The lies of Milankovich Cycles aka McBullshit - where was land mass Antarctica 70 million years ago

[DennisPTate]

Earth climate has LAWS.

One LAW is that land within 600 miles to a pole goes into ice age until it moves 600 miles away from the pole.

There is 100% correlation today. There is no evidence that LAW has ever been broken.

Using that definition, North American Ice Age was 30-50 million years old. Milankovich wants you to believe 2.5 mile thick glacier grew to that height in 70k years...

Wow!

But what about the evidence that the magnetic North Pole is moving toward Siberia?

 

[DennisPTate]

If some predator chased them into ice age glacier, that's what happened....

That is certainly one logical possibility. But apparently the magnitude of the number of frozen pre-historic animals is so great that this logical explanation for a few cases, could not work for hundreds and hundreds of similar cases of frozen pre-historic animals under the ice in Alaska, Greenland, Siberia, the entire Arctic and to a degree under Antarctica as well.

 

[EMH]

The FBI, the CIA the NSA and Canada's CSIS all have ethical and sincere operatives who are doing their best to make this world a better and safer place. The same is true of "Mossad."

Mossad offs 911 Truthers and CO2 FRAUD Truthers.

I know first hand... they've tried.


Anyone who believes CIA and Mossad have benign motives is lost....

May I quote your simple statement

You can quote anytime. The issue isn't really a "conspiracy." homO did go "silent" on climate 2010 to 2012 and then bought beachfront property on an island last hit by Cat 5 in 1938 (the last time a Cat 5 got that far north)


Read this OP carefully, it is loaded with truth...

Thread 'The credibility of Barack - and hence Kamala and the Democrats : issue Climate Change'

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Barack is clearly a big fan of the Co2 FRAUD.

Prior to 2010 Barack said Climate Change is the greatest threat. Then there was two years of silence...

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Then in 2012 once again Climate Change was the greatest threat according to...

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[EMH]

Wow!

But what about the evidence that the magnetic North Pole is moving toward Siberia?

The Earth magnetic field is definitely "fluid" and not constant. But it has no impact on the amount of ice on Earth, and the amount of ice on Earth dictates Earth's climate.

ocean levels
temperature
humidity
air pressure

 

[EMH]

That is certainly one logical possibility. But apparently the magnitude of the number of frozen pre-historic animals is so great that this logical explanation for a few cases, could not work for hundreds and hundreds of similar cases of frozen pre-historic animals under the ice in Alaska, Greenland, Siberia, the entire Arctic and to a degree under Antarctica as well.

Those animals may have first tried to find cover in a cave etc. not knowing the weather was just going to get worse. There are many explanations. But the data we have on what dictates the amount of ice on Earth is where land is relative to the poles. Two polar oceans, no land near the poles, no ice, oceans higher, Earth warmer, wetter, higher pressure.

 

[DennisPTate]

The Earth magnetic field is definitely "fluid" and not constant. But it has no impact on the amount of ice on Earth, and the amount of ice on Earth dictates Earth's climate.

ocean levels
temperature
humidity
air pressure

But, if the magnetic North pole moves toward Siberia, then that could explain the warming that has happened in Canada's Arctic, northern Alaska as well as at least some of the changes on Greenland.

 

[EMH]

the warming that has happened in Canada's Arctic

Arctic Ocean is growing via Gakkel Ridge fault. When land is replaced by water near the poles, it warms, ice melts etc.

But whether Arctic is losing net ice, that's different, because by far the largest chunk of ice, Greenland, is growing. Asia, Europe and NA are moving away from North Pole.

 

[DennisPTate]

Arctic Ocean is growing via Gakkel Ridge fault. When land is replaced by water near the poles, it warms, ice melts etc.

But whether Arctic is losing net ice, that's different, because by far the largest chunk of ice, Greenland, is growing. Asia, Europe and NA are moving away from North Pole.

The time lapse images of the Arctic Ice as seen from space over a couple of decades indicate that some warming is happening in Canada's Arctic. One of the reasons for this is because ice sheets tend to reflect sunlight back into space but once the ice is gone for a few more weeks out of the year then water with no ice covering can absorb more energy from the sun. My guess is that this general trend will eventually affect the Land Based Greenland Ice Sheet?

Timelapse Sea Ice extent Northern hemisphere 1978-2023​

 

[EMH]

The time lapse images of the Arctic Ice as seen from space over a couple of decades indicate that some warming is happening in Canada's Arctic. One of the reasons for this is because ice sheets tend to reflect sunlight back into space but once the ice is gone for a few more weeks out of the year then water with no ice covering can absorb more energy from the sun. My guess is that this general trend will eventually affect the Land Based Greenland Ice Sheet?

Timelapse Sea Ice extent Northern hemisphere 1978-2023​

Another "minor issue" regarding Arctic Ocean sea ice loss, especially the "dramatic" losses in 2005 and 2007


Notice this is from 2008, the year after 500 "Global Warming melting Arctic Sea Ice" headlines

Volcanoes Erupt Beneath Arctic Ice

Underwater volcanoes show evidence of explosive eruptions.

www.livescience.com

"They formed along the Gakkel Ridge, a lengthy crack in the ocean crust where two rocky plates are spreading apart,"



And while CO2 FRAUD was screaming about Arctic Sea Ice loss in 2007, they never showed a MAP of WHERE THE ICE LOSS was because

IT WAS ALL DIRECTLY OVER GAKKEL RIDGE

 

[DennisPTate]

Another "minor issue" regarding Arctic Ocean sea ice loss, especially the "dramatic" losses in 2005 and 2007


Notice this is from 2008, the year after 500 "Global Warming melting Arctic Sea Ice" headlines

Volcanoes Erupt Beneath Arctic Ice

Underwater volcanoes show evidence of explosive eruptions.

www.livescience.com

"They formed along the Gakkel Ridge, a lengthy crack in the ocean crust where two rocky plates are spreading apart,"



And while CO2 FRAUD was screaming about Arctic Sea Ice loss in 2007, they never showed a MAP of WHERE THE ICE LOSS was because

IT WAS ALL DIRECTLY OVER GAKKEL RIDGE

Wow!

I have read a lot about this issue and so far this is the first time that I read about that obviously critical detail!
[I just dropped you a direct message].

 

[EMH]

Wow!

I have read a lot about this issue and so far this is the first time that I read about that obviously critical detail!
[I just dropped you a direct message].

I've been at this for a long time. Virtually nothing they claim is ever "as they say."

 

[Old Rocks]

You already hit the nail on the head, except you didn't realize your side IS LYING ITS ASS OFF AGAIN...




Everyone who understands plate tectonics agrees. McBullshit tosses tectonics in the trash because tectonics outs Co2 as FRAUD...

Silly ass, you have no more understanding of Plate Tectonics than you do of the Milankovitch Cycles. Those cycles began to become a major player in our climate over 2 million years ago when the peninsula between North and South America closed, and the rapid uplift of the Himalayan mountains began to remove CO2 from the atmosphere.

 

[Old Rocks]

You already hit the nail on the head, except you didn't realize your side IS LYING ITS ASS OFF AGAIN...




Everyone who understands plate tectonics agrees. McBullshit tosses tectonics in the trash because tectonics outs Co2 as FRAUD...

You already hit the nail on the head, except you didn't realize your side IS LYING ITS ASS OFF AGAIN...




Everyone who understands plate tectonics agrees. McBullshit tosses tectonics in the trash because tectonics outs Co2 as FRAUD...

Silly ass, you have no more understanding of plate tectonics than you do of the Milankovitch Cycles. The Milankovitch Cycles came into play big time when the peninsula between North and South America closed. Add to that the rapid uplift of the Himalayan Mountains which rapidly depleted the CO2.

 

[Old Rocks]

Another "minor issue" regarding Arctic Ocean sea ice loss, especially the "dramatic" losses in 2005 and 2007


Notice this is from 2008, the year after 500 "Global Warming melting Arctic Sea Ice" headlines

Volcanoes Erupt Beneath Arctic Ice

Underwater volcanoes show evidence of explosive eruptions.

www.livescience.com

"They formed along the Gakkel Ridge, a lengthy crack in the ocean crust where two rocky plates are spreading apart,"



And while CO2 FRAUD was screaming about Arctic Sea Ice loss in 2007, they never showed a MAP of WHERE THE ICE LOSS was because

IT WAS ALL DIRECTLY OVER GAKKEL RIDGE

My, my, such a lot of dumbfuckery. And what to real scientists say? This is from a meeting of the American Geophysical Union.

 

[Old Rocks]

34 million years
Antarctica has been encased in ice for over 34 million years, with significant ice formation beginning around this time. This transformation marked a shift from a warmer, forested environment to the icy landscape we see today, driven by climate changes and a drop in carbon dioxide levels.

Natural History Museum+5
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=0e8f...saW1hdGUtY2hhbmdlLWFudGFyY3RpY2EuaHRtbA&ntb=1
A drop in CO2 levels. LOL

 

[Old Rocks]

Yes
Yes, during the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum (PETM), alligators were present near the North Pole. This period, approximately 55 million years ago, saw a significant warming of the Earth's climate, with temperatures rising more than 20°F higher than today. The PETM was marked by the spread of subtropical forests to northern latitudes and the flourishing of new animal species in lush new habitats. Alligators, along with other large reptiles, thrived in this warmer climate, indicating that the North Pole was not always frozen and could have had a more temperate climate during this time.

Cambridge University Press & Assessment+2
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.................. LOL

 

[EMH]

And what to real scientists say?

The endless problem of that faulty HEBREW TO ENGLISH translation software...


Actually, science is about THEORY and DATA, not PARROTING, FUDGE, and FRAUD....

 

[EMH]

34 million years
Antarctica has been encased in ice for over 34 million years, with significant ice formation beginning around this time. This transformation marked a shift from a warmer, forested environment to the icy landscape we see today, driven by climate changes and a drop in carbon dioxide levels.

34 million is younger than most other real estimates. 40 was the accepted number 12 years ago.

But at least it isn't Dennis Quaid style 3 days...


BTW, quick question...

WHERE relative to SOUTH POLE was LAND MASS ANTARCTICA 34 million years ago?

 

[EMH]

Yes
Yes, during the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum (PETM), alligators were present near the North Pole. This period, approximately 55 million years ago, saw a significant warming of the Earth's climate, with temperatures rising more than 20°F higher than today. The PETM was marked by the spread of subtropical forests to northern latitudes and the flourishing of new animal species in lush new habitats. Alligators, along with other large reptiles, thrived in this warmer climate, indicating that the North Pole was not always frozen and could have had a more temperate climate during this time.
Cambridge University Press & Assessment+2
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.................. LOL

Those are fossils on land that has moved for 55 million years. There are 70 million year old dinosaur fossils on AA, because AA was nowhere near South Pole 70 million years ago...

CO2 fraud is now completely ignoring tectonic plate movement, because if land moves... and all the land near the poles has all the ice... then CO2 isn't the cause.. LOL!!

 

[Old Rocks]

Those are fossils on land that has moved for 55 million years. There are 70 million year old dinosaur fossils on AA, because AA was nowhere near South Pole 70 million years ago...

CO2 fraud is now completely ignoring tectonic plate movement, because if land moves... and all the land near the poles has all the ice... then CO2 isn't the cause.. LOL!!

Once again you prove your ignorance. 55 million years ago the north shore of Alaska and Canada were much nearer the north pole than they are today. And Antarctica was down by the south pole by 94 million years ago. Here you can see the relative positions of the continents over the last 650 million years ago;

Continental drift illustrated: from the late Cambrian Period to millions of years in the future | Britannica

A time-lapse representation of Earth changing through geologic time, from the late Proterozoic Eon (c. 650 million years ago) to the projected period of Pangea Proxima (c. 250 million years from now).

www.britannica.com