The "climate studies" that support "President Trump's position" on climate change

[Old Rocks]

How many warnings from climate fearing people have not materialized?... answer... every single one of them....

Oh my, the dumbest of ***** tells an outright lie. So, just to post one of the very many warnings that scientists gave in the past that has come to be;

Publication Abstracts​

Hansen et al. 1981​

Hansen, J., D. Johnson, A. Lacis, S. Lebedeff, P. Lee, D. Rind, and G. Russell, 1981: Climate impact of increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide. Science, 213, 957-966, doi:10.1126/science.213.4511.957.

The global temperature rose 0.2°C between the middle 1960s and 1980, yielding a warming of 0.4°C in the past century. This temperature increase is consistent with the calculated effect due to measured increases of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Variations of volcanic aerosols and possibly solar luminosity appear to be primary causes of observed fluctuations about the mean trend of increasing temperature. It is shown that the anthropogenic carbon dioxide warming should emerge from the noise level of natural climate variability by the end of the century, and there is a high probability of warming in the 1980s. Potential effects on climate in the 21st century include the creation of drought-prone regions in North America and central Asia as part of a shifting of climatic zones, erosion of the West Antarctic ice sheet with a consequent worldwide rise in sea level, and opening of the fabled Northwest Passage.

NASA GISS: Hansen et al. 1981: Climate impact of increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide

www.giss.nasa.gov

 

[Robert W]

Well, posting the conclusions of real climatologists and geologists on this post is just throwing gold in front of pigs. The MAGAts here cannot and do not want to understand science, and avoid any kind of acquaintance with evidence.

Here are two climate scientists you should listen to.

 

[Old Rocks]

Chicken little....

Over 700 fires now burning in Canada, smoke from those fires clear down into Texas. France and Spain having record fires. In fact, major fires in Turkey, Greece and other European nations. Record floods in the South and East of the US. Also in many other nations. India's farmers have lost major crops from unseasonal rains. And so many more weather related disasters this year. But you MAGAt liars will deny anything at all is happening. Just keep kissing that shitty orange ass, seems to make you real happy.

 

[Robert W]

Variations of volcanic aerosols and possibly solar luminosity appear to be primary causes of observed fluctuations about the mean trend of increasing temperature.

See, he does not blame humans.

 

[Old Rocks]

Here are two climate scientists you should listen to.

Lindzen testified before Congress as to the harmlessness of tobacco use. Curry has lost all credibility in the scientific community for her brazen misinterpretation of evidence. I don't listen to liars and fools.

 

[Robert W]

Over 700 fires now burning in Canada, smoke from those fires clear down into Texas. France and Spain having record fires. In fact, major fires in Turkey, Greece and other European nations. Record floods in the South and East of the US. Also in many other nations. India's farmers have lost major crops from unseasonal rains. And so many more weather related disasters this year. But you MAGAt liars will deny anything at all is happening. Just keep kissing that shitty orange ass, seems to make you real happy.

Lightning not temperature sets forests on fire.

 

[Old Rocks]

See, he does not blame humans.

Damn. You have zero ability to read with understanding.

Variations of volcanic aerosols and possibly solar luminosity appear to be primary causes of observed fluctuations about the mean trend of increasing temperature. It is shown that the anthropogenic carbon dioxide warming should emerge from the noise level of natural climate variability by the end of the century, and there is a high probability of warming in the 1980s. Potential effects on climate in the 21st century include the creation of drought-prone regions in North America and central Asia as part of a shifting of climatic zones, erosion of the West Antarctic ice sheet with a consequent worldwide rise in sea level, and opening of the fabled Northwest Passage.

 

[Old Rocks]

See, he does not blame humans.

Dr. Hansen stated quite clearly that he expected the imprint of our addition of GHG's to the atmosphere to emerge from the noise of normal climate fluctuations by the end of the century, probably in the 1980's. And that is exactly what happened.

 

[Rambunctious]

Over 700 fires now burning in Canada, smoke from those fires clear down into Texas. France and Spain having record fires. In fact, major fires in Turkey, Greece and other European nations. Record floods in the South and East of the US. Also in many other nations. India's farmers have lost major crops from unseasonal rains. And so many more weather related disasters this year. But you MAGAt liars will deny anything at all is happening. Just keep kissing that shitty orange ass, seems to make you real happy.

I grew up in California... I can count a dozen time's my dad up on the roof with a hose as fire burned in the hills... but it stopped at bulldozed fire breaks... it didn't keep burning for days... because we managed the brush and debris... electric companies sent crews out to cut back dry and dead vegetation and clip branches from near power lines...
Today they would be sued for that by the state... and Canada is worse than California with mismanaging their forests and empty lands...

 

[Old Rocks]

Lightning not temperature sets forests on fire.

Crap. Dumb ass, the temperatures have been much warmer in those forests for a few years now. The vegetation is much drier, the area is windier than it used to be. Yes, the lightning sets the fire, and the temperature and wind create the conditions for those fires to become megafires.

 

[Rambunctious]

Dr. Hansen stated quite clearly that he expected the imprint of our addition of GHG's to the atmosphere to emerge from the noise of normal climate fluctuations by the end of the century, probably in the 1980's. And that is exactly what happened.


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When you are in a drought you must prepare for fires... you can't just let dead vegetation build... so if you really believe the fires are due to hot temperatures then you should support forest management with forest fire reduction in mind....

 

[Rambunctious]

Damn. You have zero ability to read with understanding.

Variations of volcanic aerosols and possibly solar luminosity appear to be primary causes of observed fluctuations about the mean trend of increasing temperature. It is shown that the anthropogenic carbon dioxide warming should emerge from the noise level of natural climate variability by the end of the century, and there is a high probability of warming in the 1980s. Potential effects on climate in the 21st century include the creation of drought-prone regions in North America and central Asia as part of a shifting of climatic zones, erosion of the West Antarctic ice sheet with a consequent worldwide rise in sea level, and opening of the fabled Northwest Passage.

What's the temperature in Canada today... in British Columbia.... where its burning...
The high was 69 today with rain this evening.... it wasn't heat... its forest mismanagement and probably a weed whacker....

 

[Old Rocks]

I grew up in California... I can count a dozen time's my dad up on the roof with a hose as fire burned in the hills... but it stopped at bulldozed fire breaks... it didn't keep burning for days... because we managed the brush and debris... electric companies sent crews out to cut back dry and dead vegetation and clip branches from near power lines...
Today they would be sued for that by the state... and Canada is worse than California with mismanaging their forests and empty lands...

What a liar you are. You did not have the constant winds and cycle of wet and extreme dry and high temperatures you have today. And no, those hills were not managed back then, and the fire breaks are useless in a high wind. Fires are spotted as much as two miles ahead of the fire line in those kinds of winds. And just how do you propose to manage the huge amount of forest in Canada? Not only that, why did they not have fires like they are having at present in the past? While the forests there have a record of wildfires, the ones since 2000 have exceeded those in the past in both acreage burned, and length of time spent burning, in fact often laying over the winter in roots as zombie fires, and then erupting at the first dry spell.

 

[Robert W]

Lindzen testified before Congress as to the harmlessness of tobacco use. Curry has lost all credibility in the scientific community for her brazen misinterpretation of evidence. I don't listen to liars and fools.

Yes, you do. You did not prove Lindzen approved of smoking nor that Curry lost her credibility. Those were just two of hundreds more scientists like they are.

 

[Old Rocks]

What's the temperature in Canada today... in British Columbia.... where its burning...
The high was 69 today with rain this evening.... it wasn't heat... its forest mismanagement and probably a weed whacker....

So, BC is the whole of Canada? What happened to Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Ontario?

Canada on pace for record-shattering wildfire season

Blazes have released 180 million metric tons of carbon, breaking records in Manitoba and Saskatchewan and blanketing much of the U.S. in a smoky haze.

www.eenews.net

 

[Rambunctious]

What a liar you are. You did not have the constant winds and cycle of wet and extreme dry and high temperatures you have today. And no, those hills were not managed back then, and the fire breaks are useless in a high wind. Fires are spotted as much as two miles ahead of the fire line in those kinds of winds. And just how do you propose to manage the huge amount of forest in Canada? Not only that, why did they not have fires like they are having at present in the past? While the forests there have a record of wildfires, the ones since 2000 have exceeded those in the past in both acreage burned, and length of time spent burning, in fact often laying over the winter in roots as zombie fires, and then erupting at the first dry spell.

Dude the Santa Ana winds would blow me down when I was a kid... you don't know what you are talking about... the world didn't begin the day you were born....

Even if you are right which you are not... don't you think we should do something to mitigate the fires?... making SUV's illegal is not doing anything... manage the brush...

 

[Old Rocks]

Yes, you do. You did not prove Lindzen approved of smoking nor that Curry lost her credibility. Those were just two of hundreds more scientists like they are.

What bullshit. Every Scientific Society, every National Academy of Science, and every major University has policy statements that AGW is real and a clear and present danger. LOL Lindzen testified in front of Congress for the tobacco companies. Of course I did not prove Curry has lost her credibility. Other scientists proved that.

 

[Robert W]

Damn. You have zero ability to read with understanding.

Variations of volcanic aerosols and possibly solar luminosity appear to be primary causes of observed fluctuations about the mean trend of increasing temperature. It is shown that the anthropogenic carbon dioxide warming should emerge from the noise level of natural climate variability by the end of the century, and there is a high probability of warming in the 1980s. Potential effects on climate in the 21st century include the creation of drought-prone regions in North America and central Asia as part of a shifting of climatic zones, erosion of the West Antarctic ice sheet with a consequent worldwide rise in sea level, and opening of the fabled Northwest Passage.

Funny you make that claim.

Variations of volcanic aerosols and possibly solar luminosity appear to be primary causes of observed fluctuations about the mean trend of increasing temperature.

If you want to know why democrats have no credibility, read your own words over a few times.

 

[Robert W]

What bullshit. Every Scientific Society, every National Academy of Science, and every major University has policy statements that AGW is real and a clear and present danger. LOL Lindzen testified in front of Congress for the tobacco companies. Of course I did not prove Curry has lost her credibility. Other scientists proved that.

Look, you will get very lonely believing your bullshit.

 

[Robert W]

Crap. Dumb ass, the temperatures have been much warmer in those forests for a few years now. The vegetation is much drier, the area is windier than it used to be. Yes, the lightning sets the fire, and the temperature and wind create the conditions for those fires to become megafires.

You admit I am correct then use vulgar terms.

Best when you make claims you also give lots of proof.