The Next Chapter of the FBI's Trump Raid Saga Just Dropped

[BWK]

You tard noggins ignore that he acquired the documents while President. After leaving office, he had no access to get them

What planet are you on lame brain?

 

[Marener]

You tard noggins ignore that he acquired the documents while President. After leaving office, he had no access to get them

He didn’t acquire anything. Those documents were and still are the property of the federal government.

The fact he took them from the government at the end of his term doesn’t change that.

 

[BS Filter]

Translation: Sore loser without a defense.

Nothing. You idiots keep telling me Trump is going to be indicted. Nothing. Keep jackin' off.

 

[struth]

Trump will never dodge this prosecution; Possession is the crime.

we know possession alone isn’t a crime because of the clinton classified document investigation

 

[toobfreak]

Those documents were and still are the property of the federal government.

Who told you that bull, CNN or the NYT?

 

[Marener]

Who told you that bull, CNN or the NYT?

Those documents consist of information generated by the US government to assist the president in their duties.

They’re not for Trump’s personal amusement.

 

[toobfreak]

Those documents consist of information generated by the US government to assist the president in their duties.

So they were the presidents if he chose to declassify them according to the Presidential Records Act.

They’re not for Trump’s personal amusement.

Do you think Trump was making paper airplanes out of them? What about those millions of documents Obumma has stored in a Sears warehouse? I bet Hillary got a lot of amusement out of those 33,000 emails about yoga and recipes on her computer; you can tell Hillary is a real yoga buff!

Hasn't helped her much with that facial tick though.

 

[Marener]

So they were the presidents if he chose to declassify them according to the Presidential Records Act.


Do you think Trump was making paper airplanes out of them? What about those millions of documents Obumma has stored in a Sears warehouse? I bet Hillary got a lot of amusement out of those 33,000 emails about yoga and recipes on her computer; you can tell Hillary is a real yoga buff!

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Hasn't helped her much with that facial tick though.

Declassifying documents still doesn’t make them his property. They still belong to the US government. We paid for them. We own them. Trump doesn’t.

Obama does not have millions of documents in a warehouse. NARA does, which is what is supposed to happen.

 

[toobfreak]

The Next Chapter of the FBI's Trump Raid Saga Just Dropped​

It occurs to me Doc that this goes beyond archival or national security concerns; it goes beyond even trying to keep Trump out of running again and getting reelected. I think the Bidenistas are now after stripping Trump of everything possible like any good Marxist of stuff just of personal value to him just to show them that they can out of spite.

At least for another 30 days until the American people are heard and the rule of law is restored and the real ass-kicking begins for these egregious offenses to law and decency.

 

[toobfreak]

Declassifying documents still doesn’t make them his property. They still belong to the US government.

Then why does Obumma have millions of them stored in an old warehouse?

 

[Marener]

Then why does Obumma have millions of them stored in an old warehouse?

He doesn’t. NARA does.

 

[BackAgain]

Trump will never dodge this prosecution; Possession is the crime.

Possession of non classified documents is not the crime and not a crime in this case.

And since the gubmint cannot disprove that the documents had been declassified, the remaining possible counts are all bullshit. The Presidential Records Act is not a criminal statute.

 

[Marener]

Possession of non classified documents is not the crime and not a crime in this case.

And since the gubmint cannot disprove that the documents had been declassified, the remaining possible counts are all bullshit. The Presidential Records Act is not a criminal statute.

Lying about compliance with a grand jury subpoena is a pretty significant problem.

It remains to be seen what was actually declassified.

 

[toobfreak]

Lying about compliance with a grand jury subpoena is a pretty significant problem.

Hope the Bidens remember that in the upcoming impeachment and criminal trials.

It remains to be seen what was actually declassified.

Who are you going to ask, Garland who has absolutely no idea and is just out to get Trump?
The DoD who apparently didn't even miss the documents for years and probably thought
they were on loan to the Chinese?
The only one able to answer that is the highest authority on the matter, the President of
the United States Donald John Trump.

You know, the guy whom the Left advertised starting in 2016 they were going to impeach
by hook or crook any way possible before he even took office.

 

[Marener]

Hope the Bidens remember that in the upcoming impeachment and criminal trials.


Who are you going to ask, Garland who has absolutely no idea and is just out to get Trump?
The DoD who apparently didn't even miss the documents for years and probably thought
they were on loan to the Chinese?
The only one able to answer that is the highest authority on the matter, the President of
the United States Donald John Trump.

You know, the guy whom the Left advertised starting in 2016 they were going to impeach
by hook or crook any way possible before he even took office.

Trump left the government in disarray because he’s a child. The government figured out pretty early that they were missing things. They’ve been trying to get this back from Trump for well over a year. Trump hasn’t cooperated.

Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.

 

[toobfreak]

Trump left the government in disarray because he’s a child.

I see. So, Trump who is a child and is this one single lone person with no experience ever working in DC, who is this incompetent NY real estate dude totally over his head and overwhelmed, singlehandedly set the entire federal government on its head in total disarray just coming into Washington and actually trying to do what the Framers set out for every new president to do, to instill his own vision for a prosperous nation as every president hopefully does every four years despite having only limited cooperation from the congress. Thanks for letting our enemies know that.

The government figured out pretty early that they were missing things.

I see. And it has taken them YEARS to get them back, from a single, retired real estate developer on his Florida estate between golf games in one of the most famous locations on the planet, who is already in touch with the government every single day.

They’ve been trying to get this back from Trump for well over a year. Trump hasn’t cooperated.

I see. You mean despite a clear record on file of his cooperating broadly. Trump is just a glutton for punishment, not that the Biden government isn't manufacturing yet a 15th way to abuse and hassle people they don't like just as they've uselessly and futility harassed every other person remotely connected to the guy never with any justification trying to make them out as this terrible thing despite never being able to prove it, other than endless, baseless, fictitious stories drummed up and printed in the complicit left-wing-controlled media?

 

[Marener]

I see. So, Trump who is a child and is this one single lone person with no experience ever working in DC, who is this incompetent NY real estate dude totally over his head and overwhelmed, singlehandedly set the entire federal government on its head in total disarray just coming into Washington and actually trying to do what the Framers set out for every new president to do, to instill his own vision for a prosperous nation as every president hopefully does every four years despite having only limited cooperation from the congress. Thanks for letting our enemies know that.



I see. And it has taken them YEARS to get them back, from a single, retired real estate developer on his Florida estate between golf games in one of the most famous locations on the planet, who is already in touch with the government every single day.



I see. You mean despite a clear record on file of his cooperating broadly. Trump is just a glutton for punishment, not that the Biden government isn't manufacturing yet a 15th way to abuse and hassle people they don't like just as they've uselessly and futility harassed every other person remotely connected to the guy never with any justification trying to make them out as this terrible thing despite never being able to prove it, other than endless, baseless, fictitious stories drummed up and printed in the complicit left-wing-controlled media?

There is no record of Trump cooperating. There’s a record of Trump delaying and delivering only part of what was requested/demanded.

Trump brought this upon himself. He was given ample opportunity to avoid everything.

 

[toobfreak]

There is no record of Trump cooperating.

LIE

There’s a record of Trump delaying and delivering only part of what was requested/demanded.

WRONG

Trump brought this upon himself.

SURE RIGHT

 

[Chillicothe]

I thought todays NYT's reporting on this latest perspective on Trump taking those docs was interesting:

"How Trump Deflected Demands for Documents, Enmeshing Aides"

The former president exhibited a pattern of dissembling about the material he took from the White House, creating legal risk not just for himself but also some of his lawyers."
Former President Donald J. Trump spent a year and a half deflecting demands from the federal government to return documents. By Maggie Haberman and Michael S. Schmidt


Oct. 8, 2022Updated 9:32 a.m. ET

"Late last year, as the National Archives ratcheted up the pressure on former President Donald J. Trump to return boxes of records he had taken from the White House to his Mar-a-Lago club, he came up with an idea to resolve the looming showdown: cut a deal.
Mr. Trump, still determined to show he had been wronged by the F.B.I. investigation into his 2016 campaign’s ties to Russia, was angry with the National Archives and Records Administration for its unwillingness to hand over a batch of sensitive documents that he thought proved his claims.
In exchange for those documents, Mr. Trump told advisers, he would return to the National Archives the boxes of material he had taken to Mar-a-Lago, in Palm Beach, Fla.
Mr. Trump’s aides never pursued the idea. But the episode is one in a series that demonstrates how Mr. Trump spent a year and a half deflecting, delaying and sometimes leading aides to dissemble when it came to demands from the National Archives and ultimately the Justice Department to return the material he had taken, interviews and documents show.

That pattern was strikingly similar to how Mr. Trump confronted inquiries into his conduct while in office: entertain or promote outlandish ideas, eschew the advice of lawyers and mislead them, then push lawyers and aides to impede investigators.
In the process, some of his lawyers have increased their own legal exposure and had to hire lawyers themselves. And Mr. Trump has ended up in the middle of an investigation into his handling of the documents that has led the Justice Department to seek evidence of obstruction.

How Trump Deflected Demands for Documents, Enmeshing Aides (Published 2022)

The former president exhibited a pattern of dissembling about the material he took from the White House, creating legal risk not just for himself but also some of his lawyers.

www.nytimes.com

 

[BWK]

we know possession alone isn’t a crime because of the clinton classified document investigation

Clinton didn't steal classified documents when she left office you idiot.

She also didn't plead the Fifth like a bunch of these MAGA idiots.