The debate accomplished nothing.

Probably the largest ideological difference between the 2 Presidential Candidates in my lifetime.

Anyone that doesn't already know which candidate they will support - probably should not be voting.
That’s hilarious. They are blood brothers from different mothers. Joe is more conservative than Don, so you guys win no matter what. The MIC and Deep State control both morons.
Biden supports Marxists...so no he is not “ more conservative”.
Fox News watcher!
I don’t watch FOX. Or CNN or MSNBC.
 
I wouldn't say that the debate accomplished nothing. We got this out of it. Now we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the IMPOTUS supports white supremacists, those "fine people." We can extrapolate from this that his cult does, as well.

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The debate didn't move the needle with the so-called "undecideds", but it certainly fired up Trump's supporters and alienated part of Biden's base. Which was Trump's strategy.
 
I wouldn't say that the debate accomplished nothing. We got this out of it. Now we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the IMPOTUS supports white supremacists, those "fine people." We can extrapolate from this that his cult does, as well.

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The Proud Boys have black and Hispanic members. They are not “White Supremicists”. Good know Demi rats support Marxists though..
 
The debate didn't move the needle with the so-called "undecideds", but it certainly fired up Trump's supporters and alienated part of Biden's base. Which was Trump's strategy.
Trump made him own and denounce several far left positions. Which was good.
 
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Joe Biden said, “I am the Democratic party right now”. He also said “Antifa is just an idea”. Biden did not say that left-wing Antifa is the Democratic party right now, but he indicated that Antifa’s ideas and methods are acceptable going forward. Biden spent more time trying to link Trump to right wing groups than condemning politically motivated violence in cities. It is doubtful that any minds were changed by that debate.

Oddly, Biden cited the FBI as proof that Antifa is just an idea. The Same FBI that is under investigation along with the Department of Justice right now for using Russian intelligence propaganda to try to take Trump down in the first election. Chris Wallace, the moderator, was apparently unaware of the Durham Probe so he did not press Biden on it. Wallace seemed more concerned with warning Trump not to interrupt while Biden was calling a Trump a “clown” in interruptions.

Calling Antifa just an idea while cities burn with BLM riots apparently escaped Wallace as well. Most Americans are aware that fascism and Communism were just ideas before they wreaked havoc on the world. Someone should tell Wallace that every movement begins as an idea that is forced onto the scene with violence and destruction. Biden’s marching orders were obviously loaded with warnings not to offend leftist terrorism and Wallace let it slide.

Wallace was clearly unprepared for this debate and asked no tough questions. One issue raised by Trump was his elimination of the Individual Mandate, a forced requirement of government to punish people who do not take part in the Affordable Care Act. The Individual Mandate was government action to penalize Americans with fines for not purchasing a product offered by insurance companies. There were no government requirements requiring people to “not” purchase products like tobacco and alcohol that destroy the health of individuals while the industries that produce the dangerous products lobby Congress excessively.

Wallace did not bring up the fact that Congress crafted special exemptions and subsidies for itself to escape the Individual Mandate that the majority of Americans cannot use. Biden accused Trump of attacking something that was a failure from the start and most Americans know it.

The debate was a side show that accomplished little other than demonstrating the division of the nation over government control of the private lives of individuals. The next one should address that.



It accomplished something, countless Americans and I have become even more disgusted with trump.

trump make the debate last night into a total mess.

trump is very scared and it showed last night.
 
The Proud Boys have black and Hispanic members. They are not “White Supremicists”. Good know Demi rats support Marxists though..

Thanks. It's always good to know who supports racism, white supremacy, violence, and far-right "ideals." Good job.
 
Has anyone else actually read the "Green New Deal"?

It's 90% talk of some mythical Utopia and history's longest running promise of government perfection (false hopes)
And 10% Demand to change to Socialism.

And YES....the proposals would cost in the tens of trillions.

It is a farce and a promise of Utopia in exchange for giving absolute power to a few.

There is no call to hold any nation other than the USA responsible for "saving the planet"

And almost no one takes it seriously. In reality, the old green deal has been going on since 1901. Teddy R started it but he didn't stay long enough as President to finish it. Eisenhower took up the mantle. Then Nixon took it up again. You will note, all 3 were Republicans. And each time, Industry kept screaming, "You are killing us" when in reality, Industry was killing US.

The New Green Deal is a wonderful thing to work towards that we may never reach in the next 100 to 200 years. But parts of it is actually part of the old Green Deal. And Biden pushes for the Green Deal, not the New Green Deal. So do I and so does the majority of Americans. If Rump is trying to get reelected on that platform, he'd better have his bags packed and the Uhaul in the driveway.

Never forget, it is industry which brought you your computer, on which you can complain about industry.

Industry also brought us air we couldn't breath, water we couldn't drink, food that poisoned us, cars that veered into Bridge Abutments without us assisting them at high speeds, and a whole lot of other things we can certainly live without. And Industry didn't invent the Computer, it was a bunch of geeks in garages that did.


Industry didn't invent the computer. A British mathematician between 1833 and 1871.

The person who invented the contemporary computer was Turing in 1936. I don't think there were garages then either. He invented it at Cambridge University.

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I don't know if you were alive at the time but what was one of the most driving forces for the EPA and environmental regulations was The Cuyahoga River was on fire. A body of water was so polluted it was catching fire. The American people had enough of big business poisoning our planet.
 
If you did not like Trump before the debate, you did not like him after the debate. The same for Biden. The needle did not move in either direction on the likeability factor. You will have to vote for one of them. Or you can choose not to vote. Trump's base is solid. Biden is walking a dangerous line among undecideds that see street violence as a non starter. Trump has a slight advantage in that he will not lose his base. Biden's base needs the left and that comes with a severe liability that could self-destruct at any moment.

 
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I do notice you have nothing bad to say about Trump-no surprise keep on kissing dat azz...

I notice Trump bashers have nothing good to say about Biden unless it is tied to something bad about Trump. Biden cannot stand on his own.
bidens biggest accomplishments were that he didn't come off as a total rambling fool like "edited" videos of him make him look at times. but he still had to stumble over "facts and figures" and got them wrong. a lot.

but when he did the "look into the camera" appeal to "the public" he looked far more like he was selling me a used car.

Of course he didn't. The man was wearing a wire. If you can, get on Tick Tock and see for yourself. Someone was telling that POS what to say. Good Lord.
 

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