The Muslim claim to Jerusalem

[Lipush]

You all believe something different just like Christians.

All Christians believe in Jesus, it what hold Christianity together.

What holds Judaism together, among other things, is the cherishing of Jerusalem

 

[Lipush]

Read post 42, and its from Wiki of a poll taken in 2001. Your PM is secular. I am not saying you don't believe in God how would I know, if Daniel does I have no idea, but many Jews are secular. Zionism is a political movement, not a Godly movement. Look at all the bloodshed once again spilling in Jerusalem since the Jews have returned, and that is the will of God, certainty not the God I believe in. Everything you stand for, I imagine , were you born there? and your kids? I was born here and I care about this country as well. I find it funny that some Jews , the orthodox ones , do not believe in Zionism and then we have non Jews who believe in Zionism. I don't care, but you have people locked up illegally and you have yourself an outdoor prison, with a warden.

Our prime minister is secular, yet just weeks ago in his speech he said that may God's will it'll be, that Israel will win the good fight, and added the words of our Rabbis- "The enernal nation is not afraid of a long journey".

Zionism is currently a political and national movement, and it is rooted in the Torah; God himself told Abraham to leave the land he sat in, to move to the Promised Land; The first Zionist the world had ever known was Abraham. Bloodshed was always in history, Christians should know better than anyone about bloodshed, and Jerusalem was always under fights.

I wasn't born here, no; But my mother was. And her mother before her, and her mother before her, back to the end of the 1800's. My children will be born here and so will theirs. That's the chain you cannot cut.

Most of the orthodox don't believe in Zionism because by their thinking, it's detaching from Judaism. the rest, maybe 10%, believe Zionism is against God because the Messiah is not yet here.

The orthodox who are against that are minority, as well

 

[Lipush]

Give me a link. I have a link for you. Even your PM was born to secular parents. Admit it. You might believe in God but your a minority. Never mind I will post link for you.

Why not. Be sure though, that you use a good translator :


ynet 80% ?ž?”?™?”?•?“?™? ?‘?™?©?¨??œ: ?ž??ž?™? ?™? ?‘??œ?•?”?™? - ?™?”?“?•?×

 

[Lipush]

Navi Pilay said the Palestinians beat their wives because of Israel.. are we that bad?

She said we're war criminals for not giving Iron Dome to Hamas.

After that, nothing surprises me.

 

[Lipush]

How do you know they don't care about Jerusalem? Because you say so? I bet the Palestinians that live there care as much about their mosque and dome of the rock as do the Jewish for the mountain behind the "wailing wall" and some maybe more. Israel wont give an inch, well I think the Palestinians are too proud to live like cattle.

Palestinian call the place "Beit Al-Maqdas", as a reminder that King Solomon's temple was there long before theirs.

They deny the same history to which they admit.

So what gives?

 

[Penelope]

The Jews...So ******* smart there's no way to beat them.
Why, post ONE thing against them and...you're STILL connected to the Internet.

They don't care about peons like you or me. They do monitor the net though, they own that as well.

 

[Daniyel]

They don't care about peons like you or me. They do monitor the net though, they own that as well.

Monitoring the Arab Media, true, but not controlling it.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

They don't care about peons like you or me. They do monitor the net though, they own that as well.

 

[Penelope]

I guess you're gonna have to decide whether or not you actually believe in Yahweh or not.
First of all, you have proven you're an ass hole with, "Yahweh forbid Jews from having anything to do with them"; like, show me the verse.
If you believe in the Torah, God took it away from the Canaanites.
If you DON'T believe in the Torah, your post was a complete waste.

The majority of the Zionist do not believe in Yahweh , but they use him anyway.

 

[Penelope]

Are you tongue tied?

 

[Penelope]

Palestinian call the place "Beit Al-Maqdas", as a reminder that King Solomon's temple was there long before theirs.

They deny the same history to which they admit.

So what gives?

I know they have respect for Abraham, Moses and Jesus, but can you refer me to Muslim writing that they built the mosque there as a reminder that King Solomon's temple was there before theirs. If so I'm not sure how they are denying the same history they admit , Solomons temple has been long gone. Are you saying that in the 600's AD the Muslims should of rebuilt Solomons temple instead of their own?

 

[irosie91]

Simon Bar Kokhba took the title Nasi Israel and ruled over a ministate that was virtually independent for two and a half years. The era of the redemption of Israel was announced, contracts were signed and a large quantity of Bar Kochba Revolt coinage was struck over foreign coins.
The Jewish leaders carefully planned the second revolt to avoid the numerous mistakes that had plagued the first Great Jewish Revolt sixty years earlier. In 132, a revolt led by Bar Kokhba quickly spread from Modi'in across the country, cutting off the Roman garrison in Jerusalem....... (read the rest from link below)

Note he took the title NASI ISRAEL, but he didn't turn out to be the Jewish messiah either did he. You know if the Jews had never fought against Rome they would of never been kicked out, but one want to be Messiah after another tried to overrule the Romans, and it never happened.
Bar Kokhba revolt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I read you post with "interest" Penelope-----and did notice that you wrote BAR KOCHBA "took the title NASI", "but he did not turn out to be messiah"------well Penelope---with the statement you proved that you have no idea what NASI
means-------since you do not know----just ask---and stop making a fool of yourself. Instead of citing wiki---why not post up some of the islamo Nazi stuff you read

 

[ChrisL]

I read you post with "interest" Penelope-----and did notice that you wrote BAR KOCHBA "took the title NASI", "but he did not turn out to be messiah"------well Penelope---with the statement you proved that you have no idea what NASI
means-------since you do not know----just ask---and stop making a fool of yourself. Instead of citing wiki---why not post up some of the islamo Nazi stuff you read

I think she is just dishonest and a terrorist sympathizer. You can explain until you are blue in the face, and it won't change a thing. She is going out of her way to make excuses for the terrorists.

 

[irosie91]

I think she is just dishonest and a terrorist sympathizer. You can explain until you are blue in the face, and it won't change a thing. She is going out of her way to make excuses for the terrorists.

good point-----but I am a compassionate person---I cannot
bear to watch an ignorant person STRUGGLE to pretend she
knows something. The poor thing cannot even understand
a simple wiki bit

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Are you tongue tied?

The Jews don't own the internet. The BS was all I could say at the time.

 

[Penelope]

Why not. Be sure though, that you use a good translator :


ynet 80% ?ž?”?™?”?•?“?™? ?‘?™?©?¨??œ: ?ž??ž?™? ?™? ?‘??œ?•?”?™? - ?™?”?“?•?×

So they are saying 80% believe in a higher being or God. Ok, so they are spiritual more or less, perhaps more into
Kabbala?

 

[irosie91]

So they are saying 80% believe in a higher being or God. Ok, so they are spiritual more or less, perhaps more into
Kabbala?

OH GEE!!! Penelope-----all I did was BLINK---and you are
back humiliating yourself. You have no more concept of
what Kabbala is than what the Talmud is. A piece of good
advice is "stick to what you know" -------is there some subject
in which you have any level of proficiency??? think hard-----
most of us are patient people.........do you cook? play ping pong????

 

[Penelope]

The Jews don't own the internet. The BS was all I could say at the time.

Google, Facebook, You Tube, Wiki to name a few, many Jews will change their name and religion to hide the fact they are Jews, so who know what else, not to mention the multiple news sites.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Google, Facebook, You Tube, Wiki to name a few, many Jews will change their name and religion to hide the fact they are Jews, so who know what else, not to mention the multiple news sites.

That is up to them. But your assertion that Jews own the internet is different to that and BS.

 

[irosie91]

Google, Facebook, You Tube, Wiki to name a few, many Jews will change their name and religion to hide the fact they are Jews, so who know what else, not to mention the multiple news sites.

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HUH??? gee------I AM A JEW Penelope-----my real name is not exactly ROSIE------it is a SN----- I was born in the USA---
---north east USA. As were my parents. Politically they
were liberal democrats My entire education----public schools--and state school. Rosie is not my real name---it is
a SN. What are YOU HIDING "Penelope"???

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Penelope seems to me to be one of those conspiracy theorists. She is also frightened of the Jewish people and Israel, but like other who are frightened, secretly admire them but would never admit to it.