The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

[SigTurner]

none of what you've said changes anything. Greer fired an at close range shot with most likely a 38 revolver. There were witnesses who reported a gun in or around the limo. The old man's just a bonus for what the three films prove.

Does that look like the effects of a .38 revolver at close range, or any range???

Do you have any idea what you are talking about???

JFK was not shot in the head with a .38 revolver, numnutz!!!!



Bloody ******* hell!! You have got to be the stupidest person on the face of the earth!!

It's quite obvious that 7Foreskin knows NOTHING about firearms. BTW, he actually STEALS the information he posts which is hilarious considering that it is total bullshit.

The shmuck should try to be a little more discerning with his plagiarism.

Hey, look guys! See what I just stole out of that Johnny-on-the-Spot!
This is the big secret they've been keeping from us all these years!​

 

[SigTurner]

Hey moron,the brain matter SHOULD have landed on Connollys head and all over the back of his suit if shot from the back,

This is true. In fact, a 6.5 FMJ Carcano round would likely have come out the other side of JFK's head and hit Connelly. This is how we know that the head shot was not a 6.5 FMJ Carcano round. It was likely a more frangible round like a JHP (jacketed hollow point), given the degree to which it apparently disintegrated while passing through the brain and the way in which it apparently blew out a large portion of the occipital and parietal portions of the cranium upon impact.

This is exactly why there is such considerable discrepancy between the observations made by the doctors at Parkland Hospital and the autopsists at Bethesda in regards to a gaping wound at the back of JFK's head, and why it was necessary to lose the remains of JFK's brain: Since it is highly unlikely that Oswald would have been using two different types of ammo, then there must have been a second shooter. The remaining brain tissue would have proven that the head wound did indeed come from something other than the 6.5 FMJ Carcano rounds which Oswald was using.

 

[7forever]

The updated version of 'Murder from Within' is finally available for sale.

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[7forever]

Before killer Bill Greer shot jfk, he braked the limo to an almost complete stop. Notice the motorcycles and follow-up car come to complete stops.

http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/27th_Issue/59_1.html
1) Houston Chronicle Reporter Bo Byers (rode in White House Press Bus)---twice stated that the Presidential Limousine "almost came to a stop, a dead stop"; in fact, he has had nightmares about this. [C-SPAN, 11/20/93, "Journalists Remember The Kennedy Assassination"; see also the 1/94 "Fourth Decade": article by Sheldon Inkol];

2) ABC Reporter Bob Clark (rode in the National Press Pool Car)---Reported on the air that the limousine stopped on Elm Street during the shooting [WFAA/ ABC, 11/22/63];

3) UPI White House Reporter Merriman Smith (rode in the same car as Clark, above)---"The President's car, possibly as much as 150 or 200 yards ahead, seemed to falter briefly" [UPI story, 11/23/63, as reported in "Four Days", UPI, p. 32];

4) DPD motorcycle officer James W. Courson (one of two mid-motorcade motorcycles)--"The limousine came to a stop and Mrs. Kennedy was on the back. I noticed that as I came around the corner at Elm. Then the Secret Service agent [Clint Hill] helped push her back into the car, and the motorcade took off at a high rate of speed." ["No More Silence" by Larry Sneed (1998), p. 129];

5) DPD motorcycle officer Bobby Joe Dale (one of two rear mid-motorcade motorcycles)---"After the shots were fired, the whole motorcade came to a stop. I stood and looked through the plaza, noticed there was commotion, and saw people running around his [JFK's] car. It started to move, then it slowed again; that's when I saw Mrs. Kennedy coming back on the trunk and another guy [Clint Hill] pushing her back into the car." ["No More Silence" by Larry Sneed (1998), p. 134];

6) Clemon Earl Johnson---"You could see it [the limo] speed up and then stop, then speed up, and you could see it stop while they [sic; Clint Hill] threw Mrs. Kennedy back up in the car. Then they just left out of there like a bat of the eye and were just gone." ["No More Silence" by Larry Sneed (1998), p. 80];

As they say in America...BOO-YA

 

[7forever]

Greer pressed on the brakes in the Muchmore film. The brake light illuminates and creates another...BOO-YA.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrX8lsb2WTk]The Muchmore film suggests frames were removed from the Zapruder film - YouTube[/ame]

 

[7forever]

Advance to 2:15 and hear the real deal from Joe O'Donnell. He saw pictures of the entrance over the right eye and the well documented exit wound on right rear which was fired by Greer, the driver.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPXzX1DtJE]JFK Autopsy Photo Forgery - YouTube[/ame]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_O'Donnell_(photojournalist)

 

[7forever]

JFK Wound Witnesses - (ag6)
Note, this is not testimony by people who had a quick look, or were doing something else at the time and happened to see JFK. These are people who were focused specifically on the where the wound was. Their findings are backed by Zapruder which places the hole on the right rear. Not just opinions from washed-up drones.

) KEMP CLARK, MD: Professor and Director of Neurological Surgery at Parkland, in an undated note apparently written contemporaneously at Parkland described the President's skull wound as, "...in the occipital region of the skull... Through the head wound, blood and brain were extruding... There was a large wound in the right occipitoparietal region, from which profuse bleeding was occurring... There was considerable loss of scalp and bone tissue. Both cerebral and cerebellar tissue were extruding from the wound." (WC--CE#392)

In a hand written note dated 11-22-63, Dr. Clark wrote, "a large 3 x 3 cm remnant of cerebral tissue present....there was a smaller amount of cerebellar tissue present also....There was a large wound beginning in the right occiput extending into the parietal region....Much of the skull appeared gone at the brief examination...." (Exhibit #392: WC V17:9-10)

Read the rest of the article using the link provided
No credible evidence of a forward exit has ever surfaced. It is complete fiction.

 

[7forever]

PECULIAR POSNER...ALIEN CIA OP?

Russ Baker: Peculiar Posner
At first glance, I thought my eyes were deceiving me. Here's a complaint letter to the editor published in The New York Times, from a man representing the highly controversial brother of Afghanistan's president Karzai---and the letter-writer's name is Gerald Posner.

Gerald Posner? Isn't that the same name as the investigative journalist who resigned from the website Daily Beast after allegations surfaced of serial plagiarism? (The Miami New Times also provided examples that Posner "seems to add, subtract, or misattribute quotes" and displayed a series of such "apparently altered or misattributed quotes.") The letter to The Times puts this Gerald Posner's location as Miami Beach---where the Posner in question happens to live, so yes, it does seem to be the right person. Assuming Karzai didn't prefer to hire some unknown Gerald Posner from Miami. Which raises some more questions.

Why would Ahmed Wali Karzai hire Posner, of all people, to help clear his name? And why would Posner the journalist take what is essentially a publicity job representing this seemingly unpleasant and fraught fellow?

Actually, Posner has been in a propaganda role before. But first, the letter.



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[daws101]

PECULIAR POSNER...ALIEN CIA OP?

Russ Baker: Peculiar Posner
At first glance, I thought my eyes were deceiving me. Here's a complaint letter to the editor published in The New York Times, from a man representing the highly controversial brother of Afghanistan's president Karzai---and the letter-writer's name is Gerald Posner.

Gerald Posner? Isn't that the same name as the investigative journalist who resigned from the website Daily Beast after allegations surfaced of serial plagiarism? (The Miami New Times also provided examples that Posner "seems to add, subtract, or misattribute quotes" and displayed a series of such "apparently altered or misattributed quotes.") The letter to The Times puts this Gerald Posner's location as Miami Beach---where the Posner in question happens to live, so yes, it does seem to be the right person. Assuming Karzai didn't prefer to hire some unknown Gerald Posner from Miami. Which raises some more questions.

Why would Ahmed Wali Karzai hire Posner, of all people, to help clear his name? And why would Posner the journalist take what is essentially a publicity job representing this seemingly unpleasant and fraught fellow?

Actually, Posner has been in a propaganda role before. But first, the letter.



Follow Russ Baker on Twitter: Twitter

looks like you need some paper towels and a smoke, after all that masturbation.

 

[PrometheusBound]

JFK was a sheltered and megalomaniac Preppy, a loose cannon who almost started World War III, the prevention of which is the one thing the CIA and the KGB had in common. In order to get the Russians to back down and lose face, the CIA offered to get rid of Kennedy and take our missiles out of Turkey, which were just as much of a threat to the Soviet Union as their missiles in Cuba were to us. The Russians agreed to get rid of Khrushchev, who had misjudged the sanity of Kennedy. In order to confuse the public, the CIA brought in Right Wingers and mobsters (one of whom was Jack Ruby, who killed Oswald) to make things too complicated. The KGB supplied Oswald.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Before killer Bill Greer shot jfk, he braked the limo to an almost complete stop. Notice the motorcycles and follow-up car come to complete stops.

http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/27th_Issue/59_1.html
1) Houston Chronicle Reporter Bo Byers (rode in White House Press Bus)---twice stated that the Presidential Limousine "almost came to a stop, a dead stop"; in fact, he has had nightmares about this. [C-SPAN, 11/20/93, "Journalists Remember The Kennedy Assassination"; see also the 1/94 "Fourth Decade": article by Sheldon Inkol];

2) ABC Reporter Bob Clark (rode in the National Press Pool Car)---Reported on the air that the limousine stopped on Elm Street during the shooting [WFAA/ ABC, 11/22/63];

3) UPI White House Reporter Merriman Smith (rode in the same car as Clark, above)---"The President's car, possibly as much as 150 or 200 yards ahead, seemed to falter briefly" [UPI story, 11/23/63, as reported in "Four Days", UPI, p. 32];

4) DPD motorcycle officer James W. Courson (one of two mid-motorcade motorcycles)--"The limousine came to a stop and Mrs. Kennedy was on the back. I noticed that as I came around the corner at Elm. Then the Secret Service agent [Clint Hill] helped push her back into the car, and the motorcade took off at a high rate of speed." ["No More Silence" by Larry Sneed (1998), p. 129];

5) DPD motorcycle officer Bobby Joe Dale (one of two rear mid-motorcade motorcycles)---"After the shots were fired, the whole motorcade came to a stop. I stood and looked through the plaza, noticed there was commotion, and saw people running around his [JFK's] car. It started to move, then it slowed again; that's when I saw Mrs. Kennedy coming back on the trunk and another guy [Clint Hill] pushing her back into the car." ["No More Silence" by Larry Sneed (1998), p. 134];

6) Clemon Earl Johnson---"You could see it [the limo] speed up and then stop, then speed up, and you could see it stop while they [sic; Clint Hill] threw Mrs. Kennedy back up in the car. Then they just left out of there like a bat of the eye and were just gone." ["No More Silence" by Larry Sneed (1998), p. 80];

As they say in America...BOO-YA

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M]Laugh harder - YouTube[/ame]

 

[daws101]

JFK was a sheltered and megalomaniac Preppy, a loose cannon who almost started World War III, the prevention of which is the one thing the CIA and the KGB had in common. In order to get the Russians to back down and lose face, the CIA offered to get rid of Kennedy and take our missiles out of Turkey, which were just as much of a threat to the Soviet Union as their missiles in Cuba were to us. The Russians agreed to get rid of Khrushchev, who had misjudged the sanity of Kennedy. In order to confuse the public, the CIA brought in Right Wingers and mobsters (one of whom was Jack Ruby, who killed Oswald) to make things too complicated. The KGB supplied Oswald.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jTHNBKjMBU]Merrie Melodies & Looney Tunes - Opening themes. - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Rat in the Hat]

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Murder from Within Foreword by Tyler Newcomb

“That which is most simple and obvious is the hardest to fathom” E.A.
Poe

How It All Began

I remember it like it was yesterday. It was early summer in 1966 and I was
sitting at the breakfast table with my father, Fred T. Newcomb while he was
reading a front page article in the L.A. Times written by Robert J. Donovan.
It was a review of a new book written by Edward J. Epstein entitled Inquest.
Suddenly, Dad got up and started pacing the kitchen floor. “My God,
someone else may have shot Kennedy” were his words. That was how it all
began.

<snipped to not violate copyright>

Why won't you discuss this with Robert Prey??

 

[PrometheusBound]

JFK was a sheltered and megalomaniac Preppy, a loose cannon who almost started World War III, the prevention of which is the one thing the CIA and the KGB had in common. In order to get the Russians to back down and lose face, the CIA offered to get rid of Kennedy and take our missiles out of Turkey, which were just as much of a threat to the Soviet Union as their missiles in Cuba were to us. The Russians agreed to get rid of Khrushchev, who had misjudged the sanity of Kennedy. In order to confuse the public, the CIA brought in Right Wingers and mobsters (one of whom was Jack Ruby, who killed Oswald) to make things too complicated. The KGB supplied Oswald.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jTHNBKjMBU]Merrie Melodies & Looney Tunes - Opening themes. - YouTube[/ame]

We've all been brainwashed to support the aristocrats' right to rule us. JFK was incompetent and aggressive to the point of self-destruction. There is only one way to get rid of this guillotine-fodder, by educating the majority that if we have to do it on our own, so must the children of the rich. The result would be more competence and sanity in the corridors of power.

 

[Bfgrn]

JFK was a sheltered and megalomaniac Preppy, a loose cannon who almost started World War III, the prevention of which is the one thing the CIA and the KGB had in common. In order to get the Russians to back down and lose face, the CIA offered to get rid of Kennedy and take our missiles out of Turkey, which were just as much of a threat to the Soviet Union as their missiles in Cuba were to us. The Russians agreed to get rid of Khrushchev, who had misjudged the sanity of Kennedy. In order to confuse the public, the CIA brought in Right Wingers and mobsters (one of whom was Jack Ruby, who killed Oswald) to make things too complicated. The KGB supplied Oswald.

President Kennedy prevented World War III. You need to educate yourself on REAL events instead of the brainwashing you spew.

J.F.K. was less afraid of Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev's ordering a surprise attack than he was "that something would go wrong in a Dr. Strangelove kind of way"—with a politically unstable U.S. general snapping and launching World War III.

Kennedy was particularly alarmed by his trigger-happy Air Force chief, cigar-chomping General Curtis LeMay, who firmly believed the U.S. should unleash a pre-emptive nuclear broadside against Russia while America still enjoyed massive arms superiority. Throughout the 13-day Cuban missile crisis, Kennedy was under relentless pressure from LeMay and nearly his entire national-security circle to "fry" Cuba, in the Air Force chief's memorable language. But J.F.K., whose only key support in the increasingly tense Cabinet Room meetings came from his brother Bobby and Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, kept searching for a nonmilitary solution. When Kennedy, assiduously working the back channels to the Kremlin, finally succeeded in cutting a deal with Khrushchev, the world survived "the most dangerous moment in human history," in Schlesinger's words. But no one at the time knew just how dangerous. Years later, attending the 40th anniversary of the crisis at a conference in Havana, Schlesinger, Sorensen and McNamara were stunned to learn that if U.S. forces had attacked Cuba, Russian commanders on the island were authorized to respond with tactical and strategic nuclear missiles. The Joint Chiefs had assured Kennedy during the crisis that "no nuclear warheads were in Cuba at the time," Sorensen grimly noted. "They were wrong." If Kennedy had bowed to his military advisers' pressure, a vast swath of the urban U.S. within missile range of the Soviet installations in Cuba could have been reduced to radioactive rubble.

Read more: Warrior For Peace - The Lessons of J.F.K. - TIME

And we must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent or omniscient - that we are only six percent of the world's population - that we cannot impose our will upon the other ninety-four percent of mankind - that we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity - and that therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.”
President John F. Kennedy

 

[Obamerican]

JFK was a sheltered and megalomaniac Preppy, a loose cannon who almost started World War III, the prevention of which is the one thing the CIA and the KGB had in common. In order to get the Russians to back down and lose face, the CIA offered to get rid of Kennedy and take our missiles out of Turkey, which were just as much of a threat to the Soviet Union as their missiles in Cuba were to us. The Russians agreed to get rid of Khrushchev, who had misjudged the sanity of Kennedy. In order to confuse the public, the CIA brought in Right Wingers and mobsters (one of whom was Jack Ruby, who killed Oswald) to make things too complicated. The KGB supplied Oswald.

President Kennedy prevented World War III. You need to educate yourself on REAL events instead of the brainwashing you spew.

J.F.K. was less afraid of Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev's ordering a surprise attack than he was "that something would go wrong in a Dr. Strangelove kind of way"—with a politically unstable U.S. general snapping and launching World War III.

Kennedy was particularly alarmed by his trigger-happy Air Force chief, cigar-chomping General Curtis LeMay, who firmly believed the U.S. should unleash a pre-emptive nuclear broadside against Russia while America still enjoyed massive arms superiority. Throughout the 13-day Cuban missile crisis, Kennedy was under relentless pressure from LeMay and nearly his entire national-security circle to "fry" Cuba, in the Air Force chief's memorable language. But J.F.K., whose only key support in the increasingly tense Cabinet Room meetings came from his brother Bobby and Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, kept searching for a nonmilitary solution. When Kennedy, assiduously working the back channels to the Kremlin, finally succeeded in cutting a deal with Khrushchev, the world survived "the most dangerous moment in human history," in Schlesinger's words. But no one at the time knew just how dangerous. Years later, attending the 40th anniversary of the crisis at a conference in Havana, Schlesinger, Sorensen and McNamara were stunned to learn that if U.S. forces had attacked Cuba, Russian commanders on the island were authorized to respond with tactical and strategic nuclear missiles. The Joint Chiefs had assured Kennedy during the crisis that "no nuclear warheads were in Cuba at the time," Sorensen grimly noted. "They were wrong." If Kennedy had bowed to his military advisers' pressure, a vast swath of the urban U.S. within missile range of the Soviet installations in Cuba could have been reduced to radioactive rubble.

Read more: Warrior For Peace - The Lessons of J.F.K. - TIME

And we must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent or omniscient - that we are only six percent of the world's population - that we cannot impose our will upon the other ninety-four percent of mankind - that we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity - and that therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.”
President John F. Kennedy

And I have to agree with this 100%.

 

[SigTurner]

The updated version of 'Murder from Within' is finally available for sale.

I see you are still evading the issue over what sort of handgun Greer could possibly have used to cause that sort of head wound.

Look, numnutz, you are going to have to address this issue if your theory is ever to make sense. Repeating the same lame argument, over and over and over again, just does not work.

Of course, the worst of it is that you make repeated posts about the doctors at Parkland attesting to a head wound that could not possibly have come from a .38 revolver. You are so damn stupid that you do not even recognize when the evidence you are presenting actually undermines your own argument.

 

[7forever]

The updated version of 'Murder from Within' is finally available for sale.

I see you are still evading the issue over what sort of handgun Greer could possibly have used to cause that sort of head wound.

Look, numnutz, you are going to have to address this issue if your theory is ever to make sense. Repeating the same lame argument, over and over and over again, just does not work.

Of course, the worst of it is that you make repeated posts about the doctors at Parkland attesting to a head wound that could not possibly have come from a .38 revolver. You are so damn stupid that you do not even recognize when the evidence you are presenting actually undermines your own argument.

You will always evade the overwhelming evidence that Greer shot jfk because Zapruder was altered to hide his left arm crossing with headshot. There was a small entrance wound over the right eye with an exit on right rear.

Look, numnutz, you will never address these facts but point to moot points that have nothing to do with anything except avoiding reality.

Of course, the best of it is that I make repeated posts about the doctors at Parkland attesting to a head wound that did come from a .38 revolver. You are so damn stupid that you do recognize when evidence is presented but you ignore it and present no challenge.

 

[Obamerican]

The updated version of 'Murder from Within' is finally available for sale.

I see you are still evading the issue over what sort of handgun Greer could possibly have used to cause that sort of head wound.

Look, numnutz, you are going to have to address this issue if your theory is ever to make sense. Repeating the same lame argument, over and over and over again, just does not work.

Of course, the worst of it is that you make repeated posts about the doctors at Parkland attesting to a head wound that could not possibly have come from a .38 revolver. You are so damn stupid that you do not even recognize when the evidence you are presenting actually undermines your own argument.

You will always evade the overwhelming evidence that Greer shot jfk because Zapruder was altered to hide his left arm crossing with headshot. There was a small entrance wound over the right eye with an exit on right rear.

Look, numnutz, you will never address these facts but point to moot points that have nothing to do with anything except avoiding reality.

Of course, the best of it is that I make repeated posts about the doctors at Parkland attesting to a head wound that did come from a .38 revolver. You are so damn stupid that you do recognize when evidence is presented but you ignore it and present no challenge.

Moot points like why no one else in the limo saw or heard a gun? You ******* moron.

 

[Crackerjack]

I see you are still evading the issue over what sort of handgun Greer could possibly have used to cause that sort of head wound.

Look, numnutz, you are going to have to address this issue if your theory is ever to make sense. Repeating the same lame argument, over and over and over again, just does not work.

Of course, the worst of it is that you make repeated posts about the doctors at Parkland attesting to a head wound that could not possibly have come from a .38 revolver. You are so damn stupid that you do not even recognize when the evidence you are presenting actually undermines your own argument.

You will always evade the overwhelming evidence that Greer shot jfk because Zapruder was altered to hide his left arm crossing with headshot. There was a small entrance wound over the right eye with an exit on right rear.

Look, numnutz, you will never address these facts but point to moot points that have nothing to do with anything except avoiding reality.

Of course, the best of it is that I make repeated posts about the doctors at Parkland attesting to a head wound that did come from a .38 revolver. You are so damn stupid that you do recognize when evidence is presented but you ignore it and present no challenge.

Moot points like why no one else in the limo saw or heard a gun? You ******* moron.

It's all part of the conspiracy.