The end of human history, Rev 10:6?

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Bible is not history or science and was never intended as such.

Of course, that's wrong, and it was intended as both of those things and as philosophy. And it was one of our first and worst attempts at all three. Yes, the myths were intended to be true and to be accurate explanations. . It's time to put away the childish toys of our past.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You have no way to distinguish the truth from a lie, no way of telling who is correct,

No, that's your problem, not mine. All of this stuff is hilarious nonsense, to me. But you religious folks have no way to tell who is right and who is wrong. So your little sectarian domestic dispute will continue...forever....

 

[surada]

The Bible is not history or science and was never intended as such.

Of course, that's wrong, and it was intended as both of those things and as philosophy. And it was one of our first and worst attempts at all three. Yes, the myths were intended to be true and to be accurate explanations. . It's time to put away the childish toys of our past.

I doubt it.. By the time of Adam and Eve the Sumerians already had agriculture, a written language, irrigation and sailboats.

The Jews borrowed the wonderful stories from their neighbors and embellished them... like Noah's flood, Sargon or Sunuhe found in baskets on the Nile and the creation story of the garden.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I doubt it.. By the time of Adam and Eve the Sumerians already had agriculture, a written language, irrigation and sailboats.

I have no idea what that has to do with anything, and i find this non sequitur to be a rude tactic.

The Jews borrowed the wonderful stories from their neighbors and embellished them...

And believed every word as literal. Many still do. All claims otherwise are errors or lies.

 

[surada]

I doubt it.. By the time of Adam and Eve the Sumerians already had agriculture, a written language, irrigation and sailboats.

I have no idea what that has to do with anything, and i find this non sequitur to be a rude tactic.

The Jews borrowed the wonderful stories from their neighbors and embellished them...

And believed every word as literal. Many still do. All claims otherwise are errors or lies.

You're kidding.. All these stories predate the Jews and can be found in ancient clay tablets from Sumer to Ras Shamra to Dilmun.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I doubt it.. By the time of Adam and Eve the Sumerians already had agriculture, a written language, irrigation and sailboats.

I have no idea what that has to do with anything, and i find this non sequitur to be a rude tactic.

The Jews borrowed the wonderful stories from their neighbors and embellished them...

And believed every word as literal. Many still do. All claims otherwise are errors or lies.

You're kidding.. All these stories predate the Jews and can be found in ancient clay tablets from Sumer to Ras Shamra to Dilmun.

And they believed every word, because they believed in magic. We send rovers to Mars, yet still YECers pollute the science section on this message board. Sorry my man...all of the facts are on my side, here.

 

[hobelim]

You have no way to distinguish the truth from a lie, no way of telling who is correct,

No, that's your problem, not mine. All of this stuff is hilarious nonsense, to me. But you religious folks have no way to tell who is right and who is wrong. So your little sectarian domestic dispute will continue...forever....

Forever? Nonsense. Forever is a very long time, as long as never, but it won't be long before those silly stories will have accomplished their purpose and then the disputes will end forever and a new book will be written.

One day even you may be remembered as a mythological creature, the star of a future fairy tale warning children about the consequences of being a jerk.

 

[surada]

I doubt it.. By the time of Adam and Eve the Sumerians already had agriculture, a written language, irrigation and sailboats.

I have no idea what that has to do with anything, and i find this non sequitur to be a rude tactic.

The Jews borrowed the wonderful stories from their neighbors and embellished them...

And believed every word as literal. Many still do. All claims otherwise are errors or lies.

You're kidding.. All these stories predate the Jews and can be found in ancient clay tablets from Sumer to Ras Shamra to Dilmun.

And they believed every word, because they believed in magic. We send rovers to Mars, yet still YECers pollute the science section on this message board. Sorry my man...all of the facts are on my side, here.

I'm not a man.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Forever? Nonsense.

Yes, forever, or until the end of humans. Because you guys have no good method for discerning which bits of your magical horseshit are true and which are false. This isn't a complicated concept.

 

[hobelim]

Forever? Nonsense.

Yes, forever, or until the end of humans. Because you guys have no good method for discerning which bits of your magical horseshit are true and which are false. This isn't a complicated concept.

I can't speak for any "you guys".

I, however, do have the means of discerning what is either true or false.

You, on the other hand professor, are too lazy to examine the evidence so you jump up and down yelling magical nonsense like it was an ornamental bone in your nose that wards off evil spirits.

That bone in your nose, no substitute for rational thinking, can be one of the defining characteristics of that mythological creature inspired by you in a future fairy tale.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I, however, do have the means of discerning what is either true or false.

Says you and everyone else about themselves. Sorry...i simply don't believe you are the one shaman in history with the correct method. So you will have to sell that magical infomercial to someone else. Obviously it is most likely that you are all just full of shit, as opposed to one guy being correct and all the others being full of shit.

 

[hobelim]

I, however, do have the means of discerning what is either true or false.

Says you and everyone else about themselves. Sorry...i simply don't believe you are the one shaman in history with the correct method. So you will have to sell that magical infomercial to someone else. Obviously it is most likely that you are all just full of shit, as opposed to one guy being correct and all the others being full of shit.

Sure, but most likely isn't a substitute for rational reasoning, a means by which the truth can be found.

I know you may never have considered the possibility that you are the one who is full of shit , but again, you are too lazy and vain to consider that.

Your dismissive thinking believing that you have it all figured out is a flaw that you share with all of those guys you deride as full of shit.

Maybe you should be named the brown nosed toothless shit eater in that developing fairy tale.

You are quite the inspiration!

 

[surada]

I, however, do have the means of discerning what is either true or false.

Says you and everyone else about themselves. Sorry...i simply don't believe you are the one shaman in history with the correct method. So you will have to sell that magical infomercial to someone else. Obviously it is most likely that you are all just full of shit, as opposed to one guy being correct and all the others being full of shit.

Sure, but most likely isn't a substitute for rational reasoning, a means by which the truth can be found.

I know you may never have considered the possibility that you are the one who is full of shit , but again, you are too lazy and vain to consider that.

A flaw that you share with all of those guys you deride as full of shit.

You have been referring to hidden meanings and your special discernment. Honey, that's nut stuff.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sure, but most likely isn't a substitute for rational reasoning, a means by which the truth can be found.

No. Sorry. The truth is found by evidence. The best, most consistent theory is useless without evidence, and falls apart when evidence stands against it.

But again, these are foreign concepts in the realm of magical thinking. So no two of you will ever agree on all of it, or probably even most of it.

 

[hobelim]

You have been referring to hidden meanings and your special discernment. Honey, that's nut stuff.

Oh please! Now you are just being deliberately stupid.

Every fairy tale has a hidden teaching not directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used that requires rational thinking to discern.

(Am I telling you something that you didn't already know?)

But not the bible?

Stupid.

 

[hobelim]

Sure, but most likely isn't a substitute for rational reasoning, a means by which the truth can be found.

No. Sorry. The truth is found by evidence. The best, most consistent theory is useless without evidence, and falls apart when evidence stands against it.

But again, these are foreign concepts in the realm of magical thinking. So no two of you will ever agree on all of it, or probably even most of it.

Any story that starts with "in the beginning", just like "once upon a time" and introduces a talking serpent is a children's story with a hidden teaching.

What more evidence do you need mr smarty pants?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Any story that starts with "in the beginning", just like "once upon a time" and introduces a talking serpent is a children's story with a hidden

I know your methods, shaman. You don't need to rehash them. But i do find it interesting that your entire paradigm rests on the iron aged myths being fiction. Of course, it's only fiction up to the point of things you take literally, like sky daddies. Because...says you.

 

[surada]

You have been referring to hidden meanings and your special discernment. Honey, that's nut stuff.

Oh please! Now you are just being stupid.

Every fairy tale has a hidden teaching not directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used. (Am I telling you something that you didn't already know?)

But not the bible?

Stupid.

Like this?

Coronavirus and the Coming New World Order

www.christianevidence.net

 

[hobelim]

You have been referring to hidden meanings and your special discernment. Honey, that's nut stuff.

Oh please! Now you are just being stupid.

Every fairy tale has a hidden teaching not directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used. (Am I telling you something that you didn't already know?)

But not the bible?

Stupid.

Like this?

Coronavirus and the Coming New World Order

www.christianevidence.net

Yeah, as stupid as that

 

[hobelim]

You have been referring to hidden meanings and your special discernment. Honey, that's nut stuff.

Oh please! Now you are just being stupid.

Every fairy tale has a hidden teaching not directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used. (Am I telling you something that you didn't already know?)

But not the bible?

Stupid.

Like this?

Coronavirus and the Coming New World Order

www.christianevidence.net

The tribulation began at the destruction of Judea. The reign of the antichrist began in 325 c.e. and ensuing "new world order' and the persecution of " those who maintain allegiance to Jesus" and "all those who keep Gods commands", in the name of a false three in one edible mangod, has continued to this day.

The end of this age of darkness, the reign of the antichrist, the tribulation, and the "creation" of a new heaven and a new earth occurs when Jesus returns and rules this planet with an iron rod.

You might want to be careful.

If you mistake the second appearance of the Christ and the changes he brings to the earth for the prophesized reign of terror of the antichrist, which has been raging unabated for the past 1600 years (yet you seem to be unaware of it), you will be fucked forever.


See How good God is in his mercy?

Many people will see the destruction of the antichrist, the end of the tribulation and the creation of a new Heaven and a new earth before they find out the anticipated terrifying events of the tribulation and antichrist, that they have been witnessing and experiencing all of their lives unaware, derp, began a very very long time ago, way before they were even born.