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I have an idea. If you thank GZ is guilty of murder just post "Guilty". If agree with the verdict of the jury then post "Not Guilty". No need at this point to give any reason for your opinion because the other side doesn't give a rats ass anyway.
Trayvon Martin was a thug in training. This is not important except in one respect. Was being a young thug, just trying his wings, the kind of person who would have a propensity to attack others? The jury, upon the testimony of Rachel Jeantel that Martin probably threw the first punch, concluded that he was.
In this case, Zimmerman is innocent. The reason is that the jury ruled self-defense, which is not a crime. The initial police report showed that his wounds were consistent with what Zimmerman told police after the fact, which showed that he was not the aggressor.
ALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:There's very little question that Trayvon Martin gave George Zimmerman a beating before Zimmerman pulled a gun and shot him. It was about as clear cut a case of self defense as I've ever seen yet Martin's actions have been excused because he was "followed". I'm sorry but since when did following someone at a distance after calling the Police to report suspicious activity become an excuse for assault & battery?
The above bigoted comments are from just the first page of this thread. Need I say more? Do you understand now why Zimmerman's racial profiling of an unarmed black youth--leading to him actively pursuing and then executing the unarmed youth, after which Zimmerman got off scott free--is such an outrage to Black people?
Zimmerman's remark to the 911 operator was that an African American kid who appeared about 18 years old was looking like hes up to no good. That's called racial profiling.
Zimmerman then got out of his car and pursued the juvenile. Zimmerman said under his breath: "They always get away." Assigning the word "they" in negative undertones to an entire ethnic group is called racial profiling. Below is a weblink as well as a video of the 911 phone call. Listen for the following statements.
Zimmerman to Operator: "He's running."
911 Operator to Zimmerman: "Are you following him?"
Zimmerman to Operator: "Yeah."
911 Operator to Zimmerman: "Okay, we don't need you to do that. Okay?"
Raw: 911 call Zimmerman made to Sanford police (Explicit) | www.wftv.com
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOpGAOXL5Uk]Trayvon Martin 911 Call - YouTube[/ame]
Trayvon phoned his girlfriend and informed her that he was being pursued by a "Cracker" aka Whitie. By then, the youth was in a fight or flight situation. He was running, trying to get away, with Zimmerman in hot pursuit.
QUESTION to Katzndogz, freedombecki, and Oldstyle: What would you have done if you were Trayvon and you found yourself being pursued by a complete stranger for reasons unknown?
The forum would like to know.
Operator describes George Zimmerman's 911 call on Trayvon Martin
Prosecutor Richard Mantei focused on the words used in that call, particularly when Noffke asked Zimmerman if he was following Martin.
Why did you ask 'Are you following him?' the prosecutor asked Noffke.
It sounded like movement and wind coming through the phone, after [Zimmerman] stated the subject was running, Noffke said.
How come you didnt say dont follow'? the prosecutor asked him.
Noffke explained that for legal reasons, 911 operators may not give such orders. Were directly liable if we give a direct order, he said. We always try to give general basic not commands, just suggestions.
Under cross-examination, Noffke told defense attorney Mark OMara, Its best to avoid any kind of confrontation, to just get away from the situation, a comment that might bolster prosecution allegations that the incident could have been avoided if Zimmerman had stayed in his vehicle.
Operator describes George Zimmerman's 911 call on Trayvon Martin - latimes.com
Trayvon Martin was a thug in training. This is not important except in one respect. Was being a young thug, just trying his wings, the kind of person who would have a propensity to attack others? The jury, upon the testimony of Rachel Jeantel that Martin probably threw the first punch, concluded that he was.
ALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:There's very little question that Trayvon Martin gave George Zimmerman a beating before Zimmerman pulled a gun and shot him. It was about as clear cut a case of self defense as I've ever seen yet Martin's actions have been excused because he was "followed". I'm sorry but since when did following someone at a distance after calling the Police to report suspicious activity become an excuse for assault & battery?
The above bigoted comments are from just the first page of this thread. Need I say more? Do you understand now why Zimmerman's racial profiling of an unarmed black youth--leading to him actively pursuing and then executing the unarmed youth, after which Zimmerman got off scott free--is such an outrage to Black people?
Zimmerman's remark to the 911 operator was that an African American kid who appeared about 18 years old was looking like hes up to no good. That's called racial profiling.
Zimmerman then got out of his car and pursued the juvenile. Zimmerman said under his breath: "They always get away." Assigning the word "they" in negative undertones to an entire ethnic group is called racial profiling. Below is a weblink as well as a video of the 911 phone call. Listen for the following statements.
Zimmerman to Operator: "He's running."
911 Operator to Zimmerman: "Are you following him?"
Zimmerman to Operator: "Yeah."
911 Operator to Zimmerman: "Okay, we don't need you to do that. Okay?"
Raw: 911 call Zimmerman made to Sanford police (Explicit) | www.wftv.com
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOpGAOXL5Uk]Trayvon Martin 911 Call - YouTube[/ame]
Trayvon phoned his girlfriend and informed her that he was being pursued by a "Cracker" aka Whitie. By then, the youth was in a fight or flight situation. He was running, trying to get away, with Zimmerman in hot pursuit.
QUESTION to Katzndogz, freedombecki, and Oldstyle: What would you have done if you were Trayvon and you found yourself being pursued by a complete stranger for reasons unknown?
The forum would like to know.
Operator describes George Zimmerman's 911 call on Trayvon Martin
Prosecutor Richard Mantei focused on the words used in that call, particularly when Noffke asked Zimmerman if he was following Martin.
Why did you ask 'Are you following him?' the prosecutor asked Noffke.
It sounded like movement and wind coming through the phone, after [Zimmerman] stated the subject was running, Noffke said.
How come you didnt say dont follow'? the prosecutor asked him.
Noffke explained that for legal reasons, 911 operators may not give such orders. Were directly liable if we give a direct order, he said. We always try to give general basic not commands, just suggestions.
Under cross-examination, Noffke told defense attorney Mark OMara, Its best to avoid any kind of confrontation, to just get away from the situation, a comment that might bolster prosecution allegations that the incident could have been avoided if Zimmerman had stayed in his vehicle.
Operator describes George Zimmerman's 911 call on Trayvon Martin - latimes.com
the jury didnt see it that way
ALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:
The above bigoted comments are from just the first page of this thread. Need I say more? Do you understand now why Zimmerman's racial profiling of an unarmed black youth--leading to him actively pursuing and then executing the unarmed youth, after which Zimmerman got off scott free--is such an outrage to Black people?
Zimmerman's remark to the 911 operator was that an African American kid who appeared about 18 years old was looking like hes up to no good. That's called racial profiling.
Zimmerman then got out of his car and pursued the juvenile. Zimmerman said under his breath: "They always get away." Assigning the word "they" in negative undertones to an entire ethnic group is called racial profiling. Below is a weblink as well as a video of the 911 phone call. Listen for the following statements.
Zimmerman to Operator: "He's running."
911 Operator to Zimmerman: "Are you following him?"
Zimmerman to Operator: "Yeah."
911 Operator to Zimmerman: "Okay, we don't need you to do that. Okay?"
Raw: 911 call Zimmerman made to Sanford police (Explicit) | www.wftv.com
Trayvon Martin 911 Call - YouTube
Trayvon phoned his girlfriend and informed her that he was being pursued by a "Cracker" aka Whitie. By then, the youth was in a fight or flight situation. He was running, trying to get away, with Zimmerman in hot pursuit.
QUESTION to Katzndogz, freedombecki, and Oldstyle: What would you have done if you were Trayvon and you found yourself being pursued by a complete stranger for reasons unknown?
The forum would like to know.
Operator describes George Zimmerman's 911 call on Trayvon Martin
Prosecutor Richard Mantei focused on the words used in that call, particularly when Noffke asked Zimmerman if he was following Martin.
Why did you ask 'Are you following him?' the prosecutor asked Noffke.
It sounded like movement and wind coming through the phone, after [Zimmerman] stated the subject was running, Noffke said.
How come you didnt say dont follow'? the prosecutor asked him.
Noffke explained that for legal reasons, 911 operators may not give such orders. Were directly liable if we give a direct order, he said. We always try to give general basic not commands, just suggestions.
Under cross-examination, Noffke told defense attorney Mark OMara, Its best to avoid any kind of confrontation, to just get away from the situation, a comment that might bolster prosecution allegations that the incident could have been avoided if Zimmerman had stayed in his vehicle.
Operator describes George Zimmerman's 911 call on Trayvon Martin - latimes.com
the jury didnt see it that way
You're right. But many of us do.
Which specific point in that post do you disagree with?
the jury didnt see it that way
You're right. But many of us do.
Which specific point in that post do you disagree with?
the jury did not see it as racial profiling
The crimes that GZ convicted TM of, that led to his execution were summarized by George as ''them'' too often getting away with '' it''. George emphatically ended that reign of terror.
The self defense excuse that he offered was not supported by any real injuries.
At worst, apparently, it was TM holding him down to avoid getting shot.
But in FL that's called standing your ground.
The crimes that GZ convicted TM of, that led to his execution were summarized by George as ''them'' too often getting away with '' it''. George emphatically ended that reign of terror.
The self defense excuse that he offered was not supported by any real injuries.
At worst, apparently, it was TM holding him down to avoid getting shot.
But in FL that's called standing your ground.
'Them' is gang members and 'it' is stealing. And it turns out that GZ was right on the money. But, you keep crying for the shameless hood rats who attack innocent men.
You're right. But many of us do.
Which specific point in that post do you disagree with?
the jury did not see it as racial profiling
the jury found him not guilty.
the FBI didn't see it as racial profiling either
The crimes that GZ convicted TM of, that led to his execution were summarized by George as ''them'' too often getting away with '' it''. George emphatically ended that reign of terror.
The self defense excuse that he offered was not supported by any real injuries.
At worst, apparently, it was TM holding him down to avoid getting shot.
But in FL that's called standing your ground.
'Them' is gang members and 'it' is stealing. And it turns out that GZ was right on the money. But, you keep crying for the shameless hood rats who attack innocent men.
What gang was TM a member of and what did he steal that night?
'Them' is gang members and 'it' is stealing. And it turns out that GZ was right on the money. But, you keep crying for the shameless hood rats who attack innocent men.
What gang was TM a member of and what did he steal that night?
His father is/was a Crip. Trayvon may or may not have been in part of gang. He certainly lived the thug life though. And he certainly stole plenty of shit. That has all been documented. We don't need to make this a matter of semantics.
What gang was TM a member of and what did he steal that night?
His father is/was a Crip. Trayvon may or may not have been in part of gang. He certainly lived the thug life though. And he certainly stole plenty of shit. That has all been documented. We don't need to make this a matter of semantics.
Stole.plenty of shit? Thug life? Do you have ANY proof of him stealing 'plenty of shit"? What thug life? I can show you posts.of whites in almost identical pics like Martin's. Do you even know what a 'thug' life is?
You're right. Semantics just deals with the meaning of words. We should be able to use whatever words we want.
An innocent the boy is dead. But only a black boy. . Many of his color are criminal. Many of ''ours'' are not. There you go. Black and white. Carrying a gun to an argument will teach those punks a lesson. Screw with whites and die. The way that God intends.
