The end of human history, Rev 10:6?

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

AtiChrist refers

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

Protestant Reformers claimed that the Papacy was the Antichrist. This was after Martin Luther fell out with the church.

Revelation chapters 1-11 describes the rejection of the Jews and the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans.
Revelation chapters 12 - 19 were the overthrow of Roman paganism and the conversion of the empire to the Church.
Revelation 20 describe the final persecutions by Antichrist, who is identified as Cæsar Nero (54-68 A.D.), and judgment.

Protestants worship the same triune mangod who is in actuality the antichrist. No being whether real or imagined including Nero fits the detailed description of the antichrist as perfectly as this false counterfeit Jesus, who was and is yet to come but is not, that most christian denominations profess to believe in and worship.

A trinity that diddled a virgin to father himself in order to become fully human and fully God, say things no one understood, and perform supernatural demonstrations of divine power only to be tortured and crucified so that believers could eat his flesh and drink his blood every other sunday and high holiday to be forgiven and avoid responsibility for the fucked up things they do because he loved the roman world so much.


yeah, right. I don't think so....

Thank you for the fine illustration of why this is all magical nonsense. No two of you agree on it, and there is no way of telling who is correct. Because magical nonsense is whatever you want it to be. Which means it is meaningless.

 

[surada]

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

AtiChrist refers

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

Protestant Reformers claimed that the Papacy was the Antichrist. This was after Martin Luther fell out with the church.

Revelation chapters 1-11 describes the rejection of the Jews and the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans.
Revelation chapters 12 - 19 were the overthrow of Roman paganism and the conversion of the empire to the Church.
Revelation 20 describe the final persecutions by Antichrist, who is identified as Cæsar Nero (54-68 A.D.), and judgment.

Protestants worship the same triune mangod who is in actuality the antichrist. No being whether real or imagined including Nero fits the detailed description of the antichrist as perfectly as this false counterfeit Jesus, who was and is yet to come but is not, that most christian denominations profess to believe in and worship.

A trinity that diddled a virgin to father himself in order to become fully human and fully God, say things no one understood, and perform supernatural demonstrations of divine power only to be tortured and crucified so that believers could eat his flesh and drink his blood every other sunday and high holiday to be forgiven and avoid responsibility for the fucked up things they do because he loved the roman world so much.


yeah, right. I don't think so....

Thank you for the fine illustration of why this is all magical nonsense. No two of you agree on it, and there is no way of telling who is correct. Because magical nonsense is whatever you want it to be. Which means it is meaningless.

The Bible is not history or science and was never intended as such. It certainly isn't linear. Its commentary on the events of the lives of the Jewish people... borrowed myths, letters, poetry.. metaphors and allegories. Its written for contemplation.

 

[hobelim]

The word didn't smite the nations... the messiah didn't vanquish the enemies of the Jews.

LOL.... Ahem. You are saying the exact opposite of what scripture says. btw, Have you never read a history book?

People who have swallowed, hook, line, and sinker, the god made man made matzo line of bullshit can't discern the absurdity of their professed beliefs that are contradicted by actual reality every single day and are the beliefs of a defeated enemy laid low by that sword.

Dealing with that paralyzing cognitive dissonance daily in this world is like being a mortally wounded animal in a jungle filled with ravenous beasts or chum in shark infested waters.

Insanity is not salvation.

Can I get a duh?

No .. scripture nor history report that Jesus vanquished the enemies of the Jews.

Right. Scripture nor history report that Jesus vanquished the nations by cursing them with a cup of wine (turned into blood), the sword mentioned in Jeremiah 25:15 and throughout scripture.

I have.

If you cannot see the error, the mortal sin, in worshiping and eating and drinking the flesh and blood of a man for spiritual life in the form of a lifeless matzo made by human hands which can neither see, hear, speak, or walk, as if he was the living God it is because you are accursed, dead, killed by the sword from living by the sword.

Its obvious. Damn. Thats the way the cookie crumbles.

Maybe you should go back to the drawing board, re-read the bible, and before you say another single fucking word learn what is the only right course for you to take now in your defiled and contaminated state before the music is over and you find yourself with no place to sit.

Hint ::::: Obstinate stupidity is not the way that leads to eternal life.

Mazel tov!

 

[surada]

The word didn't smite the nations... the messiah didn't vanquish the enemies of the Jews.

LOL.... Ahem. You are saying the exact opposite of what scripture says. btw, Have you never read a history book?

People who have swallowed, hook, line, and sinker, the god made man made matzo line of bullshit can't discern the absurdity of their professed beliefs that are contradicted by actual reality every single day and are the beliefs of a defeated enemy laid low by that sword.

Dealing with that paralyzing cognitive dissonance daily in this world is like being a mortally wounded animal in a jungle filled with ravenous beasts or chum in shark infested waters.

Insanity is not salvation.

Can I get a duh?

No .. scripture nor history report that Jesus vanquished the enemies of the Jews.

Right. Scripture nor history report that Jesus vanquished the nations by cursing them with a cup of wine (turned into blood), the sword mentioned in Jeremiah 25:15 and throughout scripture.

I have.

If you cannot see the error, the mortal sin, in worshiping and eating and drinking the flesh and blood of a man for spiritual life in the form of a lifeless matzo made by human hands which can neither see, hear, speak, or walk, as if he was the living God it is because you are accursed, dead, killed by the sword from living by the sword.

Its obvious. Damn. Thats the way the cookie crumbles.

Maybe you should go back to the drawing board, re-read the bible, and before you say another stupid fucking word learn what is the only right course for you to take now in your defiled and contaminated state.

Mazel tov!

The sword of Jesus is the truth of his mouth. Which nations did he vanquish? Titus commanded soldiers from Rome, Syria, Egypt and the Arabs.. because they could all obtain Roman citizenship by fighting under the Roman command. I think you are mixing the futurism of Scofield, the Darbyites and Hal Lindsey with first century history.

Remembering Jesus sacrifice with the host and the wine is symbolic. No reason to get hung up on that.

Revelation is NOT about the future US or Russia or the European Union or the Arabs or the Church of Rome. Its about 1st century Palestine. Jesus didn't destroy the enemies of the Jews.. namely the Romans.

 

[hobelim]

Thank you for the fine illustration of why this is all magical nonsense. No two of you agree on it, and there is no way of telling who is correct. Because magical nonsense is whatever you want it to be. Which means it is meaningless.

I see. You have no way to distinguish the truth from a lie, no way of telling who is correct, and because you have failed to comprehend the deeper implications of that admission it all must be magical nonsense. lol...

You do have my condolences.

 

[hobelim]

The sword of Jesus is the truth of his mouth.

What truth?

Remembering Jesus sacrifice with the host and the wine is symbolic.

Symbolic of what?

 

[surada]

The sword of Jesus is the truth of his mouth.

What truth?

Remembering Jesus sacrifice with the host and the wine is symbolic.

Symbolic of what?

The truth of the Word.

Read ALL of Jeremiah.. This may help.

Jeremiah 25:18 - The Cup of God's Wrath

to make them a ruin, an object of horror and contempt and cursing, as they are to this day--Jerusalem and the cities of Judah, its kings and officials;

biblehub.com

 

[hobelim]

The sword of Jesus is the truth of his mouth.

What truth?

Remembering Jesus sacrifice with the host and the wine is symbolic.

Symbolic of what?

The truth of the Word.

Read ALL of Jeremiah.. This may help.

Jeremiah 25:18 - The Cup of God's Wrath

to make them a ruin, an object of horror and contempt and cursing, as they are to this day--Jerusalem and the cities of Judah, its kings and officials;

biblehub.com

The preexisting metaphor for the Word of God, manna from heaven, became the flesh of Jesus. Flesh, a new metaphor for teaching from God, given for the life of the world. Life, the promise for compliance with Divine instruction, the Law.


The truth that Jesus revealed is that the words of the law are figurative, the subjects hidden.

Hence "eat my flesh and drink my blood".

Internalize my teaching and act on it, do what I am doing. Stop dicking around with wine and crackers in a whitewashed tomb already. I knew that was bullshit in the second grade. Didn't you? WTF.

Life is in the blood, in the doing.

 

[surada]

The sword of Jesus is the truth of his mouth.

What truth?

Remembering Jesus sacrifice with the host and the wine is symbolic.

Symbolic of what?

The truth of the Word.

Read ALL of Jeremiah.. This may help.

Jeremiah 25:18 - The Cup of God's Wrath

to make them a ruin, an object of horror and contempt and cursing, as they are to this day--Jerusalem and the cities of Judah, its kings and officials;

biblehub.com

The Word of God, manna from heaven, became the flesh of Jesus; flesh, a new metaphor for teaching from God.


The truth that Jesus revealed is that words of the law are figurative, the subjects hidden.

Hence eat my flesh and drink my blood.

Internalize my teaching and act on it, do what I am doing.

Life is in the blood, in the doing.

What exactly is hidden?

Manna is part of the Exodus myth.

 

[hobelim]

What exactly is hidden?

The subjects.

For instance, you have been told that the subject of Kosher law is about what you may or may not eat. I am telling you that the subject of Kosher law is teaching, not food. Swine are vile and loathsome unclean creatures whose flesh (teaching) defiles and contaminates (the mind) specifically because they do not ruminate, think deeply.

Every creature described in the menu whether clean or unclean is analogous of a human archetype.

Didn't your mother teach you how to understand fairy tales before you ever went to school? Did she tell you that they were silly stories about magical nonsense that can never be understood? Did she say nothing? What did your teachers teach? Were you sleeping in the first and second grade?

Manna is part of the Exodus myth.

Yes. Manna, bread from heaven, is a metaphor for teaching from God, the food of angels. This teaching is what sustained them in the wilderness.

Remember what Jesus said to Satan?

"Man does not live by bread alone but by every word that God utters."

 

[norwegen]

According to the Scriptures, the only people Jesus vanquished were the Jews (the temple hierarchy).

 

[hobelim]

According to the Scriptures, the only people Jesus vanquished were the Jews (the temple hierarchy).

So when Jesus said, " I have overcome (conquered) the world", he was what?

Delusional? lol.


I don't think so...

 

[ding]

According to the Scriptures, the only people Jesus vanquished were the Jews (the temple hierarchy).

So when Jesus said, " I have overcome (conquered) the world", he was what?

Delusional? lol.


I don't think so...

You have to read it in context. Then it's pretty obvious that your interpretation sucks ass.

"I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."

 

[ding]

As long as people "worship" the material world at the exclusion of God, they will not have peace.

 

[norwegen]

The notion that a God who so loved the world would send into it a Messiah to vanquish nations at random is just ridiculous. The only nation He had any reason to vanquish was Israel.

 

[hobelim]

The notion that a God who so loved the world would send into it a Messiah to vanquish nations at random is just ridiculous. The only nation He had any reason to vanquish was Israel.

So loved the world? lol...Yeah, right.

And there is nothing random about it. It is a very clear specific and methodical stratagem, set in place like a well built and inescapable mouse trap.

Think of it as the easy conquest of this entire world by living beings from another sphere of higher intelligences.

And no one can do a damn thing about it.

 

[norwegen]

So loved the world? lol...Yeah, right.

If you don't believe the Bible, then our discussion is over.

 

[hobelim]

So loved the world? lol...Yeah, right.

If you don't believe the Bible, then our discussion is over.

Thank God. Another one bites the dust.

Oh! Wait a minute!

I do believe that Zechariah 11:6. is true....Does that count?

 

[ding]

The notion that a God who so loved the world would send into it a Messiah to vanquish nations at random is just ridiculous. The only nation He had any reason to vanquish was Israel.

So loved the world? lol...Yeah, right.

And there is nothing random about it. It is a very clear specific and methodical stratagem, set in place like a well built and inescapable mouse trap.

Think of it as the easy conquest of this entire world by living beings from another sphere of higher intelligences.

And no one can do a damn thing about it.

Yes, so loved the world enough to create existence to share in our existence. So loved the world that he chose to be born into this world to testify to the truth and suffer death to reconcile justice with mercy.

And try as you might you can't do a damn thing about it. What you intend for evil He is using for the good of those who love Him.

 

[hobelim]

Yes, so loved the world enough to create existence to share in our existence.

lol... Copra sanctum! Do ya'll even have an inkling how absurd that is?

btw, How many of you are there?