The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

JFK: Eyewitness statements, assassination of President John F. Kennedy, murder of J. D. Tippit and arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald: Hugh William Betzner

James Altgens was a press photographer and shared some mighty fine testimony that supports Greer's shot from the driver's seat. The pistol mention doesn't come from left field.

7. James Altgens: (photographer, south curb of Elm):“The last shot sounded like it came from the left side of the car, if it was close range because, if it were a pistol it would have to be fired at close range for any degree of accuracy," 7WCH518.

8. Hugh Betzner, Jr. (south curb of Elm, nr junction with Houston): “I cannot remember exactly where I was when I saw the following: I heard at least two shots fired and I saw what looked like a firecracker going off in the president's car. My assumption for this was because I saw fragments going up in the air,” I also remember seeing what looked like a nickel revolver in someone's hand in the President's car or somewhere immediately around his car 19WCH467


 
Jack Rudy tried to shoot Rambo too, but it didn't turn out so well for him.

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He blowed up real good.
 
No one else has so far. The thread is still right on track.:clap2:

I have tried to have an intelligent conversation about our President's assassination. I don't believe the driver shot him, but I know the Warren Report is fiction.
really how?

Where do you want to start? The murder scene, ballistics, Parkland Hospital, the autopsy, the forensic evidence, the physical evidence, common sense?
 
I can't believe you guys haven't figured this out. Elvis shot JFK. He was being controled by aliens from Pluto. When Elvis became unstable, because of drugs, they took him to Pluto, where today, he pumps gas at a filling station. However, he is plotting to return, because he is pissed about Michael Jackson marrying his daughter. Newspapers take a long time to get to Pluto, so he is not yet aware that Jackson is dead.
 
I can't believe you guys haven't figured this out. Elvis shot JFK. He was being controled by aliens from Pluto. When Elvis became unstable, because of drugs, they took him to Pluto, where today, he pumps gas at a filling station. However, he is plotting to return, because he is pissed about Michael Jackson marrying his daughter. Newspapers take a long time to get to Pluto, so he is not yet aware that Jackson is dead.

Put on the glass slippers and chat this 10 times:

The government would never lie to me.

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I can't believe you guys haven't figured this out. Elvis shot JFK. He was being controled by aliens from Pluto. When Elvis became unstable, because of drugs, they took him to Pluto, where today, he pumps gas at a filling station. However, he is plotting to return, because he is pissed about Michael Jackson marrying his daughter. Newspapers take a long time to get to Pluto, so he is not yet aware that Jackson is dead.

Actually, if the search tags on this page are true, the bigass girl on the grassy knoll shot kennedy.


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Don't you kids have to take a nap or something?
 
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Hey 7, stop searching porn when you're signed on here. You're ******* up the search tags again.

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I can't believe you guys haven't figured this out. Elvis shot JFK. He was being controled by aliens from Pluto. When Elvis became unstable, because of drugs, they took him to Pluto, where today, he pumps gas at a filling station. However, he is plotting to return, because he is pissed about Michael Jackson marrying his daughter. Newspapers take a long time to get to Pluto, so he is not yet aware that Jackson is dead.

Put on the glass slippers and chat this 10 times:

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.
governments lie, citizens lie, your point?
 
I can't believe you guys haven't figured this out. Elvis shot JFK. He was being controled by aliens from Pluto. When Elvis became unstable, because of drugs, they took him to Pluto, where today, he pumps gas at a filling station. However, he is plotting to return, because he is pissed about Michael Jackson marrying his daughter. Newspapers take a long time to get to Pluto, so he is not yet aware that Jackson is dead.

Put on the glass slippers and chat this 10 times:

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.
governments lie, citizens lie, your point?

My point; the government lied about the assassination of President Kennedy. And if you think about the 'official' story (Oswald was the assassin; that he did not have confederates who are still at large), there is no other possible story that could have been told to the American people, our allies, our enemies or the world. Any other story would have been a huge national security problem, a huge citizens' confidence in their government problem and a huge black eye for the FBI, the CIA, the Secret Service and the government. It would have shut down government. It would have castrated any agenda Johnson had as the new president.

The day after Oswald expired in Dallas, Nicholas Katzenbach, the Assistant Attorney General sent a memo to Bill Moyers, special assistant to President Lyndon B. Johnson (the same Bill Moyers who has a program on PBS) spelling out CLEARLY that "The public must be satisfied that Oswald was the assassin; that he did not have confederates who are still at large; and that the evidence was such that he would have been convicted at trial"

Now, please tell me HOW any other story (Oswald was the assassin; that he did not have confederates who are still at large) would or could be told to the world?

The Big Lie Begins

It's important to understand that from the very beginning, officials of our government did not want a true investigation and made every attempt to "make the public satisfied that Oswald was the assassin."

There may be no other document that makes it more clear that there was no interest in a true investigation by the highest federal authorities and it was issued just days after the assassination. A memo prepared by Walter Jenkins reflects his conversation with J. Edgar Hoover where Hoover makes this telling statement:

"The thing I am most concerned about, and Mr. Katzenbach, is having something issued so that they can convince the public that Oswald is the real assassin."

This conversation occured on November 24, 1963, one day prior to Katzenbach's memo below. Meanwhile, Hoover himself wrote a glaring similar memo on the same day that reads:

"The thing I am most concerned about, and SO IS Mr. Katzenbach, is having something issued so that WE can convince the pubic that Oswald is the real assassin." (HSCA, vol 3, pp 471-473. This memo was apparently prepared by Hoover at 4 pm.)

A third memo written by the FBI's Courtney Evans on November 26th mentions that Hoover himself drafted the Katzenbach memo. (North, "Act of Treason")

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Memo from Nicholas deB. Katzenbach, Deputy Attorney General

November 25, 1963

MEMORANDUM FOR MR. MOYERS

It is important that all of the facts surrounding President Kennedy's Assassination be made public in a way which will satisfy people in the United States and abroad that all the facts have been told and that a statement to this effect be made now.

1. The public must be satisfied that Oswald was the assassin; that he did not have confederates who are still at large; and that the evidence was such that he would have been convicted at trial.

2. Speculation about Oswald's motivation ought to be cut off, and we should have some basis for rebutting thought that this was a Communist conspiracy or (as the Iron Curtain press is saying) a right-wing conspiracy to blame it on the Communists. Unfortunately the facts on Oswald seem about too pat-- too obvious (Marxist, Cuba, Russian wife, etc.). The Dallas police have put out statements on the Communist conspiracy theory, and it was they who were in charge when he was shot and thus silenced.

3. The matter has been handled thus far with neither dignity nor conviction. Facts have been mixed with rumour and speculation. We can scarcely let the world see us totally in the image of the Dallas police when our President is murdered.

I think this objective may be satisfied by making public as soon as possible a complete and thorough FBI report on Oswald and the assassination. This may run into the difficulty of pointing to in- consistencies between this report and statements by Dallas police officials. But the reputation of the Bureau is such that it may do the whole job. The only other step would be the appointment of a Presidential Commission of unimpeachable personnel to review and examine the evidence and announce its conclusions. This has both advantages and disadvantages. It think it can await publication of the FBI report and public reaction to it here and abroad.

I think, however, that a statement that all the facts will be made public property in an orderly and responsible way should be made now. We need something to head off public speculation or Congressional hearings of the wrong sort.

Nicholas deB. Katzenbach

Deputy Attorney General


JFK Lancer: Katzenbach Memo
 
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:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2: I see the Greer apologists are still hard at work ignoring post#1848 of yours as well as coming up with theories of Greer stepping on the car pedal as an instinct never mind the fact that he had connections to the CIA as as were revealed in the 90's when the ARRB got a hold of many documents.they also revealed what many researchers suspected for many years but could not prove till then that Oswald was a CIA agent.

The Greer apologists always ignore that Greer and Kellerman violated their duties as ss agents that day and you can forget it that it was just an act of carelessness.If that was the case,they would have all been fired for their incompetence that day but not one of them got reprimanded.Also Greer was trained as a veteran SS agent to step on the gas pedal and floor it at a moments notice for something like that,he should have done that soon as Kennedy got the shot in the throut so thats absurd to say he was just being incompetent that day.:cuckoo:

Kellerman also should have immediately have thrown himself over Jfk and withdrawn his gun.Thats what the agents did with Johnson according to Ralph Yarbrough who rode with him.To not even be fired for their incompetence that day and removing and destroying evidence like they did with the limo,goes wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy beyonf just mere incopetence.the proof is in the pudding in the fact they did not get fired.To say they were not traiterous scums who should have been jailed for life,especially Kellerman and Greer,is being extremely ignorant.
 
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Put on your glass slippers and chant this 10 times:

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.



The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.




:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2: I see the Greer apologists are still hard at work ignoring post#1848 of yours as well as coming up with theories of Greer stepping on the car pedal as an instinct never mind the fact that he had connections to the CIA as as were revealed in the 90's when the ARRB got a hold of many documents.they also revealed what many researchers suspected for many years but could not prove till then that Oswald was a CIA agent.

The Greer apologists always ignore that Greer and Kellerman violated their duties as ss agents that day and you can forget it that it was just an act of carelessness.If that was the case,they would have all been fired for their incompetence that day but not one of them got reprimanded.Also Greer was trained as a veteran SS agent to step on the gas pedal and floor it at a moments notice for something like that,he should have done that soon as Kennedy got the shot in the throut so thats absurd to say he was just being incompetent that day.:cuckoo:

Kellerman also should have immediately have thrown himself over Jfk and withdrawn his gun.Thats what the agents did with Johnson according to Ralph Yarbrough who rode with him.To not even be fired for their incompetence that day and removing and destroying evidence like they did with the limo,goes wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy beyonf just mere incopetence.the proof is in the pudding in the fact they did not get fired.To say they were not traiterous scums who should have been jailed for life,especially Kellerman and Greer,is being extremely ignorant.

Sorry, but you are beyond help...
 
Put on your glass slippers and chant this 10 times:

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.

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The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.

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:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2: I see the Greer apologists are still hard at work ignoring post#1848 of yours as well as coming up with theories of Greer stepping on the car pedal as an instinct never mind the fact that he had connections to the CIA as as were revealed in the 90's when the ARRB got a hold of many documents.they also revealed what many researchers suspected for many years but could not prove till then that Oswald was a CIA agent.

The Greer apologists always ignore that Greer and Kellerman violated their duties as ss agents that day and you can forget it that it was just an act of carelessness.If that was the case,they would have all been fired for their incompetence that day but not one of them got reprimanded.Also Greer was trained as a veteran SS agent to step on the gas pedal and floor it at a moments notice for something like that,he should have done that soon as Kennedy got the shot in the throut so thats absurd to say he was just being incompetent that day.:cuckoo:

Kellerman also should have immediately have thrown himself over Jfk and withdrawn his gun.Thats what the agents did with Johnson according to Ralph Yarbrough who rode with him.To not even be fired for their incompetence that day and removing and destroying evidence like they did with the limo,goes wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy beyonf just mere incopetence.the proof is in the pudding in the fact they did not get fired.To say they were not traiterous scums who should have been jailed for life,especially Kellerman and Greer,is being extremely ignorant.

Sorry, but you are beyond help...

I love how everytime you are cornered with these pesky facts of the complicity of the ss agents,your only come back is laughable one liners.:clap2:
 
:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2: I see the Greer apologists are still hard at work ignoring post#1848 of yours as well as coming up with theories of Greer stepping on the car pedal as an instinct never mind the fact that he had connections to the CIA as as were revealed in the 90's when the ARRB got a hold of many documents.they also revealed what many researchers suspected for many years but could not prove till then that Oswald was a CIA agent.

The Greer apologists always ignore that Greer and Kellerman violated their duties as ss agents that day and you can forget it that it was just an act of carelessness.If that was the case,they would have all been fired for their incompetence that day but not one of them got reprimanded.Also Greer was trained as a veteran SS agent to step on the gas pedal and floor it at a moments notice for something like that,he should have done that soon as Kennedy got the shot in the throut so thats absurd to say he was just being incompetent that day.:cuckoo:

Kellerman also should have immediately have thrown himself over Jfk and withdrawn his gun.Thats what the agents did with Johnson according to Ralph Yarbrough who rode with him.To not even be fired for their incompetence that day and removing and destroying evidence like they did with the limo,goes wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy beyonf just mere incopetence.the proof is in the pudding in the fact they did not get fired.To say they were not traiterous scums who should have been jailed for life,especially Kellerman and Greer,is being extremely ignorant.

Sorry, but you are beyond help...

I love how everytime you are cornered with these pesky facts of the complicity of the ss agents,your only come back is laughable one liners.:clap2:

Listen, you are always going off on tangents.

Greer and Kellerman may have violated their duties as ss agents that day. And Greer may have previously been in the CIA. But NONE of that is a crime. NONE of that proves any guilt and NONE of that is even a motive. It is CONSPIRACY shit. That is who and what you are, a conspiracy nut.
 
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