FBI doubted probable cause for Mar-a-Lago raid but pushed forward amid pressure from Biden DOJ, emails reveal

[Nostra]

The reasons stated were lack of proof.

Lies. The reason he didn’t charge is because there is more neuron activity in Biden’s Depends than there is in his noggin.

 

[Nostra]

He couldn’t convince a jury because he didn’t have proof.

He said they uncovered evidence because they uncovered evidence.

What you don’t seem to understand is that evidence and proof are not the same thing. I doubt you’ll ever understand that because you refuse to listen.

Nope. He didn’t charge him because his brain isn’t working.

 

[Marener]

Nope. He didn’t charge him because his brain isn’t working.

 

[ThisIsMe]

He couldn’t convince a jury because he didn’t have proof.

He had the files, the spoken word of the president. Either of those would be enough to convict a republican in a democrats eyes.

He said they uncovered evidence because they uncovered evidence.

Yep, see above.

What you don’t seem to understand is that evidence and proof are not the same thing. I doubt you’ll ever understand that because you refuse to listen.

no, it’s you who refuse to listen. What do you do when you have evidence? You build a case and try it, and let the jury decide. Hur had the evidence, he had the files, he had the spoke word of the president TELLING him he willfully took them, but because the JURY wouldn’t see it as an intentional action and because the jury would be sympathetic to convict Biden, he decided it wasn’t worth going through the effort.

NONE of that says Biden DIDNT do it, it says that Hur saw an uphill battle because of the condition that Biden was in.

Biden used the same excuse that trump did “I thought I was entitled to it”, but they only went after trump

 

[Marener]

He had the files, the spoken word of the president. Either of those would be enough to convict a republican in a democrats eyes.



Yep, see above.



no, it’s you who refuse to listen. What do you do when you have evidence? You build a case and try it, and let the jury decide. Hur had the evidence, he had the files, he had the spoke word of the president TELLING him he willfully took them, but because the JURY wouldn’t see it as an intentional action and because the jury would be sympathetic to convict Biden, he decided it wasn’t worth going through the effort.

NONE of that says Biden DIDNT do it, it says that Hur saw an uphill battle because of the condition that Biden was in.

Biden used the same excuse that trump did “I thought I was entitled to it”, but they only went after trump

Hur would have to prove it was an intentional action. If the evidence can’t convince a jury that it was intentional, then it means he doesn’t have proof, by definition.

You don’t just “try” with criminal prosecutions. The DoJ manual, the rules that all prosecutors are SUPPOSED to follow (and no longer do) say that the prosecutor should only try cases where they believe they will get a conviction.

 

[Blisterfinger]

He had the files, the spoken word of the president. Either of those would be enough to convict a republican in a democrats eyes.



Yep, see above.



no, it’s you who refuse to listen. What do you do when you have evidence? You build a case and try it, and let the jury decide. Hur had the evidence, he had the files, he had the spoke word of the president TELLING him he willfully took them, but because the JURY wouldn’t see it as an intentional action and because the jury would be sympathetic to convict Biden, he decided it wasn’t worth going through the effort.

NONE of that says Biden DIDNT do it, it says that Hur saw an uphill battle because of the condition that Biden was in.

Biden used the same excuse that trump did “I thought I was entitled to it”, but they only went after trump

It was all political

 

[Nostra]

Hur would have to prove it was an intentional action. If the evidence can’t convince a jury that it was intentional, then it means he doesn’t have proof, by definition.

You don’t just “try” with criminal prosecutions. The DoJ manual, the rules that all prosecutors are SUPPOSED to follow (and no longer do) say that the prosecutor should only try cases where they believe they will get a conviction.

Moroner lies.

 

[Marener]

Moroner lies.

 

[Nostra]

^Throws in the towel^

 

[Blisterfinger]

Moroner lies.

The whole thing was politics. Biden got away with a crime because he had help politically. They prosecuted Trump because they had help politically and it was the Optics they were looking for. The rule of law is of no consequence for some but huge consequence for others and such is the way of propaganda.

 

[Blisterfinger]

^Throws in the towel^

At least he resisted his losing urge of saying " blah blah blah ". Mariner is fun to best. He runs around in circles with alternative reasoning and facts. Hard to pin down!
Congrats

 

[ThisIsMe]

Hur would have to prove it was an intentional action. If the evidence can’t convince a jury that it was intentional, then it means he doesn’t have proof, by definition.

You don’t just “try” with criminal prosecutions. The DoJ manual, the rules that all prosecutors are SUPPOSED to follow (and no longer do) say that the prosecutor should only try cases where they believe they will get a conviction.

How much more evidence do you need than bidens own words saying he knew he had them?

These things were not taken by accident. There are people who surround the president that know and advise him.

If they would up in his possession, it was because he wanted them there. He even admitted that he thought his notebooks were his personal property.

Look, if you think that there was no evidence of intent for Biden, then there is also no evidence for intent for trump, in the action of taking the documents. It works both ways here.

 

[Marener]

How much more evidence do you need than bidens own words saying he knew he had them?

These things were not taken by accident. There are people who surround the president that know and advise him.

If they would up in his possession, it was because he wanted them there. He even admitted that he thought his notebooks were his personal property.

Look, if you think that there was no evidence of intent for Biden, then there is also no evidence for intent for trump, in the action of taking the documents. It works both ways here.

Hur discussed this point at length. If the entire case rests on a single offhand comment about “finding the classified stuff”, a statement without precision or specificity, then you have a very weak case.

The issue with the notebooks is an entirely separate issue, where Hur concluded that Biden would have reasonable believed his notebooks were allowed given historical precedent. Congress is welcome to update the law to address this issue.

 

[beagle9]

Hur discussed this point at length. If the entire case rests on a single offhand comment about “finding the classified stuff”, a statement without precision or specificity, then you have a very weak case.

The issue with the notebooks is an entirely separate issue, where Hur concluded that Biden would have reasonable believed his notebooks were allowed given historical precedent. Congress is welcome to update the law to address this issue.

A weak case can turn into a strong case once the trial and discovery begins, but Hur masterfully protected Biden because undoubtedly he thought that the Democrats were a powerful force to be reckoned with in the future. Glad you admitted that there was a case.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Hur discussed this point at length. If the entire case rests on a single offhand comment about “finding the classified stuff”, a statement without precision or specificity, then you have a very weak case.

The issue with the notebooks is an entirely separate issue, where Hur concluded that Biden would have reasonable believed his notebooks were allowed given historical precedent. Congress is welcome to update the law to address this issue.

If the notebooks contained classified writings, then he would have known he couldn’t keep them.

Hur stated that Biden read classified material verbatim to his ghost writer, he said Biden told his ghost writer that the classified materials were downstairs.

 

[Marener]

If the notebooks contained classified writings, then he would have known he couldn’t keep them.

Hur stated that Biden read classified material verbatim to his ghost writer, he said Biden told his ghost writer that the classified materials were downstairs.

Not so. Reagan had classified notebooks and the DoJ didn’t prosecute him or take them away. Biden knew this, giving him reason to believe that it was allowed.

It would help if you had actually read the Hur report.

 

[Marener]

A weak case can turn into a strong case once the trial and discovery begins, but Hur masterfully protected Biden because undoubtedly he thought that the Democrats were a powerful force to be reckoned with in the future. Glad you admitted that there was a case.

“Discovery” takes place before trial and was completed when Hur wrote his report.

 

[beagle9]

Not so. Reagan had classified notebooks and the DoJ didn’t prosecute him or take them away. Biden knew this, giving him reason to believe that it was allowed.

It would help if you had actually read the Hur report.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse... Try something else leftist.

 

[Marener]

Ignorance of the law is no excuse... Try something else leftist.

It’s not ignorance, it’s knowledge of precedent.

Authoritarians like you want to change the rules whenever it suits you.

 

[beagle9]

It’s not ignorance, it’s knowledge of precedent.

Authoritarians like you want to change the rules whenever it suits you.

Give it up leftist..