The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

Sorry, but you are beyond help...

I love how everytime you are cornered with these pesky facts of the complicity of the ss agents,your only come back is laughable one liners.:clap2:

Listen, you are always going off on tangents.

Greer and Kellerman may have violated their duties as ss agents that day. And Greer may have previously been in the CIA. But NONE of that is a crime. NONE of that proves any guilt and NONE of that is even a motive. It is CONSPIRACY shit. That is who and what you are, a conspiracy nut.

a conspiracy nut would be someone like you who ignores reality of the points I have mentioned DOZENS of times and seven has mentioned throughout this whole thread which you just ignore cause it doesnt go along with what you believe.:cuckoo: I mention that countless numbers of photography experts have agreed the zapruder film was altered and that they talk about it in the book THE GREAT ZAPRUDER FILM HOAX when you ask me i have to prove it was altered when i talk about Greers hand being superimposed on the wheel,I offer you proof with EXPERTS talking about that in the book,and somehow thats not good enough for you that it was altered.:cuckoo:

Im also waiting for an answer to why turn around and point and raise his arm at JFK if isnt shooting him and alter and superimpose Greers hand on the wheel if he did not do it but i get no answer out of you.Let me guess,he is turning around raising his arm to remove the bullet from his throut? or he did it with his arm instintively right?

that works in a comedy routine,but not in real life im afraid.Not for a trained agent.oh and now your not making any sense in the fact that he was connected to the CIA and the CIA pulled it off.there is a thing called MONEY you know? sounds like a good motive to me. I guarantee you all those agents got tons of money as a reward fro violating all protocals and destroying and removing evidence..
 
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I love how everytime you are cornered with these pesky facts of the complicity of the ss agents,your only come back is laughable one liners.:clap2:

Listen, you are always going off on tangents.

Greer and Kellerman may have violated their duties as ss agents that day. And Greer may have previously been in the CIA. But NONE of that is a crime. NONE of that proves any guilt and NONE of that is even a motive. It is CONSPIRACY shit. That is who and what you are, a conspiracy nut.

a conspiracy nut would be someone like you who ignores reality of the points I have mentioned DOZENS of times and seven has mentioned throughout this whole thread which you just ignore cause it doesnt go along with what you believe.:cuckoo: I mention that countless numbers of photography experts have agreed the zapruder film was altered and that they talk about it in the book THE GREAT ZAPRUDER FILM HOAX when you ask me i have to prove it was altered when i talk about Greers hand being superimposed on the wheel,I offer you proof with EXPERTS,and somehow thats not good enough for you that it was altered.:cuckoo:

Dozens? More like HUNDREDS. Maybe even thousands. You and 7 are like conspiracy beavers, you never sleep, you CONSTANTLY pump out the same shit over, and over, and over, and, over and OVER ad nauseam.

If you can put Greer on the grassy knoll, I'll listen, because that is where the fatal shot came from. It is why motorcycle officer Bobby Hargis riding on the left flank was splattered with pieces of JFK 's head flying out the back left of the car. Hargis stated he was hit with bone, blood, and brain matter, as a result of the shooting. He said the hit was so hard he briefly thought he had been hit with a bullet.
 
Oh and Im no photography expert but even though Im not,anyone with common sense and logic can see they are correct that it has been altered.as many people have pointed out on other message boards I have been to, you look at all the people on the opposite knoll on zapruders side where Jean Hill and Mary Mooreman were and all the people there are jumping up and down waving at Kennedy which was typical of the normal crowds he drew.You even see the girl in the white jacket running and waving at him.

You look at the all the people on the same side that zapruder is on,they are ALL standing completey still.No waving,nothing.totally inconsistant with the crowd on the opposite.So only the illogical would deny that these photograpy experts are correct,that the film has been altered.
 
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Listen, you are always going off on tangents.

Greer and Kellerman may have violated their duties as ss agents that day. And Greer may have previously been in the CIA. But NONE of that is a crime. NONE of that proves any guilt and NONE of that is even a motive. It is CONSPIRACY shit. That is who and what you are, a conspiracy nut.

a conspiracy nut would be someone like you who ignores reality of the points I have mentioned DOZENS of times and seven has mentioned throughout this whole thread which you just ignore cause it doesnt go along with what you believe.:cuckoo: I mention that countless numbers of photography experts have agreed the zapruder film was altered and that they talk about it in the book THE GREAT ZAPRUDER FILM HOAX when you ask me i have to prove it was altered when i talk about Greers hand being superimposed on the wheel,I offer you proof with EXPERTS,and somehow thats not good enough for you that it was altered.:cuckoo:

Dozens? More like HUNDREDS. Maybe even thousands. You and 7 are like conspiracy beavers, you never sleep, you CONSTANTLY pump out the same shit over, and over, and over, and, over and OVER ad nauseam.

If you can put Greer on the grassy knoll, I'll listen, because that is where the fatal shot came from. It is why motorcycle officer Bobby Hargis riding on the left flank was splattered with pieces of JFK 's head flying out the back left of the car. Hargis stated he was hit with bone, blood, and brain matter, as a result of the shooting. He said the hit was so hard he briefly thought he had been hit with a bullet.

For me its just been dozens,you forget unlike 7, I DONT CARE IF YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT.I just want the lies to stop being told in our corrupt schools in our history books and in the media to stop lying that oswald was the lone assassin and tell the truth that the CIA did it and for a REAL investigation to be done so until this year the 50th anniversary,I havent spoken much about it.but yeah your right,he has explained it to you maybe hundreds of times on here,its not HIS fault you wont look at the evidence.:cuckoo:

None of what you just said though proves that it came from the fence so i dont even know why you even bothered posting that.If anything,that just reinforces the fact Greer did it.Greers left arm is going backward,so naturally all that blood and brain matter are going to splatter on Hargis with that much force.:lol:
Now if he was shooting right handed,I would say yeah,no way could Greer have done it.but thats not the case.

oh and just in case you dont remember,I am not saying there wasnt a shooter at the fence.He was there firing to get everyones attention away from Greer.

Oh and by the way,I notice a pattern with you.the same one thats present in the lone nut theorists.everytime you are proven wrong,you ignore that post and then change the subject. example.First you mention that theory that the secret service loved Kennedy from what source? the laughable Kennedy detail series.

I prove it was a lie by talking abour Mark Lanes book where he talks about a black ss agent who to this day says the same thing Lane does,that he left the kennedy detail cause he was disgusted with the racist remarks made to him by many of the red neck agents in that detail calling him ****** all the time and how they talked about how they would never take a bullet for Kennedy because he was a ****** lover.No admittance from you that your wrong.you avoid that topic talking about soemthing else.

Then you mention I have to prove the zapruder film was altered and when I mention the proof and the book that explians it all with many photography experts talking about it in that book,you dodge that fact as well and change the subject again.

NOW i address WHY Greer had the motive and why him and all the agents hated Jfk,and you change the subject AGAIN.I address all your points but you do the same thing with me that all lone nut theorists do,only selectively read PARTS of posts and then change the subject.the same pattern of the lone nut theorists. strange.
 
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Put on your glass slippers and chant this 10 times:

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.



The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.

The government would never lie to you.




:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2: I see the Greer apologists are still hard at work ignoring post#1848 of yours as well as coming up with theories of Greer stepping on the car pedal as an instinct never mind the fact that he had connections to the CIA as as were revealed in the 90's when the ARRB got a hold of many documents.they also revealed what many researchers suspected for many years but could not prove till then that Oswald was a CIA agent.

The Greer apologists always ignore that Greer and Kellerman violated their duties as ss agents that day and you can forget it that it was just an act of carelessness.If that was the case,they would have all been fired for their incompetence that day but not one of them got reprimanded.Also Greer was trained as a veteran SS agent to step on the gas pedal and floor it at a moments notice for something like that,he should have done that soon as Kennedy got the shot in the throut so thats absurd to say he was just being incompetent that day.:cuckoo:

Kellerman also should have immediately have thrown himself over Jfk and withdrawn his gun.Thats what the agents did with Johnson according to Ralph Yarbrough who rode with him.To not even be fired for their incompetence that day and removing and destroying evidence like they did with the limo,goes wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy beyonf just mere incopetence.the proof is in the pudding in the fact they did not get fired.To say they were not traiterous scums who should have been jailed for life,especially Kellerman and Greer,is being extremely ignorant.

Sorry, but you are beyond help...
now you're catching on
btw from now on handjob will claim you're a paid disinfo agent.
welcome to the club.
 
I can't believe you guys haven't figured this out. Elvis shot JFK. He was being controled by aliens from Pluto. When Elvis became unstable, because of drugs, they took him to Pluto, where today, he pumps gas at a filling station. However, he is plotting to return, because he is pissed about Michael Jackson marrying his daughter. Newspapers take a long time to get to Pluto, so he is not yet aware that Jackson is dead.

Put on the glass slippers and chat this 10 times:

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.
governments lie, citizens lie, your point?

I just made one for fun and used chant instead of chat.:cuckoo:
 
Put on the glass slippers and chat this 10 times:

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.

The government would never lie to me.
governments lie, citizens lie, your point?

I just made one for fun and used chant instead of chat.:cuckoo:
if that's you idea of fun ...you must be a laugh riot at funerals...
 
You dupes refuse to believe that governments lie to you.

If you believed this, you dupes would realize that earth is ruled by giant lizards from outer space.
 
You dupes refuse to believe that governments lie to you.

If you believed this, you dupes would realize that earth is ruled by giant lizards from outer space.

Yes, governments do lie, and in this case I can even comprehend why. If the US government had told the people that the leader of the free world was gunned down in the middle of the street of a major city, at high noon, and that we don't know who did it, and the killer(s) are still at large, it would have caused outrage, fear, shame and even panic. President Johnson believed it would lead to WWIII "that can kill 40 million Americans in an hour."

There is much more that shreds the 'official story' that Oswald acted alone.

History Matters Archive - LBJ-Hoover 11-23-63

Less than 24 hours after the assassination of President Kennedy, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover reported to the new President Johnson on the state of the investigation. Noting that the evidence against [Oswald] is "not very very strong", Hoover reported on the tracing of the rifle to an alias of Oswald and other details implicating him in the shooting.

But when LBJ then asked "Have you established any more about the visit to the Soviet Embassy in Mexico in September," an event of no little interest to the inner circles of government, Hoover replied "No, that's one angle that's very confusing for this reason. We have up here the tape and the photograph of the man who was at the Soviet Embassy, using Oswald's name. The picture and the tape do not correspond to this man's voice, nor to his appearance. In other words, it appears that there is a second person who was at the Soviet Embassy down there." In other words, an imposter had implicated Oswald in a relationship with Soviet agents, less than two months before the assassination.


And in a phone conversation with Senator Richard Russell on 11/29/63, Johnson lays out why the Warren Commission must put this to bed and report that Oswald was the lone assassin. And LBJ bragged that he had Chief Justice Earl Warren in tears promising to serve and do whatever LBJ says.

History Matters Archive - LBJ-Russell 11-29-63, 2nd call

This fascinating conversation between President Johnson and his old mentor Senator Richard Russell is very revealing. Johnson begins by reading to Russell the announcement of the formation of the President's Commission to study the assassination, to which he has named Russell. Not realizing that it's a done deal, Russell complains that he "couldn't serve on it with Chief Justice Warren--I don't like that man" and pleads with Johnson to reconsider. LBJ tells him that "Dick, it's already been announced and you can serve with anybody for the good of America, and this is a question that has a good many more ramifications than on the surface and we've got to take this out of the arena where they're testifying that Khruschev and Castro did this and did that and kicking us into a war that can kill 40 million Americans in an hour."

Toward the end of the conversation, Johnson re-invokes the image of 40 million Americans killed in a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union, and then tells Russell how he got Warren to serve on the Commission. After Warren refused several times, Johnson called him to the Oval Office and told him "what Hoover told me about a little incident in Mexico City," whereupon Warren began crying and told Johnson "well I won't turn you down, I'll just do whatever you say."
 
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You dupes refuse to believe that governments lie to you.

If you believed this, you dupes would realize that earth is ruled by giant lizards from outer space.

Yes, governments do lie, and in this case I can even comprehend why. If the US government had told the people that the leader of the free world was gunned down in the middle of the street of a major city, at high noon, and that we don't know who did it, and the killer(s) are still at large, it would have caused outrage, fear, shame and even panic.

There is much more that shreds the 'official story' that Oswald acted alone.

History Matters Archive - LBJ-Hoover 11-23-63

Less than 24 hours after the assassination of President Kennedy, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover reported to the new President Johnson on the state of the investigation. Noting that the evidence against [Oswald] is "not very very strong", Hoover reported on the tracing of the rifle to an alias of Oswald and other details implicating him in the shooting.

But when LBJ then asked "Have you established any more about the visit to the Soviet Embassy in Mexico in September," an event of no little interest to the inner circles of government, Hoover replied "No, that's one angle that's very confusing for this reason. We have up here the tape and the photograph of the man who was at the Soviet Embassy, using Oswald's name. The picture and the tape do not correspond to this man's voice, nor to his appearance. In other words, it appears that there is a second person who was at the Soviet Embassy down there." In other words, an imposter had implicated Oswald in a relationship with Soviet agents, less than two months before the assassination.


And in a phone conversation with Senator Richard Russell on 11/29/63, Johnson lays out why the Warren Commission must put this to bed and report that Oswald was the lone assassin. And LBJ bragged that he had Chief Justice Earl Warren in tears promising to serve and do whatever LBJ says.

History Matters Archive - LBJ-Russell 11-29-63, 2nd call

This fascinating conversation between President Johnson and his old mentor Senator Richard Russell is very revealing. Johnson begins by reading to Russell the announcement of the formation of the President's Commission to study the assassination, to which he has named Russell. Not realizing that it's a done deal, Russell complains that he "couldn't serve on it with Chief Justice Warren--I don't like that man" and pleads with Johnson to reconsider. LBJ tells him that "Dick, it's already been announced and you can serve with anybody for the good of America, and this is a question that has a good many more ramifications than on the surface and we've got to take this out of the arena where they're testifying that Khruschev and Castro did this and did that and kicking us into a war that can kill 40 million Americans in an hour."

Toward the end of the conversation, Johnson re-invokes the image of 40 million Americans killed in a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union, and then tells Russell how he got Warren to serve on the Commission. After Warren refused several times, Johnson called him to the Oval Office and told him "what Hoover told me about a little incident in Mexico City," whereupon Warren began crying and told Johnson "well I won't turn you down, I'll just do whatever you say."
if I recall Johnson's campaign tag line was "vote Johnson your life may depend on it. the PSA had a little girl with a flower and a mushroom cloud.
scared the shit out of me at five years old.
 
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The then Governor of Texas, John Connally saw Greer shoot jfk and took it to his grave. He didn't say anything because it was a massive goverment cover-up. Just imagine the Governor of TX going against the government and media in the 60's, an impossibility, then and now.

Connally said he saw the fatal shot and quickly corrected himself but his reaction when looking at Greer proves he slipped up. Watch him hit the floor in horror once he realized that Greer shot the President.

Obviously, at least the major wound that I took in the shoulder through the chest couldn't have been anything but the second shot. Obviously, it couldn't have been the third, because when the third shot was fired I was in a reclining position, and heard it, saw it and the effects of it, rather--I didn't see it, I saw the effects of it--so it obviously could not have been the third, and couldn't have been the first, in my judgment.

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The then Governor of Texas, John Connally saw Greer shoot jfk and took it to his grave. He didn't say anything because it was a massive goverment cover-up. Just imagine the Governor of TX going against the government and media in the 60's, an impossibility, then and now.

Connally said he saw the fatal shot and quickly corrected himself but his reaction when looking at Greer proves he slipped up. Watch him hit the floor in horror once he realized that Greer shot the President.

Obviously, at least the major wound that I took in the shoulder through the chest couldn't have been anything but the second shot. Obviously, it couldn't have been the third, because when the third shot was fired I was in a reclining position, and heard it, saw it and the effects of it, rather--I didn't see it, I saw the effects of it--so it obviously could not have been the third, and couldn't have been the first, in my judgment.

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OK, between you and your search tags, you finally have me convinced.

Greer and the bigass girl both shot Kenendy, then escaped on the Love Boat.

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Well done!
 
PressTV - New studies: ?Conspiracy theorists? sane; government dupes crazy, hostile

Recent studies by psychologists and social scientists in the US and UK suggest that contrary to mainstream media stereotypes, those labeled “conspiracy theorists” appear to be saner than those who accept the official versions of contested events.

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The most recent study was published on July 8th by psychologists Michael J. Wood and Karen M. Douglas of the University of Kent (UK). Entitled “What about Building 7? A social psychological study of online discussion of 9/11 conspiracy theories,” the study compared “conspiracist” (pro-conspiracy theory) and “conventionalist” (anti-conspiracy) comments at news websites.

The authors were surprised to discover that it is now more conventional to leave so-called conspiracist comments than conventionalist ones: “Of the 2174 comments collected, 1459 were coded as conspiracist and 715 as conventionalist.” In other words, among people who comment on news articles, those who disbelieve government accounts of such events as 9/11 and the JFK assassination outnumber believers by more than two to one. That means it is the pro-conspiracy commenters who are expressing what is now the conventional wisdom, while the anti-conspiracy commenters are becoming a small, beleaguered minority.

Perhaps because their supposedly mainstream views no longer represent the majority, the anti-conspiracy commenters often displayed anger and hostility: “The research… showed that people who favoured the official account of 9/11 were generally more hostile when trying to persuade their rivals.”

Additionally, it turned out that the anti-conspiracy people were not only hostile, but fanatically attached to their own conspiracy theories as well. According to them, their own theory of 9/11 - a conspiracy theory holding that 19 Arabs, none of whom could fly planes with any proficiency, pulled off the crime of the century under the direction of a guy on dialysis in a cave in Afghanistan - was indisputably true. The so-called conspiracists, on the other hand, did not pretend to have a theory that completely explained the events of 9/11: “For people who think 9/11 was a government conspiracy, the focus is not on promoting a specific rival theory, but in trying to debunk the official account.”

In short, the new study by Wood and Douglas suggests that the negative stereotype of the conspiracy theorist - a hostile fanatic wedded to the truth of his own fringe theory - accurately describes the people who defend the official account of 9/11, not those who dispute it.

Additionally, the study found that so-called conspiracists discuss historical context (such as viewing the JFK assassination as a precedent for 9/11) more than anti-conspiracists. It also found that the so-called conspiracists to not like to be called “conspiracists” or “conspiracy theorists.”

Both of these findings are amplified in the new book Conspiracy Theory in America by political scientist Lance deHaven-Smith, published earlier this year by the University of Texas Press. Professor deHaven-Smith explains why people don’t like being called “conspiracy theorists”: The term was invented and put into wide circulation by the CIA to smear and defame people questioning the JFK assassination! “The CIA’s campaign to popularize the term ‘conspiracy theory’ and make conspiracy belief a target of ridicule and hostility must be credited, unfortunately, with being one of the most successful propaganda initiatives of all time.”

In other words, people who use the terms “conspiracy theory” and “conspiracy theorist” as an insult are doing so as the result of a well-documented, undisputed, historically-real conspiracy by the CIA to cover up the JFK assassination. That campaign, by the way, was completely illegal, and the CIA officers involved were criminals; the CIA is barred from all domestic activities, yet routinely breaks the law to conduct domestic operations ranging from propaganda to assassinations.

DeHaven-Smith also explains why those who doubt official explanations of high crimes are eager to discuss historical context. He points out that a very large number of conspiracy claims have turned out to be true, and that there appear to be strong relationships between many as-yet-unsolved “state crimes against democracy.” An obvious example is the link between the JFK and RFK assassinations, which both paved the way for presidencies that continued the Vietnam War. According to DeHaven-Smith, we should always discuss the “Kennedy assassinations” in the plural, because the two killings appear to have been aspects of the same larger crime.

Psychologist Laurie Manwell of the University of Guelph agrees that the CIA-designed “conspiracy theory” label impedes cognitive function. She points out, in an article published in American Behavioral Scientist (2010), that anti-conspiracy people are unable to think clearly about such apparent state crimes against democracy as 9/11 due to their inability to process information that conflicts with pre-existing belief.

In the same issue of ABS, University of Buffalo professor Steven Hoffman adds that anti-conspiracy people are typically prey to strong “confirmation bias” - that is, they seek out information that confirms their pre-existing beliefs, while using irrational mechanisms (such as the “conspiracy theory” label) to avoid conflicting information.

The extreme irrationality of those who attack “conspiracy theories” has been ably exposed by Communications professors Ginna Husting and Martin Orr of Boise State University. In a 2007 peer-reviewed article entitled “Dangerous Machinery: ‘Conspiracy Theorist’ as a Transpersonal Strategy of Exclusion,” they wrote:

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“If I call you a conspiracy theorist, it matters little whether you have actually claimed that a conspiracy exists or whether you have simply raised an issue that I would rather avoid… By labeling you, I strategically exclude you from the sphere where public speech, debate, and conflict occur.”
But now, thanks to the internet, people who doubt official stories are no longer excluded from public conversation; the CIA’s 44-year-old campaign to stifle debate using the “conspiracy theory” smear is nearly worn-out. In academic studies, as in comments on news articles, pro-conspiracy voices are now more numerous - and more rational - than anti-conspiracy ones.
 
Who's who on the Grassy Knoll.

Did you hear about the guy on the grassy knoll?
No, there was a guy?
Yes.
What was his name?
Who.
The guy on the grassy knoll.
Who.
The guy you were talking about.
Who!
Look. You told me there was a guy on the grassy knoll.
Yes.
What's his name?
No, What's the name of the guy on the bridge.
I don't know!
Oh, he was behind the motorcade.
 
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