The American tragedies of Malmedy

[eagle1462010]

When 20 Canadian Prisoners Were Murdered By The Waffen SS In Normandy - The Ardenne Abbey Massacre

In the early days of the Normandy campaign 20 Canadian soldiers, members of the North Nova Scotia Highlanders and 27th Armoured Regiment (part of the Sherbrooke Fusilier Regiment), were captured and executed by Waffen SS forces in a monastery near Caen, France. The incident was a direct violation of the Geneva Convention, which was signed by Germany before the war.

The executioner was the infamous SS Standartenfuhrer, Kurt Meyer. Meyer was in charge of the 25th Panzer Grenadier Regiment and under its wing, the fanatical 12th SS Panzer Division Hitlerjugend. The Hitlerjugend Division was comprised of ex-members of the Hitler Youth, who were sent to Caen to participate in combat against the invading Allies.

 

[eagle1462010]

Auschwitz guard offers Germans something rare: A Nazi who admits what he did

He was standing on a train platform after Hungarian Jews had been unloaded at the Nazi death camp. The unwitting condemned already had been sent to the gas chambers. The newly arrived slave laborers had been sent in a different direction.

Left behind on the platform was a crying infant. As the child cried, one of the now 93-year-old Oskar Groening’s fellow SS officers approached it, grabbed it by the leg, dashed its head against a nearby truck, then tossed the lifeless body into the truck.

Still, his testimony exposes the flaws in a decades-long German policy of pursuing only Nazis who could be shown to have blood on their hands.

Groening fully admits he was enthusiastic in his backing of Hitler. He described standing with another guard as he dumped the poison Zyklon B into a panel above a mass “shower room” and how he could hear the screams diminish after that. He talked about how, upon arriving to work at Auschwitz-Birkenau for the first time, he was informed that a large part of the camp was devoted to “discarding” the arriving Jews deemed unfit for slave labor.

Groening knew about and watched all that happened at the death camp. He didn’t actively kill people, but as the prosecution in this case is arguing, his actions made what happened possible. In fact, prosecutors note that his collecting cash that the doomed Hungarian Jews carried when they arrived at Auschwitz, and eventually hauling boxes of it to Berlin, “made it possible for the Nazis not only to continue but to profit from mass murder.”

 

[Bleipriester]

When they hear Malmedy, many Americans get mad over the Germans. This thread will put an end to this for the American readers. In short words, history "coverage" does not catch up with the findings of the victor´s justice. All defendants were released but media still teach the "Malmedy Massacre".

There was no such thing as a "Malmedy Massacre". During the Adrennes Offensive, German special forces led by war hero Skorzeny (Waffen-SS, acquittal in Nuremberg) caused trouble behind enemy lines. In US uniforms, they mucked around with the US forces. They had order to not to fight in false uniforms, which was prohibited. Among the Americans, panic broke out and they probably shoot each other. Propaganda used their tragedy to create a new fantastic story.

The bombings of Malmedy are rarely mentioned because of their ruthless character. Allied bombers reduced many places to ashes in France, Belgium and anywhere, where "liberation" took place. German forces indeed entered the town of Malmedy but quickly withdrew. When the US bombers targeted the town, the city was full of civilians and US soldiers. Thousands were killed in this tragedy.

While as only fact remains, that the dead of the civilians of Malmedy was accepted, we still hear about this alleged massacre that has never happened. It is time for fake historians and the media to refrain from their proven lies that still unnecessarily create gaps between the German and the American people.

What an odd bit of history to resurrect and lie about. Nobody is talking about Malmedy except for a Nazi fanboy like you.

You just need to demonize the enemy in order to justify the involvements. Hadn´t France and Britain not declared war on Germany, the whole thing would never have happened.

Germany and the United States are now allies. You decided it was necessary to bring up this episode in order to glorify the Nazi's and the SS.

And France and Britain declared war because Germany invaded Poland. Not invading Poland would have not only prevented the Malmedy massacre- but the death of millions of Poles.

The German-Polish dispute was nothing for other countries to pry into. The oppressed German population in polish occupied territories was the trigger for the war when Poland rejected the 16 Points plan offered by Germany.

France and the UK had treaties with Poland- when Germany decided to invade Poland.

Hitler's motivations were pretty clear- from his own words

With minor exceptions German national unification has been achieved. Further successes cannot be achieved without bloodshed. Poland will always be on the side of our adversaries... Danzig is not the objective. It is a matter of expanding our living space in the east, of making our food supply secure, and solving the problem of the Baltic states. To provide sufficient food you must have sparsely settled areas. There is therefore no question of sparing Poland, and the decision remains to attack Poland at the first opportunity. We cannot expect a repetition of Czechoslovakia. There will be fighting.[36]



The object of the war is … physically to destroy the enemy. That is why I have prepared, for the moment only in the East, my 'Death's Head' formations with orders to kill without pity or mercy all men, women, and children of Polish descent or language. Only in this way can we obtain the living space we need. [37]

The "re-unification" was not an achievement at all.

Direct costs of the "re-unification":
- Germany behind Oder/Neiße
- The German national currencies, both Mark (GDR) and D-Mark (FRG)

Indirect costs of the "re-unification":
- Large parts of the German economy
- Germany
- Economic growths of 10 % in both German states.

What an achievement!


Germany according to international law:

Behind the "re-unification":
Not only the political mood in the GDR was critical but the economic development as well. The GDR was linked to an economic failing union and all efforts to maintain western standards were in vain. In fact, the GDR JOINED the FRG and this raised concerns, particularly in France. Germany too mighty? Germany to strike back one day? The idea of a European currency (ECU) was born and Kohl had to accept it. He sold out the entire country although his CDU was among the strongest promising the ENTIRE Germany.

 

[eagle1462010]

Holocaust Photos

pictures are worth a thousand words.........ENJOY IT OP

 

[Bleipriester]

Auschwitz guard offers Germans something rare: A Nazi who admits what he did

He was standing on a train platform after Hungarian Jews had been unloaded at the Nazi death camp. The unwitting condemned already had been sent to the gas chambers. The newly arrived slave laborers had been sent in a different direction.

Left behind on the platform was a crying infant. As the child cried, one of the now 93-year-old Oskar Groening’s fellow SS officers approached it, grabbed it by the leg, dashed its head against a nearby truck, then tossed the lifeless body into the truck.

Still, his testimony exposes the flaws in a decades-long German policy of pursuing only Nazis who could be shown to have blood on their hands.

Groening fully admits he was enthusiastic in his backing of Hitler. He described standing with another guard as he dumped the poison Zyklon B into a panel above a mass “shower room” and how he could hear the screams diminish after that. He talked about how, upon arriving to work at Auschwitz-Birkenau for the first time, he was informed that a large part of the camp was devoted to “discarding” the arriving Jews deemed unfit for slave labor.

Groening knew about and watched all that happened at the death camp. He didn’t actively kill people, but as the prosecution in this case is arguing, his actions made what happened possible. In fact, prosecutors note that his collecting cash that the doomed Hungarian Jews carried when they arrived at Auschwitz, and eventually hauling boxes of it to Berlin, “made it possible for the Nazis not only to continue but to profit from mass murder.”

I wonder where this 6 million Jews that occupied Palestine came form after the war. However, your "massacres" and real German crimes fade in the face of the allies´ bombings and nuclear holocaust.

 

[Bleipriester]

Holocaust Photos

pictures are worth a thousand words.........ENJOY IT OP

Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse - Wikipedia

 

[eagle1462010]

Auschwitz guard offers Germans something rare: A Nazi who admits what he did

He was standing on a train platform after Hungarian Jews had been unloaded at the Nazi death camp. The unwitting condemned already had been sent to the gas chambers. The newly arrived slave laborers had been sent in a different direction.

Left behind on the platform was a crying infant. As the child cried, one of the now 93-year-old Oskar Groening’s fellow SS officers approached it, grabbed it by the leg, dashed its head against a nearby truck, then tossed the lifeless body into the truck.

Still, his testimony exposes the flaws in a decades-long German policy of pursuing only Nazis who could be shown to have blood on their hands.

Groening fully admits he was enthusiastic in his backing of Hitler. He described standing with another guard as he dumped the poison Zyklon B into a panel above a mass “shower room” and how he could hear the screams diminish after that. He talked about how, upon arriving to work at Auschwitz-Birkenau for the first time, he was informed that a large part of the camp was devoted to “discarding” the arriving Jews deemed unfit for slave labor.

Groening knew about and watched all that happened at the death camp. He didn’t actively kill people, but as the prosecution in this case is arguing, his actions made what happened possible. In fact, prosecutors note that his collecting cash that the doomed Hungarian Jews carried when they arrived at Auschwitz, and eventually hauling boxes of it to Berlin, “made it possible for the Nazis not only to continue but to profit from mass murder.”

I wonder where this 6 million Jews that occupied Palestine came form after the war. However, your "massacres" and real German crimes fade in the face of the allies´ bombings and nuclear holocaust.

Germans invaded other countries......committed mass murders and were put down like the dogs they were...........................

They initiated it................THEY LOST............and it was fought like a War..........not the BS we have today.

 

[eagle1462010]

Holocaust Photos

pictures are worth a thousand words.........ENJOY IT OP

Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse - Wikipedia

As you change the subject when caught in your lie...........

Why do you defend the actions of the SS and the Nazi's.???

 

[Bleipriester]

Holocaust Photos

pictures are worth a thousand words.........ENJOY IT OP

You want it this way!

My Lai Massacre - Wikipedia

 

[Bleipriester]

Auschwitz guard offers Germans something rare: A Nazi who admits what he did

He was standing on a train platform after Hungarian Jews had been unloaded at the Nazi death camp. The unwitting condemned already had been sent to the gas chambers. The newly arrived slave laborers had been sent in a different direction.

Left behind on the platform was a crying infant. As the child cried, one of the now 93-year-old Oskar Groening’s fellow SS officers approached it, grabbed it by the leg, dashed its head against a nearby truck, then tossed the lifeless body into the truck.

Still, his testimony exposes the flaws in a decades-long German policy of pursuing only Nazis who could be shown to have blood on their hands.

Groening fully admits he was enthusiastic in his backing of Hitler. He described standing with another guard as he dumped the poison Zyklon B into a panel above a mass “shower room” and how he could hear the screams diminish after that. He talked about how, upon arriving to work at Auschwitz-Birkenau for the first time, he was informed that a large part of the camp was devoted to “discarding” the arriving Jews deemed unfit for slave labor.

Groening knew about and watched all that happened at the death camp. He didn’t actively kill people, but as the prosecution in this case is arguing, his actions made what happened possible. In fact, prosecutors note that his collecting cash that the doomed Hungarian Jews carried when they arrived at Auschwitz, and eventually hauling boxes of it to Berlin, “made it possible for the Nazis not only to continue but to profit from mass murder.”

I wonder where this 6 million Jews that occupied Palestine came form after the war. However, your "massacres" and real German crimes fade in the face of the allies´ bombings and nuclear holocaust.

Germans invaded other countries......committed mass murders and were put down like the dogs they were...........................

They initiated it................THEY LOST............and it was fought like a War..........not the BS we have today.

You´ve got a date when the US was not raiding another country, killing thousands and millions?

 

[Bleipriester]

Holocaust Photos

pictures are worth a thousand words.........ENJOY IT OP

Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse - Wikipedia

As you change the subject when caught in your lie...........

Why do you defend the actions of the SS and the Nazi's.???

Don´t besmear our brave soldiers. Nobody´s doing such dishonorably abhorrent scribble all over the place but you.

 

[eagle1462010]

Holocaust Photos

pictures are worth a thousand words.........ENJOY IT OP

Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse - Wikipedia

As you change the subject when caught in your lie...........

Why do you defend the actions of the SS and the Nazi's.???

Don´t besmear our brave soldiers. Nobody´s doing such dishonorably abhorrent scribble all over the place but you.

You defend Nazi scum bags..................with your Lies...............take my posts however the hell you want to.

 

[Syriusly]

What an odd bit of history to resurrect and lie about. Nobody is talking about Malmedy except for a Nazi fanboy like you.

You just need to demonize the enemy in order to justify the involvements. Hadn´t France and Britain not declared war on Germany, the whole thing would never have happened.

Germany and the United States are now allies. You decided it was necessary to bring up this episode in order to glorify the Nazi's and the SS.

And France and Britain declared war because Germany invaded Poland. Not invading Poland would have not only prevented the Malmedy massacre- but the death of millions of Poles.

Stalin invaded too and became their allies.

And? So Hitler and Stalin were both assholes who decided to invade Poland.

That doesn't change the ridiculousness of your claim that the massacre would not have happened if the UK and France had not declared war on Germany. You conveniently overlooked Germany's own actions.

That´s not my claim as the massacre has never happened. You can read Skorzeny´s book, criminal actions by a part of the forces are not overlooked.

Because of course Skorzeny is the only one to believe. He wouldn't write anything to make himself look better would he.....

Despite what you Nazi Fan Boys say- yes the massacre happened- why you feel a need to proclaim this revisionist history is to be determined.

 

[Syriusly]

Wonder why these neo-NAZIs are feeling it's the time to come out.....

Obama was the biggest Nazi leader of the present with the arming and training of Nazi forces in the Ukraine. Those are not to be compared with the mostly chivalric fighting German forces of the WWII.

Liar.

The Neo-Nazi Question in Ukraine | HuffPost

The link to the opinion piece you used to respond to being called a liar does not address the topic you were being called a liar for. Hence, it is still accurate to confirm and verify you as a liar.

How ridiculous is it to have someone complaining that German soldiers are unfairly accused of committing war crimes and atrocities during WWII like the doofus who started this thread is doing.

It´s not an opinion peace and it doesn´t matter, anyway. Its the truths. Obama backed anyone who is willing to kill and slaughter for his masters.

LOL- says the Nazi fan boy trying to portray the Nazi's as misunderstood angels...

 

[Syriusly]

What an odd bit of history to resurrect and lie about. Nobody is talking about Malmedy except for a Nazi fanboy like you.

You just need to demonize the enemy in order to justify the involvements. Hadn´t France and Britain not declared war on Germany, the whole thing would never have happened.

Germany and the United States are now allies. You decided it was necessary to bring up this episode in order to glorify the Nazi's and the SS.

And France and Britain declared war because Germany invaded Poland. Not invading Poland would have not only prevented the Malmedy massacre- but the death of millions of Poles.

The German-Polish dispute was nothing for other countries to pry into. The oppressed German population in polish occupied territories was the trigger for the war when Poland rejected the 16 Points plan offered by Germany.

France and the UK had treaties with Poland- when Germany decided to invade Poland.

Hitler's motivations were pretty clear- from his own words

With minor exceptions German national unification has been achieved. Further successes cannot be achieved without bloodshed. Poland will always be on the side of our adversaries... Danzig is not the objective. It is a matter of expanding our living space in the east, of making our food supply secure, and solving the problem of the Baltic states. To provide sufficient food you must have sparsely settled areas. There is therefore no question of sparing Poland, and the decision remains to attack Poland at the first opportunity. We cannot expect a repetition of Czechoslovakia. There will be fighting.[36]



The object of the war is … physically to destroy the enemy. That is why I have prepared, for the moment only in the East, my 'Death's Head' formations with orders to kill without pity or mercy all men, women, and children of Polish descent or language. Only in this way can we obtain the living space we need. [37]

The "re-unification" was not an achievement at all.

Once again Hitler's words for why Poland needed to be invaded:

Hitler's motivations were pretty clear- from his own words

With minor exceptions German national unification has been achieved. Further successes cannot be achieved without bloodshed. Poland will always be on the side of our adversaries... Danzig is not the objective. It is a matter of expanding our living space in the east, of making our food supply secure, and solving the problem of the Baltic states. To provide sufficient food you must have sparsely settled areas. There is therefore no question of sparing Poland, and the decision remains to attack Poland at the first opportunity. We cannot expect a repetition of Czechoslovakia. There will be fighting.[36]



The object of the war is … physically to destroy the enemy. That is why I have prepared, for the moment only in the East, my 'Death's Head' formations with orders to kill without pity or mercy all men, women, and children of Polish descent or language. Only in this way can we obtain the living space we need.

 

[Syriusly]

Auschwitz guard offers Germans something rare: A Nazi who admits what he did

He was standing on a train platform after Hungarian Jews had been unloaded at the Nazi death camp. The unwitting condemned already had been sent to the gas chambers. The newly arrived slave laborers had been sent in a different direction.

Left behind on the platform was a crying infant. As the child cried, one of the now 93-year-old Oskar Groening’s fellow SS officers approached it, grabbed it by the leg, dashed its head against a nearby truck, then tossed the lifeless body into the truck.

Still, his testimony exposes the flaws in a decades-long German policy of pursuing only Nazis who could be shown to have blood on their hands.

Groening fully admits he was enthusiastic in his backing of Hitler. He described standing with another guard as he dumped the poison Zyklon B into a panel above a mass “shower room” and how he could hear the screams diminish after that. He talked about how, upon arriving to work at Auschwitz-Birkenau for the first time, he was informed that a large part of the camp was devoted to “discarding” the arriving Jews deemed unfit for slave labor.

Groening knew about and watched all that happened at the death camp. He didn’t actively kill people, but as the prosecution in this case is arguing, his actions made what happened possible. In fact, prosecutors note that his collecting cash that the doomed Hungarian Jews carried when they arrived at Auschwitz, and eventually hauling boxes of it to Berlin, “made it possible for the Nazis not only to continue but to profit from mass murder.”

I wonder where this 6 million Jews that occupied Palestine came form after the war.

Who is surprised that Nazi Fan Boy is also a Holocaust denier?

Anyone?

Anyone?

 

[Bleipriester]

Amazing............trying to lie about WWII as well............the OP has no shame.

Sad but true: Some of you want to hate, want this massacre to be true. What has happened to you?

Your a LIAR..............No one listens to a LIAR...........

There were trials and investigations in WWII.........and the SS were charged tried and convicted..........

The SS conducted MASS MURDER all over Europe..........Including the extermination of Jews and those deemed inferior by the Nazi's scum bags...........

They tried to take over the world and got their asses kicked. Deserved it........as will those who are trying to kill all of those not believing in their religion from the Middle East...........

Again.......they deserved their fate for what they did............and your a LIAR.

Malmedy massacre trial - Wikipedia

I wrote in the OP that fake historians and media must refrain from their LIES!

"However, Lieutenant Colonel Hal McCown, commander of the 2nd Battalion, 119th Infantry Regiment, testified about the treatment his unit was given after being captured on 21 December by Peiper's Kampfgruppe at Froidcour between La Gleize and Stoumont. McCown said he met Peiper in person and based on his observations, American prisoners were at no time mistreated by the SS and the food given to them was nearly as good as that used by the Germans themselves."

"Peiper was convicted of war crimes committed in Belgium and imprisoned for almost 12 years. He was accused of war crimes in Italy, but Italian and German courts concluded that there was insufficient evidence to warrant prosecution.

After his release from prison, Peiper worked for both Porsche and Volkswagen, before moving to France, where he translated books from English to German under the nom de plume "Rainer Buschmann". Peiper was murdered in France in July 1976."
Joachim Peiper - Wikipedia

Do not besmear our people!

 

[Bleipriester]

You just need to demonize the enemy in order to justify the involvements. Hadn´t France and Britain not declared war on Germany, the whole thing would never have happened.

Germany and the United States are now allies. You decided it was necessary to bring up this episode in order to glorify the Nazi's and the SS.

And France and Britain declared war because Germany invaded Poland. Not invading Poland would have not only prevented the Malmedy massacre- but the death of millions of Poles.

Stalin invaded too and became their allies.

And? So Hitler and Stalin were both assholes who decided to invade Poland.

That doesn't change the ridiculousness of your claim that the massacre would not have happened if the UK and France had not declared war on Germany. You conveniently overlooked Germany's own actions.

That´s not my claim as the massacre has never happened. You can read Skorzeny´s book, criminal actions by a part of the forces are not overlooked.

Because of course Skorzeny is the only one to believe. He wouldn't write anything to make himself look better would he.....

Despite what you Nazi Fan Boys say- yes the massacre happened- why you feel a need to proclaim this revisionist history is to be determined.

Read the OP, you passionate Germany hater!

 

[IsaacNewton]

Shouldn't this be in the Conspiracy Theories forum.

Holy shit, we agree on something.

No we don't.

 

[Camp]

Amazing............trying to lie about WWII as well............the OP has no shame.

Sad but true: Some of you want to hate, want this massacre to be true. What has happened to you?

Your a LIAR..............No one listens to a LIAR...........

There were trials and investigations in WWII.........and the SS were charged tried and convicted..........

The SS conducted MASS MURDER all over Europe..........Including the extermination of Jews and those deemed inferior by the Nazi's scum bags...........

They tried to take over the world and got their asses kicked. Deserved it........as will those who are trying to kill all of those not believing in their religion from the Middle East...........

Again.......they deserved their fate for what they did............and your a LIAR.

Malmedy massacre trial - Wikipedia

I wrote in the OP that fake historians and media must refrain from their LIES!

"However, Lieutenant Colonel Hal McCown, commander of the 2nd Battalion, 119th Infantry Regiment, testified about the treatment his unit was given after being captured on 21 December by Peiper's Kampfgruppe at Froidcour between La Gleize and Stoumont. McCown said he met Peiper in person and based on his observations, American prisoners were at no time mistreated by the SS and the food given to them was nearly as good as that used by the Germans themselves."

"Peiper was convicted of war crimes committed in Belgium and imprisoned for almost 12 years. He was accused of war crimes in Italy, but Italian and German courts concluded that there was insufficient evidence to warrant prosecution.

After his release from prison, Peiper worked for both Porsche and Volkswagen, before moving to France, where he translated books from English to German under the nom de plume "Rainer Buschmann". Peiper was murdered in France in July 1976."
Joachim Peiper - Wikipedia

Do not besmear our people!

FU you lying POS. We will besmear" your people as much as we want and in the future disparage you for being the turd you are.