The ‘dark side’ of capitalism

[francoHFW]

Capitalism is savage unless well regulated and fair. Then it's socialism, cold war dinosaur dingbats.

So you support Marxism?

Sound to me like he supports not being fucked over by big business because there is no one to tell them they cannot **** people over. If being able to expect fairness from the faceless corporations we all do business with is socialism then we need more of that.

Nope he supports a free ride for himself and everyone else.

That's just a stupid insult, Pubtroll. What happened to calling me a *******" lol

What do you want to be called franco prick?

This Nation will not in your Lifetime be "Socialist"

It already is- just an unfair, pander to the mega rich, Pub horror...try and remain calm.

 

[occupied]

Sound to me like he supports not being fucked over by big business because there is no one to tell them they cannot **** people over. If being able to expect fairness from the faceless corporations we all do business with is socialism then we need more of that.

Nope he supports a free ride for himself and everyone else.

That's just a stupid insult, Pubtroll. What happened to calling me a *******" lol

What do you want to be called franco prick?

This Nation will not in your Lifetime be "Socialist"

It already is according to libertarians but then they also think the world is flat and that bigfoot exists.

Lol, coming from an global cooling, global warming, or climate change, freak.

I cannot remember the last time I even commented on a climate thread or had much to say about it. Pretty lazy effort for a freak.

 

[bripat9643]

Fact......

Marxism-Socialism-Communism........they are all just stages in the evolution of the Left.

They ALL must be enforced at the point of a gun in the end.

Yes, guns are good for keeping people in line, there is no human society that ever existed without cops of some kind, libertarian dream land is no different.

Actually, there have been plenty. Did the American Indians have cops? Did cops exist in Europe during the Middle Ages?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

To liberals, ALL sides of capitalism are dark.

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism is not marxism, for 80 years now. I know it's damn hard to hear the truth in the US about it...Socialism is DEMOCRATIC. Communism is not. Fascism is RW, with corporations and capitalism. The terms "National Socialism and USSR is called PROPAGANDA, dingbat dupes.

God you are stupid.

In Marxist theory, socialism (also called lower-stage communism or the socialist mode of production) refers to a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that supersede capitalism in the schema of historical materialism. Socialism is defined as a mode of production where the sole criterion for production is use-value and therefore the law of value no longer directs economic activity.Production for use is coordinated through consciouseconomic planning, while distribution of economic output is based on the principle of To each according to his contribution. The social relations of socialism are characterized by the working-class effectively owning themeans of production and the means of their livelihood, either through cooperative enterprises or by public ownership and self management, so that the social surplus accrues to the working class and society as a whole.[1]

I don't give a shytte what Marxist Doctrine says- it's totally discredited except among communists and cold war dinosaurs. Socialism is well regulated,fair capitalism- see Scandinavia, and all modern countries including US, but ours is still run by greedy idiot Pubs and hater dupes. See trickle down tax rates and policies.

Mr Fucktard, sir

Under socialism , all the means of production are owned by the state and economic planning is done centrally. That does not work - look at Cuba, the former USSR. How the **** are low life motherfucking bureaucrats going to determine how many vehicles will be needed in the year 2015., TV's? Condoms?

Shut the **** up.


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That is COMMUNISM, stupid.

"We're all socialists now!" PM of Finland when O-Care was passed.

Obama Hellcare is fascist.


Hellcare will be provided by a privately owned company which will be heavily regulated by the government.

.

ACA is socialist, well regulated, fair, intelligent, transparent capitalism. Hater dupes! It's the Pub Plan they always said they wanted, the lying scumbags...

 

[Contumacious]

God you are stupid.

In Marxist theory, socialism (also called lower-stage communism or the socialist mode of production) refers to a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that supersede capitalism in the schema of historical materialism. Socialism is defined as a mode of production where the sole criterion for production is use-value and therefore the law of value no longer directs economic activity.Production for use is coordinated through consciouseconomic planning, while distribution of economic output is based on the principle of To each according to his contribution. The social relations of socialism are characterized by the working-class effectively owning themeans of production and the means of their livelihood, either through cooperative enterprises or by public ownership and self management, so that the social surplus accrues to the working class and society as a whole.[1]

I don't give a shytte what Marxist Doctrine says- it's totally discredited except among communists and cold war dinosaurs. Socialism is well regulated,fair capitalism- see Scandinavia, and all modern countries including US, but ours is still run by greedy idiot Pubs and hater dupes. See trickle down tax rates and policies.

Mr Fucktard, sir

Under socialism , all the means of production are owned by the state and economic planning is done centrally. That does not work - look at Cuba, the former USSR. How the **** are low life motherfucking bureaucrats going to determine how many vehicles will be needed in the year 2015., TV's? Condoms?

Shut the **** up.


.

That is COMMUNISM, stupid.

"We're all socialists now!" PM of Finland when O-Care was passed.

Obama Hellcare is fascist.


Hellcare will be provided by a privately owned company which will be heavily regulated by the government.

.

ACA is socialist, well regulated, fair, intelligent, transparent capitalism. Hater dupes! It's the Pub Plan they always said they wanted, the lying scumbags...

You are an ignorass.

. If Obama Hellcare is socialized then it is not regulated.

If it it socialized then then it is not Capitalistic.

Why don't you start a thread about basketweaving or something simple like that?

.

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism is not marxism, for 80 years now. I know it's damn hard to hear the truth in the US about it...Socialism is DEMOCRATIC. Communism is not. Fascism is RW, with corporations and capitalism. The terms "National Socialism and USSR is called PROPAGANDA, dingbat dupes.

God you are stupid.

In Marxist theory, socialism (also called lower-stage communism or the socialist mode of production) refers to a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that supersede capitalism in the schema of historical materialism. Socialism is defined as a mode of production where the sole criterion for production is use-value and therefore the law of value no longer directs economic activity.Production for use is coordinated through consciouseconomic planning, while distribution of economic output is based on the principle of To each according to his contribution. The social relations of socialism are characterized by the working-class effectively owning themeans of production and the means of their livelihood, either through cooperative enterprises or by public ownership and self management, so that the social surplus accrues to the working class and society as a whole.[1]

I don't give a shytte what Marxist Doctrine says- it's totally discredited except among communists and cold war dinosaurs. Socialism is well regulated,fair capitalism- see Scandinavia, and all modern countries including US, but ours is still run by greedy idiot Pubs and hater dupes. See trickle down tax rates and policies.

You are an idiot franco,go play with the little kids.

What, no more irrelevant waddle from the Cold War dinosaur playbook? Breaking- We won.

Socialism is not marxism, for 80 years now. I know it's damn hard to hear the truth in the US about it...Socialism is DEMOCRATIC. Communism is not. Fascism is RW, with corporations and capitalism. The terms "National Socialism and USSR is called PROPAGANDA, dingbat dupes.

God you are stupid.

In Marxist theory, socialism (also called lower-stage communism or the socialist mode of production) refers to a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that supersede capitalism in the schema of historical materialism. Socialism is defined as a mode of production where the sole criterion for production is use-value and therefore the law of value no longer directs economic activity.Production for use is coordinated through consciouseconomic planning, while distribution of economic output is based on the principle of To each according to his contribution. The social relations of socialism are characterized by the working-class effectively owning themeans of production and the means of their livelihood, either through cooperative enterprises or by public ownership and self management, so that the social surplus accrues to the working class and society as a whole.[1]

I don't give a shytte what Marxist Doctrine says- it's totally discredited except among communists and cold war dinosaurs. Socialism is well regulated,fair capitalism- see Scandinavia, and all modern countries including US, but ours is still run by greedy idiot Pubs and hater dupes. See trickle down tax rates and policies.

You are an idiot franco,go play with the little kids.

What, no more irrelevant waddle from the Cold War dinosaur playbook? Breaking- We won.

You will not win in your Lifetime.....there are too many of me.

No, WE won. The USA. Jeebus, cold war dinosaur dupe.

Their is no socialism communism evolution- Marx was discredited. Communism has never come in without violent revolution, and needs violence to survive. He was right in one thing, socialism as it's NOW defined is the highest and final form of gov't. Fair capitalism.

 

[occupied]

To liberals, ALL sides of capitalism are dark.

Not true, just the parts that operate more like a crime syndicate than a legitimate business.

 

[francoHFW]

I don't give a shytte what Marxist Doctrine says- it's totally discredited except among communists and cold war dinosaurs. Socialism is well regulated,fair capitalism- see Scandinavia, and all modern countries including US, but ours is still run by greedy idiot Pubs and hater dupes. See trickle down tax rates and policies.

Mr Fucktard, sir

Under socialism , all the means of production are owned by the state and economic planning is done centrally. That does not work - look at Cuba, the former USSR. How the **** are low life motherfucking bureaucrats going to determine how many vehicles will be needed in the year 2015., TV's? Condoms?

Shut the **** up.


.

That is COMMUNISM, stupid.

"We're all socialists now!" PM of Finland when O-Care was passed.

Obama Hellcare is fascist.


Hellcare will be provided by a privately owned company which will be heavily regulated by the government.

.

ACA is socialist, well regulated, fair, intelligent, transparent capitalism. Hater dupes! It's the Pub Plan they always said they wanted, the lying scumbags...

You are an ignorass.

. If Obama Hellcare is socialized then it is not regulated.

If it it socialized then then it is not Capitalistic.

Why don't you start a thread about basketweaving or something simple like that?

.

Back to class. Socialized MEANS well regulated, you're thinking of NATIONALIZED, taken over by the gov't- like the post office.

 

[occupied]

Mr Fucktard, sir

Under socialism , all the means of production are owned by the state and economic planning is done centrally. That does not work - look at Cuba, the former USSR. How the **** are low life motherfucking bureaucrats going to determine how many vehicles will be needed in the year 2015., TV's? Condoms?

Shut the **** up.


.

That is COMMUNISM, stupid.

"We're all socialists now!" PM of Finland when O-Care was passed.

Obama Hellcare is fascist.


Hellcare will be provided by a privately owned company which will be heavily regulated by the government.

.

ACA is socialist, well regulated, fair, intelligent, transparent capitalism. Hater dupes! It's the Pub Plan they always said they wanted, the lying scumbags...

You are an ignorass.

. If Obama Hellcare is socialized then it is not regulated.

If it it socialized then then it is not Capitalistic.

Why don't you start a thread about basketweaving or something simple like that?

.

Back to class. Socialized MEANS well regulated, you're thinking of NATIONALIZED, taken over by the gov't- like the post office.

They are thinking they hate everything you like, that's as deep as reactionary thought ever goes

 

[francoHFW]

Poor, brainwashed devils...

 

[regent]

We argue the merits of economic systems and I wonder if there are any nations on his planet that have a pure economic system? Most are now mixed, capitalism and socialism, with maybe some have a dash of fascism, and some a sprinkle of communism. It is probably the mixture and amount that we really are debating, or make believe economic systems?

 

[bripat9643]

We argue the merits of economic systems and I wonder if there are any nations on his planet that have a pure economic system? Most are now mixed, capitalism and socialism, with maybe some have a dash of fascism, and some a sprinkle of communism. It is probably the mixture and amount that we really are debating, or make believe economic systems?

That was so mature and profound . . . . . . NOT!

 

[bripat9643]

To liberals, ALL sides of capitalism are dark.

Freedom of choice and economic growth are both sinister to a libturd.

 

[bripat9643]

To liberals, ALL sides of capitalism are dark.

Not true, just the parts that operate more like a crime syndicate than a legitimate business.

That would be the government.

 

[JoeB131]

Interesting that when the Pope speaks out against abortion and birth control he is out of touch and irrelevant. But when he bashes the one system that has improved people's lives more than the church ever did he is held up like a hero.
Libs are hypocrites.

even a broken clock is right twice a day.

The reality is, the Pope's church represents the poor, so no surprise he's advocating for them.

 

[JoeB131]

So what's the alternative? Communism?

Why are those the only two choices on the menu?

 

[The Rabbi]

Interesting that when the Pope speaks out against abortion and birth control he is out of touch and irrelevant. But when he bashes the one system that has improved people's lives more than the church ever did he is held up like a hero.
Libs are hypocrites.

even a broken clock is right twice a day.

The reality is, the Pope's church represents the poor, so no surprise he's advocating for them.

Except it isnt, and he's not.
The Church represents Catholics. That includes rich ones, who have made the Church the wealthy org it is today.
The poor are made poorer by socialism, not richer. They are made richer by capitalism. The Pope doesnt seem to understand this. Neither do you.

 

[Rotagilla]

"Capitalism and communism stand at opposite poles. Their essential difference is this:

The communist, seeing the rich man and his fine home, says: 'No man should have so much.'

The capitalist, seeing the same thing, says: 'All men should have as much.' "
–Phelps Adams

 

[JoeB131]

Except it isnt, and he's not.
The Church represents Catholics. That includes rich ones, who have made the Church the wealthy org it is today.
The poor are made poorer by socialism, not richer. They are made richer by capitalism. The Pope doesnt seem to understand this. Neither do you.

Sorry, man, I've seen 30 years of the wonderful middle class my parents enjoyed vanishing while the 1%ers have more money than God.

Even the Pope is noticing.