The debate accomplished nothing.

Ray9

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Joe Biden said, “I am the Democratic party right now”. He also said “Antifa is just an idea”. Biden did not say that left-wing Antifa is the Democratic party right now, but he indicated that Antifa’s ideas and methods are acceptable going forward. Biden spent more time trying to link Trump to right wing groups than condemning politically motivated violence in cities. It is doubtful that any minds were changed by that debate.

Oddly, Biden cited the FBI as proof that Antifa is just an idea. The Same FBI that is under investigation along with the Department of Justice right now for using Russian intelligence propaganda to try to take Trump down in the first election. Chris Wallace, the moderator, was apparently unaware of the Durham Probe so he did not press Biden on it. Wallace seemed more concerned with warning Trump not to interrupt while Biden was calling a Trump a “clown” in interruptions.

Calling Antifa just an idea while cities burn with BLM riots apparently escaped Wallace as well. Most Americans are aware that fascism and Communism were just ideas before they wreaked havoc on the world. Someone should tell Wallace that every movement begins as an idea that is forced onto the scene with violence and destruction. Biden’s marching orders were obviously loaded with warnings not to offend leftist terrorism and Wallace let it slide.

Wallace was clearly unprepared for this debate and asked no tough questions. One issue raised by Trump was his elimination of the Individual Mandate, a forced requirement of government to punish people who do not take part in the Affordable Care Act. The Individual Mandate was government action to penalize Americans with fines for not purchasing a product offered by insurance companies. There were no government requirements requiring people to “not” purchase products like tobacco and alcohol that destroy the health of individuals while the industries that produce the dangerous products lobby Congress excessively.

Wallace did not bring up the fact that Congress crafted special exemptions and subsidies for itself to escape the Individual Mandate that the majority of Americans cannot use. Biden accused Trump of attacking something that was a failure from the start and most Americans know it.

The debate was a side show that accomplished little other than demonstrating the division of the nation over government control of the private lives of individuals. The next one should address that.
 
Wallace and Biden both misquoted Wray, who clarified that antifa is real.
FBI director clarifies: Antifa 'is not a fiction'
 
Probably the largest ideological difference between the 2 Presidential Candidates in my lifetime.

Anyone that doesn't already know which candidate they will support - probably should not be voting.
That’s hilarious. They are blood brothers from different mothers. Joe is more conservative than Don, so you guys win no matter what. The MIC and Deep State control both morons.
 
Probably the largest ideological difference between the 2 Presidential Candidates in my lifetime.

Anyone that doesn't already know which candidate they will support - probably should not be voting.
That’s hilarious. They are blood brothers from different mothers. Joe is more conservative than Don, so you guys win no matter what. The MIC and Deep State control both morons.
Control you too.
 
We are divided and apparently we are going to stay that way.
our leadership is doing nothing to change it. as long as that is where we are, that is where we will stay as a country.
 
Joe Biden said, “I am the Democratic party right now”. He also said “Antifa is just an idea”. Biden did not say that left-wing Antifa is the Democratic party right now, but he indicated that Antifa’s ideas and methods are acceptable going forward. Biden spent more time trying to link Trump to right wing groups than condemning politically motivated violence in cities. It is doubtful that any minds were changed by that debate.

Oddly, Biden cited the FBI as proof that Antifa is just an idea. The Same FBI that is under investigation along with the Department of Justice right now for using Russian intelligence propaganda to try to take Trump down in the first election. Chris Wallace, the moderator, was apparently unaware of the Durham Probe so he did not press Biden on it. Wallace seemed more concerned with warning Trump not to interrupt while Biden was calling a Trump a “clown” in interruptions.

Calling Antifa just an idea while cities burn with BLM riots apparently escaped Wallace as well. Most Americans are aware that fascism and Communism were just ideas before they wreaked havoc on the world. Someone should tell Wallace that every movement begins as an idea that is forced onto the scene with violence and destruction. Biden’s marching orders were obviously loaded with warnings not to offend leftist terrorism and Wallace let it slide.

Wallace was clearly unprepared for this debate and asked no tough questions. One issue raised by Trump was his elimination of the Individual Mandate, a forced requirement of government to punish people who do not take part in the Affordable Care Act. The Individual Mandate was government action to penalize Americans with fines for not purchasing a product offered by insurance companies. There were no government requirements requiring people to “not” purchase products like tobacco and alcohol that destroy the health of individuals while the industries that produce the dangerous products lobby Congress excessively.

Wallace did not bring up the fact that Congress crafted special exemptions and subsidies for itself to escape the Individual Mandate that the majority of Americans cannot use. Biden accused Trump of attacking something that was a failure from the start and most Americans know it.

The debate was a side show that accomplished little other than demonstrating the division of the nation over government control of the private lives of individuals. The next one should address that.

Wallace did not bring up the fact that Congress crafted special exemptions and subsidies for itself to escape the Individual Mandate that the majority of Americans cannot use.

That's because it never happened:


 
Probably the largest ideological difference between the 2 Presidential Candidates in my lifetime.

Anyone that doesn't already know which candidate they will support - probably should not be voting.
That’s hilarious. They are blood brothers from different mothers. Joe is more conservative than Don, so you guys win no matter what. The MIC and Deep State control both morons.
Control you too.
No, but they do you.
 
I do notice you have nothing bad to say about Trump-no surprise keep on kissing dat azz...

I notice Trump bashers have nothing good to say about Biden unless it is tied to something bad about Trump. Biden cannot stand on his own.
bidens biggest accomplishments were that he didn't come off as a total rambling fool like "edited" videos of him make him look at times. but he still had to stumble over "facts and figures" and got them wrong. a lot.

but when he did the "look into the camera" appeal to "the public" he looked far more like he was selling me a used car.
 
Joe Biden said, “I am the Democratic party right now”. He also said “Antifa is just an idea”. Biden did not say that left-wing Antifa is the Democratic party right now, but he indicated that Antifa’s ideas and methods are acceptable going forward. Biden spent more time trying to link Trump to right wing groups than condemning politically motivated violence in cities. It is doubtful that any minds were changed by that debate.

Oddly, Biden cited the FBI as proof that Antifa is just an idea. The Same FBI that is under investigation along with the Department of Justice right now for using Russian intelligence propaganda to try to take Trump down in the first election. Chris Wallace, the moderator, was apparently unaware of the Durham Probe so he did not press Biden on it. Wallace seemed more concerned with warning Trump not to interrupt while Biden was calling a Trump a “clown” in interruptions.

Calling Antifa just an idea while cities burn with BLM riots apparently escaped Wallace as well. Most Americans are aware that fascism and Communism were just ideas before they wreaked havoc on the world. Someone should tell Wallace that every movement begins as an idea that is forced onto the scene with violence and destruction. Biden’s marching orders were obviously loaded with warnings not to offend leftist terrorism and Wallace let it slide.

Wallace was clearly unprepared for this debate and asked no tough questions. One issue raised by Trump was his elimination of the Individual Mandate, a forced requirement of government to punish people who do not take part in the Affordable Care Act. The Individual Mandate was government action to penalize Americans with fines for not purchasing a product offered by insurance companies. There were no government requirements requiring people to “not” purchase products like tobacco and alcohol that destroy the health of individuals while the industries that produce the dangerous products lobby Congress excessively.

Wallace did not bring up the fact that Congress crafted special exemptions and subsidies for itself to escape the Individual Mandate that the majority of Americans cannot use. Biden accused Trump of attacking something that was a failure from the start and most Americans know it.

The debate was a side show that accomplished little other than demonstrating the division of the nation over government control of the private lives of individuals. The next one should address that.
I think we learned some things after the debate.

We learned that Joe and his cronies will pack the court so that the partisan judges can legislate from the bench.

As for the rest, we kinda knew all that all ready.

We also learned that moderators continue to be partisan for democrats and should expect more to come, even if they are from Fox news
 
I do notice you have nothing bad to say about Trump-no surprise keep on kissing dat azz...
There are people stirring others to riot in this nation. And they need to be dealt with. There is also a foreign issue with globalism and/or competition with China and Russia. Economically with East Asia/China and militarily with China/Russia. We will not remain number one for long. And all of this will be for naught when each of us has a lot less.
 
People had their mind made up prior to the debate.

Last night changed nothing other than the once proud respect for the election process
 
The CNN poll said Biden won, by 60-28.

Biden appealed to the middle, and made small gains with the middle.

Trump appealed to his rabid base, and lost a little ground in the middle.

What the debate accomplished was helping Biden, along with demonstrating how Wallace was the worst debate moderator in history.

If the debate had even been close, the Trump cultists would be making endless threads about Trump's glorious victory, the one they had spent months predicting. Instead, they're now making threads about how the debate didn't matter. That indicates they understand how poorly Trump did.
 

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