The Constitutional Myths of the right

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Can you tell us what Republicans have done to protect Liberty?

they support limited govt while Democrats are now openly communist. Do you understand?

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Can you tell us what Republicans have done to protect Liberty?

they support limited govt while Democrats are now openly communist. Do you understand?

I will tell you what I understand. I wouldn't piss on a Democrat if they were burning in Hell fire. Chuck Schumer, Adam, Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, etc. make me want to vomit.

Having said that, after spending my entire adult life voting for Republicans and working in the Republican Party going back to Reagan, I can say with full knowledge that the Republican Party is as bad as the Democrats any day of the week.

Just on this immigration issue, the Republicans have spent far more than they claimed they could save us. They are now into the trillions of dollars and the best idea they can come up with is a wall? Adding insult to injury the Republicans, like they've always done, have taken more of our Liberties than the Democrats have even vowed to take.

The illegally ratified 14th and Amendment (which gave you so called "anchor babies") are the work of Republicans as is the so - called "Patriot Act." If you think the creation of the IRS and the income tax (another illegally ratified amendment) are about limited government, then we live in different worlds, The 16th Amendment is the work of the Republicans. The creation of the Dept. of Homeland (IN) Security - a half billion dollar + clusterphuck to get off the ground was another Republican idea. The all out assault on your Right to Privacy and the way many Americans are locked out of they system by the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify crap are Republican creations.

All of my life I've voted for the lesser of two evils, but no matter what, evil wins. The Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin. The Republicans wanted term limits (an idiotic idea) and the Democrats wanted to wage a war at the border. A decade and a half later, the Republicans are fighting the border war while Democrat Tom Steyer is on tv, trying to get Democrats to vote for him with term limits being one of his pet issues. It's been musical chairs for bad ideas for almost FOUR decades of my voting life. Reagan was a Dem who ran as a Republican as was Trump and they only proved two things:

Put lipstick on a pig and you still have a pig
A leopard cannot change its spots.

All the Democrats have to do to sell the public bad ideas is to change parties. On immigration, the Republicans are promising to fix an issue THEY created. It's hilarious. Or maybe it's sad since it is the death knell for the Republic.

 

[Gdjjr]

they support limited govt while Democrats are now openly communist. Do you understand?

I understand lip service is not taking action. Do you not understand that?

 

[Gdjjr]

All the Democrats have to do to sell the public bad ideas is to change parties. On immigration, the Republicans are promising to fix an issue THEY created. It's hilarious. Or maybe it's sad since it is the death knell for the Republic.

The Death Knell was dealt long, long ago- way before modern day problems which are nothing more than the results of the seeds of discord being sown.
Politicians, on BOTH sides are indeed two sides of the same coin. Statist- most are lawyers and/or have lawyers working in their staff- the SC is made up of former lawyers- lawyers are expert at twisting, spinning and castigating words to effect a direction- e.g. It's not a Fine, it's a Tax- brought to us by, a Republican- shit like that, suggests to me, a fundamental problem, as in basic education when brains are sponges- or, they're all drunks- I say that because no rationally, even semi-educated person can believe the crap they spew- it may be a combination of both and could explain why the booze industry isn't vilified like *illicit* substances- SMH-

 

[anynameyouwish]

A "living" Constitution is an invitation to rewrite how they please.

"A "living" Constitution is an invitation to rewrite how they please."

yup.

that's right.

every generation has a right to decide for themselves.....

our founding fathers were NOT tyrants who demanded that ALL citizens for ALL TIME to come MUST do what THEY COMMAND!


we have a right to amend, adjust, change, vary and alter as we see fit.

like; CHANGING the constitution to allow women and blacks equal rights.

 

[Gdjjr]

we have a right to amend, adjust, change, vary and alter as we see fit.

Through a process- amendments- that's not a law favoring one over another which is fundamental to the Bill of Rights AND THE reason we have re pre sentatives in DC- amendments were put in because they aren't fast or easy- though they can be faked, as Porter Rockwell has pointed out-

 

[Flash]

Liberals are as ignorant of the Constitution as they are ignorant of History, Economics, Climate Science, Ethics and Biology.

 

[westwall]

A "living" Constitution is an invitation to rewrite how they please.

"A "living" Constitution is an invitation to rewrite how they please."

yup.

that's right.

every generation has a right to decide for themselves.....

our founding fathers were NOT tyrants who demanded that ALL citizens for ALL TIME to come MUST do what THEY COMMAND!


we have a right to amend, adjust, change, vary and alter as we see fit.

like; CHANGING the constitution to allow women and blacks equal rights.

No, they don't. We are not a mob. The Founders were far smarter than you and made sure that it would be exceedingly difficult to violate the Rights of the individual through government fiat.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

A "living" Constitution is an invitation to rewrite how they please.

"A "living" Constitution is an invitation to rewrite how they please."

yup.

that's right.

every generation has a right to decide for themselves.....

our founding fathers were NOT tyrants who demanded that ALL citizens for ALL TIME to come MUST do what THEY COMMAND!


we have a right to amend, adjust, change, vary and alter as we see fit.

like; CHANGING the constitution to allow women and blacks equal rights.

I don't understand your post. Sorry. Just for accuracy:

1) We have inherent, natural, absolute, irrevocable, unalienable Rights that the earliest courts ruled (consistent with the founders / framers intent) to be preexisting and above the law. So, there is nothing - even a constitutional amendment can do to change those without destroying our form of government

2) Anything not related to unalienable Rights can be changed via an amendment.

“Nothing is unchangeable but the inherent and unalienable Rights of man.

...The natural progress of things is for Liberty to yield, and government to gain ground.

...Rightful Liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.” Thomas Jefferson

“Guard with jealous attention the public Liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined...The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.” Patrick Henry

 

[Gdjjr]

...The natural progress of things is for Liberty to yield, and government to gain ground.

Which is *a* why people must beat them at their own game- though that does require innovative thinking which doesn't seem to be an attribute many share- rules and laws will always be broken, one way or another- see the District of Criminals as evidence at its highest order.

Love the Jefferson quotes btw!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

we have a right to amend, adjust, change, vary and alter as we see fit.
.

not really, a communist or monarchist amendment would be unconstitutional. Our Founders provided only for change consistent with liberty! If you don't like liberty why not go to Cuba?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

they support limited govt while Democrats are now openly communist. Do you understand?

I understand lip service is not taking action. Do you not understand that?

cutting taxes and regulations, SCOTUS picks, generally supporting capitalism, family, law and order, military is huge action while Democrats are poised to implement treasonous Green New Deal Great Communist Depression. Make sense now??

 

[Gdjjr]

Make sense now??

No- pay to play is what BOTH sides subscribe to borrow to spend- we're living the results- we're in a quasi-capitalist (often referred to as Crony Capitalism) economy implemented by Nixon and he even said, I guess we're all Keynesian now- that is a top down, central planning economic theory developed by a British economist for the monarchy which the founders fought a war to get away from- regulations, in this day and time always favors one over another, legally, which is arguably the exact opposite of the intent- the founders despised the thought of a Standing Army which is THE reason they had only a Navy and part of the reason for the 2nd amendment- there are no caveats in the Bill of Rights declaring that National Security can over ride them- the 4th amendment has been eviscerated- because Bush Jr determined (LOL) our freedom and liberty was just a god damn piece of paper- and not even one Republican has done anything other than pay lip service to the many ills the District of Criminals has implemented-

A Powerful Government Equals a Weak Nation
It is supremely ironic that the United States has the most powerful government in history and, at the same time, the most frightened people in the world.

Many Americans are scared of everything. Russia. Iran. China. North Korea. Muslims. Saddam Hussein. Osama bin Laden. Al Qaeda. The terrorists. The drug dealers. The illegal immigrants. The communists. ISIS. Syria. Such Americans are convinced that every scary creature in the world is coming to get them.

 

[anynameyouwish]

Can you tell us what Republicans have done to protect Liberty?

they support limited govt while Democrats are now openly communist. Do you understand?

"they support limited govt while Democrats are now openly communist. Do you understand?"

limited government for BIG BUSINESS but a NANNY STATE for everyone else.

laws against pot are NOT limited or smaller government.

legal discrimination against gays or atheists or muslims is NOT limited or smaller goverment.

And SOME democrats may be a bit too far to the left but only a deranged nazi fascist would claim that ALL democrats are communists.

That is illogical.

you don't pass the logic test.


your right to vote has been terminated

 

[Gdjjr]

"they support limited govt while Democrats are now openly communist. Do you understand?"

LOL- no, they don't that's the point- they pay lip service to it then always vote to expand their authority and power-

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

limited government for BIG BUSINESS but a NANNY STATE for everyone else.

Republicans support capitalism for Big Business and all business which means for all Americans. NOW do you understand?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

legal discrimination against gays or atheists or muslims is NOT limited or smaller goverment.

a limited govt can have a many laws. You have confused anarchy with limited govt. Do you understand now???

 

[Gdjjr]

Republicans support capitalism for Big Business and all business which means for all Americans.

BOTH sides subscribe to our quasi Keynesian monetary policy financed with Fiat currency and you can thank, Republican Nixon-

 

[Gdjjr]

a limited govt can have a many laws.

Define limited.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

And SOME democrats may be a bit too far to the left but only a deranged nazi fascist would claim that ALL democrats are communists.

dear, about 50% of Dims support the far left libcommunists which is about double 10 years ago and we know full well in which direction they are moving.


Norman Thomas ( socialist presidential candidate)
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.