The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

Does that look like the effects of a .38 revolver at close range, or any range???

Do you have any idea what you are talking about???

JFK was not shot in the head with a .38 revolver, numnutz!!!!

You have provided no...

-alternative wound path besides Greer's simple shot that entered the right forehead and exited the right rear because there isn't one.
-defined location of exit with witnesses supported by photo and/or video.
-evidence that a handgun could not cause a large exit hole fired at close range because there isn't any.
-evidence of anything but nothing.
 
JFK was a sheltered and megalomaniac Preppy, a loose cannon who almost started World War III, the prevention of which is the one thing the CIA and the KGB had in common. In order to get the Russians to back down and lose face, the CIA offered to get rid of Kennedy and take our missiles out of Turkey, which were just as much of a threat to the Soviet Union as their missiles in Cuba were to us. The Russians agreed to get rid of Khrushchev, who had misjudged the sanity of Kennedy. In order to confuse the public, the CIA brought in Right Wingers and mobsters (one of whom was Jack Ruby, who killed Oswald) to make things too complicated. The KGB supplied Oswald.

President Kennedy prevented World War III. You need to educate yourself on REAL events instead of the brainwashing you spew.

J.F.K. was less afraid of Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev's ordering a surprise attack than he was "that something would go wrong in a Dr. Strangelove kind of way"—with a politically unstable U.S. general snapping and launching World War III.

Kennedy was particularly alarmed by his trigger-happy Air Force chief, cigar-chomping General Curtis LeMay, who firmly believed the U.S. should unleash a pre-emptive nuclear broadside against Russia while America still enjoyed massive arms superiority. Throughout the 13-day Cuban missile crisis, Kennedy was under relentless pressure from LeMay and nearly his entire national-security circle to "fry" Cuba, in the Air Force chief's memorable language. But J.F.K., whose only key support in the increasingly tense Cabinet Room meetings came from his brother Bobby and Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, kept searching for a nonmilitary solution. When Kennedy, assiduously working the back channels to the Kremlin, finally succeeded in cutting a deal with Khrushchev, the world survived "the most dangerous moment in human history," in Schlesinger's words. But no one at the time knew just how dangerous. Years later, attending the 40th anniversary of the crisis at a conference in Havana, Schlesinger, Sorensen and McNamara were stunned to learn that if U.S. forces had attacked Cuba, Russian commanders on the island were authorized to respond with tactical and strategic nuclear missiles. The Joint Chiefs had assured Kennedy during the crisis that "no nuclear warheads were in Cuba at the time," Sorensen grimly noted. "They were wrong." If Kennedy had bowed to his military advisers' pressure, a vast swath of the urban U.S. within missile range of the Soviet installations in Cuba could have been reduced to radioactive rubble.

Read more: Warrior For Peace - The Lessons of J.F.K. - TIME

And we must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent or omniscient - that we are only six percent of the world's population - that we cannot impose our will upon the other ninety-four percent of mankind - that we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity - and that therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.”
President John F. Kennedy

Back in the 60s, I too was childishly hypnotized by the glitter of Camelot. JFK, being a spoiled heirhead, would not admit that the Russians had beaten him with Cuba. By giving them their point, he could have gotten the missiles out of Cuba by trading the point we had scored by getting Turkey to put our missiles there. Instead, in order to avoid nuclear war, we had to do that and match assassinating Kennedy with deposing Khrushchev.
 
JFK was a sheltered and megalomaniac Preppy, a loose cannon who almost started World War III, the prevention of which is the one thing the CIA and the KGB had in common. In order to get the Russians to back down and lose face, the CIA offered to get rid of Kennedy and take our missiles out of Turkey, which were just as much of a threat to the Soviet Union as their missiles in Cuba were to us. The Russians agreed to get rid of Khrushchev, who had misjudged the sanity of Kennedy. In order to confuse the public, the CIA brought in Right Wingers and mobsters (one of whom was Jack Ruby, who killed Oswald) to make things too complicated. The KGB supplied Oswald.

President Kennedy prevented World War III. You need to educate yourself on REAL events instead of the brainwashing you spew.

J.F.K. was less afraid of Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev's ordering a surprise attack than he was "that something would go wrong in a Dr. Strangelove kind of way"—with a politically unstable U.S. general snapping and launching World War III.

Kennedy was particularly alarmed by his trigger-happy Air Force chief, cigar-chomping General Curtis LeMay, who firmly believed the U.S. should unleash a pre-emptive nuclear broadside against Russia while America still enjoyed massive arms superiority. Throughout the 13-day Cuban missile crisis, Kennedy was under relentless pressure from LeMay and nearly his entire national-security circle to "fry" Cuba, in the Air Force chief's memorable language. But J.F.K., whose only key support in the increasingly tense Cabinet Room meetings came from his brother Bobby and Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, kept searching for a nonmilitary solution. When Kennedy, assiduously working the back channels to the Kremlin, finally succeeded in cutting a deal with Khrushchev, the world survived "the most dangerous moment in human history," in Schlesinger's words. But no one at the time knew just how dangerous. Years later, attending the 40th anniversary of the crisis at a conference in Havana, Schlesinger, Sorensen and McNamara were stunned to learn that if U.S. forces had attacked Cuba, Russian commanders on the island were authorized to respond with tactical and strategic nuclear missiles. The Joint Chiefs had assured Kennedy during the crisis that "no nuclear warheads were in Cuba at the time," Sorensen grimly noted. "They were wrong." If Kennedy had bowed to his military advisers' pressure, a vast swath of the urban U.S. within missile range of the Soviet installations in Cuba could have been reduced to radioactive rubble.

Read more: Warrior For Peace - The Lessons of J.F.K. - TIME

And we must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent or omniscient - that we are only six percent of the world's population - that we cannot impose our will upon the other ninety-four percent of mankind - that we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity - and that therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.”
President John F. Kennedy

Damn I cant believe that I am actually agreeing with troll daws here.This marks a historic moment.well said,good post.Boy he sure does need to educate himself on the REAL events that transpired. Yeah as I have said many times before in the past thank god we had the bay of pigs disaster because the CIA lied to kennedy from the very get go telling him they would not need air support and when it started unraveling,,he approached them telling him he knew they lied to him from the beginning and to tell the truth now saying-do you need air support? and of course they lied to him again telling him no so after that Kennedy said-forget it,I will not listen to the CIA anymore.

Thats when he made the statement that got around to the CIA saying he was going to splinter them into a thousand pieces and scatter them to the four winds and then started making plans to dismantle the CIA.I say thank god for the bay of pigs disaster because after that,JFK stopped listening to the military brass and their recommendations and started listening to the advise of his aides and Bobby instead during the cuban missle crisis.That was how we averted ww3 was he listened to his aides instead.

Also what a lot of people dont realise because we have never been taught this in our corrupt school system is that contrary to belief,kennedy never authorized for the missles to be in turkey,they were already there when he was inagurated.they were put in place under Eisenhowers administration.Just like the bay of pigs,Kennedy inherited the cuban missle crisis from Eisenhower. Thank god that Kennedy got elected in 1960 instead of Dick Nixon.

Nixon WOULD have gotten us into world war 3.He would have done exactly what the military brass wanted him to do and would have gone in there and bombed them.we know that to be true because in later years when Lbj was president,he even publicly said that if he had been president back then,he would have gone in and bombed them.Thats Dick Nixon for ya.
 
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New film just discovered proves Oswald did not shoot JFK!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNg19eTJKYE]JFK assassination parody film 2.wmv - YouTube[/ame]
 
The lack of protection for Oswald that allowed his murder is just too hard for a logical person to accept. But I disagree with the reasons provided to us for the assassination, which starts with the lie that JFK was not a trigger-happy rich kid looking for a thrill, like his fellow preppy Bush.

The whole key was the missiles in Turkey. The only way the Russians could remove that existential threat was by countering that move with their own missiles in Cuba. The illogic of the objection that Eisenhower put them there, not Kennedy, is evidence that those mesmerized by aristocratic glitter can't justify themselves except by chanting irrelevant facts.
 
The lack of protection for Oswald that allowed his murder is just too hard for a logical person to accept. But I disagree with the reasons provided to us for the assassination, which starts with the lie that JFK was not a trigger-happy rich kid looking for a thrill, like his fellow preppy Bush.

The whole key was the missiles in Turkey. The only way the Russians could remove that existential threat was by countering that move with their own missiles in Cuba. The illogic of the objection that Eisenhower put them there, not Kennedy, is evidence that those mesmerized by aristocratic glitter can't justify themselves except by chanting irrelevant facts.

again you dont know your true history,they were already there put in place under Eisenhower.your right about one thing though,the fact that the secret service violated all protocals and did not do their job to protect the president that day and destoryed and removed evidence is overwhelming proof they were involved.there in fact was this one black agent that transferred out of the white house after kennedy appointed him to his detail cause he got sick of hearing them say they would never take a bullet for him as they proved that day on nov 22nd 1963.
 
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The lack of protection for Oswald that allowed his murder is just too hard for a logical person to accept. But I disagree with the reasons provided to us for the assassination, which starts with the lie that JFK was not a trigger-happy rich kid looking for a thrill, like his fellow preppy Bush.

The whole key was the missiles in Turkey. The only way the Russians could remove that existential threat was by countering that move with their own missiles in Cuba. The illogic of the objection that Eisenhower put them there, not Kennedy, is evidence that those mesmerized by aristocratic glitter can't justify themselves except by chanting irrelevant facts.

again you dont know your true history,they were already there put in place under Eisenhower.your right about one thing though,the fact that the secret service violated all protocals and did not do their job to protect the president that day and destoryed and removed evidence is overwhelming proof they were involved.there in fact was this one black agent that transferred out of the white house after kennedy appointed him to his detail cause he got sick of hearing them say they would never take a bullet for him as they proved that day on nov 22nd 1963.
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The lack of protection for Oswald that allowed his murder is just too hard for a logical person to accept. But I disagree with the reasons provided to us for the assassination, which starts with the lie that JFK was not a trigger-happy rich kid looking for a thrill, like his fellow preppy Bush.

The whole key was the missiles in Turkey. The only way the Russians could remove that existential threat was by countering that move with their own missiles in Cuba. The illogic of the objection that Eisenhower put them there, not Kennedy, is evidence that those mesmerized by aristocratic glitter can't justify themselves except by chanting irrelevant facts.

Jack Kennedy was the LEAST trigger happy President we ever had. At every turn he refused to use military force...Bay of Pigs, Berlin, the Cuban Missile Crisis. He had planned to withdraw from Vietnam once he secured re-election. He confided to trusted advisers like McNamara and White House aide O'Donnell, he intended to withdraw completely from Vietnam after he was safely re-elected in 1964. "So we had better make damned sure that I am re-elected," he told O'Donnell.

Fearing a backlash from his generals and the right—under the feisty leadership of Barry Goldwater, his likely opponent in the upcoming presidential race—Kennedy never made his Vietnam plans public.

Read more: Warrior For Peace - The Lessons of J.F.K. - TIME

"War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today."
President John F. Kennedy
 
The lack of protection for Oswald that allowed his murder is just too hard for a logical person to accept. But I disagree with the reasons provided to us for the assassination, which starts with the lie that JFK was not a trigger-happy rich kid looking for a thrill, like his fellow preppy Bush.

The whole key was the missiles in Turkey. The only way the Russians could remove that existential threat was by countering that move with their own missiles in Cuba. The illogic of the objection that Eisenhower put them there, not Kennedy, is evidence that those mesmerized by aristocratic glitter can't justify themselves except by chanting irrelevant facts.

Jack Kennedy was the LEAST trigger happy President we ever had. At every turn he refused to use military force...Bay of Pigs, Berlin, the Cuban Missile Crisis. He had planned to withdraw from Vietnam once he secured re-election. He confided to trusted advisers like McNamara and White House aide O'Donnell, he intended to withdraw completely from Vietnam after he was safely re-elected in 1964. "So we had better make damned sure that I am re-elected," he told O'Donnell.

Fearing a backlash from his generals and the right—under the feisty leadership of Barry Goldwater, his likely opponent in the upcoming presidential race—Kennedy never made his Vietnam plans public.

Read more: Warrior For Peace - The Lessons of J.F.K. - TIME

"War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today."
President John F. Kennedy

Looks like he doesnt read anything that proves him wrong.you spelled it out for him dummies style earlier and he still hasnt grasped it.:cuckoo: Looks like he doesnt want to learn. its well know fact now that Kennedy was going to completely withdraw from vietnam by 1965.Here is the proof in the pudding he cant get around that LBJ esculated the war that Kennedy did not want.

The Vietnam War and the Assassination of JFK - The Education Forum

Oh yeah its a well known fact kennedy was going to pull out of vietnam.

contrary to what our corrupt school system teachs in history,Eisenhower got us into vietnam and had plans for our servicemen to go to war.Kennedy got in there and he did not follow the plans Eisenhower laid out.

Its well known thanks to the ARRB "assassinations record review board" when they were authorized by President Clinton to gather documents from the kennedy administration that kennedy was for sure going to pull out of vietnam by 1965 and completely withdraw ALL military personel.It was all over the front pages of the militarys newpaper STARS AND STRIPES that he was going to do so, so it was no secret back then amongst people in the military.

after his assassination,2 days later Lyndon Johnson signed memo number 273 which reversed kennedys policy of memo # 263 Jfk signed to withdraw from vietnam and it followed the plans Eisenhower laid out to esculate the war.

Thats not debateable as that link I posted proves. whats most people dont know though thanks to our corrupt school system as well is that the missiles in turkey were already there when he was inaugurated ad that they were already put there in place by Eisenhower.On this one,Eisenhower gets a free pass unlike vietnam because unlike vietnam,Eisenhower actually had a good reason for installing the missiles there in turkey.

His reason was after world war two the russians and the united states of course signed an agreement that the russians would occupy east germany and we would occupy west germany.well the russians started to violate that agreement and were taking steps to take over west berlin as well.well Ike sent them the message by installing the missiles in turkey-Hey if you mess with us and violate our agreement and try to take over west germany,we have missiles aimed at you and we'll take you out.The russians of course got the message and withdrew their plans to try and take over west berlin.Not wanting to start a war with the united states,after we put our missiles in turkey,they then put theirs in cuba just for protection against us.Jfk realising this then opened up a back channel with Kruschev like you showed earlier to negotiate removing the missles in turkey as long as they removed their missiles from cuba

You took him to school on this earlier and have OWNED him since then.:D He just refuses to acknowledge he has been owned in this debate.
 
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9/11 Rimjob just sucked his own asshole.

Again.

No, he is accurate on this subject.

No. He's not.

He's a flaming idiot on this and every subject.

You would know, you are looking in a mirror.

Everything he said is true. President Kennedy confided to trusted advisers like McNamara and White House aide O'Donnell, he intended to withdraw completely from Vietnam after he was safely re-elected in 1964.

Kennedy never made it to the 1964 election, and since he left behind such a vaporous paper trail, the man who succeeded him, Lyndon Johnson, was able to portray his own deeper Vietnam intervention as a logical progression of J.F.K.'s policies. But McNamara knows the truth. The man who helped L.B.J. widen the war into a colossal tragedy knows Kennedy would have done no such thing. And McNamara acknowledges this, though it highlights his own blame. In the end, McNamara says today, Kennedy would have withdrawn, realizing "that it was South Vietnam's war and the people there had to win it... We couldn't win the war for them."

Read more: Warrior For Peace - The Lessons of J.F.K. - TIME
 

No, he is accurate on this subject.

No. He's not.

He's a flaming idiot on this and every subject.

You would know, you are looking in a mirror.

Everything he said is true. President Kennedy confided to trusted advisers like McNamara and White House aide O'Donnell, he intended to withdraw completely from Vietnam after he was safely re-elected in 1964.

Kennedy never made it to the 1964 election, and since he left behind such a vaporous paper trail, the man who succeeded him, Lyndon Johnson, was able to portray his own deeper Vietnam intervention as a logical progression of J.F.K.'s policies. But McNamara knows the truth. The man who helped L.B.J. widen the war into a colossal tragedy knows Kennedy would have done no such thing. And McNamara acknowledges this, though it highlights his own blame. In the end, McNamara says today, Kennedy would have withdrawn, realizing "that it was South Vietnam's war and the people there had to win it... We couldn't win the war for them."

Read more: Warrior For Peace - The Lessons of J.F.K. - TIME

Wrong again, stupid.

I was looking at your idiot friend, Rimjob.

You and he have a lot in common.

Nobody gives a shit about your history lesson, ass sucker.

I happen to believe that President Kennedy WAS pissed with the military industrial complex establishment and it is quite likely that he would have moved to alter course.

So what?

That has nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

President Kennedy was shot from above and behind and somewhat to his right. He was NOT shot from in front. Not from the grassy knoll. And absolutely not by the driver.

Oh, and by the way, the Twin Towers came down because the ******* terrorist scum hijacked some passenger jet-liners and crashed them into the towers.

No detonators. No wiring. No advanced thermite materials. No major conspiracy. Nothing at all to do with American government conspiracies.

9/11 Rimjob, like you, is a ******* skell piece of shit idiot.
 
No. He's not.

He's a flaming idiot on this and every subject.

You would know, you are looking in a mirror.

Everything he said is true. President Kennedy confided to trusted advisers like McNamara and White House aide O'Donnell, he intended to withdraw completely from Vietnam after he was safely re-elected in 1964.

Kennedy never made it to the 1964 election, and since he left behind such a vaporous paper trail, the man who succeeded him, Lyndon Johnson, was able to portray his own deeper Vietnam intervention as a logical progression of J.F.K.'s policies. But McNamara knows the truth. The man who helped L.B.J. widen the war into a colossal tragedy knows Kennedy would have done no such thing. And McNamara acknowledges this, though it highlights his own blame. In the end, McNamara says today, Kennedy would have withdrawn, realizing "that it was South Vietnam's war and the people there had to win it... We couldn't win the war for them."

Read more: Warrior For Peace - The Lessons of J.F.K. - TIME

Wrong again, stupid.

I was looking at your idiot friend, Rimjob.

You and he have a lot in common.

Nobody gives a shit about your history lesson, ass sucker.

I happen to believe that President Kennedy WAS pissed with the military industrial complex establishment and it is quite likely that he would have moved to alter course.

So what?

That has nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

President Kennedy was shot from above and behind and somewhat to his right. He was NOT shot from in front. Not from the grassy knoll. And absolutely not by the driver.

Oh, and by the way, the Twin Towers came down because the ******* terrorist scum hijacked some passenger jet-liners and crashed them into the towers.

No detonators. No wiring. No advanced thermite materials. No major conspiracy. Nothing at all to do with American government conspiracies.

9/11 Rimjob, like you, is a ******* skell piece of shit idiot.

I am not 9/11 inside job. He does not speak for me and I don't speak for him. But his post was accurate. YOU just verified that.

The rest is not relevant to his post on Vietnam.

I don't believe 9/11 was an inside job. I have never said that. But I also don't believe Oswald was the lone assassin. They are two different events. But you believe everything your beloved government tells you to believe. You really need to be able to discern.
 
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You would know, you are looking in a mirror.

Everything he said is true. President Kennedy confided to trusted advisers like McNamara and White House aide O'Donnell, he intended to withdraw completely from Vietnam after he was safely re-elected in 1964.

Kennedy never made it to the 1964 election, and since he left behind such a vaporous paper trail, the man who succeeded him, Lyndon Johnson, was able to portray his own deeper Vietnam intervention as a logical progression of J.F.K.'s policies. But McNamara knows the truth. The man who helped L.B.J. widen the war into a colossal tragedy knows Kennedy would have done no such thing. And McNamara acknowledges this, though it highlights his own blame. In the end, McNamara says today, Kennedy would have withdrawn, realizing "that it was South Vietnam's war and the people there had to win it... We couldn't win the war for them."

Read more: Warrior For Peace - The Lessons of J.F.K. - TIME

Wrong again, stupid.

I was looking at your idiot friend, Rimjob.

You and he have a lot in common.

Nobody gives a shit about your history lesson, ass sucker.

I happen to believe that President Kennedy WAS pissed with the military industrial complex establishment and it is quite likely that he would have moved to alter course.

So what?

That has nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

President Kennedy was shot from above and behind and somewhat to his right. He was NOT shot from in front. Not from the grassy knoll. And absolutely not by the driver.

Oh, and by the way, the Twin Towers came down because the ******* terrorist scum hijacked some passenger jet-liners and crashed them into the towers.

No detonators. No wiring. No advanced thermite materials. No major conspiracy. Nothing at all to do with American government conspiracies.

9/11 Rimjob, like you, is a ******* skell piece of shit idiot.

I am not 9/11 inside job. He does not speak for me and I don't speak for him. But his post was accurate. YOU just verified that.

The rest is not relevant to his post on Vietnam.

I don't believe 9/11 was an inside job. I have never said that. But I also don't believe Oswald was the lone assassin. They are two different events. But you believe everything your beloved government tells you to believe. You really need to be able to discern.

Liar ability has REALLY lost his credibility major big time now here because just like you said,he just proved it himself with his own post that kennedy was a danger to the establihment and thats why they had to get rid of him.:lol: I love it how liar ability still says oswald killed him and did it alone when even the HSCA in the 70's even said the warren commission was wrong and that there were two shooters involved,these trolls always conviently ignore that little fact.:lol:

its hysterical that he even brought up 9/11 since thats a topic YOU never talk about.:lol:

oh and not to talk about 9/11 or anything but since you believe the official version,you really should read the book DEBUNKING THE 9/11 DEBUNKING,AN ANSWER TO POPULAR MECHANICS AND OTHER DEFENDERS OF THE OFFICIAL CONSPIRACY THEORY.It shreads to pieces the official version and has overwhelming evidence in it that 9/11 was an inside job.

Nobody has even been able to debunk it. again I only bring this up since you mentioned you dont think 9/11 was an inside job to that troll. I myself try to stay away from that topic these days and avoid getting into a discussion about it.either people want to know the truth and will read that book or they dont and they wont read the book.I dont go any further than that on that discussion.if they cant see the truth from that book,we'll they did not read it like they claim they did.thats their choice to read it or not.I leave it at that.

oh and you are arguing with a child so i dont know what you hope to get out of it talking to him.
 
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No, he is accurate on this subject.

No. He's not.

He's a flaming idiot on this and every subject.

You would know, you are looking in a mirror.

Everything he said is true. President Kennedy confided to trusted advisers like McNamara and White House aide O'Donnell, he intended to withdraw completely from Vietnam after he was safely re-elected in 1964.

Kennedy never made it to the 1964 election, and since he left behind such a vaporous paper trail, the man who succeeded him, Lyndon Johnson, was able to portray his own deeper Vietnam intervention as a logical progression of J.F.K.'s policies. But McNamara knows the truth. The man who helped L.B.J. widen the war into a colossal tragedy knows Kennedy would have done no such thing. And McNamara acknowledges this, though it highlights his own blame. In the end, McNamara says today, Kennedy would have withdrawn, realizing "that it was South Vietnam's war and the people there had to win it... We couldn't win the war for them."

Read more: Warrior For Peace - The Lessons of J.F.K. - TIME

as usual,the troll proves he did not read anything you said since it proves his ramblings to be just that and is just here to troll.
 
9/11 Rimjob just sucked his own asshole.

Again.

No, he is accurate on this subject.

Liar ability as usual,proves he did not read that link and is afraid of the truth.:clap2:

congrats Liar ability.:clap2:

Hey,just a heads up. The angry stalker trolls have arrived. But you probably already have them on ignore so it may not matter much to ya. Just thought i would give you a heads up anyway. They're very angry and bitchy today. More than usual. :lol:
 
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