The end of human history, Rev 10:6?

[surada]

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

The new Christians fled Jerusalem for Pella.

I don't think you know much about Christianity and what little you do know is influenced by Cyrus Scofield and nut jobs like Hal Lindsey. But, good luck anyway.

 

[ding]

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

The new Christians fled Jerusalem for Pella.

I don't think you know much about Christianity and what little you do know is influenced by Cyrus Scofield and nut jobs like Hal Lindsey. But, good luck anyway.

You and I don't see eye to eye on everything, but I am happy for you to have different views when we don't. Unlike some people here, you are honest with your beliefs.

 

[hobelim]

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

AtiChrist refers

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

Protestant Reformers claimed that the Papacy was the Antichrist. This was after Martin Luther fell out with the church.

Revelation chapters 1-11 describes the rejection of the Jews and the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans.
Revelation chapters 12 - 19 were the overthrow of Roman paganism and the conversion of the empire to the Church.
Revelation 20 describe the final persecutions by Antichrist, who is identified as Cæsar Nero (54-68 A.D.), and judgment.

Protestants worship the same triune mangod who is in actuality the antichrist. No being whether real or imagined including Nero fits the detailed description of the antichrist as perfectly as this false counterfeit Jesus, who was and is yet to come but is not, that most christian denominations profess to believe in and worship.

A trinity that diddled a virgin to father himself in order to become fully human and fully God and say things no one understood, performed supernatural demonstrations of divine power, only to be tortured and crucified so that believers could eat his flesh and drink his blood every other sunday and high holiday because he loved the roman world so much.


yeah, right. I don't think so....

A couple of observations from reading your last few posts...

You don't have beliefs as much as you have arguments against the beliefs of others. Which is quite unusual and revealing. It's like you are on a mission. In fact, reading through this text chain I can't even see where you have even stated your beliefs.

I would have said you criticize what you don't believe to arrive at what you do believe without ever having to examine what you believe but I have no idea what you believe other than Christianity bad.

Lastly... from what I could tell about your beliefs is that you seem to think that Christianity is about getting into heaven or keeping out of hell. This tells me you have no clue what Christianity is about. Christianity is about the journey, not the destination. You are obsessed with heaven and hell.

The Trinity did not diddle a virgin. I find that as offensive as if you said you diddled my mother. Would you like it if I said I diddled your mother or wife? So I can only assume you say these things to be offensive; to get a reaction; to be a dick. Do you believe you are justified in doing this? If so, why?

pft.

Don't clam up now. Do you believe you are justified in what you are doing? If so, why?

I do exactly as God commands because I am keystone in the Yahad of God; the habitation of light.

Now is the time when the hidden purpose of God is revealed.

There is no one else in heaven, on the earth, or under the earth who can do what I am doing and have already done.

Thats why.

What did God command you to do?

My task is to bear witness to the truth.

Why do you perjure yourself in the name of God?

Let's stay on point here.

What is the truth that you are bearing witness too?

Can't you read ?

Yes, I can read. Can you show me what I was supposed to read to get the answer to What is the truth that you are bearing witness too?

Because it was not obvious to me.

If you are here to testify to the truth, then testify. Don't beat around the bush.

I have been speaking in plain language for a very long time. If you have failed to comprehend the written words its because you are dead, as I have already pointed out many times, as a consequence for your mortal sins.

How is it that you have allowed Satan to enter your mind to perpetuate lies?

 

[ding]

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

AtiChrist refers

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

Protestant Reformers claimed that the Papacy was the Antichrist. This was after Martin Luther fell out with the church.

Revelation chapters 1-11 describes the rejection of the Jews and the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans.
Revelation chapters 12 - 19 were the overthrow of Roman paganism and the conversion of the empire to the Church.
Revelation 20 describe the final persecutions by Antichrist, who is identified as Cæsar Nero (54-68 A.D.), and judgment.

Protestants worship the same triune mangod who is in actuality the antichrist. No being whether real or imagined including Nero fits the detailed description of the antichrist as perfectly as this false counterfeit Jesus, who was and is yet to come but is not, that most christian denominations profess to believe in and worship.

A trinity that diddled a virgin to father himself in order to become fully human and fully God and say things no one understood, performed supernatural demonstrations of divine power, only to be tortured and crucified so that believers could eat his flesh and drink his blood every other sunday and high holiday because he loved the roman world so much.


yeah, right. I don't think so....

A couple of observations from reading your last few posts...

You don't have beliefs as much as you have arguments against the beliefs of others. Which is quite unusual and revealing. It's like you are on a mission. In fact, reading through this text chain I can't even see where you have even stated your beliefs.

I would have said you criticize what you don't believe to arrive at what you do believe without ever having to examine what you believe but I have no idea what you believe other than Christianity bad.

Lastly... from what I could tell about your beliefs is that you seem to think that Christianity is about getting into heaven or keeping out of hell. This tells me you have no clue what Christianity is about. Christianity is about the journey, not the destination. You are obsessed with heaven and hell.

The Trinity did not diddle a virgin. I find that as offensive as if you said you diddled my mother. Would you like it if I said I diddled your mother or wife? So I can only assume you say these things to be offensive; to get a reaction; to be a dick. Do you believe you are justified in doing this? If so, why?

pft.

Don't clam up now. Do you believe you are justified in what you are doing? If so, why?

I do exactly as God commands because I am keystone in the Yahad of God; the habitation of light.

Now is the time when the hidden purpose of God is revealed.

There is no one else in heaven, on the earth, or under the earth who can do what I am doing and have already done.

Thats why.

What did God command you to do?

My task is to bear witness to the truth.

Why do you perjure yourself in the name of God?

Let's stay on point here.

What is the truth that you are bearing witness too?

Can't you read ?

Yes, I can read. Can you show me what I was supposed to read to get the answer to What is the truth that you are bearing witness too?

Because it was not obvious to me.

If you are here to testify to the truth, then testify. Don't beat around the bush.

I have been speaking in plain language for a very long time. If you have failed to comprehend the written words its because you are dead, as I have already pointed out many times, as a consequence for your mortal sins.

How is it that you have allowed Satan to enter your mind to perpetuate lies?

Actually you haven't. You have intentionally been vague and misleading because you - like TNHarley - are here to play games. It's actually more like masturbation.

Here's the thing though, people like that do that because they want others to suffer like they suffer. Unfortunately, it's not possible for anyone to suffer as much as you guys suffer.

 

[surada]

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

The new Christians fled Jerusalem for Pella.

I don't think you know much about Christianity and what little you do know is influenced by Cyrus Scofield and nut jobs like Hal Lindsey. But, good luck anyway.

You and I don't see eye to eye on everything, but I am happy for you to have different views when we don't. Unlike some people here, you are honest with your beliefs.

If you’ve studied first century history, you’re probably familiar with the story about the followers of Christ who fled from Judea to Pella just before the Jewish-Roman War began in AD 66.

Jesus referenced the persecution and abominations of Antiochus IV Epiphanes saying when you see the Abomination of Desolation again, flee to the mountains. That's when the Book of Daniel was written. Hard times all around between Antiochus and the Maccabean Revolt..

Cyrus Scofield is the father of Christian Zionism and the Dallas Theological Seminary that has turned out thousands of evangelical preachers who base their beliefs on Scofield's bible.

 

[ding]

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

The new Christians fled Jerusalem for Pella.

I don't think you know much about Christianity and what little you do know is influenced by Cyrus Scofield and nut jobs like Hal Lindsey. But, good luck anyway.

You and I don't see eye to eye on everything, but I am happy for you to have different views when we don't. Unlike some people here, you are honest with your beliefs.

If you’ve studied first century history, you’re probably familiar with the story about the followers of Christ who fled from Judea to Pella just before the Jewish-Roman War began in AD 66.

Jesus referenced the persecution and abominations of Antiochus IV Epiphanes saying when you see the Abomination of Desolation again, flee to the mountains. That's when the Book of Daniel was written. Hard times all around between Antiochus and the Maccabean Revolt..

Cyrus Scofield is the father of Christian Zionism and the Dallas Theological Seminary that has turned out thousands of evangelical preachers who base their beliefs on Scofield's bible.

I am not that well versed, no. But I have a talent for spotting people who are not genuine.

 

[surada]

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

The new Christians fled Jerusalem for Pella.

I don't think you know much about Christianity and what little you do know is influenced by Cyrus Scofield and nut jobs like Hal Lindsey. But, good luck anyway.

You and I don't see eye to eye on everything, but I am happy for you to have different views when we don't. Unlike some people here, you are honest with your beliefs.

If you’ve studied first century history, you’re probably familiar with the story about the followers of Christ who fled from Judea to Pella just before the Jewish-Roman War began in AD 66.

Jesus referenced the persecution and abominations of Antiochus IV Epiphanes saying when you see the Abomination of Desolation again, flee to the mountains. That's when the Book of Daniel was written. Hard times all around between Antiochus and the Maccabean Revolt..

Cyrus Scofield is the father of Christian Zionism and the Dallas Theological Seminary that has turned out thousands of evangelical preachers who base their beliefs on Scofield's bible.

I am not that well versed, no. But I have a talent for spotting people who are not genuine.

You mean me or hobelin?

I don't understand what he's talking about. He seems to be a literalist who is fighting the Bible as if it were history and science.

 

[TNHarley]

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

AtiChrist refers

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

Protestant Reformers claimed that the Papacy was the Antichrist. This was after Martin Luther fell out with the church.

Revelation chapters 1-11 describes the rejection of the Jews and the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans.
Revelation chapters 12 - 19 were the overthrow of Roman paganism and the conversion of the empire to the Church.
Revelation 20 describe the final persecutions by Antichrist, who is identified as Cæsar Nero (54-68 A.D.), and judgment.

Protestants worship the same triune mangod who is in actuality the antichrist. No being whether real or imagined including Nero fits the detailed description of the antichrist as perfectly as this false counterfeit Jesus, who was and is yet to come but is not, that most christian denominations profess to believe in and worship.

A trinity that diddled a virgin to father himself in order to become fully human and fully God and say things no one understood, performed supernatural demonstrations of divine power, only to be tortured and crucified so that believers could eat his flesh and drink his blood every other sunday and high holiday because he loved the roman world so much.


yeah, right. I don't think so....

A couple of observations from reading your last few posts...

You don't have beliefs as much as you have arguments against the beliefs of others. Which is quite unusual and revealing. It's like you are on a mission. In fact, reading through this text chain I can't even see where you have even stated your beliefs.

I would have said you criticize what you don't believe to arrive at what you do believe without ever having to examine what you believe but I have no idea what you believe other than Christianity bad.

Lastly... from what I could tell about your beliefs is that you seem to think that Christianity is about getting into heaven or keeping out of hell. This tells me you have no clue what Christianity is about. Christianity is about the journey, not the destination. You are obsessed with heaven and hell.

The Trinity did not diddle a virgin. I find that as offensive as if you said you diddled my mother. Would you like it if I said I diddled your mother or wife? So I can only assume you say these things to be offensive; to get a reaction; to be a dick. Do you believe you are justified in doing this? If so, why?

pft.

Don't clam up now. Do you believe you are justified in what you are doing? If so, why?

I do exactly as God commands because I am keystone in the Yahad of God; the habitation of light.

Now is the time when the hidden purpose of God is revealed.

There is no one else in heaven, on the earth, or under the earth who can do what I am doing and have already done.

Thats why.

What did God command you to do?

My task is to bear witness to the truth.

Why do you perjure yourself in the name of God?

Let's stay on point here.

What is the truth that you are bearing witness too?

Can't you read ?

Yes, I can read. Can you show me what I was supposed to read to get the answer to What is the truth that you are bearing witness too?

Because it was not obvious to me.

If you are here to testify to the truth, then testify. Don't beat around the bush.

I have been speaking in plain language for a very long time. If you have failed to comprehend the written words its because you are dead, as I have already pointed out many times, as a consequence for your mortal sins.

How is it that you have allowed Satan to enter your mind to perpetuate lies?

Actually you haven't. You have intentionally been vague and misleading because you - like TNHarley - are here to play games. It's actually more like masturbation.

Here's the thing though, people like that do that because they want others to suffer like they suffer. Unfortunately, it's not possible for anyone to suffer as much as you guys suffer.

I dont suffer

 

[ding]

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

AtiChrist refers

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

Protestant Reformers claimed that the Papacy was the Antichrist. This was after Martin Luther fell out with the church.

Revelation chapters 1-11 describes the rejection of the Jews and the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans.
Revelation chapters 12 - 19 were the overthrow of Roman paganism and the conversion of the empire to the Church.
Revelation 20 describe the final persecutions by Antichrist, who is identified as Cæsar Nero (54-68 A.D.), and judgment.

Protestants worship the same triune mangod who is in actuality the antichrist. No being whether real or imagined including Nero fits the detailed description of the antichrist as perfectly as this false counterfeit Jesus, who was and is yet to come but is not, that most christian denominations profess to believe in and worship.

A trinity that diddled a virgin to father himself in order to become fully human and fully God and say things no one understood, performed supernatural demonstrations of divine power, only to be tortured and crucified so that believers could eat his flesh and drink his blood every other sunday and high holiday because he loved the roman world so much.


yeah, right. I don't think so....

A couple of observations from reading your last few posts...

You don't have beliefs as much as you have arguments against the beliefs of others. Which is quite unusual and revealing. It's like you are on a mission. In fact, reading through this text chain I can't even see where you have even stated your beliefs.

I would have said you criticize what you don't believe to arrive at what you do believe without ever having to examine what you believe but I have no idea what you believe other than Christianity bad.

Lastly... from what I could tell about your beliefs is that you seem to think that Christianity is about getting into heaven or keeping out of hell. This tells me you have no clue what Christianity is about. Christianity is about the journey, not the destination. You are obsessed with heaven and hell.

The Trinity did not diddle a virgin. I find that as offensive as if you said you diddled my mother. Would you like it if I said I diddled your mother or wife? So I can only assume you say these things to be offensive; to get a reaction; to be a dick. Do you believe you are justified in doing this? If so, why?

pft.

Don't clam up now. Do you believe you are justified in what you are doing? If so, why?

I do exactly as God commands because I am keystone in the Yahad of God; the habitation of light.

Now is the time when the hidden purpose of God is revealed.

There is no one else in heaven, on the earth, or under the earth who can do what I am doing and have already done.

Thats why.

What did God command you to do?

My task is to bear witness to the truth.

Why do you perjure yourself in the name of God?

Let's stay on point here.

What is the truth that you are bearing witness too?

Can't you read ?

Yes, I can read. Can you show me what I was supposed to read to get the answer to What is the truth that you are bearing witness too?

Because it was not obvious to me.

If you are here to testify to the truth, then testify. Don't beat around the bush.

I have been speaking in plain language for a very long time. If you have failed to comprehend the written words its because you are dead, as I have already pointed out many times, as a consequence for your mortal sins.

How is it that you have allowed Satan to enter your mind to perpetuate lies?

Actually you haven't. You have intentionally been vague and misleading because you - like TNHarley - are here to play games. It's actually more like masturbation.

Here's the thing though, people like that do that because they want others to suffer like they suffer. Unfortunately, it's not possible for anyone to suffer as much as you guys suffer.

I dont suffer

Who are you trying to convince?

 

[TNHarley]

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

AtiChrist refers

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

Protestant Reformers claimed that the Papacy was the Antichrist. This was after Martin Luther fell out with the church.

Revelation chapters 1-11 describes the rejection of the Jews and the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans.
Revelation chapters 12 - 19 were the overthrow of Roman paganism and the conversion of the empire to the Church.
Revelation 20 describe the final persecutions by Antichrist, who is identified as Cæsar Nero (54-68 A.D.), and judgment.

Protestants worship the same triune mangod who is in actuality the antichrist. No being whether real or imagined including Nero fits the detailed description of the antichrist as perfectly as this false counterfeit Jesus, who was and is yet to come but is not, that most christian denominations profess to believe in and worship.

A trinity that diddled a virgin to father himself in order to become fully human and fully God and say things no one understood, performed supernatural demonstrations of divine power, only to be tortured and crucified so that believers could eat his flesh and drink his blood every other sunday and high holiday because he loved the roman world so much.


yeah, right. I don't think so....

A couple of observations from reading your last few posts...

You don't have beliefs as much as you have arguments against the beliefs of others. Which is quite unusual and revealing. It's like you are on a mission. In fact, reading through this text chain I can't even see where you have even stated your beliefs.

I would have said you criticize what you don't believe to arrive at what you do believe without ever having to examine what you believe but I have no idea what you believe other than Christianity bad.

Lastly... from what I could tell about your beliefs is that you seem to think that Christianity is about getting into heaven or keeping out of hell. This tells me you have no clue what Christianity is about. Christianity is about the journey, not the destination. You are obsessed with heaven and hell.

The Trinity did not diddle a virgin. I find that as offensive as if you said you diddled my mother. Would you like it if I said I diddled your mother or wife? So I can only assume you say these things to be offensive; to get a reaction; to be a dick. Do you believe you are justified in doing this? If so, why?

pft.

Don't clam up now. Do you believe you are justified in what you are doing? If so, why?

I do exactly as God commands because I am keystone in the Yahad of God; the habitation of light.

Now is the time when the hidden purpose of God is revealed.

There is no one else in heaven, on the earth, or under the earth who can do what I am doing and have already done.

Thats why.

What did God command you to do?

My task is to bear witness to the truth.

Why do you perjure yourself in the name of God?

Let's stay on point here.

What is the truth that you are bearing witness too?

Can't you read ?

Yes, I can read. Can you show me what I was supposed to read to get the answer to What is the truth that you are bearing witness too?

Because it was not obvious to me.

If you are here to testify to the truth, then testify. Don't beat around the bush.

I have been speaking in plain language for a very long time. If you have failed to comprehend the written words its because you are dead, as I have already pointed out many times, as a consequence for your mortal sins.

How is it that you have allowed Satan to enter your mind to perpetuate lies?

Actually you haven't. You have intentionally been vague and misleading because you - like TNHarley - are here to play games. It's actually more like masturbation.

Here's the thing though, people like that do that because they want others to suffer like they suffer. Unfortunately, it's not possible for anyone to suffer as much as you guys suffer.

I dont suffer

Who are you trying to convince?

Dont believe me then lol. Like i care.

 

[ding]

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

The new Christians fled Jerusalem for Pella.

I don't think you know much about Christianity and what little you do know is influenced by Cyrus Scofield and nut jobs like Hal Lindsey. But, good luck anyway.

You and I don't see eye to eye on everything, but I am happy for you to have different views when we don't. Unlike some people here, you are honest with your beliefs.

If you’ve studied first century history, you’re probably familiar with the story about the followers of Christ who fled from Judea to Pella just before the Jewish-Roman War began in AD 66.

Jesus referenced the persecution and abominations of Antiochus IV Epiphanes saying when you see the Abomination of Desolation again, flee to the mountains. That's when the Book of Daniel was written. Hard times all around between Antiochus and the Maccabean Revolt..

Cyrus Scofield is the father of Christian Zionism and the Dallas Theological Seminary that has turned out thousands of evangelical preachers who base their beliefs on Scofield's bible.

I am not that well versed, no. But I have a talent for spotting people who are not genuine.

You mean me or hobelin?

I don't understand what he's talking about. He seems to be a literalist who is fighting the Bible as if it were history and science.

Hobelim.

You are genuine.

Hobelim is not a literalist. Hobelim - like TN and Taz - are subversives. They condemn respect for people of faith - especially Christians. It's sport for them.

 

[ding]

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

AtiChrist refers

The new age did begin long ago.. The antichrist persecuted the Jews.. That's what Nero and Domitian did.. and what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did..

Nonsense. The persecution of the Jewish people continues to this day. Same as it ever was.

The tribulation does not end and the new age does not begin until the antichrist (the triune god made man made matzo made by human hands) is destroyed at the return of the Holy One of God. Then there will be peace on earth among all people. Scripture is quite clear. Your thinking is not.

Read a newspaper. You are under a delusion. You bear the mark of the beast. This is not Kosher.

Unless you repent you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

The Mark of the Beast was a permit that allowed Jews to buy and sell .. To get the permit, they had to worship the Roman Emperor on his birthday.

New Christians escaped the tribulation by leaving Jerusalem and fleeing to the mountains as Jesus to them to do.

Not only does the New Testament foretell the end of the Jewish Age, but it also relates the imminence of that end. No delay.

Two thousand years would obviously be a delay. Israel's prophecies were realized nearly two thousand years ago.

The Jewish Age has never ended.

Temple Judaism was finished.. The Great Tribulation was over in 70 AD.

yeah sure, try and tell that to the survivors of the holocaust or anyone living under sharia law.

Where did you live under Sharia law?

The Holocaust was a European event.

lol.... right, a european event...


Maybe you should try living among those who believe that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him is a good thing that absolves them for the responsibility of every fucked up thing they do to unbelievers in the name of a triune edible mangod, the antichrist himself, and then we'll talk.

If people are still in hells keeping living under this delusion, the great tribulation that began in 325.ce, when rome unleashed on the world a false sugar coated substitute Jesus, a pusillanimous edible triune mangod that never actually existed, isn't over yet.

Maybe you shouldn't misstate a faith that is not your own. It's certainly not in keeping with someone who claims to be "I am he who is." Apparently you have no idea what that actually means.

I have never misstated a faith that is not my own. In fact Surada has never stated their faith since our discussion is about reading comprehension, or lack of, concerning what amount to fairy tales as they apply to real life and the actual historical record.

It is your faith in the ridiculous that prevents you from following a rational conversation and seeing what has been hidden and buried in those tales.

Listen. I will tell you something. Try to hear.


Since the very day you first degraded yourself and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a lifeless matzo made by human hands decades ago you died and descended into the netherworld where you remain in hell as an insignificant part of a self-negating multiplicity consigned to destruction by he who truly is God.

So go on and enjoy your faith, I really don't give a crap, eat Jesus, celebrate his death, violate the first command as an expression of your love for and devotion to God, beg for forgiveness for being a worthless piece of shit, deliberately, and leave the rational thinking to living beings.

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

ok.

The tribulation began when Judea was destroyed but the reign of the antichrist only began in 325 ce when Rome declared that Jesus was a triune god made man made matzo made by human hands and set out to conquer the world in the name of this almighty yet edible counterfeit Jesus.

The Christian practice of anathema, no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast, a professed belief in the antichrist, was only one of the cruel means to that end and remains in use to this day.

And by the way none of his disciples or any so called new Christians escaped anything.

No one ever does.

Protestant Reformers claimed that the Papacy was the Antichrist. This was after Martin Luther fell out with the church.

Revelation chapters 1-11 describes the rejection of the Jews and the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans.
Revelation chapters 12 - 19 were the overthrow of Roman paganism and the conversion of the empire to the Church.
Revelation 20 describe the final persecutions by Antichrist, who is identified as Cæsar Nero (54-68 A.D.), and judgment.

Protestants worship the same triune mangod who is in actuality the antichrist. No being whether real or imagined including Nero fits the detailed description of the antichrist as perfectly as this false counterfeit Jesus, who was and is yet to come but is not, that most christian denominations profess to believe in and worship.

A trinity that diddled a virgin to father himself in order to become fully human and fully God and say things no one understood, performed supernatural demonstrations of divine power, only to be tortured and crucified so that believers could eat his flesh and drink his blood every other sunday and high holiday because he loved the roman world so much.


yeah, right. I don't think so....

A couple of observations from reading your last few posts...

You don't have beliefs as much as you have arguments against the beliefs of others. Which is quite unusual and revealing. It's like you are on a mission. In fact, reading through this text chain I can't even see where you have even stated your beliefs.

I would have said you criticize what you don't believe to arrive at what you do believe without ever having to examine what you believe but I have no idea what you believe other than Christianity bad.

Lastly... from what I could tell about your beliefs is that you seem to think that Christianity is about getting into heaven or keeping out of hell. This tells me you have no clue what Christianity is about. Christianity is about the journey, not the destination. You are obsessed with heaven and hell.

The Trinity did not diddle a virgin. I find that as offensive as if you said you diddled my mother. Would you like it if I said I diddled your mother or wife? So I can only assume you say these things to be offensive; to get a reaction; to be a dick. Do you believe you are justified in doing this? If so, why?

pft.

Don't clam up now. Do you believe you are justified in what you are doing? If so, why?

I do exactly as God commands because I am keystone in the Yahad of God; the habitation of light.

Now is the time when the hidden purpose of God is revealed.

There is no one else in heaven, on the earth, or under the earth who can do what I am doing and have already done.

Thats why.

What did God command you to do?

My task is to bear witness to the truth.

Why do you perjure yourself in the name of God?

Let's stay on point here.

What is the truth that you are bearing witness too?

Can't you read ?

Yes, I can read. Can you show me what I was supposed to read to get the answer to What is the truth that you are bearing witness too?

Because it was not obvious to me.

If you are here to testify to the truth, then testify. Don't beat around the bush.

I have been speaking in plain language for a very long time. If you have failed to comprehend the written words its because you are dead, as I have already pointed out many times, as a consequence for your mortal sins.

How is it that you have allowed Satan to enter your mind to perpetuate lies?

Actually you haven't. You have intentionally been vague and misleading because you - like TNHarley - are here to play games. It's actually more like masturbation.

Here's the thing though, people like that do that because they want others to suffer like they suffer. Unfortunately, it's not possible for anyone to suffer as much as you guys suffer.

I dont suffer

Who are you trying to convince?

Dont believe me then lol. Like i care.

Of course you care, TN.

 

[hobelim]

Hobelim is not a literalist. Hobelim - like TN and Taz - are subversives. They condemn respect for people of faith - especially Christians.

I will never pay homage to the devil or any of his irrelevant possessions like you. I will never trade my love for God and truth for any lie especially the self indulgent maudlin delusion that binds you .

I will never trade my birthright as a rational living being for a lifetime supply of fairy tale porridge.

Deal with it, or, if you don't like it, fuck off.

 

[surada]

Hobelim is not a literalist. Hobelim - like TN and Taz - are subversives. They condemn respect for people of faith - especially Christians.

I will never pay homage to the devil or any of his irrelevant possessions like you. I will never trade my love for God and truth for any lie especially the self indulgent maudlin delusion that binds you .

I will never trade my birthright as a rational living being for a lifetime supply of fairy tale porridge.

Deal with it, or, if you don't like it, fuck off.

I don't understand your post at all. Are you a Christian that believes in the devil literally? What do you mean by fairy tales? The Bible is made up of many writings to include creation myths, letters and poetry.. The stories are basically morality tales with redemption as the ongoing theme.

 

[ding]

Hobelim is not a literalist. Hobelim - like TN and Taz - are subversives. They condemn respect for people of faith - especially Christians.

I will never pay homage to the devil or any of his irrelevant possessions like you. I will never trade my love for God and truth for any lie especially the self indulgent maudlin delusion that binds you .

I will never trade my birthright as a rational living being for a lifetime supply of fairy tale porridge.

Deal with it, or, if you don't like it, fuck off.

You're a liar is what you are. That's why you stopped answering my questions. You knew I was proving it. It's the same reason TN stopped answering my questions.

Of course you could try to prove me wrong.

What is the truth that you are bearing witness too?

 

[.oldschool]

What is the truth that you are bearing witness too

I do exactly as God commands because I am keystone in the Yahad of God; the habitation of light

Yaḥad | Encyclopedia.com

YAḤADYAḤAD (Heb. יַחַד; "union" or "unity"). This term is used in the Bible most often adverbially in the sense of "together." In some of the *Dead Sea Scrolls it appears as a designation of the group usually identified as the *Qumran sect or community. Source for information on Yaḥad...

www.encyclopedia.com

 

[hobelim]

I don't understand your post at all. Are you a Christian that believes in the devil literally? What do you mean by fairy tales? The Bible is made up of many writings to include creation myths, letters and poetry.. The stories are basically morality tales with redemption as the ongoing theme.

No I do not identify myself as a Christian of any sort and although I am compelled to address that which causes them to stumble in what they think and do I do so out of pity because I do believe they are sincere in their professed faith in Jesus who they have never seen and do not know.

As far as fairy tales, any story that starts with "In the beginning" just like "once upon a time" and then introduces a talking serpent is a fairy tale a children's story that conveys a teaching that is not directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used. Can I get a Duh?

So yes I believe that the Nachash, the mythological talking serpent in the bible, is an archetype that represents an actual creature on earth , a human degenerate low-life that tries to possess the minds of the gullible through brainwashing, mind control, what the ancients called the magical arts or sorcery, for personal gain, wealth, fame, admiration, easy street, by lobotomizing and fleecing their possessions.

There is a plague of talking serpents trying to get anyone they can to commit and support idolatry paying homage to the devil all over this message board and all over the world.

Every species of serpent uses the power of the death consequent to violating the divine commands to hogtie their prey.

What is so hard to see or understand? I am not speaking in riddles.

 

[surada]

I don't understand your post at all. Are you a Christian that believes in the devil literally? What do you mean by fairy tales? The Bible is made up of many writings to include creation myths, letters and poetry.. The stories are basically morality tales with redemption as the ongoing theme.

No I do not identify myself as a Christian of any sort and although I am compelled to address that which causes them to stumble in what they think and do I do so out of pity because I do believe they are sincere in their professed faith in Jesus who they have never seen and do not know.

As far as fairy tales, any story that starts with "In the beginning" just like "once upon a time" and then introduces a talking serpent is a fairy tale a children's story that conveys a teaching that is not directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used.

So yes I believe that the Nachash, the mythological talking serpent in the bible, is an archetype that represents an actual creature, a human degenerate low-life that tries to possess the minds of the gullible through mind control, what the ancients called the magical arts or sorcery, for personal gain.

There is a plague of talking serpents trying to get anyone they can to commit and support idolatry paying homage to the devil all over this message board.

What is so hard to see or understand? I am not speaking in riddles.

So you do take the Bible literally.

 

[hobelim]

I don't understand your post at all. Are you a Christian that believes in the devil literally? What do you mean by fairy tales? The Bible is made up of many writings to include creation myths, letters and poetry.. The stories are basically morality tales with redemption as the ongoing theme.

No I do not identify myself as a Christian of any sort and although I am compelled to address that which causes them to stumble in what they think and do I do so out of pity because I do believe they are sincere in their professed faith in Jesus who they have never seen and do not know.

As far as fairy tales, any story that starts with "In the beginning" just like "once upon a time" and then introduces a talking serpent is a fairy tale a children's story that conveys a teaching that is not directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used.

So yes I believe that the Nachash, the mythological talking serpent in the bible, is an archetype that represents an actual creature, a human degenerate low-life that tries to possess the minds of the gullible through mind control, what the ancients called the magical arts or sorcery, for personal gain.

There is a plague of talking serpents trying to get anyone they can to commit and support idolatry paying homage to the devil all over this message board.

What is so hard to see or understand? I am not speaking in riddles.

So you do take the Bible literally.

I really don't understand how you could read what I just wrote and then ask that question. It must suck being you.

Anyway, as soon as I read John 16:25 where Jesus says, "Till now I have been using figures of speech" I went back and re-read the entire Bible to learn that strange language of the prophets.

So no, I do not take the bible literally. One must learn to decipher the language of the prophets who use metaphors, analogies, similis, parables, homonyms, hyperbole, etc., to understand what the bible is literally about, actually teaching..

 

[surada]

I don't understand your post at all. Are you a Christian that believes in the devil literally? What do you mean by fairy tales? The Bible is made up of many writings to include creation myths, letters and poetry.. The stories are basically morality tales with redemption as the ongoing theme.

No I do not identify myself as a Christian of any sort and although I am compelled to address that which causes them to stumble in what they think and do I do so out of pity because I do believe they are sincere in their professed faith in Jesus who they have never seen and do not know.

As far as fairy tales, any story that starts with "In the beginning" just like "once upon a time" and then introduces a talking serpent is a fairy tale a children's story that conveys a teaching that is not directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used.

So yes I believe that the Nachash, the mythological talking serpent in the bible, is an archetype that represents an actual creature, a human degenerate low-life that tries to possess the minds of the gullible through mind control, what the ancients called the magical arts or sorcery, for personal gain.

There is a plague of talking serpents trying to get anyone they can to commit and support idolatry paying homage to the devil all over this message board.

What is so hard to see or understand? I am not speaking in riddles.

So you do take the Bible literally.

I really don't understand how you could read what I just wrote and then ask that question. It must suck being you.

Anyway, as soon as I read John 16:25 where Jesus says, "Till now I have been using figures of speech" I went back and re-read the entire Bible to learn that strange language of the prophets.

So no, I do not take the bible literally. One must learn to decipher the language of the prophets who use metaphors, analogies, similis, patables, homonyms, hyperbole, etc., to understand that the bible is literally about.

The texts have been redacted and amended many times and most prophecy is after the fact. Vaticinium ex eventu is a form of hindsight.. The Book of Daniel is set in ancient Babylon but was written around 168 BC around the time of Antiochus IV Epiphanes.

The two creation stories were combined during the time of King Omri.