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Jesus says to forgive everyone that offends us, but his father (or him. Whatever, its all confusing) built hell for people that offend him.
Makes a lot of sense right?
Of course it doesn't. Many things in the Bible make no sense. That is why you pagans have to make things up to rationalize it.
 
Jesus says to forgive everyone that offends us, but his father (or him. Whatever, its all confusing) built hell for people that offend him.
Makes a lot of sense right?
Of course it doesn't. Many things in the Bible make no sense. That is why you pagans have to make things up to rationalize it.
Where does it say that hell was built for people that offended God?

You may try to at least try to quote scripture correctly before trying to dismantle it.
 
Scripture was written by men in an ancient time, much like the Bible.
 
Jesus says to forgive everyone that offends us, but his father (or him. Whatever, its all confusing) built hell for people that offend him.
Makes a lot of sense right?
Of course it doesn't. Many things in the Bible make no sense. That is why you pagans have to make things up to rationalize it.
So God is an exceptionalist, then. By the way, I did forgive 7 x 7 x 7 times and now is the time to punch offending grimaces.
 
Jesus says to forgive everyone that offends us, but his father (or him. Whatever, its all confusing) built hell for people that offend him.
Makes a lot of sense right?
Of course it doesn't. Many things in the Bible make no sense. That is why you pagans have to make things up to rationalize it.
Two thoughts: Starting with a false or meaningless premise will only result in false conclusions. (Logic)

It is always wise to consider that--in all likelihood--we start with a premise that is already wrong. Therefore, we must first solve the problem of it being the wrong question. (I forget who said something like this, but the thought itself is worth remembering.)
 
Jesus says to forgive everyone that offends us, but his father (or him. Whatever, its all confusing) built hell for people that offend him.
Makes a lot of sense right?
Of course it doesn't. Many things in the Bible make no sense. That is why you pagans have to make things up to rationalize it.
I have learned people need to earn forgiveness. Ask for it when they know they have done wrong where possible. One should not just arbitrarily forgive an unrepentant evil-doer who has done you wrong. I learned this the hard way. Some people and institutions are too evil to be forgiven and they will hurt you more for doing so. They have not earned forgiveness but rather scorn.

There are more fake Christians than one can count and it is a contributing factor to me finding my true faith. A true Christian is admirable and basically a sect of Judaism. Anyone falsely hiding behind religion while acting with evil intent will surely face consequences when their time arrives.

In my experience the most vicious suggest they are warm and forgiving, but they are not. They advise you to turn the other cheek at great personal peril and they will smack you on the other side and laugh. Some of the most evil have probably sunk the souls of not just themselves but many around them.

I have met too many heretics. Though in reality, they are truly just Atheists in disguise. This is not relegated to just Christianity. They say "forgive me", as they seek to harm you further. A sick way to live.

It is why I said after Oct. 7th that Bibi and IDF leadership needed to understand that before they send a young solder on a mission they better understand the consequences for that man if he is misguided. In war, you must defend yourself from those who would harm you, you must NOT intentionally kill the innocent. Accidents are entirely different. Intentional murder of the innocent, intentional persecution of the innocent, is unforgivable so do not mislead your men, ever.

To err is human, to forgive is divine, right? Those who do not forgive for honest mistakes or that person who has repented and deserves forgiveness will they themselves not be forgiven when their time arrives. The idea of forgiveness came long before Jesus. It is a critical aspect of Judaism and modern Western democracies.

Exodus 34:6-7: "The Lord, the Lord, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion, and sin."

Talmud, Yoma 86b: "He who forgives and pardons his fellow in this world will be forgiven by the Holy One, blessed be He, in the World to Come."
 
Where does it say that hell was built for people that offended God?

You may try to at least try to quote scripture correctly before trying to dismantle it.
So are you saying hell isnt a consequence for rejecting God? Because I can quote scripture if you need it. I have actually read the book.
 
Two thoughts: Starting with a false or meaningless premise will only result in false conclusions. (Logic)

It is always wise to consider that--in all likelihood--we start with a premise that is already wrong. Therefore, we must first solve the problem of it being the wrong question. (I forget who said something like this, but the thought itself is worth remembering.)
Perfect. Thanks for your contribution.
 
So are you saying hell isnt a consequence for rejecting God? Because I can quote scripture if you need it. I have actually read the book.
Its not in the Old Testament but Christians do believe in punishment for not accepting Jesus.
 
Two thoughts: Starting with a false or meaningless premise will only result in false conclusions. (Logic)

It is always wise to consider that--in all likelihood--we start with a premise that is already wrong. Therefore, we must first solve the problem of it being the wrong question. (I forget who said something like this, but the thought itself is worth remembering.)
False premise Jesus is a god of love. Hell proves that Jesus is god who threatens those who deny him. Thats a tyrant
 
False premise Jesus is a god of love. Hell proves that Jesus is god who threatens those who deny him. Thats a tyrant
Your god murdered them all. Even their babies and animals.
 
False premise Jesus is a god of love. Hell proves that Jesus is god who threatens those who deny him. Thats a tyrant
Have you denied Jesus? Tell us how he threatened you.
 
Jesus says to forgive everyone that offends us, but his father (or him. Whatever, its all confusing) built hell for people that offend him.
Makes a lot of sense right?
Of course it doesn't. Many things in the Bible make no sense. That is why you pagans have to make things up to rationalize it.
That's not what Catholics believe. So if you keep misstating our beliefs, how is that not gas lighting?

Gaslighters frequently use logical fallacies as part of a deliberate pattern of manipulation to make victims question their reality, memories, or sanity. Common fallacies include red herrings (diverting from the issue), ad hominem (attacking the person), and false dilemmas, designed to distort truth and maintain control.
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Key logical fallacies and manipulative tactics used in gaslighting include:
  • Red Herring (Distraction): Changing the subject or bringing up unrelated past issues to avoid accountability.
  • Ad Hominem & Personal Attacks: Telling the victim they are "crazy," "dramatic," or "too sensitive" to undermine their perspective.
  • False Dilemma (Black-and-White Thinking): Presenting situations as if only the gaslighter's viewpoint is correct, forcing the victim to choose between the manipulator's reality or none at all.
  • Denial of Reality (Lying): Flatly denying events happened, even with proof, often phrased as "That never happened" or "You're imagining things".
  • Blame-Shifting: Shifting responsibility for their own toxic behavior onto the victim (e.g., "You made me do it").
  • Trivializing: Downplaying the victim’s feelings or concerns, frequently using the phrase "It was just a joke" to invalidate objections.
These tactics are used continuously over time, causing victims to feel disoriented, paranoid, and powerless.
 
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Your god murdered them all. Even their babies and animals.
Another false premise. :clap:

You are in rare form today. Can you show me on this doll where a Christian has touched you?
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And do you usually use the OT to criticize Christianity? Can you not find anything in the NT to try to gaslight Christians with?
 
A Devout Chrisitain called me dirty Jew Christ killer and I had to give him a beat down
So you gave an ignorant Christian a beat down. That's a side bar. My questions remain unanswered:
  • Have you denied Jesus?
  • Tell us how he threatened you.
 
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