Zone1 The Handmaid's Tale: A Perversion of Christianity

[JoeB131]

Even for Hitler? Or a serial rapist? C'mon, man.

If those were the only guys in hell, I wouldn't have an issue.

But Christian Salvation is pretty messed up, yo!

For instance, take Ann Frank. She's not getting into heaven because she never embraced Jesus as her Lord and Savior.

I hope she doesn't run into Hitler down there, because that would be awkward.

MEANWHILE, Jeff Dahmner totally found Jesus after he was convicted, and then he got his brains bashed in by another inmate.

So by Christian Logic, having been forgiven his sins, he is getting into Heaven. I hope he doesn't run into anyone he ate up there, because that would be awkward. Naw, all those guys are going to hell for being gay!!!

 

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If those were the only guys in hell, I wouldn't have an issue.

But Christian Salvation is pretty messed up, yo!

For instance, take Ann Frank. She's not getting into heaven because she never embraced Jesus as her Lord and Savior.

I hope she doesn't run into Hitler down there, because that would be awkward.

MEANWHILE, Jeff Dahmner totally found Jesus after he was convicted, and then he got his brains bashed in by another inmate.

So by Christian Logic, having been forgiven his sins, he is getting into Heaven. I hope he doesn't run into anyone he ate up there, because that would be awkward. Naw, all those guys are going to hell for being gay!!!

You are tilting at windmills. But thanks for agreeing that hell holds the people who deserve to be held accountable accountable.

So maybe stop whining about hell. It serves a purpose. That or I'll keep bashing you over the head as someone who hates being held accountable.

 

[HikerGuy83]

First, the first Amendment says that if someone wants to run a porn site, or visit one, they should be able to.

Hmmmm.....don't think so.

 

[JoeB131]

You are tilting at windmills. But thanks for agreeing that hell holds the people who deserve to be held accountable accountable.

So maybe stop whining about hell. It serves a purpose. That or I'll keep bashing you over the head as someone who hates being held accountable.

Yawn, guy, the problem with "accountablity" in your terms is that it isn't.

Hell doesn't exist. Heaven doesn't exist. Christianity is designed to get up to accept injustice in this life on the false promise of justice in the next one. It's how the Church has maintained itself for 2000 years.

 

[Meriweather]

That we are too upset about sex and not upset enough about violence.

When it comes to sex/violence in movies and TV programming, my word is boring. When talk turns to movies, TV, I usually don't know what is being discussed. My (grown) daughters have always watched even less that I.

 

[leftwinger]

That is a great analogy very effective writing.

They are this stupid. Stupid Board Oxyen

 

[JoeB131]

They are this stupid. Stupid Board Oxyen

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I think you are in the wrong thread.

 

[JoeB131]

Every thread with Stain posting is a TDS get Orange man attack. So I show the level of hypocrisy or stupidity in those Stain posters. Horrible people.

You all want Trump killed or in prison like those in Iran-Venezula-J6, but there is no crimes? You've looked since 2015.

Your KKKlan has nothing? Yet you keep on posting it? What is wrong with you people?

I would ask what any of this has to do with the Novel "A Handmaid's Tale" by Margaret Atwood, but somehow, I doubt you've ever picked up a book.

Since no one seems able to discuss the book vs. the TV series, let's move on.

 

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Yawn, guy, the problem with "accountablity" in your terms is that it isn't.

Sure it is. I even got you to recant your position. Or would you like to reverse your position again and argue accountability isn't important?

Hell doesn't exist. Heaven doesn't exist.

Let me get this straight... you are making emotional and illogical arguments about something you don't believe exists?

Christianity is designed to get up to accept injustice in this life on the false promise of justice in the next one. It's how the Church has maintained itself for 2000 years.

Injustice exists all on its own. No one accepts it. The difference between you and Christians is that you grudgingly tolerate it with complaint, whereas Christians accept that they live in a fallen (i.e. unfair) world and recognize that good comes from bad and joyfully make sacrifices. They don't do that for the next life. They do that for THIS life.

 

[Hafar1014]

Sure it is. I even got you to recant your position. Or would you like to reverse your position again and argue accountability isn't important?

Let me get this straight... you are making emotional and illogical arguments about something you don't believe exists?

Injustice exists all on its own. No one accepts it. The difference between you and Christians is that you grudgingly tolerate it with complaint, whereas Christians accept that they live in a fallen (i.e. unfair) world and recognize that good comes from bad and joyfully make sacrifices. They don't do that for the next life. They do that for THIS life.

Its not about accountability. Its who is one accountable to. A made up punitive God who uses threats and punishment. A symbol of an abusive father. Or asking forgiveness from the person harmed.

You can be a scumbag your entire lief and minutes before you die you believe in Jesus. Thats the opposite of accountability. Thats amoral

 

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Its not about accountability.

It most certainly is about accountability. You are free to do whatever you want but you are not free to escape the consequences.

Its who is one accountable to.

Everyone is accountable to God.

A made up punitive God who uses threats and punishment.

God isn't made up. God isn't punitive. God is fair and merciful. God is never unjust.

A symbol of an abusive father. Or asking forgiveness from the person harmed.

No. A symbol of fairness and mercy. God reconciles justice with mercy.

You can be a scumbag your entire lief and minutes before you die you believe in Jesus.

I don't believe that's how it works. But however God decides, I trust in his fairness and mercy.

Thats the opposite of accountability.

No. The opposite of accountability is having no consequences.

Thats amoral

I don't believe you understand what amoral means. Amoral describes someone or something having no concern for, or being completely indifferent to, whether behavior is morally right or wrong. It applies to agents lacking moral principles, or situations outside the realm of morality, rather than intentionally breaking rules (immoral).

What you are describing (i.e. no consequences) is an example of amoral.

 

[martybegan]

Islamic Fundamentalism is a reaction to Western Imperialism.

And Western Imperialism was a reaction to Caliphate expansionism.

We can go on like this. Once again "it's only wrong when the side I am pissy with is doing it"

You are the apex of the self loathing and self defeating westerer.

 

[JoeB131]

And Western Imperialism was a reaction to Caliphate expansionism.

We can go on like this. Once again "it's only wrong when the side I am pissy with is doing it"

You are the apex of the self loathing and self defeating westerer.

You can go on like that, but it's kind of stupid and oblivious to history.

The "Caliphate" pretty much stopped expanding in the 17th century.

What am I getting as a Westerner by wars for Israel and the Oil Companies?

It's not an academic question for me. I remember making out my will in 1990 because they were seriously talking about deploying my unit to Kuwait at the time.

Again, Joe's plan for peace We have conscription, and the sons of the Politicians and Wealthy are assigned to an elite airborne unit that will be the first deployed to any war zone the One Percenters think up.

Peace in our time.

Certainly better than sending some working-class kid from Chicago who signed up to pay for college.

 

[martybegan]

You can go on like that, but it's kind of stupid and oblivious to history.

The "Caliphate" pretty much stopped expanding in the 17th century.

What am I getting as a Westerner by wars for Israel and the Oil Companies?

It's not an academic question for me. I remember making out my will in 1990 because they were seriously talking about deploying my unit to Kuwait at the time.

Again, Joe's plan for peace We have conscription, and the sons of the Politicians and Wealthy are assigned to an elite airborne unit that will be the first deployed to any war zone the One Percenters think up.

Peace in our time.

Certainly better than sending some working-class kid from Chicago who signed up to pay for college.

And that's when European Imperialism started. Thanks for making my point.

There is the key word. Signed up. With a volunteer military one can't complain about being sent into danger.

So firefighters can complain about having to fight fires?

 

[Hafar1014]

It most certainly is about accountability. You are free to do whatever you want but you are not free to escape the consequences.

Everyone is accountable to God.

God isn't made up. God isn't punitive. God is fair and merciful. God is never unjust.

No. A symbol of fairness and mercy. God reconciles justice with mercy.

I don't believe that's how it works. But however God decides, I trust in his fairness and mercy.

No. The opposite of accountability is having no consequences.

I don't believe you understand what amoral means. Amoral describes someone or something having no concern for, or being completely indifferent to, whether behavior is morally right or wrong. It applies to agents lacking moral principles, or situations outside the realm of morality, rather than intentionally breaking rules (immoral).

What you are describing (i.e. no consequences) is an example of amoral.

Im not accountable to your idea of God. You are accountable to the people you harm.

 

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Im not accountable to your idea of God. You are accountable to the people you harm.

You don't believe you are accountable to any god.

 

[marvin martian]

If those were the only guys in hell, I wouldn't have an issue.

But Christian Salvation is pretty messed up, yo!

For instance, take Ann Frank. She's not getting into heaven because she never embraced Jesus as her Lord and Savior.

I hope she doesn't run into Hitler down there, because that would be awkward.

MEANWHILE, Jeff Dahmner totally found Jesus after he was convicted, and then he got his brains bashed in by another inmate.

So by Christian Logic, having been forgiven his sins, he is getting into Heaven. I hope he doesn't run into anyone he ate up there, because that would be awkward. Naw, all those guys are going to hell for being gay!!!

^^^This is what happens when you get your religious education from TV shows and Reddit. LOL

 

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^^^This is what happens when you get your religious education from TV shows and Reddit. LOL

Or when one was raised to be a militant atheist.

 

[Hafar1014]

You don't believe you are accountable to any god.

Very true thats called independence

 

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Very true thats called independence

That's called ignorance, pride and arrogance.