The American tragedies of Malmedy

[Bleipriester]

When they hear Malmedy, many Americans get mad over the Germans. This thread will put an end to this for the American readers. In short words, history "coverage" does not catch up with the findings of the victor´s justice. All defendants were released but media still teach the "Malmedy Massacre".

There was no such thing as a "Malmedy Massacre". During the Adrennes Offensive, German special forces led by war hero Skorzeny (Waffen-SS, acquittal in Nuremberg) caused trouble behind enemy lines. In US uniforms, they mucked around with the US forces. They had order to not to fight in false uniforms, which was prohibited. Among the Americans, panic broke out and they probably shoot each other. Propaganda used their tragedy to create a new fantastic story.

The bombings of Malmedy are rarely mentioned because of their ruthless character. Allied bombers reduced many places to ashes in France, Belgium and anywhere, where "liberation" took place. German forces indeed entered the town of Malmedy but quickly withdrew. When the US bombers targeted the town, the city was full of civilians and US soldiers. Thousands were killed in this tragedy.

While as only fact remains, that the dead of the civilians of Malmedy was accepted, we still hear about this alleged massacre that has never happened. It is time for fake historians and the media to refrain from their proven lies that still unnecessarily create gaps between the German and the American people.

 

[The Irish Ram]

We have a new problem that should push Germany and America even farther apart, for a time. When Obammy was in office, the UN created 4 little horns. America, Germany, France, and England to implement the UN objective and Muslim diaspora. We stopped Hitlery from continuing the practice of destroying our country like you have yours and France has theirs.
You accepted the carnage as your "new normal". We are still clinging to our sovereignty with bloody fingers and tenacity. It is temporary. We will join you soon in your UN/NWO suicide.

 

[cnm]

Interesting. You should let these guys know the real story.

Twenty-one American survivors made statements to U.S. authorities in Malmédy on December 17, the same day as the massacre, and on the following day–long before there was any possibility of collusion or anybody putting ideas into their heads. They all told essentially the same story: After surrendering to a German armored column and being disarmed, they were assembled in a field just south of the crossroads. The Germans then opened fire on them with machine guns and rifles. In most cases, the survivors mentioned two pistol shots before the main shooting started. They said that soldiers then entered the field and shot anyone who showed any signs of life and that many of the bodies were kicked or prodded in order to get a response
Massacre At Malmedy During the Battle of the Bulge | HistoryNet​

 

[Bleipriester]

Interesting. You should let these guys know the real story.

Twenty-one American survivors made statements to U.S. authorities in Malmédy on December 17, the same day as the massacre, and on the following day–long before there was any possibility of collusion or anybody putting ideas into their heads. They all told essentially the same story: After surrendering to a German armored column and being disarmed, they were assembled in a field just south of the crossroads. The Germans then opened fire on them with machine guns and rifles. In most cases, the survivors mentioned two pistol shots before the main shooting started. They said that soldiers then entered the field and shot anyone who showed any signs of life and that many of the bodies were kicked or prodded in order to get a response
Massacre At Malmedy During the Battle of the Bulge | HistoryNet​

Let us know how to survive an execution when you figure it out. Particularity the "coup de grâce" would be a good skill to survive.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Shouldn't this be in the Conspiracy Theories forum.

 

[Bleipriester]

Shouldn't this be in the Conspiracy Theories forum.

No.

 

[harmonica]

When they hear Malmedy, many Americans get mad over the Germans. This thread will put an end to this for the American readers. In short words, history "coverage" does not catch up with the findings of the victor´s justice. All defendants were released but media still teach the "Malmedy Massacre".

There was no such thing as a "Malmedy Massacre". During the Adrennes Offensive, German special forces led by war hero Skorzeny (Waffen-SS, acquittal in Nuremberg) caused trouble behind enemy lines. In US uniforms, they mucked around with the US forces. They had order to not to fight in false uniforms, which was prohibited. Among the Americans, panic broke out and they probably shoot each other. Propaganda used their tragedy to create a new fantastic story.

The bombings of Malmedy are rarely mentioned because of their ruthless character. Allied bombers reduced many places to ashes in France, Belgium and anywhere, where "liberation" took place. German forces indeed entered the town of Malmedy but quickly withdrew. When the US bombers targeted the town, the city was full of civilians and US soldiers. Thousands were killed in this tragedy.

While as only fact remains, that the dead of the civilians of Malmedy was accepted, we still hear about this alleged massacre that has never happened. It is time for fake historians and the media to refrain from their proven lies that still unnecessarily create gaps between the German and the American people.

you hypothesize something incredible--but have no facts/links/proof/??
Skorzeny wasn't even involved in Malmedy
they ''probably'' shoot each other????!!!!
what the heck are you talking about?

 

[Bleipriester]

When they hear Malmedy, many Americans get mad over the Germans. This thread will put an end to this for the American readers. In short words, history "coverage" does not catch up with the findings of the victor´s justice. All defendants were released but media still teach the "Malmedy Massacre".

There was no such thing as a "Malmedy Massacre". During the Adrennes Offensive, German special forces led by war hero Skorzeny (Waffen-SS, acquittal in Nuremberg) caused trouble behind enemy lines. In US uniforms, they mucked around with the US forces. They had order to not to fight in false uniforms, which was prohibited. Among the Americans, panic broke out and they probably shoot each other. Propaganda used their tragedy to create a new fantastic story.

The bombings of Malmedy are rarely mentioned because of their ruthless character. Allied bombers reduced many places to ashes in France, Belgium and anywhere, where "liberation" took place. German forces indeed entered the town of Malmedy but quickly withdrew. When the US bombers targeted the town, the city was full of civilians and US soldiers. Thousands were killed in this tragedy.

While as only fact remains, that the dead of the civilians of Malmedy was accepted, we still hear about this alleged massacre that has never happened. It is time for fake historians and the media to refrain from their proven lies that still unnecessarily create gaps between the German and the American people.

you hypothesize something incredible--but have no facts/links/proof/??
Skorzeny wasn't even involved in Malmedy
they ''probably'' shoot each other????!!!!
what the heck are you talking about?

Yes, Skorzeny was involved. He was not personally present (Hitler order) but his men carried out the covert operations. Some were executed by the Americans.

 

[harmonica]

where is your proof for your assertion?
ever read the book Fatal Crossroads ?

 

[Bleipriester]

where is your proof for your assertion?
ever read the book Fatal Crossroads ?

I read Skorzeny´s book.

 

[harmonica]

where is your proof for your assertion?
ever read the book Fatal Crossroads ?

I read Skorzeny´s book.

but survivors-there were survivors--say otherwise
also there was another US unit that disputes your theory--the 291st Engineer Combat BTLN

 

[Bleipriester]

where is your proof for your assertion?
ever read the book Fatal Crossroads ?

I read Skorzeny´s book.

but survivors-there were survivors--say otherwise
also there was another US unit that disputes your theory--the 291st Engineer Combat BTLN

Yes, those "survivors" met Peiper and his division. He let them go.

 

[Syriusly]

When they hear Malmedy, many Americans get mad over the Germans. This thread will put an end to this for the American readers. In short words, history "coverage" does not catch up with the findings of the victor´s justice. All defendants were released but media still teach the "Malmedy Massacre".

There was no such thing as a "Malmedy Massacre". During the Adrennes Offensive, German special forces led by war hero Skorzeny (Waffen-SS, acquittal in Nuremberg) caused trouble behind enemy lines. In US uniforms, they mucked around with the US forces. They had order to not to fight in false uniforms, which was prohibited. Among the Americans, panic broke out and they probably shoot each other. Propaganda used their tragedy to create a new fantastic story.

The bombings of Malmedy are rarely mentioned because of their ruthless character. Allied bombers reduced many places to ashes in France, Belgium and anywhere, where "liberation" took place. German forces indeed entered the town of Malmedy but quickly withdrew. When the US bombers targeted the town, the city was full of civilians and US soldiers. Thousands were killed in this tragedy.

While as only fact remains, that the dead of the civilians of Malmedy was accepted, we still hear about this alleged massacre that has never happened. It is time for fake historians and the media to refrain from their proven lies that still unnecessarily create gaps between the German and the American people.

What an odd bit of history to resurrect and lie about. Nobody is talking about Malmedy except for a Nazi fanboy like you.

 

[Syriusly]

When they hear Malmedy, many Americans get mad over the Germans. This thread will put an end to this for the American readers. In short words, history "coverage" does not catch up with the findings of the victor´s justice. All defendants were released but media still teach the "Malmedy Massacre".

There was no such thing as a "Malmedy Massacre". During the Adrennes Offensive, German special forces led by war hero Skorzeny (Waffen-SS, acquittal in Nuremberg) caused trouble behind enemy lines. In US uniforms, they mucked around with the US forces. They had order to not to fight in false uniforms, which was prohibited. Among the Americans, panic broke out and they probably shoot each other. Propaganda used their tragedy to create a new fantastic story.

The bombings of Malmedy are rarely mentioned because of their ruthless character. Allied bombers reduced many places to ashes in France, Belgium and anywhere, where "liberation" took place. German forces indeed entered the town of Malmedy but quickly withdrew. When the US bombers targeted the town, the city was full of civilians and US soldiers. Thousands were killed in this tragedy.

While as only fact remains, that the dead of the civilians of Malmedy was accepted, we still hear about this alleged massacre that has never happened. It is time for fake historians and the media to refrain from their proven lies that still unnecessarily create gaps between the German and the American people.

you hypothesize something incredible--but have no facts/links/proof/??
Skorzeny wasn't even involved in Malmedy
they ''probably'' shoot each other????!!!!
what the heck are you talking about?

Just another Nazi fanboy trying to rehabilitate the 'noble' SS.

 

[Syriusly]

There is one thing to remember about this: While the Nazi's did specifically massacre American prisoners at Malmedy- they also shot dozens of Belgian citizens during the Battle of the Bulge.

 

[whitehall]

You can't examine Malmedy without examining the most incredible intelligence failure in modern warfare, generally referred to as the "Battle of the Bulge". Ike was attending a series of Christmas parties given by Staff Officers and the Troops were relaxing while the rumors of "home for Christmas" ran unabated. George Patton's career was over for slapping an enlisted man but Ike lost almost 20,000 Troops due to negligence and incompetence during the Battle of the Bulge.. Ike should have been relieved of duty but true to form the U.S. media turned a military blunder around with the "Bloody Bastards of Bastogne" propaganda campaign and Ike was politically unscathed.

 

[Bleipriester]

When they hear Malmedy, many Americans get mad over the Germans. This thread will put an end to this for the American readers. In short words, history "coverage" does not catch up with the findings of the victor´s justice. All defendants were released but media still teach the "Malmedy Massacre".

There was no such thing as a "Malmedy Massacre". During the Adrennes Offensive, German special forces led by war hero Skorzeny (Waffen-SS, acquittal in Nuremberg) caused trouble behind enemy lines. In US uniforms, they mucked around with the US forces. They had order to not to fight in false uniforms, which was prohibited. Among the Americans, panic broke out and they probably shoot each other. Propaganda used their tragedy to create a new fantastic story.

The bombings of Malmedy are rarely mentioned because of their ruthless character. Allied bombers reduced many places to ashes in France, Belgium and anywhere, where "liberation" took place. German forces indeed entered the town of Malmedy but quickly withdrew. When the US bombers targeted the town, the city was full of civilians and US soldiers. Thousands were killed in this tragedy.

While as only fact remains, that the dead of the civilians of Malmedy was accepted, we still hear about this alleged massacre that has never happened. It is time for fake historians and the media to refrain from their proven lies that still unnecessarily create gaps between the German and the American people.

What an odd bit of history to resurrect and lie about. Nobody is talking about Malmedy except for a Nazi fanboy like you.

You just need to demonize the enemy in order to justify the involvements. Hadn´t France and Britain not declared war on Germany, the whole thing would never have happened.

 

[bodecea]

When they hear Malmedy, many Americans get mad over the Germans. This thread will put an end to this for the American readers. In short words, history "coverage" does not catch up with the findings of the victor´s justice. All defendants were released but media still teach the "Malmedy Massacre".

There was no such thing as a "Malmedy Massacre". During the Adrennes Offensive, German special forces led by war hero Skorzeny (Waffen-SS, acquittal in Nuremberg) caused trouble behind enemy lines. In US uniforms, they mucked around with the US forces. They had order to not to fight in false uniforms, which was prohibited. Among the Americans, panic broke out and they probably shoot each other. Propaganda used their tragedy to create a new fantastic story.

The bombings of Malmedy are rarely mentioned because of their ruthless character. Allied bombers reduced many places to ashes in France, Belgium and anywhere, where "liberation" took place. German forces indeed entered the town of Malmedy but quickly withdrew. When the US bombers targeted the town, the city was full of civilians and US soldiers. Thousands were killed in this tragedy.

While as only fact remains, that the dead of the civilians of Malmedy was accepted, we still hear about this alleged massacre that has never happened. It is time for fake historians and the media to refrain from their proven lies that still unnecessarily create gaps between the German and the American people.

What an odd bit of history to resurrect and lie about. Nobody is talking about Malmedy except for a Nazi fanboy like you.

Wonder why these neo-NAZIs are feeling it's the time to come out.....

 

[Bleipriester]

You can't examine Malmedy without examining the most incredible intelligence failure in modern warfare, generally referred to as the "Battle of the Bulge". Ike was attending a series of Christmas parties given by Staff Officers and the Troops were relaxing while the rumors of "home for Christmas" ran unabated. George Patton's career was over for slapping an enlisted man but Ike lost almost 20,000 Troops due to negligence and incompetence during the Battle of the Bulge.. Ike should have been relieved of duty but true to form the U.S. media turned a military blunder around with the "Bloody Bastards of Bastogne" propaganda campaign and Ike was politically unscathed.

I don´t think Ike can be made responsible for the ongoings. The allies thought Eisenhower was about to be abducted and it was a double that was traveling around. Almost every US soldier was "arrested" to determine if he´s a German, even manifold, even Eisenhower. The allies were paralyzed. Of course, a plan to capture Ike never existed and there was no intention to make the allies believe it. The secrecy of the mission was very harsh, even the soldiers didn´t know and believed the Ike thingy.
The Germans gave wrong orders to the Americans, a total chaos broke out. The covert operations had much more success than hoped and if the German forces were not stuck in the streets and could have used the momentum, a total breakdown of the allies would have been inevitable and the western frontier would have been stabilized at least until April 45 according to Skorzeny. However, the Maas bridges that were up to be manned by the special forces were not occupied. The divisions got stuck in the streets due to the conditions and the lack of fuel and the mission became obsolete.

 

[Bleipriester]

When they hear Malmedy, many Americans get mad over the Germans. This thread will put an end to this for the American readers. In short words, history "coverage" does not catch up with the findings of the victor´s justice. All defendants were released but media still teach the "Malmedy Massacre".

There was no such thing as a "Malmedy Massacre". During the Adrennes Offensive, German special forces led by war hero Skorzeny (Waffen-SS, acquittal in Nuremberg) caused trouble behind enemy lines. In US uniforms, they mucked around with the US forces. They had order to not to fight in false uniforms, which was prohibited. Among the Americans, panic broke out and they probably shoot each other. Propaganda used their tragedy to create a new fantastic story.

The bombings of Malmedy are rarely mentioned because of their ruthless character. Allied bombers reduced many places to ashes in France, Belgium and anywhere, where "liberation" took place. German forces indeed entered the town of Malmedy but quickly withdrew. When the US bombers targeted the town, the city was full of civilians and US soldiers. Thousands were killed in this tragedy.

While as only fact remains, that the dead of the civilians of Malmedy was accepted, we still hear about this alleged massacre that has never happened. It is time for fake historians and the media to refrain from their proven lies that still unnecessarily create gaps between the German and the American people.

What an odd bit of history to resurrect and lie about. Nobody is talking about Malmedy except for a Nazi fanboy like you.

Wonder why these neo-NAZIs are feeling it's the time to come out.....

Obama was the biggest Nazi leader of the present with the arming and training of Nazi forces in the Ukraine. Those are not to be compared with the mostly chivalric fighting German forces of the WWII.