Zone1 The Handmaid's Tale: A Perversion of Christianity

[JoeB131]

Yes, a child's shallow (if any) understanding of the culture,history, etymology, and practices of Old Testament biblical times. Children splash in the shallows of the ocean. Adult understanding takes a greater interest in the depths.

Sometimes it's hard to believe you were ever in Catholic school. I was taught by the Sisters of Notre Dame--excellent teachers and very fine women. Did your teachers ever take you through comparing a lucky rabbit's foot or a lucky penny to artwork? Perhaps they never bothered with your class writing to and contributing to the poor.

No, the nasty old hags just hit kids with wooden rulers. A bunch of frustrated lesbians who took their anger out on children because they could never have them.

But you didn't really answer my point.

Why do you need a bunch of statues of saints for people to pray to? How is that any different between praying to statues of Zeus or Hera?

Joke at my nieces baptism. - My brother is about as religious as I am, but he still baptized his daughters to get them into a Catholic School (which never happened).

Charlie: "Who is that?" pointing to a statue of a guy with a piece of wood."

Me: "That's Saint Joseph. Only my patron saint would have bought THAT story!"

My brother laughed. My sisters just gave us dirty looks.

 

[Meriweather]

No, the nasty old hags just hit kids with wooden rulers. A bunch of frustrated lesbians who took their anger out on children because they could never have them.

But you didn't really answer my point.

Why do you need a bunch of statues of saints for people to pray to? How is that any different between praying to statues of Zeus or Hera?

Your claim of your teachers hitting kids with rulers is why I asked which order taught at your school. The Sisters of Notre Dame NEVER hit any of us, and I do mean never. They never even struck a desk with a ruler to get someone's attention. Looking back, I'm pretty much in awe of them because I was in a class of fifty-four students--one teacher--who managed to keep all of us quiet, orderly, and on task without ever striking anyone.

Catholics do not pray to statues. Catholics do not believe statues can help them or have any power at all. Church is a place of quiet beauty. The church I attended as a child had stained glass windows depicting the mysteries of the rosary and baptism; stations of the cross depicting the arrest and crucifixion of Jesus. Other artwork included statues of Mary, Joseph, angels, and St. Therese, the Little Flower. And, of course, the crucifix. Going into a Catholic Church has much the same impact, of going into quiet glade in a large wooded area with a stream running through. People are naturally drawn to quiet and beauty during times of prayer. You might ask about entering a closet. Right. When one lives in a large family, a closet (even if there was enough room left to squeeze into one) is far from quiet.

What are you implying? That if I find quiet and beauty in church, I must be praying to a statue? And if I find quiet and beauty in a wooded area, I am praying to a tree or a stream? I guess people who do find a closet are praying to a coat, a door, or a wall? I'm guessing if I am reading the Bible as a part of prayer, I'm praying to the Bible? Where, Joe, may a person go to pray to escape your judgement? (Always providing there is a single person who actually cares what you think.)

 

[ding]

Um, except he didn't fix it.

Yep. You have free will.

When you're an immortal being, crucifixion is like the Man Flu.

You suffer what he did and let me know.

You are one of those who watched Mel Gibson's Torture Porn, aren't you?

It was a great movie. Your life is a movie too.

Hold on now, are you saying the Jews made that stuff up and "God" had nothing to do with it?

God didn't write the bible. Men did. Maybe go argue with evangelists.

Why shouldn't they? If everyone involved is a consenting adult, I'm not seeing the problem. And given the popularity of Lesbian Porn, I don't think most people are that upset about it.

So a mom and her son or daughter can get after it if they are consenting adults? Feel free to embrace what ever depravity you want. I won't judge you, but I won't tell you it's good either.

 

[JoeB131]

Your claim of your teachers hitting kids with rulers is why I asked which order taught at your school. The Sisters of Notre Dame NEVER hit any of us, and I do mean never. They never even struck a desk with a ruler to get someone's attention. Looking back, I'm pretty much in awe of them because I was in a class of fifty-four students--one teacher--who managed to keep all of us quiet, orderly, and on task without ever striking anyone.

Our hideous witches were with the OSB.

Funny aside, I was watching The Blues Brothers with my sister, her husband and their daughters. My niece was horrified by the scene with Sr. Mary Stigmata, but we all thought it was hilarious!!!

Yep. You have free will.

Man had free will before Jesus acted like a drama queen.

It was a great movie. Your life is a movie too.

Actually, it's a terrible movie, with some outright anti-Semitism in it. (And given my opposition to Zionism, it takes a lot for me to use that term.)

God didn't write the bible. Men did. Maybe go argue with evangelists.

Then why use the Bible as a source of morality if it is the product of men?

So a mom and her son or daughter can get after it if they are consenting adults? Feel free to embrace what ever depravity you want. I won't judge you, but I won't tell you it's good either.

Again, when you belong to a church where the clergy has been systematically abusing children, you really don't get to preach morality to the rest of us.

 

[JoeB131]

Catholics do not pray to statues. Catholics do not believe statues can help them or have any power at all. Church is a place of quiet beauty. The church I attended as a child had stained glass windows depicting the mysteries of the rosary and baptism; stations of the cross depicting the arrest and crucifixion of Jesus. Other artwork included statues of Mary, Joseph, angels, and St. Therese, the Little Flower. And, of course, the crucifix. Going into a Catholic Church has much the same impact, of going into quiet glade in a large wooded area with a stream running through. People are naturally drawn to quiet and beauty during times of prayer. You might ask about entering a closet. Right. When one lives in a large family, a closet (even if there was enough room left to squeeze into one) is far from quiet.

Mine had Mary, Joseph, St. Francis, Jesus on a Stick,

What are you implying? That if I find quiet and beauty in church, I must be praying to a statue? And if I find quiet and beauty in a wooded area, I am praying to a tree or a stream? I guess people who do find a closet are praying to a coat, a door, or a wall? I'm guessing if I am reading the Bible as a part of prayer, I'm praying to the Bible? Where, Joe, may a person go to pray to escape your judgement? (Always providing there is a single person who actually cares what you think.)

I'm saying why are there statues at all when they are strictly forbidden by the Bible? I know the answer, of course, that when Christianity became the Roman State Religion, they had to replace all those old idols with new idols.

So that statue isn't Juno Lucia anymore, it's now St. Lucy!! And we can make up a patron saint to replace your local God, too.

 

[Meriweather]

Mine had Mary, Joseph, St. Francis, Jesus on a Stick,

What have you against Jesus and his death?