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The Atlantic is CFR propaganda. I wouldn't trust them if you waterboarded me.
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it's not like if it weren't for the Taliban, Kandahar would be a shining city on a hill...these people are primitives either way!
"we'll be in Afghanistan forever" - Bob Gates "assured" Hamed Karzai in the Obama years
that tells you all ya need to know, my friends!
You're right it is not a loss. America like Russia fights limited wars to obtains limited goals. In the Afghanistan war, our goals were to get the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 and to deliver justice to Osama bin Laden, to degrade the terrorist threat, and to keep Afghanistan from becoming a base from which attacks could be continued against the United State. We accomplished all of those goals. However, over the 20 year war, we set up other goals that were unrealistic such as creating a lasting democratic style goverment, ridding the nations of the Talaban, equal rights for women, and taking Afghanistan into the 21st century via educations and commerce. These goals can only be accomplished by the people, certainly not an occupying military force.After 20-years and trillions of dollars, not to mention the young American lives, enough is enough.
I don't consider leaving AFG an American loss, anymore than leaving VN was. Look at VN today.
As long as the Taliban stay in AFG they are no threat to the US.
Its up to the Afghans to determine the fate of their country.
Trump said before he was elected he got his news from CNN. He now get's his news from from Fox News and Fox and Friends. He said he's have time to read books.You wouldn't know good work if it was in your face. Rest assured Trump has NEVER read Forbes, the Atlantic, Oil Price, the New Yorker or the US Constitution.
Waste of time waterboarding you. You don't know anything.
Trump said before he was elected he got his news from CNN. He now get's his news from from Fox News and Fox and Friends. He said he's have time to read books.
You're right it is not a loss. America like Russia fights limited wars to obtains limited goals. In the Afghanistan war, our goals were to get the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 and to deliver justice to Osama bin Laden, to degrade the terrorist threat, and to keep Afghanistan from becoming a base from which attacks could be continued against the United State. We accomplished all of those goals. However, over the 20 year war, we set up other goals that were unrealistic such as creating a lasting democratic style goverment, ridding the nations of the Talaban, equal rights for women, and taking Afghanistan into the 21st century via educations and commerce. These goals can only be accomplished by the people, certainly not an occupying military force.
Are you on drugs?"Loss"? What loss?
No.Are you on drugs?
....
Are you on drugs?
Or just living in an alternate reality?
No. . . seriously, I want to know.
Maybe you believe we won in Vietnam too?
You know any Vietnamese do you?Since we claim to believe in democracy and the vast majority of the Vietnamese wanted us out, then by leaving we supported democracy, which means we did win.
You know any Vietnamese do you?
No.. . so just garden variety denial. . .
Biden did what should have been done a long time ago. Get the Fuck Out. We have been sending in troops and withdrawing troops and waiting just little bit longer for the miracle that was never going to happen. We accomplish what went there too do, deny a homeland for the terrorists, get Bin Laden, and take revenge for 9-11 ten years ago. We won but failed to get out. Now it's up to Afghan people. We gave them 20 years of our dollars and American lives. Now it's their turn to fight for freedom, democracy, and the American way of life.We’ve been in Afghanistan 20 years, Joe Biden’s generals told him. All we need is a little more time. The president overruled them, ordering a complete withdrawal of American troops by September 11th.
Madiha Afzal and Michael O’Hanlon of the Brookings Institution articulate the opposition to Biden’s decision to call it quits. Remove the U.S. occupation forces that have maintained stability, they worry, and civil war will soon follow, culminating in the overthrow of the U.S.-backed government in Kabul and the return of the Taliban. They think it will be the late 1990s all over again: women back under burqas, stonings, 14th century Islam providing a safe haven for anti-Western terrorist groups like Al Qaeda.
“The most likely outcome of any quick troop exit this year is very ugly, including ethnic cleansing, mass slaughter, and the ultimate dismemberment of the country,” Ms. Afzal and Mr. O’Hanlon write in USA Today. “No one can see the future, of course, but this type of outcome seems much more likely than any smooth transition to a new government run by a kinder, gentler, more moderate Taliban.” They urge a slower long-term drawdown.
I think they’re wrong.
Afghanistan Under the Taliban: It Won’t Be Like Last Time | Ted Rall's Rallblog
We’ve been in Afghanistan 20 years, Joe Biden’s generals told him. All we need is a little more time. The president overruled them, ordering a complete withdrawal of American troops by September 11th. Madiha Afzal and Michael O’Hanlon of the Brookings Institution articulate the opposition to...
