The debate accomplished nothing.

[BasicHumanUnit]

The CNN poll said Biden won, by 60-28.

Really?

That is so "Out of Character" for CNN......hard to believe

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Has anyone else actually read the "Green New Deal"?

It's 90% talk of some mythical Utopia and history's longest running promise of government perfection (false hopes)
And 10% Demand to change to Socialism.

And YES....the proposals would cost in the tens of trillions.

It is a farce and a promise of Utopia in exchange for giving absolute power to a few.

There is no call to hold any nation other than the USA responsible for "saving the planet"

And almost no one takes it seriously. In reality, the old green deal has been going on since 1901. Teddy R started it but he didn't stay long enough as President to finish it. Eisenhower took up the mantle. Then Nixon took it up again. You will note, all 3 were Republicans. And each time, Industry kept screaming, "You are killing us" when in reality, Industry was killing US.

The New Green Deal is a wonderful thing to work towards that we may never reach in the next 100 to 200 years. But parts of it is actually part of the old Green Deal. And Biden pushes for the Green Deal, not the New Green Deal. So do I and so does the majority of Americans. If Rump is trying to get reelected on that platform, he'd better have his bags packed and the Uhaul in the driveway.

Never forget, it is industry which brought you your computer, on which you can complain about industry.

Industry also brought us air we couldn't breath, water we couldn't drink, food that poisoned us, cars that veered into Bridge Abutments without us assisting them at high speeds, and a whole lot of other things we can certainly live without. And Industry didn't invent the Computer, it was a bunch of geeks in garages that did.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Well...anyone who has bothered to pay attention, knows they’re both crazed warmongering bimbos.

Except Trump refuses to start new wars, which is why Mattis turned on him.

Stick to your meth and your weed, you're no good at this politics thing.

Maybe, but he’s doing his best to increase tensions with Russia, China, and Iran. His crazed sanctions have likely caused thousands of unnecessary deaths of poor people in those nations. His massive war budgets harm all Americans, except the ultra wealthy.

Actually I fully support Trump's kicking China's ass and making NATO nations pay their promised share.

Of course you do. You love war and empire. I get it. We can only hope nuclear extinction isn’t in our future.

Meh....I think you are protecting China. It wasn't me who tried to steal an entire Sea going against International Law, now was it?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Maybe, but he’s doing his best to increase tensions with Russia, China, and Iran. His crazed sanctions have likely caused thousands of unnecessary deaths of poor people in those nations. His massive war budgets harm all Americans, except the ultra wealthy. His support of Saudi genocide in Yemen is most unfortunate.

Idiocy.

That Obama was Iran's bitch boi destabilized the Middle East. ISIS rampaged and a dozen wars were spawned by Obama's massahs. Trump defeated ISIS and put Obama's Iranian allies back in their place, creating such peace that we now have THREE new peace agreements between MUSLIM nations and Israel.

Trump is the biggest motivator of peace in your lifetime, yet you spew this bullshit? You don't give a fuck about peace or lives.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Has anyone else actually read the "Green New Deal"?

It's 90% talk of some mythical Utopia and history's longest running promise of government perfection (false hopes)
And 10% Demand to change to Socialism.

And YES....the proposals would cost in the tens of trillions.

It is a farce and a promise of Utopia in exchange for giving absolute power to a few.

There is no call to hold any nation other than the USA responsible for "saving the planet"

And almost no one takes it seriously. In reality, the old green deal has been going on since 1901. Teddy R started it but he didn't stay long enough as President to finish it. Eisenhower took up the mantle. Then Nixon took it up again. You will note, all 3 were Republicans. And each time, Industry kept screaming, "You are killing us" when in reality, Industry was killing US.

The New Green Deal is a wonderful thing to work towards that we may never reach in the next 100 to 200 years. But parts of it is actually part of the old Green Deal. And Biden pushes for the Green Deal, not the New Green Deal. So do I and so does the majority of Americans. If Rump is trying to get reelected on that platform, he'd better have his bags packed and the Uhaul in the driveway.

Never forget, it is industry which brought you your computer, on which you can complain about industry.

Industry also brought us air we couldn't breath, water we couldn't drink, food that poisoned us, cars that veered into Bridge Abutments without us assisting them at high speeds, and a whole lot of other things we can certainly live without. And Industry didn't invent the Computer, it was a bunch of geeks in garages that did.

Ok, you really believe your crap?

Give up all your motor vehicles
Grow your own food
Use ZERO electricity generated by fossil fuels

When you've done ALL this, then you have a right to talk.....till then....hypocrite much ?

PS...The air here is just fine. Stop being a drama queen

 

[Uncensored2008]

Trump won over voters who want a President who is loud, rude and obnoxious.

Everyone else.....Not so much

Wait baboon boi, you're saying someone on stage last night was NOT loud, rude and obnoxious?

There is a logic riddle about a tribe that cannot under any circumstances EVER tell the truth. You are a member of that tribe, little feral one.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Well...anyone who has bothered to pay attention, knows they’re both crazed warmongering bimbos.

Except Trump refuses to start new wars, which is why Mattis turned on him.

Stick to your meth and your weed, you're no good at this politics thing.

Maybe, but he’s doing his best to increase tensions with Russia, China, and Iran. His crazed sanctions have likely caused thousands of unnecessary deaths of poor people in those nations. His massive war budgets harm all Americans, except the ultra wealthy. His support of Saudi genocide in Yemen is most unfortunate.

Uh....Do you have ANY CLUE how many Asian nations are ASKING the US for help against Imperialistic China?
Let me name just two....Philippines, Taiwan..off the top of my head. Gosh darn...those people want to be FREE....damn them !!!
wow

Are you Chinese?

 

[Uncensored2008]

I still see a MASSIVE silent majority.

Same as you did in 2018. It turns out the silent majority voted for Democrats. It will probably be the same this year, but more so. The violence of the Trump cult and the thuggish nature of the Trump admin makes people unwilling to say they support Democrats.

Making shit up is what your Marxists do.

I said nothing about a silent majority in 2018 - just the opposite. The Republican clowns fucked up big - but not as big as you Maoists have with your terrorist war on America.

Vote Biden..... His troops will come to YOUR neighborhood.

 

[Gdjjr]

Glad I didn't waste my time watching the clown show-

 

[Uncensored2008]

Industry also brought us air we couldn't breath, water we couldn't drink, food that poisoned us, cars that veered into Bridge Abutments without us assisting them at high speeds, and a whole lot of other things we can certainly live without. And Industry didn't invent the Computer, it was a bunch of geeks in garages that did.

Wow, do you ever feel like your going to explode, being THAT full of shit like you are?

HEY EVERYBODY, ENIAC was built in a garage! A mentally retarded Marxist on the internet said so...

 

[Moonglow]

I do notice you have nothing bad to say about Trump-no surprise keep on kissing dat azz...

and since you only look for people to speak badly of someone, what does that say about the non-value of your opinions?

This thread is not about me, those that lack anything to say also lack proper critiquing skills to use for both sides.

 

[BlueGin]

Probably the largest ideological difference between the 2 Presidential Candidates in my lifetime.

Anyone that doesn't already know which candidate they will support - probably should not be voting.

That’s hilarious. They are blood brothers from different mothers. Joe is more conservative than Don, so you guys win no matter what. The MIC and Deep State control both morons.

Biden supports Marxists...so no he is not “ more conservative”.

 

[Theowl32]

Joe Biden said, “I am the Democratic party right now”. He also said “Antifa is just an idea”. Biden did not say that left-wing Antifa is the Democratic party right now, but he indicated that Antifa’s ideas and methods are acceptable going forward. Biden spent more time trying to link Trump to right wing groups than condemning politically motivated violence in cities. It is doubtful that any minds were changed by that debate.

Oddly, Biden cited the FBI as proof that Antifa is just an idea. The Same FBI that is under investigation along with the Department of Justice right now for using Russian intelligence propaganda to try to take Trump down in the first election. Chris Wallace, the moderator, was apparently unaware of the Durham Probe so he did not press Biden on it. Wallace seemed more concerned with warning Trump not to interrupt while Biden was calling a Trump a “clown” in interruptions.

Calling Antifa just an idea while cities burn with BLM riots apparently escaped Wallace as well. Most Americans are aware that fascism and Communism were just ideas before they wreaked havoc on the world. Someone should tell Wallace that every movement begins as an idea that is forced onto the scene with violence and destruction. Biden’s marching orders were obviously loaded with warnings not to offend leftist terrorism and Wallace let it slide.

Wallace was clearly unprepared for this debate and asked no tough questions. One issue raised by Trump was his elimination of the Individual Mandate, a forced requirement of government to punish people who do not take part in the Affordable Care Act. The Individual Mandate was government action to penalize Americans with fines for not purchasing a product offered by insurance companies. There were no government requirements requiring people to “not” purchase products like tobacco and alcohol that destroy the health of individuals while the industries that produce the dangerous products lobby Congress excessively.

Wallace did not bring up the fact that Congress crafted special exemptions and subsidies for itself to escape the Individual Mandate that the majority of Americans cannot use. Biden accused Trump of attacking something that was a failure from the start and most Americans know it.

The debate was a side show that accomplished little other than demonstrating the division of the nation over government control of the private lives of individuals. The next one should address that.

I think we learned some things after the debate.

We learned that Joe and his cronies will pack the court so that the partisan judges can legislate from the bench.

As for the rest, we kinda knew all that all ready.

We also learned that moderators continue to be partisan for democrats and should expect more to come, even if they are from Fox news

Fox News has conservative voices along with compromised blackmailed loser marxist puppets like Wallace.

That makes them far right, cause they allow conservatives on there at all.

See the logic of the left? Then again cannot really hold that against them. Cause as much as they despise us and as many conservatives the marxists have killed around the world throughout history, and as much as they want us put down and are actually accomplishing it every day inch by inch, is as much as I hate them and want them eradicated for their wicked treachery, their loud and proud godlessness, and their utter fucking hypocrisy.

I say the sooner Armageddon begins the sooner they are to being tossed into eternal hell.

 

[Maxdeath]

Biden actually showed that he has no real ideas or way forward. He kept calling Trump wrong but never set out anything that showed he had any ideas be them wrong or right.
He refused to firmly answer direct questions, as in do you plan to pack the court.

When Biden Tried, Rump would go into his disruption. I think for the next Debate, both parties need to be wearing shock colors with padlocks with the button for both of them in the hands of a Prison Warden.

Biden didn’t try to explain anything. But he did refuse to answer, he did pretend he didn’t say or didn’t post things and he certainly did weave around things. Claimed he is not for the new green deal but he had it as part of his published platforms. Refused to answer if he planned to pack the court. Acted like Trump was lying when it was brought up that he called Trump xenophobic and when Trump brought up that Fauci talked about no need for masks.

The simple fact that you pretend to have a clue as how to spell the presidents name shows a lot. Even though the last idiot in the White House was the worst president in our history I still referred to him by his given name. Because of the office not the so called man. Now that he is out of office I simply refer to him as 44.

 

[gipper]

Probably the largest ideological difference between the 2 Presidential Candidates in my lifetime.

Anyone that doesn't already know which candidate they will support - probably should not be voting.

That’s hilarious. They are blood brothers from different mothers. Joe is more conservative than Don, so you guys win no matter what. The MIC and Deep State control both morons.

Biden supports Marxists...so no he is not “ more conservative”.

Fox News watcher!

 

[22lcidw]

Well...anyone who has bothered to pay attention, knows they’re both crazed warmongering bimbos.

Except Trump refuses to start new wars, which is why Mattis turned on him.

Stick to your meth and your weed, you're no good at this politics thing.

Maybe, but he’s doing his best to increase tensions with Russia, China, and Iran. His crazed sanctions have likely caused thousands of unnecessary deaths of poor people in those nations. His massive war budgets harm all Americans, except the ultra wealthy.

Actually I fully support Trump's kicking China's ass and making NATO nations pay their promised share.

Of course you do. You love war and empire. I get it. We can only hope nuclear extinction isn’t in our future.

The Empire is here. And China released that virus. Will our standard of living continue to drop in real terms if China becomes much more of a world player? What we have is from conquest. And we in America live better then most, although some are not as fortunate in our own nation. Look at the regional bashing we do. People on these forums saying that the blue areas are so much wealthier then the red as examples. You did nothing. You were born into it. The people in the military that are dead and buried in cemeteries gave you that opportunity. The people who expanded from coast to coast through hardship built America. And with the industrial age came the massive infrastructure built by immigrants and those born here. We live a much softer life. And it has driven us crazy.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Glad I didn't waste my time watching the clown show-

It was FAR more entertaining than any pathetic football game.

 

[gipper]

Maybe, but he’s doing his best to increase tensions with Russia, China, and Iran. His crazed sanctions have likely caused thousands of unnecessary deaths of poor people in those nations. His massive war budgets harm all Americans, except the ultra wealthy. His support of Saudi genocide in Yemen is most unfortunate.

Idiocy.

That Obama was Iran's bitch boi destabilized the Middle East. ISIS rampaged and a dozen wars were spawned by Obama's massahs. Trump defeated ISIS and put Obama's Iranian allies back in their place, creating such peace that we now have THREE new peace agreements between MUSLIM nations and Israel.

Trump is the biggest motivator of peace in your lifetime, yet you spew this bullshit? You don't give a fuck about peace or lives.

Uninformed

 

[Uncensored2008]

Probably the largest ideological difference between the 2 Presidential Candidates in my lifetime.

Anyone that doesn't already know which candidate they will support - probably should not be voting.

That’s hilarious. They are blood brothers from different mothers. Joe is more conservative than Don, so you guys win no matter what. The MIC and Deep State control both morons.

Biden supports Marxists...so no he is not “ more conservative”.

Fox News watcher!

Meth head!

 

[BlueGin]

People had their mind made up prior to the debate.

Last night changed nothing other than the once proud respect for the election process

Well...anyone who has bothered to pay attention, knows they’re both crazed warmongering bimbos.

Trump wants to bring the troops home. So nope.