The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

I already have. That stench is entirely yours.

Again, you personally don't care for the WC Report.

So what?

What YOU care for remains entirely irrelevant.

It was Oswald's print on the Carcano.

That very weapon found IN the Book Depository was ballistically confirmed to have fired some of the shots that were recovered from the limo and from the Hospital where the mortally wounded President was taken.

Oswald's personal absence from the Book Depository (where he had been, in that perch just before or during the moments of the murder) AS THE SOLE employee missing from the location immediately AFTER the assassination is a given.

Oswald's own bizarre personal background is also a given.

Oswald was without ANY hint of a reasonable doubt involved. He may have even been the lone assassin.

If you won't post evidence I will. However I don't you will read it if in fact you can read it.

Physical Evidence of Conspiracy

If it's ok to you for your Government to lie to you than that's on you. As for me, I will not have my employees lie to me.

Well, here is some counter-evidence:
LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S SOLE GUILT -- POINT-BY-POINT
Lee Harvey Oswald -- Lone Assassin or Patsy?

In addition, I've got a question for those that believe shots were fired from multiple locations:
Why would conspirators that are planning on framing a guy on the sixth floor of a building, of firing at the president from behind, place the "real" shooters anywhere but BEHIND the president? Why would their plan be to fire at him from the front and/or side and then have to do all the work of changing medical records, photos, films, and even the actual wound themselves? It defies logic to conduct a conspiracy in that manner.

Over 600 post on this thread I think and if i start from page one and collcet the posted evidence showing a conspiracy to those that show none the evidence for conspiracy far outwieghs the other. Where is the logic of ANY man that would choose the evidence that is by far the minority?

There is a documentary called, "The Men That Killed Kennedy' and in it it shows a photo of the shooter on the grassy knoll. It can be found at the following link:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etgDxSUKLqc]‪THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY "The Coup d'Etat" COMPLETE EPISODE 1‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]
 
Sorry about the amount of post. A correction would be 73 post.
 
You'll have to open the, "The Men Who Killed Kennedy' video to watch it all. There are 9 parts.
 
Stashboi:

Your "video" offering consists of ZERO "evidence."

Here's a link that might help you -- someday.

It will require lots of effort on your part. And some serious attention to your deficit in logic.

Table of Contents <-- the Warren Commission Report may be accessed starting HERE!
 
Stashboi:

Your "video" offering consists of ZERO "evidence."

Here's a link that might help you -- someday.

It will require lots of effort on your part. And some serious attention to your deficit in logic.

Table of Contents <-- the Warren Commission Report may be accessed starting HERE!

You gotta be kidding me. Really? Everyone by now knows every word of the warren commission. Hell they probably have them read it in schools by now. That's why two thirds of Americans believe there has to be a conspiracy. With two thirds of Americans believing there was a conspiracy, that makes you the conspiracy theorist to believe otherwise.
 
Stashboi:

Your "video" offering consists of ZERO "evidence."

Here's a link that might help you -- someday.

It will require lots of effort on your part. And some serious attention to your deficit in logic.

Table of Contents <-- the Warren Commission Report may be accessed starting HERE!

You gotta be kidding me. Really? Everyone by now knows every word of the warren commission. Hell they probably have them read it in schools by now. That's why two thirds of Americans believe there has to be a conspiracy. With two thirds of Americans believing there was a conspiracy, that makes you the conspiracy theorist to believe otherwise.


LOL!

Such an erudite scholar!

:lol:
 
If you won't post evidence I will. However I don't you will read it if in fact you can read it.

Physical Evidence of Conspiracy

If it's ok to you for your Government to lie to you than that's on you. As for me, I will not have my employees lie to me.

Well, here is some counter-evidence:
LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S SOLE GUILT -- POINT-BY-POINT
Lee Harvey Oswald -- Lone Assassin or Patsy?

In addition, I've got a question for those that believe shots were fired from multiple locations:
Why would conspirators that are planning on framing a guy on the sixth floor of a building, of firing at the president from behind, place the "real" shooters anywhere but BEHIND the president? Why would their plan be to fire at him from the front and/or side and then have to do all the work of changing medical records, photos, films, and even the actual wound themselves? It defies logic to conduct a conspiracy in that manner.

Over 600 post on this thread I think and if i start from page one and collcet the posted evidence showing a conspiracy to those that show none the evidence for conspiracy far outwieghs the other. Where is the logic of ANY man that would choose the evidence that is by far the minority?

There is a documentary called, "The Men That Killed Kennedy' and in it it shows a photo of the shooter on the grassy knoll. It can be found at the following link:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etgDxSUKLqc]&#x202a;THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY "The Coup d'Etat" COMPLETE EPISODE 1&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube[/ame]

Your evidence is that more people, on a "conspiracy thread", think there is a conspiracy than people that don't? It's not the number of posts of evidence, it's the credibility of that evidence. You could have 600 pages of peoples "opinions"..................that doesn't constitute evidence.

You also didn't address the question of the logic of these conspiracy theories.

And let me be clear, I have never claimed that Oswald did it and did it alone. I believe that there could be a conspiracy in this case. I just believe that the evidence is overwhelming that Oswald was involved. And that shots were fired from the sixth floor window.

There, I have explained my position. Can you explain yours? And can you address the question of the logic of these conspiracy theories?
 
Well, here is some counter-evidence:
LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S SOLE GUILT -- POINT-BY-POINT
Lee Harvey Oswald -- Lone Assassin or Patsy?

In addition, I've got a question for those that believe shots were fired from multiple locations:
Why would conspirators that are planning on framing a guy on the sixth floor of a building, of firing at the president from behind, place the "real" shooters anywhere but BEHIND the president? Why would their plan be to fire at him from the front and/or side and then have to do all the work of changing medical records, photos, films, and even the actual wound themselves? It defies logic to conduct a conspiracy in that manner.

Over 600 post on this thread I think and if i start from page one and collcet the posted evidence showing a conspiracy to those that show none the evidence for conspiracy far outwieghs the other. Where is the logic of ANY man that would choose the evidence that is by far the minority?

There is a documentary called, "The Men That Killed Kennedy' and in it it shows a photo of the shooter on the grassy knoll. It can be found at the following link:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etgDxSUKLqc]&#x202a;THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY "The Coup d'Etat" COMPLETE EPISODE 1&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube[/ame]

Your evidence is that more people, on a "conspiracy thread", think there is a conspiracy than people that don't? It's not the number of posts of evidence, it's the credibility of that evidence. You could have 600 pages of peoples "opinions"..................that doesn't constitute evidence.

You also didn't address the question of the logic of these conspiracy theories.

And let me be clear, I have never claimed that Oswald did it and did it alone. I believe that there could be a conspiracy in this case. I just believe that the evidence is overwhelming that Oswald was involved. And that shots were fired from the sixth floor window.

There, I have explained my position. Can you explain yours? And can you address the question of the logic of these conspiracy theories?

Sure I can. My position is now and has always been that we have been lied to by our Government, and that we need a REAL investigation into this matter. As to your questions:

Multiple shots were fired for two reasons.
1. To insure the death of Kennedy
2. To confuse this issue by having different witness opinions of where the shots came from.

For most people it would not be possible to change records etc..if they were involved in a murder conspiracy, but that is not the case if the Government was involved. It would be more than possible.

Its not the number of post on this thread, but the amount of evidence presented on it for which I made my earlier statement. It's just not this thread but everywhere this issue comes up there seems to be more evidence contradicting the warren report, than that that supports it.
 
When the FBI agents interviewed Lee Harvey ******* Oswald, and they reported the substance of that interview, were they lying?

CE 832

I ask because it seems pretty apparent that what Lee ******* Oswald said is pretty incirminating.

So, if he didn't say it, then this interview was just a part of the coverup?

Or, if it's not a part of the coverup, then didn't Lee Harvey ******* Oswald say incriminating shit?

Maybe HE was part of the conspiracy to frame himself?

Devious bastard, eh?
 
When the FBI agents interviewed Lee Harvey ******* Oswald, and they reported the substance of that interview, were they lying?

CE 832

I ask because it seems pretty apparent that what Lee ******* Oswald said is pretty incirminating.

So, if he didn't say it, then this interview was just a part of the coverup?

Or, if it's not a part of the coverup, then didn't Lee Harvey ******* Oswald say incriminating shit?

Maybe HE was part of the conspiracy to frame himself?

Devious bastard, eh?

I see nothing on that were he incriminates himself other then the Mexico trip, Cuba, and that he carried a gun. I grew up in Dallas and I carry one, but I do not kill Kennedy. I think the fact that he did live in Russia, was pro Castro, made him the perfect person to set-up for this. However, He could have been part of it as well. But I have also seen evidence that he was with the CIA. That's not the important part. The important part is that we have been lied to by our Government, and who is going to hold them responsible for doing so if not the American citizens?
 
Stashboi:

Your "video" offering consists of ZERO "evidence."

Here's a link that might help you -- someday.

It will require lots of effort on your part. And some serious attention to your deficit in logic.

Table of Contents <-- the Warren Commission Report may be accessed starting HERE!

You gotta be kidding me. Really? Everyone by now knows every word of the warren commission. Hell they probably have them read it in schools by now. That's why two thirds of Americans believe there has to be a conspiracy. With two thirds of Americans believing there was a conspiracy, that makes you the conspiracy theorist to believe otherwise.

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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
Over 600 post on this thread I think and if i start from page one and collcet the posted evidence showing a conspiracy to those that show none the evidence for conspiracy far outwieghs the other. Where is the logic of ANY man that would choose the evidence that is by far the minority?

There is a documentary called, "The Men That Killed Kennedy' and in it it shows a photo of the shooter on the grassy knoll. It can be found at the following link:

&#x202a;THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY "The Coup d'Etat" COMPLETE EPISODE 1&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

Your evidence is that more people, on a "conspiracy thread", think there is a conspiracy than people that don't? It's not the number of posts of evidence, it's the credibility of that evidence. You could have 600 pages of peoples "opinions"..................that doesn't constitute evidence.

You also didn't address the question of the logic of these conspiracy theories.

And let me be clear, I have never claimed that Oswald did it and did it alone. I believe that there could be a conspiracy in this case. I just believe that the evidence is overwhelming that Oswald was involved. And that shots were fired from the sixth floor window.

There, I have explained my position. Can you explain yours? And can you address the question of the logic of these conspiracy theories?

Sure I can. My position is now and has always been that we have been lied to by our Government, and that we need a REAL investigation into this matter. As to your questions:

Multiple shots were fired for two reasons.
1. To insure the death of Kennedy
2. To confuse this issue by having different witness opinions of where the shots came from.

For most people it would not be possible to change records etc..if they were involved in a murder conspiracy, but that is not the case if the Government was involved. It would be more than possible.

Its not the number of post on this thread, but the amount of evidence presented on it for which I made my earlier statement. It's just not this thread but everywhere this issue comes up there seems to be more evidence contradicting the warren report, than that that supports it.

See what Im talking about? this guy has done NOTHING but read what the warren commission tells him.He wont watch those videos that I showed earlier or the one you showed or read that long post of mine that exonerates oswald or read ANY books you refer him to other than the warren commission since it doesnt go along with what he wants to see.

If he watched those videos he would see all that stuff he posted is propaganda that has nothing to back it up on.:cuckoo: He is a complete waste of time and is only interested in what the warren commission tells him.NOTHING ELSE.
 
Over 600 post on this thread I think and if i start from page one and collcet the posted evidence showing a conspiracy to those that show none the evidence for conspiracy far outwieghs the other. Where is the logic of ANY man that would choose the evidence that is by far the minority?

There is a documentary called, "The Men That Killed Kennedy' and in it it shows a photo of the shooter on the grassy knoll. It can be found at the following link:

&#x202a;THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY "The Coup d'Etat" COMPLETE EPISODE 1&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

Your evidence is that more people, on a "conspiracy thread", think there is a conspiracy than people that don't? It's not the number of posts of evidence, it's the credibility of that evidence. You could have 600 pages of peoples "opinions"..................that doesn't constitute evidence.

You also didn't address the question of the logic of these conspiracy theories.

And let me be clear, I have never claimed that Oswald did it and did it alone. I believe that there could be a conspiracy in this case. I just believe that the evidence is overwhelming that Oswald was involved. And that shots were fired from the sixth floor window.

There, I have explained my position. Can you explain yours? And can you address the question of the logic of these conspiracy theories?

Sure I can. My position is now and has always been that we have been lied to by our Government, and that we need a REAL investigation into this matter. As to your questions:

Multiple shots were fired for two reasons.
1. To insure the death of Kennedy
2. To confuse this issue by having different witness opinions of where the shots came from.

For most people it would not be possible to change records etc..if they were involved in a murder conspiracy, but that is not the case if the Government was involved. It would be more than possible.

Its not the number of post on this thread, but the amount of evidence presented on it for which I made my earlier statement. It's just not this thread but everywhere this issue comes up there seems to be more evidence contradicting the warren report, than that that supports it.

Even though I disagree with most of that, I do REALLY appreciate the fact that you responded to questions with actual answers. And actually ask questions yourself. There are a couple on here that if you disagree with, your just an idiot and not worth discussing things with. It's nice to speak with someone that, even though we disagree on most of this, we can still discuss it.

As for the subject at hand; like I said earlier, I DO believe a cover-up is possible. There is one piece of evidence that I understand points to LBJ. I don't know if you have ever heard of Malcolm Wallace? It's my understanding that a single finger print that was pulled off of a box in the snipers nest that could not be traced to anybody was found to belong to Malcolm Wallace. Here is the information that I read:

In 1998, A. Nathan Darby executed an affadavit in which he confirmed a match between a latent fingerprint found on one of the cardboard boxes that comprised the TSBD "sniper's nest" and the inked print of Malcolm Wallace. Subsequently, Darby's match has been criticized by some people who have the requisite qualifications to critique his work, and by many who don't. A few observations on the debate that has surrounded the fingerprint issue follow, based on a wading through the mire of opinions over the years (with the significant caveat that I am certainly not professionally qualified in this field!!)

1.) Darby originally identified 14 matching points between the inked and latent prints that were given to him. While there is some debate on the amount of matching points necessary to make a definitive judgement on a match (The FBI suggests 8, some other countries require as many as 16, U.S. courts normally will accept 10-12, etc.), a 14 point match, testified to in court by a Certified Latent Print Examiner with proper experience and credentials, will generally clinch a case.

2.) Subsequently, criticism of Darby's match by fingerprint experts focused on dissimilarities between the latent and inked prints. Darby addressed these points directly, noting that Wallace had sustained an injury ("a laceration" ) which, upon healing, created a non-corresponding area near the "delta" in the latent. Other criticism amounted to ignoring the pressure distortion created by hoisting heavy boxes. Little or no substantive criticism was made of Darby's matching points.

3.) Darby's match was a BLIND match. Another Texas-based fingerprint expert, E.H. Hoffmeister, when presented with the two prints that had been given to Darby, concluded that they were made by the same person. When he was told that the Kennedy assassination was involved, he backed off the identification. The experts who concluded that the match was in error all knew the consequences of a positive match. In a perfect world this would not be important. In this world, unfortunately, even forensic judgements made by experienced scientists can be colored by many factors. The only two BLIND (i.e. scientifically proper) submissions of the latent print from the book carton and the inked Wallace print resulted in a match.

4.) The prints, and Darby's analysis, were submitted to the FBI for evaluation. After 18 months had passed, the Bureau released a simple statement that the print match was in error. No analysis accompanied the statement, and no further comment has been made by the FBI on this issue. I think that this verdict, backed by nothing but the (arguably dubious) history of FBI criminal science, is essentially worthless.

5.) Following the hubbub over the print match, Darby went back to the prints and spent a great deal of time (far more time than would normally be spent in a typical investigation), and eventually arrived at a 34 point match.

6.) Criticism has been levelled because Darby used photocopies rather than originals for his print comparison. Darby's professional critics used photocopies as well, though, and the copies that they used were, in a couple of cases, inferior to the copies Darby worked with. In this case, the point is probably moot. It might be relevant if we were dealing with a very few match points, some of which were being called into question. That's not the case here.

7.) If this print match did not have the importance that it obviously does, I seriously doubt that it would be at all controversial. Darby's 55 years of experience in his field, and his sterling record in court testimony over the years would easily carry the day. 34 matching points? Barring some extraordinary revelation, I think that Walt Brown's description of this print match as "a slam dunk" is probably correct.

It has been suggested that Mac Wallace's presence on the sixth floor of the TSBD on 11/22/63 might well represent an attempt to blackmail Lyndon Johnson into silence and support. Estes claims he heard from Cliff Carter that Wallace was a shooter. These questions about the use of Wallace in the assassination can and should be discussed. In future years, I doubt that Wallace's presence that day in SOME role or other will be seriously challenged.

When a CLPE with over a half century of experience makes a blind match, confirms it in an affadavit, stakes his reputation on it, offers to testify to it in court, deals with the objections of doubters, and states that, if he had to make a dying declaration on the matter, it would be "It's him!", I tend to believe that it WAS in fact 'him."

I have also watched an interview with Darby where he states pretty much the same thing.
So, that is pretty damning evidence for the "Oswald did it alone" theory. But, I would say that doesn't show that Oswald was NOT involved, but rather that it shows there was an associate of LBJ's up there with him. In what capacity or for what reason..........I can't really figure out.


One more thing, have you heard the theory that the driver of the limo fired the fatal shot? What is your take on that?
 
Stashboi:

Your "video" offering consists of ZERO "evidence."

Here's a link that might help you -- someday.

It will require lots of effort on your part. And some serious attention to your deficit in logic.

Table of Contents <-- the Warren Commission Report may be accessed starting HERE!

You gotta be kidding me. Really? Everyone by now knows every word of the warren commission. Hell they probably have them read it in schools by now. That's why two thirds of Americans believe there has to be a conspiracy. With two thirds of Americans believing there was a conspiracy, that makes you the conspiracy theorist to believe otherwise.

Two thirds of Americans have been wrong before, on numerous occasions. Using that as a basis or pillar of an argument is sophistic at best.
 
It attributed the assasination to a French hit team.

Problem is - all the members of the team were either in jail or serving in the French military at the time.

Gerald Posner pointed this out in his Case Closed.

It was a CIA job.
 
Watch the back of the head gape and close up and compare to frames 313 and 337.
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15th post
Sorry bout that,



1. In the *CWN* study, after looking at the nix film, I have come to the absolute conclusion that, the image where the driver appears to be turning and aiming a shinning weapon towards JFK, then JFK's head exlpodes is false, it is in the image ofcourse, but what you are actually seeing is, the reflection of the guys hair and fourhead who is sitting in the front seat passenger side of the limo.
2. The movement of the so-called gun image, is the front seat passenger rocking back and forward when the driver accelerates and tapped the breaks.
3. CASE CLOSED.
4. Lee Harvey Oswald did it by himself, and ofcourse I met Lee's brother once.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
 
Your evidence is that more people, on a "conspiracy thread", think there is a conspiracy than people that don't? It's not the number of posts of evidence, it's the credibility of that evidence. You could have 600 pages of peoples "opinions"..................that doesn't constitute evidence.

You also didn't address the question of the logic of these conspiracy theories.

And let me be clear, I have never claimed that Oswald did it and did it alone. I believe that there could be a conspiracy in this case. I just believe that the evidence is overwhelming that Oswald was involved. And that shots were fired from the sixth floor window.

There, I have explained my position. Can you explain yours? And can you address the question of the logic of these conspiracy theories?

Sure I can. My position is now and has always been that we have been lied to by our Government, and that we need a REAL investigation into this matter. As to your questions:

Multiple shots were fired for two reasons.
1. To insure the death of Kennedy
2. To confuse this issue by having different witness opinions of where the shots came from.

For most people it would not be possible to change records etc..if they were involved in a murder conspiracy, but that is not the case if the Government was involved. It would be more than possible.

Its not the number of post on this thread, but the amount of evidence presented on it for which I made my earlier statement. It's just not this thread but everywhere this issue comes up there seems to be more evidence contradicting the warren report, than that that supports it.

Even though I disagree with most of that, I do REALLY appreciate the fact that you responded to questions with actual answers. And actually ask questions yourself. There are a couple on here that if you disagree with, your just an idiot and not worth discussing things with. It's nice to speak with someone that, even though we disagree on most of this, we can still discuss it.

As for the subject at hand; like I said earlier, I DO believe a cover-up is possible. There is one piece of evidence that I understand points to LBJ. I don't know if you have ever heard of Malcolm Wallace? It's my understanding that a single finger print that was pulled off of a box in the snipers nest that could not be traced to anybody was found to belong to Malcolm Wallace. Here is the information that I read:

In 1998, A. Nathan Darby executed an affadavit in which he confirmed a match between a latent fingerprint found on one of the cardboard boxes that comprised the TSBD "sniper's nest" and the inked print of Malcolm Wallace. Subsequently, Darby's match has been criticized by some people who have the requisite qualifications to critique his work, and by many who don't. A few observations on the debate that has surrounded the fingerprint issue follow, based on a wading through the mire of opinions over the years (with the significant caveat that I am certainly not professionally qualified in this field!!)

1.) Darby originally identified 14 matching points between the inked and latent prints that were given to him. While there is some debate on the amount of matching points necessary to make a definitive judgement on a match (The FBI suggests 8, some other countries require as many as 16, U.S. courts normally will accept 10-12, etc.), a 14 point match, testified to in court by a Certified Latent Print Examiner with proper experience and credentials, will generally clinch a case.

2.) Subsequently, criticism of Darby's match by fingerprint experts focused on dissimilarities between the latent and inked prints. Darby addressed these points directly, noting that Wallace had sustained an injury ("a laceration" ) which, upon healing, created a non-corresponding area near the "delta" in the latent. Other criticism amounted to ignoring the pressure distortion created by hoisting heavy boxes. Little or no substantive criticism was made of Darby's matching points.

3.) Darby's match was a BLIND match. Another Texas-based fingerprint expert, E.H. Hoffmeister, when presented with the two prints that had been given to Darby, concluded that they were made by the same person. When he was told that the Kennedy assassination was involved, he backed off the identification. The experts who concluded that the match was in error all knew the consequences of a positive match. In a perfect world this would not be important. In this world, unfortunately, even forensic judgements made by experienced scientists can be colored by many factors. The only two BLIND (i.e. scientifically proper) submissions of the latent print from the book carton and the inked Wallace print resulted in a match.

4.) The prints, and Darby's analysis, were submitted to the FBI for evaluation. After 18 months had passed, the Bureau released a simple statement that the print match was in error. No analysis accompanied the statement, and no further comment has been made by the FBI on this issue. I think that this verdict, backed by nothing but the (arguably dubious) history of FBI criminal science, is essentially worthless.

5.) Following the hubbub over the print match, Darby went back to the prints and spent a great deal of time (far more time than would normally be spent in a typical investigation), and eventually arrived at a 34 point match.

6.) Criticism has been levelled because Darby used photocopies rather than originals for his print comparison. Darby's professional critics used photocopies as well, though, and the copies that they used were, in a couple of cases, inferior to the copies Darby worked with. In this case, the point is probably moot. It might be relevant if we were dealing with a very few match points, some of which were being called into question. That's not the case here.

7.) If this print match did not have the importance that it obviously does, I seriously doubt that it would be at all controversial. Darby's 55 years of experience in his field, and his sterling record in court testimony over the years would easily carry the day. 34 matching points? Barring some extraordinary revelation, I think that Walt Brown's description of this print match as "a slam dunk" is probably correct.

It has been suggested that Mac Wallace's presence on the sixth floor of the TSBD on 11/22/63 might well represent an attempt to blackmail Lyndon Johnson into silence and support. Estes claims he heard from Cliff Carter that Wallace was a shooter. These questions about the use of Wallace in the assassination can and should be discussed. In future years, I doubt that Wallace's presence that day in SOME role or other will be seriously challenged.

When a CLPE with over a half century of experience makes a blind match, confirms it in an affadavit, stakes his reputation on it, offers to testify to it in court, deals with the objections of doubters, and states that, if he had to make a dying declaration on the matter, it would be "It's him!", I tend to believe that it WAS in fact 'him."

I have also watched an interview with Darby where he states pretty much the same thing.
So, that is pretty damning evidence for the "Oswald did it alone" theory. But, I would say that doesn't show that Oswald was NOT involved, but rather that it shows there was an associate of LBJ's up there with him. In what capacity or for what reason..........I can't really figure out.


One more thing, have you heard the theory that the driver of the limo fired the fatal shot? What is your take on that?

This was interesting reading. I did a search on Google for Malcolm Wallace and got his bio. So LBJ's brother in law was not only a convicted murderer, but a hit man as well. It is known that LBJ hated the Kennedy's, and the Kennedy's hated LBJ. I think most people would put LBJ in the mix somewhere. But I think it goes a bit deeper than that.

I am a believer in a shadow government. A power elite that control this country and others. This is a cabal of world government cronies and they are the same folks that own the Federal Reserve. I think this group has controlled all of our most highly placed officials since Roosevelt. Than Kennedy shows up and goes against their agenda. I think its more likely that LBJ was under their orders to kill Kennedy and cover it up than I do that he did so for a personal reason.



In his testimony to the Warren Commission he states that he made a trip to Cuba. This is interesting because Oswald was a part of the Pro-Castro movement. He also places himself in New Orleans which is where Oswald worked with the Pro-Castro movement. So I think that this and the fact eye witnesses state that they saw the two men together is enough to convince me that in fact they did.

In regard to the limousine driver I don't think there is enough video evidence to support it.
He would have had to be an incredible shot to throw his left arm over his right while driving, and shoot between the Texas Governor and his wife in order to hit the President. This is the reason that I don't think it was in the plan if he did do it. Many point to how the driver looks back at Kennedy. Well we must remember that he might of done so because Kennedy had already been shot once, and he might of been looking back to see if he was alright.

I also want to point out that there was another investigation into the assassination of Kennedy in 1976 or 79 that came to the conclusion that Oswald did not act alone, and that there had to be at least another shooter.

Look at this link about the power elite(The Insiders) and world government. Is this not what we are seeing right now.

http://video.search.yahoo.com/video...by+Robert+Welch+Founder+of+John+Birch+Society
 
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Stashboi:

Your "video" offering consists of ZERO "evidence."

Here's a link that might help you -- someday.

It will require lots of effort on your part. And some serious attention to your deficit in logic.

Table of Contents <-- the Warren Commission Report may be accessed starting HERE!

You gotta be kidding me. Really? Everyone by now knows every word of the warren commission. Hell they probably have them read it in schools by now. That's why two thirds of Americans believe there has to be a conspiracy. With two thirds of Americans believing there was a conspiracy, that makes you the conspiracy theorist to believe otherwise.

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A moron says something really very sadly stupid, and the drug-addled village ass picker claps and brays like the jackass he always is. Plodding and predictable. Sad, but inevitable.
 
Over 600 post on this thread I think and if i start from page one and collcet the posted evidence showing a conspiracy to those that show none the evidence for conspiracy far outwieghs the other. Where is the logic of ANY man that would choose the evidence that is by far the minority?

There is a documentary called, "The Men That Killed Kennedy' and in it it shows a photo of the shooter on the grassy knoll. It can be found at the following link:

&#x202a;THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY "The Coup d'Etat" COMPLETE EPISODE 1&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

Your evidence is that more people, on a "conspiracy thread", think there is a conspiracy than people that don't? It's not the number of posts of evidence, it's the credibility of that evidence. You could have 600 pages of peoples "opinions"..................that doesn't constitute evidence.

You also didn't address the question of the logic of these conspiracy theories.

And let me be clear, I have never claimed that Oswald did it and did it alone. I believe that there could be a conspiracy in this case. I just believe that the evidence is overwhelming that Oswald was involved. And that shots were fired from the sixth floor window.

There, I have explained my position. Can you explain yours? And can you address the question of the logic of these conspiracy theories?

Sure I can. My position is now and has always been that we have been lied to by our Government, and that we need a REAL investigation into this matter. As to your questions:

Multiple shots were fired for two reasons.
1. To insure the death of Kennedy
2. To confuse this issue by having different witness opinions of where the shots came from.

For most people it would not be possible to change records etc..if they were involved in a murder conspiracy, but that is not the case if the Government was involved. It would be more than possible.

Its not the number of post on this thread, but the amount of evidence presented on it for which I made my earlier statement. It's just not this thread but everywhere this issue comes up there seems to be more evidence contradicting the warren report, than that that supports it.

But why would you want to "confuse the issue" if they were wanting to frame the Oswald for shooting from the sixth floor? If you are going to frame someone for doing something, wouldn't it make more sense to have all the witness claims point to that person? If the government was involved and wanted EVERYTHING to point to Oswald, they wouldn't want claims of other shooters.
As for "to insure the death of Kennedy", on one hand, it does make sense to have multiple locations for more options for a hit. But, on the other hand, the cleanest and hardest to protect against, would be a shot from an elevated location.
All the other "theoretical" locations are on the ground in front or to the right. To the right is the knoll and the picket fence. And there is NO evidence that a shot passed through Kennedy from right to left.

I understand that someone in the government would have a better chance of changing records, films, photos, and intimidating witnesses, but it still doesn't make sense to do all that when they (the government) could just as well have planted a sharp shooter in a building to the rear, still achieve there objective, and eliminate all the interference with the evidence.
 
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