The best thing libertarians can do right now is support Republicans

[kaz]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

Libertarians are just republicans who are embarrassed to admit it anyway.

/Thread.

You think one moronic, ignorant comment ends the thread? LOL, of course you do, creep.

BTW, one Democrat after another has said that lame DNC talking point. You do ever come up with your own material or just keep parroting what other Democrats say?

LOL, just kidding, I know you only keep parroting what other Democrats say ...

You don't actually know what a libertarian is, do you? Be honest

It's true, and it invalidates your OP completely.

Well, no, it's not true. You're just equivocating. Libertarians are libertarians. Republicans are Republicans. Libertarians who vote Republican are just confused.

Real libertarians are about as common as Bigfoot and unicorns.

There's plenty of people who are, could be, would be, libertarians if they weren't hypnotized by the LO2E exploit. I've seen this, over and over again. When polled outside the context of an election we'd routinely see 15%-20% of eligible voters describe themselves as libertarian. On an issue by issue basis, they're right there with us. But when an election rolls around, most of them are frightened into voting for one of the majors. Kinda like what's going on with this thread.

If you aren't frightened by the things I pointed out in the OP, then you are either a socialist anarchist or completely clueless. Or both ...

Oh sure - it's all scary. But I'm not going to let fear interfere with reason. The dems have a similar list of equally scary facts about what Republicans want to do. Voting out of fear prompts us to make stupid decisions. Like voting Republican or Democrat when neither represents your values.

It's not "equal." Republicans are doing nothing like the breakdown that is happening in big blue cities across the country. And Trump is willing to spend another $1T, while the Dems want $3.5T. Trump wants the money to go to people who work, Democrats want the money to go to people who don't and to government.

To say it's the same is retarded

 

[Crepitus]

That was the basis of the tea party.

Not really. The tea party was mostly radical far right republicans protesting against taxes and any law they didn't personally agree with.

 

[kaz]

[

That was the basis of the tea party.

Not really. The tea party was mostly radical far right republicans protesting against taxes and any law they didn't personally agree with.

Like the rest of the creepy shit you post, you made that up.

Then you're the dumb ass who came into a thread I called on libertarians to vote Republican and said I was too embarrassed to admit I was a Republican.

Then there was your moronic claim there is no actual Libertarian Party because they get zero votes. Everyone votes Republican.

Stupid, creepy shit is all you have

 

[dblack]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

Libertarians are just republicans who are embarrassed to admit it anyway.

/Thread.

You think one moronic, ignorant comment ends the thread? LOL, of course you do, creep.

BTW, one Democrat after another has said that lame DNC talking point. You do ever come up with your own material or just keep parroting what other Democrats say?

LOL, just kidding, I know you only keep parroting what other Democrats say ...

You don't actually know what a libertarian is, do you? Be honest

It's true, and it invalidates your OP completely.

Well, no, it's not true. You're just equivocating. Libertarians are libertarians. Republicans are Republicans. Libertarians who vote Republican are just confused.

Real libertarians are about as common as Bigfoot and unicorns.

There's plenty of people who are, could be, would be, libertarians if they weren't hypnotized by the LO2E exploit. I've seen this, over and over again. When polled outside the context of an election we'd routinely see 15%-20% of eligible voters describe themselves as libertarian. On an issue by issue basis, they're right there with us. But when an election rolls around, most of them are frightened into voting for one of the majors. Kinda like what's going on with this thread.

If you aren't frightened by the things I pointed out in the OP, then you are either a socialist anarchist or completely clueless. Or both ...

Oh sure - it's all scary. But I'm not going to let fear interfere with reason. The dems have a similar list of equally scary facts about what Republicans want to do. Voting out of fear prompts us to make stupid decisions. Like voting Republican or Democrat when neither represents your values.

It's not "equal."

Well, there you go. That's where we disagree. Trump is nuts. At this point, I have no idea what he is capable of. But I've stopped doubting his ability, and will, to cause this country harm. He's every bit as scary as the socialists. The only real difference is they have a long term agenda. Trump's "agenda" is just him lashing out at people who piss him off.

 

[Crepitus]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

Libertarians are just republicans who are embarrassed to admit it anyway.

/Thread.

You think one moronic, ignorant comment ends the thread? LOL, of course you do, creep.

BTW, one Democrat after another has said that lame DNC talking point. You do ever come up with your own material or just keep parroting what other Democrats say?

LOL, just kidding, I know you only keep parroting what other Democrats say ...

You don't actually know what a libertarian is, do you? Be honest

It's true, and it invalidates your OP completely.

Well, no, it's not true. You're just equivocating. Libertarians are libertarians. Republicans are Republicans. Libertarians who vote Republican are just confused.

Real libertarians are about as common as Bigfoot and unicorns.

As long as you're going to explain things you know nothing about, how does string theory work?

I can't do the math, of course, but as I understand it string theory postulates elemental particles not as particles but as one dimensional objects called strings. At any scale above particle physics a string appears as a particle with it's mass, charge, and such being defined by the length and vibration or the string. The theory is mostly used to describe gravity and time, IIRC.

Anything else you're having trouble with?

 

[Crepitus]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

Libertarians are just republicans who are embarrassed to admit it anyway.

/Thread.

You think one moronic, ignorant comment ends the thread? LOL, of course you do, creep.

BTW, one Democrat after another has said that lame DNC talking point. You do ever come up with your own material or just keep parroting what other Democrats say?

LOL, just kidding, I know you only keep parroting what other Democrats say ...

You don't actually know what a libertarian is, do you? Be honest

It's true, and it invalidates your OP completely.

Well, no, it's not true. You're just equivocating. Libertarians are libertarians. Republicans are Republicans. Libertarians who vote Republican are just confused.

Real libertarians are about as common as Bigfoot and unicorns.

There's plenty of people who are, could be, would be, libertarians if they weren't hypnotized by the LO2E exploit. I've seen this, over and over again. When polled outside the context of an election we'd routinely see 15%-20% of eligible voters describe themselves as libertarian. On an issue by issue basis, they're right there with us. But when an election rolls around, most of them are frightened into voting for one of the majors. Kinda like what's going on with this thread.

If you aren't frightened by the things I pointed out in the OP, then you are either a socialist anarchist or completely clueless. Or both ...

Oh sure - it's all scary. But I'm not going to let fear interfere with reason. The dems have a similar list of equally scary facts about what Republicans want to do. Voting out of fear prompts us to make stupid decisions. Like voting Republican or Democrat when neither represents your values.

It's not "equal." Republicans are doing nothing like the breakdown that is happening in big blue cities across the country. And Trump is willing to spend another $1T, while the Dems want $3.5T. Trump wants the money to go to people who work, Democrats want the money to go to people who don't and to government.

To say it's the same is retarded

I'm afraid that the "breakdown" you are referring to almost exclusively exists in the right wing "media" and has only a passing resemblance to the actual reality.

 

[Dragonlady]

Libertarians always support Republicans

Some do, some don't. There are many libertarians in the Republican Party. But to make the blanket statement you did is moronic and ignorant. Your usual fare.

I advocate anyone with any libertarian leaning now support Republicans as long as Democrats are going of the kooky cliff with your Marxist revolution shit

Yeah everybody should vote for the Republican Party, because that's been working so well for the American PEOPLE over the past 40 years. I mean just look at their economic record:

• 3 major economic crashes in the past 40 years, each more economically devasting to working Americans, than the last;
• 80% of the income and wealth of the nation is now in the hands of the top 20% of the population;
• 40% of working Americans, holding full time jobs, are dependent on government handouts to supplement their wages;
• hourly workers have no government mandated vacation or sick time;
• fewer than 50% of the privately owned employers in the USA provide health insurance coverage to employees
• during each economic crash, the poorest Americans have been hit the hardest, and given the least assistance to get them through the crash

At present, the Republican Party, lead by Mitch McConnell was prepared to cut American workers off benefits to FORCE people back to non-existent jobs, in the middle of the worst plague that the world has seen since the Black Death.

And you want people to vote for more of this?

 

[Crepitus]

[

That was the basis of the tea party.

Not really. The tea party was mostly radical far right republicans protesting against taxes and any law they didn't personally agree with.

Like the rest of the creepy shit you post, you made that up.

Then you're the dumb ass who came into a thread I called on libertarians to vote Republican and said I was too embarrassed to admit I was a Republican.

Then there was your moronic claim there is no actual Libertarian Party because they get zero votes. Everyone votes Republican.

Stupid, creepy shit is all you have

Lol, and you accuse me of lacking content for my post?

Hypocrisy is real.

 

[Oddball]

Libertarians always support Republicans

Some do, some don't. There are many libertarians in the Republican Party. But to make the blanket statement you did is moronic and ignorant. Your usual fare.

I advocate anyone with any libertarian leaning now support Republicans as long as Democrats are going of the kooky cliff with your Marxist revolution shit

Yeah everybody should vote for the Republican Party, because that's been working so well for the American PEOPLE over the past 40 years. I mean just look at their economic record:

• 3 major economic crashes in the past 40 years, each more economically devasting to working Americans, than the last;
• 80% of the income and wealth of the nation is now in the hands of the top 20% of the population;
• 40% of working Americans, holding full time jobs, are dependent on government handouts to supplement their wages;
• hourly workers have no government mandated vacation or sick time;
• fewer than 50% of the privately owned employers in the USA provide health insurance coverage to employees
• during each economic crash, the poorest Americans have been hit the hardest, and given the least assistance to get them through the crash

At present, the Republican Party, lead by Mitch McConnell was prepared to cut American workers off benefits to FORCE people back to non-existent jobs, in the middle of the worst plague that the world has seen since the Black Death.

And you want people to vote for more of this?

That's the biggest run-on post hoc fallacy that I've seen in quite some time.

 

[Oddball]

There's plenty of people who are, could be, would be, libertarians if they weren't hypnotized by the LO2E exploit. I've seen this, over and over again. When polled outside the context of an election we'd routinely see 15%-20% of eligible voters describe themselves as libertarian. On an issue by issue basis, they're right there with us. But when an election rolls around, most of them are frightened into voting for one of the majors. Kinda like what's going on with this thread.

It doesn't help that the LP scaled the crazy tree and won't come back down.

 

[Oddball]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

Libertarians are just republicans who are embarrassed to admit it anyway.

/Thread.

You think one moronic, ignorant comment ends the thread? LOL, of course you do, creep.

BTW, one Democrat after another has said that lame DNC talking point. You do ever come up with your own material or just keep parroting what other Democrats say?

LOL, just kidding, I know you only keep parroting what other Democrats say ...

You don't actually know what a libertarian is, do you? Be honest

He doesn't...Most of the liberoidal creeps around here don't have any idea what the libertarian ethos entails...They merely rely upon the hyperbole, disinformation, and character assassination spoon fed to them by their party betters and the media.

 

[Dragonlady]

No, Libertarians nor libertarians don't need to support Republicans. They need to coalesce themselves to enter the fray as a viable alternative. But, in all honesty, the hard core are as idiotic as Democrats and Republicans when it comes to arguing amongst themselves- and, besides that Republicans haven't proven themselves any better at being less evil than Democrats- evil is evil, the degree is immaterial. Same destination, different rate of descent is still hitting a brick wall- 99 mph vs 100 mph is still devestating.

Voters should, IMNSHO vote ANTI- ENCUMBENT EVERY ELECTION. Period.

Yes, let's vote in another reality TV personality because that's worked well for you. The B-list movie star's cut taxes and spend approach started the biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the world - all of it to the top 20% of wealthy Americans. At that time, they only received 50% of the income of the nation. Today they get 80%.

Donald Trump - reality TV tough guy. In the real world, he's been a one-man disaster area - 7 corporate bankruptcies - the most of any American businessman in history. A long and economically frightening history of stiffing subtrades and driving small businessmen into bankruptcy, while walking away with millions of dollars in his own pockets. Sued for fraud on multiple occasions. American banks won't lend to him.

All of Trump's businesses are losing money. He's still living off the income of the Family Trust, much of which comes from apartment buildings which receive substantial government funds. When Trump cut rental supplements in his tax cut bill, he did not cut the program under which his Family Trust received federal funds.

Yeah. Continue to vote Republican, and call the Democrats evil.

No Democratic President has ever crash the economy. But two Democratic Presidents rebuilt that economy, after Republicans wrecked it utterly. Only to have the Republican propaganda machine trash all of their work and the sacrifices of working Americans on another round of cutting taxes for the wealthy, and spending like drunken sailors.

But this time is worse. Corona virus has made this crash a matter of life and death for the entire nation, and Republicans are choosing death.

 

[dblack]

T


There's plenty of people who are, could be, would be, libertarians if they weren't hypnotized by the LO2E exploit. I've seen this, over and over again. When polled outside the context of an election we'd routinely see 15%-20% of eligible voters describe themselves as libertarian. On an issue by issue basis, they're right there with us. But when an election rolls around, most of them are frightened into voting for one of the majors. Kinda like what's going on with this thread.

It doesn't help that the LP scaled the crazy tree and won't come back down.

What's crazy about them? Compared to what? Trump??? LOL

 

[Crepitus]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

Libertarians are just republicans who are embarrassed to admit it anyway.

/Thread.

You think one moronic, ignorant comment ends the thread? LOL, of course you do, creep.

BTW, one Democrat after another has said that lame DNC talking point. You do ever come up with your own material or just keep parroting what other Democrats say?

LOL, just kidding, I know you only keep parroting what other Democrats say ...

You don't actually know what a libertarian is, do you? Be honest

He doesn't...Most of the liberoidal creeps around here don't have any idea what the libertarian ethos entails...They merely rely upon the hyperbole, disinformation, and character assassination spoon fed to them by their party betters and the media.

Actually I do, but most of the folks claiming to be libertarians are merely tRumplings who are embarrassed to admit it.

 

[Gdjjr]

Yes, let's vote in another reality TV personality because that's worked well for you.

I didn't vote for Trump. Try again- and READ my signature doofus. It isn't there for decoration.

 

[Gdjjr]

most of the folks claiming to be libertarians are merely tRumplings who are embarrassed to admit it.

Proof?

 

[Dragonlady]

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

Libertarians are just republicans who are embarrassed to admit it anyway.

/Thread.

You think one moronic, ignorant comment ends the thread? LOL, of course you do, creep.

BTW, one Democrat after another has said that lame DNC talking point. You do ever come up with your own material or just keep parroting what other Democrats say?

LOL, just kidding, I know you only keep parroting what other Democrats say ...

You don't actually know what a libertarian is, do you? Be honest

It's true, and it invalidates your OP completely.

Well, no, it's not true. You're just equivocating. Libertarians are libertarians. Republicans are Republicans. Libertarians who vote Republican are just confused.

Real libertarians are about as common as Bigfoot and unicorns.

There's plenty of people who are, could be, would be, libertarians if they weren't hypnotized by the LO2E exploit. I've seen this, over and over again. When polled outside the context of an election we'd routinely see 15%-20% of eligible voters describe themselves as libertarian. On an issue by issue basis, they're right there with us. But when an election rolls around, most of them are frightened into voting for one of the majors. Kinda like what's going on with this thread.

The problem with libertarianism is that it implies that people will always do the right thing, and make choices that serve both their own interests and that of the public - don't shit where you eat stuff, but there are far too many people who are selfish and greedy, and quite frankly, don't give a shit, and that is why we, as a society, have to protect ourselves from these people.

 

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There's plenty of people who are, could be, would be, libertarians if they weren't hypnotized by the LO2E exploit. I've seen this, over and over again. When polled outside the context of an election we'd routinely see 15%-20% of eligible voters describe themselves as libertarian. On an issue by issue basis, they're right there with us. But when an election rolls around, most of them are frightened into voting for one of the majors. Kinda like what's going on with this thread.

It doesn't help that the LP scaled the crazy tree and won't come back down.

What's crazy about them? Compared to what? Trump??? LOL

Jo Jorgenson (Harry Browne's veep choice) has gone full SJW, with the rest of the party.

Nominating pale imitation retreads like Bob Barr and Gary Johnson.

The fatass stripper masquerading as a candate for the LP Chairman at the '16 convention.

And those are just off the top of my head.

Kaz is right....The LP became completely worthless after Badnarik.

 

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No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

Libertarians are just republicans who are embarrassed to admit it anyway.

/Thread.

You think one moronic, ignorant comment ends the thread? LOL, of course you do, creep.

BTW, one Democrat after another has said that lame DNC talking point. You do ever come up with your own material or just keep parroting what other Democrats say?

LOL, just kidding, I know you only keep parroting what other Democrats say ...

You don't actually know what a libertarian is, do you? Be honest

It's true, and it invalidates your OP completely.

Well, no, it's not true. You're just equivocating. Libertarians are libertarians. Republicans are Republicans. Libertarians who vote Republican are just confused.

Real libertarians are about as common as Bigfoot and unicorns.

There's plenty of people who are, could be, would be, libertarians if they weren't hypnotized by the LO2E exploit. I've seen this, over and over again. When polled outside the context of an election we'd routinely see 15%-20% of eligible voters describe themselves as libertarian. On an issue by issue basis, they're right there with us. But when an election rolls around, most of them are frightened into voting for one of the majors. Kinda like what's going on with this thread.

The problem with libertarianism is that it implies that people will always do the right thing

How so? I've never really seen that claim. Libertarians are all too aware that people can make mistakes, or even have ill intent. We're also aware that government is run by people. You do the math.

 

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The problem with libertarianism is that it implies that people will always do the right thing, and make choices that serve both their own interests and that of the public - don't shit where you eat stuff, but there are far too many people who are selfish and greedy, and quite frankly, don't give a shit, and that is why we, as a society, have to protect ourselves from these people.

LOL- protect yourself through proxy isn't really protecting yourself- just an FYI