stupid are US-Americans. Take your soldiers - leave Germany - yesterday.

Fine with me, but don’t come a calling when Russia rolls her tanks in with the backing of China…

I mean the idiot is the one that tell their friends to go home because the friend want to go Dutch on the payment, and then cries they have no protection from their true enemies…

Also take the U.N. With you and put it in another country seeing you hate the U.S. so much!
 

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The total devastation of America's international capital, primarily by the "W" administration but strenuously added to by others, has led inevitably to this impasse. America is still great and strong despite these traitors, but it must mend its ways.
 

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What is "destroying" your country is that you like to force every NATO-member to pay much morney for their own armies - while this is nothing else than a waste of money.
To whatever extent this is true, you must also share this message with Mr. Putin.
 

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So what?



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It's really unbelievable how totally stupid are US-Americans. Take your soldiers - leave Germany - yesterday.

How many German companies went bankrupt after the first drawdown?

Who relied on the American military presence for their livelihood.

You haven’t been paying attention

Unless......you don’t live in Germany.
 

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The only way America would lose it's sole super power status was because they allowed another nation to rise and surpass them.

That nation is China and from the moment they were allowed into the W.T.O and the West decided they would expand into their market, the dye was cast. They expanded their influence and worked tireless to usurp the U.S all the while American businesses, politicians, Wall Street and media assisted them. All self-serving, all self-destructive.

If the U.S loses reserve currency status the game is finished. Your per capita wealth will be cut significantly while Chinas will grow by at least as much.
 

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The only way America would lose it's sole super power status was because they allowed another nation to rise and surpass them.

That nation is China and from the moment they were allowed into the W.T.O and the West decided they would expand into their market, the dye was cast. They expanded their influence and worked tireless to usurp the U.S all the while American businesses, politicians and media assisted them. All self-serving, all self-destructive.

If the U.S loses reserve currency status the game is finished. Your per capita wealth will be cut significantly while Chinas will grow by at least as much.

And the World deserve what it get for wanting China over the U.S. …
 

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Fine with me, but don’t come a calling when Russia rolls her tanks in with the backing of China…

I mean the idiot is the one that tell their friends to go home because the friend want to go Dutch on the payment, and then cries they have no protection from their true enemies…

Also take the U.N. With you and put it in another country seeing you hate the U.S. so much!
no comment
 

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And the World deserve what it get for wanting China over the U.S. …

The first to suffer will be those who lose all of their investment in China when the CCP confiscates it. Poetic justice I suppose.

Goldman Sachs, among others (they are far from the only investment firm promoting Chinese investment), have too much influence in the U.S economy, and they are damaging it through their heavy lobbying and investment in China. Some of them are investing U.S citizens pension funds in this country.

Self destructive and dangerous.
 
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America's loss in Afghanistan, is the End of America as the sole Super Power.​

Stupid question.
Sole super power? Not in a very long time.

This general had it figured out a long time ago, guess no one listened.
Major General Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 – June 21, 1940), nicknamed "Old Gimlet Eye", was a senior United States Marine Corps officer who fought in both the Mexican Revolution and World War I. During his 34-year career as a Marine, he participated in military actions in the Philippines, China, and Central America; the Caribbean during the Banana Wars; and France in World War I. Butler was, at the time of his death, the most decorated Marine in U.S. history. By the end of his career, Butler had received 16 medals, five for heroism. He is one of 19 men to receive the Medal of Honor twice, one of three to be awarded both the Marine Corps Brevet Medal (along with Wendell Neville and David Porter) and the Medal of Honor, and the only Marine to be awarded the Brevet Medal and two Medals of Honor, all for separate actions.

In 1935, Butler wrote a book titled War Is a Racket, where he describes and criticizes the workings of the United States in its foreign actions and wars, such as those in which he had been involved, including the American corporations and other imperialist motivations behind them.

America hasn't "won" a war since 1945, a little over 75 years ago.
The evidence is clear, the US has been in for profit 'wars" for a little over 70.
 

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How many German companies went bankrupt after the first drawdown?

Who relied on the American military presence for their livelihood.

You haven’t been paying attention

Unless......you don’t live in Germany.

... and don't forget to take your nukes with you when you will leave Germany.
 

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