The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

[Liability]

I already told you butt rashes.

It was a ******* suicide.

 

[Mr.Nick]

I dunno. I think Oswald was all involved in the planning this thing but was out of the loop because he was the fall guy. I don't even think he was aware of what was going on until right after it happened.

Of course he was "involved" but he was never part of the conspiracy or the planning - he was the fall guy.

Someone else other than Oswald took the kill shot.

Oswald missed Kennedy twice, the real assassin fired the fatal shot and went home to his family.

 

[ginscpy]

NO ******* WAY WAS THE FATAL HEAD -SHOT FIRED FROM BEHIND THE MOTORCADE!!!!!!!!!

NO ******* WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just wath the Zap footage.

It came from the front. ******* NO -BRAINER.(excuse the language)

I bought into the BS by by Gerald Posner(Case Closed) and others that Kennedys head going backwards violenty was actualy proof that the bullet entered his head from behind.

Finally came to my senses.

Stone was right all along................................

 

[Rationalist1016]

I just re-watched "JFK" 1991 on AMC.

The re-enactment they show is pretty convincing.

It was a turkey-shoot in Dealy Plaza.

3 assn teams is in triangle. The Texas School Book Depository, some other place, and the picket fence.

Multiple witnesses swear on their parents graves that they saw puffs of smoke behind the picket fence. Were they wrong?

I watched that the other night, too. Looked pretty convincing to me. But...I don't think we will ever know the real truth.

the truth is pretty clear cut the CIA killed him and the rifle found on the 6th floor was not oswalds in the information below and in the next post as well.

so much for the lone nut theorists theory that oswald fired the rilfe.as I said before,a photograph taken 30 seconds before the assassination of the sixth floor window shows no rifle,and no man in it.Like he said,they fail.

Here's your problem...you have to prove he was on the 6th floor of the TSBD at 12:25 CST and that he fired the weapon. Paraffin test on Oswald's face and cheeks were negative...indicating he did not fire the rifle.

You continue to fail....


then there is this-

As anyone knows, prints on a murder weapon on not conclusive evidence. The weapon WAS oswalds, so yes, his prints were on it, that doesn't mean he fired it at the president.

He was a patsy from the beginning, do you think the one's behind Kennedy's assassination wouldn't make sure his prints were on the gun?

and then there is THIS as well-

Close to his neck doesn't work... there was a HOLE in JFK's back and a hole in JFK's neck, not in his back and a hole his chest.

You really need to understand the laws of physics...

As a matter of FACT...HERE is how the Warren Report got around this problem...they LIED.


Warren Commission Exhibits CE385 and CE386

It's not about a conspiracy, it is about the truth. If the evidence supported Oswald as the lone assassin, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But it doesn't.

yep thats what the lone nut theorists do when confronted with truth just like he said below.

gave you plenty of evidence that you wouldn't or couldn't address. You ignored it, ran and hid, and then you QUIT...I didn't try to belittle you...

BTW. I already KNOW what the Warren Commission said. But you are unable to explain ANY of the discrepancies. You won't even listen to what 2 subsequent government investigations concluded...

You really turned out to be an asshole...

so much for the THEORY that oswald fired the rifle.lol

We don't have any proof that Oswald fired the rifle. No one has been able to put him in that building with a gun in his hand."

—Dallas Police Chief Jesse Curry, quoted by United Press International, November 5, 1969

So, which is it!? Seriously need to get your story straight.

 

[Douger]

These guys ?
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3cUbdtsxh8&feature=related]‪waiting-in-the-pumpkinpatch.mp4‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

 

[ginscpy]

The whole thing was sloppily handled beyond belief.

Jackie was in bloodstained dress for24 hours !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Dallas police let a shady character like Jack Ruby access to Oswald - then lets him shoot him on live national TV (I missed that part -was going to church at the time)

FREAKING UNBELIEVABLE INCOMPETENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I don't think anything was bought. Can't be that many stupid people. I think they were and are just afraid so they take whatever is said that keeps them out of the proverbial limelight. Their families will stay safer that way.

No, people just believed what they were told was the "truth" without analyzing the idea.

The only time bullets ever change direction is when they hit bone and when they hit bone the bullet shatters the bone and compromises itself and loses velocity.

I've never heard of a bullet going through two people from that angle...

Thats impossible, or extremely improbable.

There had to have been a second shooter, who IMO was there to make sure the job was done...

Oswald was nothing more than the perfect fall guy and I bet he had no idea there was a second shooter.

I do believe Oswalds intent was to murder Kennedy but I believe he messed that up and a second shooter hand to make sure the mission was accomplished.

Why use a second shooter one may ask??

Because given Oswalds background his guilt would be unquestioned if he achieved what he was recruited to do or if the second shooter did.

Oswald was an easy fall guy...

oswald had an intent to murder kennedy? err apparently you are not aware of the party that was held at his friends house George Demorenshilds whom Marina has always said that Lee praised Kennedy at? which by the way,Demorenshield had connections to the CIA and was found murdered with a ruling of a suicide when it was known that he was going to testify before the HSCA investigation.and guess who's phone number they found in his wallet? CIA director George Bush and future president.Theres all kind of proof out there that Demorensheild and Bush wer pals.

Also you did not look at post # 1032 on previous page which exonerates oswald of having anything to do with the assassination.also you need to look at those videos I posted and just reposted through that link as wel that exonerates oswald and proves government compliticy.

you are right about one thing though,Oswald was an easy fall guy.

SO MUCH FOR THE PROPAGANDA OF THE WARREN COMMISSION THAT OSWALD FIRED A RIFLE AT KENNEDY..Read the paragraphs below.These two women Sandra Styles and Victoris Adams went down the stairs from the 4th floor after the shots were fired and according to the warren commissions timeframe,Oswald would had to pass them and they never saw him pass her.they also INSISTED the warren commission altered their testimonys,something they did with MANY witnesses which itself is a crime the commission members should have gone to jail for.

And it was through Lane’s book that Barry was introduced to the heroine of the second story he will tell. That second story is about the plight of one of these ordinary people who was swept up by events: Victoria Adams, the notable “girl on the stairs.” She was an employee who worked in the same building as one Lee Harvey Oswald. The problem caused by her presence is very simple and easily summarized. Adams, along with her friend Sandra Styles, stood on the fourth floor of the Texas School Book Depository at the moment of the murder. She testified to hearing three shots, which from her vantage point appeared to be coming from the right of the building (i.e., from the grassy knoll). She and Styles then ran to the stairs to head down. This was the only set of stairs that went all the way to the top of the building. Both she and her friend took them down to the ground floor. She did not see or hear Oswald. Yet, she should have if he were on the sixth floor traveling downwards. Which is what the Commission said he did after he shot Kennedy.

This is the first problem, in a nutshell. Why did Adams not see a scrambling Oswald, flying down the stairs in pursuit of his Coca-Cola? Because of the Warren Commission’s timeline, we know Oswald had to have gone down the stairs during this period in order to be accosted in time by a motorcycle policeman. In addition, as we are later to discover, Adams also reports seeing Jack Ruby on the corner of Houston and Elm, “questioning people as though he were a policeman.”

From here the parallel stories broaden out. For Barry began to read more books critical of the Commission. And he would then compare what was in these books with the testimony and evidence in the 26 volumes. Like many people before him, he found something rather disturbing: the evidence and testimony did not completely back up the summary conclusions in the Warren Report. The Commission had selectively chosen evidence to make their case. And they had deliberately tried to discredit witnesses and testimony that contradicted their guilty verdict about Oswald. And the witness that they did this to that really kindled Barry’s curiosity was Victoria Adams. As the author writes at the end of Chapter 1, “What if she was right?”

Adams did not find the government eager to hear her story. This is why they badgered her day and night: the FBI, Secret Service, Dallas Police, and the Sheriff’s Department. And Victoria noticed something discriminatory about all the attention she was getting: the other witnesses in her office did not receive it, e.g., Sandy Styles who ran down the stairs with her, or Elsie Dorman or Dorothy May Garner who watched the motorcade with her.

The attention didn’t stop. In fact, even when she moved to a different address these agents followed her. Even though she had left no forwarding address and her new apartment was not in her name. But they still found her. They followed her when she went to lunch. They followed her when she walked around town. When she sent a letter to a friend in San Francisco describing what she saw and did that day as a witness, the friend never got the letter. The question they posed was always the same: When did you run down the stairs after the shooting?

Then, another odd thing happened. When David Belin and the Warren Commission requested her to testify, it was her alone. Sandra Styles was not with her. In fact, Barry could find no evidence that the Commission questioned Styles at all. Further, during her appearance, Belin had handed her a diagram of the first floor of the Texas School Book Depository, the place where she and Oswald worked at that time. He asked her to point out where she saw two other employees (i.e., William Shelley and Billy Lovelady) when she arrived at the bottom of the stairway. When Barry went to look up this exhibit in the Commission volumes—Commission Exhibit 496—he discovered something odd. It was not the document in the testimony. It was a copy of the application form Oswald filled out for his job at the Depository.

Further, although Styles did not testify that day, or at all, both Lovelady and Shelley did. And as Barry read their testimony it appeared to him that the Commission was making use of them to discredit Adams. Commission lawyer Joe Ball made sure he asked Shelley when and if he saw Adams after the shooting. And when Barry read Lovelady’s testimony his mouth flew open. Lovelady brought up Adams’ name before Ball did! And he called her by her nickname, “Vickie.” Barry was puzzled as to what prompted this spontaneous reference to Adams. Did Lovelady know in advance that Ball was going to specifically ask about her?

Indeed, when she read her own testimony in the Warren Commission—and the Commission’s use of it—Adams was startled to find major discrepancies, including the time interval as to when she started down the stairs after she heard the shots. This began for her a lifelong burden of living in the shadows, avoiding any publicity dealing with her testimony or her treatment at the hands of the Commission. When her employer, publishing house Scott Foresman, offered her a chance to transfer out of Dallas to Chicago in 1966, she took it. (p. 35) While there, she actually now began to read the Warren Report. She now noted what they had done with Lovelady and Shelley. This stupefied her. Because she did not recall seeing either man after she and Styles arrived on the first floor. (p. 36)

discovering documents that bear out her veracity

also,those videos I referred to earlier as well as post # prove oswald was innocent but the government was involved.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The whole thing was sloppily handled beyond belief.

Jackie was in bloodstained dress for24 hours !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Dallas police let a shady character like Jack Ruby access to Oswald - then lets him shoot him on live national TV (I missed that part -was going to church at the time)

FREAKING UNBELIEVABLE INCOMPETENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats how we know that it was an inside job because if it was allegedly incompetence on their part,how come nobody in the dallas police department or the secret service lost their jobs or went to jail for committing a crime by destroying and removing evidence as that video I showed proves? the lone nut theorists always ignore these little facts since they know it proves it was an inside job abnd thats why they wont look at those videos since it proves all that and proves oswald was innocent.

I still cant believe you are FINALLY awake after all these years and now realise you were brainwshed and lied to for so many years.I NEVER thought you would be awake. well better several decades later to wake up than never.

yeah when the movie JFK first came,I started reading books about it all the time and always talked to everybody I knew about it and I talked with people that were around back then and they would say-Yeah I knew that our government did it and never believed that oswald had anything to do with it after Jack Ruby marched right into the dallas police department that day and shot oswald right on front of all those police officers and they led him out not protecting him with nobody in front of him.It was so obvious to me back then they were lying.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The Warren Commission reportwas made BEFORE the Zapgruder film was made public.

The fatal head-shot was fired from thefront of the motorcade. A no-brainer.

After the Zap film came out - there was lots of revision as to how the head -shot could have come from behind.

Well considering Kennedy's head went backwards and so did parts of his branmatter that would be a no brainer.

The Warren Commission expects us to refute the laws of physics.

If Oswald fired the lethal shot that killed Kennedy than Jackie would have had brains all over her face - either that or the bullet would have gone through Kennedys head and hit Jackie somewhere.

the warren commission ignores the laws of physics that scientists have gone by for thousands of years.they think it no longer applies anymore.

the coverup was started immediately after the assassination.Dan Rather the only news media person who was permitted to view the warren commission,stated that while viewing the film,when the head shot was fired,the presidents head was seen going forward. no government coverup? yeah right. thats why over the years people have made cartoons of Rather in a room watching the z film and showing him snoozing away.

That was Rathers reward for participating in the coverup and that was Arlen Specters reward,senator of Pennsylvania for drawing up the lone gunamn theory.That was also the reward for Gerald Ford,the presidency for particpating in the coverup while on the warren commission.

 

[ginscpy]

I was always skeptical and had an open mind re the JFK assn - tilted towars the Warren Commission version that Oswald acted alone - but videos don lie - the fatal head shot came from the front of the motorcade.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I was always skeptical and had an open mind re the JFK assn - tilted towars the Warren Commission version that Oswald acted alone - but videos don lie - the fatal head shot came from the front of the motorcade.

err have you already forgotten that thread you made a long time ago that said it was ludicrous and absurd for anybody to think otherwise that oswald Killed Kennedy? are you going to admit you made that thread or are you going to force me to dig that up and prove it? btw,did you read that post of mine post # 993 on page 67 that last long post of mine and watch those videos on that page as well that exonerates oswald and proves it was an inside job?

 

[Douger]

The whole thing was sloppily handled beyond belief.

Jackie was in bloodstained dress for24 hours !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Dallas police let a shady character like Jack Ruby access to Oswald - then lets him shoot him on live national TV (I missed that part -was going to church at the time)

FREAKING UNBELIEVABLE INCOMPETENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Church on Friday during lunch ? At age 10 I snickered while others bawled.
My hillbilly, bible toting neighbors and relatives cheered " they got that thar GawdDamn commie."
Once Nam got rolling I realized how ******* stupid those assholes were......and are to this very day.

 

[ginscpy]

I was always skeptical and had an open mind re the JFK assn - tilted towars the Warren Commission version that Oswald acted alone - but videos don lie - the fatal head shot came from the front of the motorcade.

err have you already forgotten that thread you made a long time ago that said it was ludicrous and absurd for anybody to think otherwise that oswald Killed Kennedy? are you going to admit you made that thread or are you going to force me to dig that up and prove it? btw,did you read that post of mine post # 993 on page 67 that last long post of mine and watch those videos on that page as well that exonerates oswald and proves it was an inside job?

I dont care what I posted a long time ago.

Re-watchinging "JFK" and considering other eveidence - I changed my mind.

 

[ginscpy]

The whole thing was sloppily handled beyond belief.

Jackie was in bloodstained dress for24 hours !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Dallas police let a shady character like Jack Ruby access to Oswald - then lets him shoot him on live national TV (I missed that part -was going to church at the time)

FREAKING UNBELIEVABLE INCOMPETENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Church on Friday during lunch ? At age 10 I snickered while others bawled.
My hillbilly, bible toting neighbors and relatives cheered " they got that thar GawdDamn commie."
Once Nam got rolling I realized how ******* stupid those assholes were......and are to this very day.

Oswald was murdered on a Sunday. Heard the news at chucrch. Recall it like yesteday how shockedI was - even more than the JFK assn itself.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

LBJ and maybe Nixon in on it...................................................

Yeah LBJ and DICK Nixon were involved up to their ears in his assassination.So was Bush sr as I just talked about previously.LBJ'S mistress Madeline Brown said that the night before the assassination she was with LBJ and his friends at Clint Murchison the Dallas Cowboys owner at that time,at his house having a party.

She said that Johnson was there,Nixon was there,Connolly was there and J Edgar Hoover as well.She said that Johnson came out of a room that all those people I mentioned were all in and LBJ whispered to her-after tomorrow,that bastard Kennedy will never embarrass me again.thats not a threat,thats a promise.The Book THE TEXAS CONNECTION proves Johnsons guilt in spades.

In that book it talks about how white house staff members witnessed a very heated argument between LBJ and JFK because LBJ wanted his friend Connolly to ride with him and JFK'S friend Ralph Yarbrough whom Johnson also hated,to ride with JFK but JFK won out and Connolly rode with him and Yarbrough rode with LBJ.

Thats why when you look at the films,Connolly looks really worried,he doesnt look happy like Kennedy and everybody else does because he knows his life is in danger.Thats why when HE got shot,he shouted out-Oh my god,their going to kill us all. when HE was shot,he was thinking,oh my god,they are not just going to kill kennedy,they are going to kill us all.

Also Yarbrough said that before the shots were fired,that LBJ was on a radio crouching down talking to people and that before the shots were fired,that LBJ ducked.

yeah LBJ,HOOVER,NIXON,CONNOLLY,they were all buddies with each other and all hated Kennedy.Matter of fact,Connolly shocked the nation in the 70's when after Johnson was no longer president anymore,he switched partys and went from being a democrat to a republican so he could serve on the staff of his OTHER buddy DICK NIXON.

The evidence that Nixon and Bush sr were involved up to their ears in the kennedy assassination as well is in this video,JFK II.The JFK/BUSH connection.

ITS ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF BUT BEST HOUR IN A HALF YOU CAN SPEND.

 

[daws101]

OPEN AND SHUT CASE JFK'S MURDER WAS A HOME GROWN PLOT AND RIFLE FOUND ON 6TH FLOOR WAS NOT OSWALDS.

‪Two Men In Dallas - Part 1‬‏ - YouTube

‪Two Men In Dallas - Part 2‬‏ - YouTube


‪Two Men In Dallas - Part 3‬‏ - YouTube

they cant get around this evidence.

can't get around something that's not there..1976 ....I'm guessing that was before you were born!

 

[daws101]

The Warren Commission reportwas made BEFORE the Zapgruder film was made public.

The fatal head-shot was fired from thefront of the motorcade. A no-brainer.

After the Zap film came out - there was lots of revision as to how the head -shot could have come from behind.

was it a no brainer:‪JFK Inside The Target Car Part 1‬‏ - YouTube


‪JFK Inside The Target Car Part 2‬‏ - YouTube

‪JFK Inside The Target Car Part 3‬‏ - YouTube

‪JFK Inside The Target Car Part 4‬‏ - YouTube ...enjoy

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I was always skeptical and had an open mind re the JFK assn - tilted towars the Warren Commission version that Oswald acted alone - but videos don lie - the fatal head shot came from the front of the motorcade.

err have you already forgotten that thread you made a long time ago that said it was ludicrous and absurd for anybody to think otherwise that oswald Killed Kennedy? are you going to admit you made that thread or are you going to force me to dig that up and prove it? btw,did you read that post of mine post # 993 on page 67 that last long post of mine and watch those videos on that page as well that exonerates oswald and proves it was an inside job?

I dont care what I posted a long time ago.

Re-watchinging "JFK" and considering other eveidence - I changed my mind.

Thats what i was saying,better late several decades later to wake up,than never.the first time you watched it,you were obviously half asleep and not paying attention to it.I know many people that have done that.when you pay attention to it,the evidence is overwhelming it was an inside job and oswald had nothing to do with it.Stone exhaustively researched the case before he made the film.a lot of people are ignorant and think that some of the stuff he did was just made up and done for dramatic purposes but thats totally false.you should watch it three or four more times,you will pick up things you missed the previous time around as well..

All the dialouge that took place in that movie is based off interviews given to stone of those actual people that those actors portayed in the movie.matter of fact,there was a guy that lived in dallas who collected thousands of documents from research over the years whom I got to meet and whom Stone used his sources from as well and when someone in the audience asked him how accurate is the movie,he replied saying -About 95%.
Pretty damn accurate I would say.

 

[Liability]

err have you already forgotten that thread you made a long time ago that said it was ludicrous and absurd for anybody to think otherwise that oswald Killed Kennedy? are you going to admit you made that thread or are you going to force me to dig that up and prove it? btw,did you read that post of mine post # 993 on page 67 that last long post of mine and watch those videos on that page as well that exonerates oswald and proves it was an inside job?

I dont care what I posted a long time ago.

Re-watchinging "JFK" and considering other eveidence - I changed my mind.

Thats what i was saying,better late several decades later to wake up,than never.the first time you watched it,you were obviously half asleep and not paying attention to it.I know many people that have done that.when you pay attention to it,the evidence is overwhelming it was an inside job and oswald had nothing to do with it.Stone exhaustively researched the case before he made the film.a lot of people are ignorant and think that some of the stuff he did was just made up and done for dramatic purposes but thats totally false.you should watch it three or four more times,you will pick up things you missed the previous time around as well..

All the dialouge that took place in that movie is based off interviews given to stone of those actual people that those actors portayed in the movie.matter of fact,there was a guy that lived in dallas who collected thousands of documents from research over the years whom I got to meet and whom Stone used his sources from as well and when someone in the audience asked him how accurate is the movie,he replied saying -About 95%.
Pretty damn accurate I would say.

That ******* idjit, 9/11 Rimjob did it.

He assisted JFK in the commission of suicide.

That prick.

 

[daws101]

I dont care what I posted a long time ago.

Re-watchinging "JFK" and considering other eveidence - I changed my mind.

Thats what i was saying,better late several decades later to wake up,than never.the first time you watched it,you were obviously half asleep and not paying attention to it.I know many people that have done that.when you pay attention to it,the evidence is overwhelming it was an inside job and oswald had nothing to do with it.Stone exhaustively researched the case before he made the film.a lot of people are ignorant and think that some of the stuff he did was just made up and done for dramatic purposes but thats totally false.you should watch it three or four more times,you will pick up things you missed the previous time around as well..

All the dialouge that took place in that movie is based off interviews given to stone of those actual people that those actors portayed in the movie.matter of fact,there was a guy that lived in dallas who collected thousands of documents from research over the years whom I got to meet and whom Stone used his sources from as well and when someone in the audience asked him how accurate is the movie,he replied saying -About 95%.
Pretty damn accurate I would say.

That ******* idjit, 9/11 Rimjob did it.

He assisted JFK in the commission of suicide.

That prick.

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